2011.08.31 13:00 - We rise and fall like a wave

The Guardian for this meeting was Fefonz Quan. The comments are by Fefonz Quan.

Korel Laloix: Bozho
spiritwarrior Lexenstar: hello Santo
Sfindra Belar: hello :)
Santoshima Resident: hello lex, korel, sfindra, bruce
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Sfindra, Korel, Spiritwarrior, and Santo.
Bruce Mowbray dies from laughing....
Sfindra Belar: lol
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Susan.
Santoshima Resident: call the medics ...\
Santoshima Resident: hi susan
Bruce Mowbray hit the wrong key. . .
Bruce Mowbray: a testimony to his mental state.
Sfindra Belar: that broke the silence lol
Santoshima Resident: np ... it's enlivening
iwandertoo Resident: waves
Santoshima Resident: bye susan
Santoshima Resident: or ...? just waving?
Bruce Mowbray: Did I annoy "Annoying Woman"?
Santoshima Resident: sorry ...
Sfindra Belar: lol
iwandertoo Resident: waving hello
Santoshima Resident: is korel gone?
Sfindra Belar: someone left
Sfindra Belar: yes
Bruce Mowbray: She just left, yes.
Santoshima Resident: so long korel, gtsy
Santoshima Resident: hello stevenaia
stevenaia Michinaga: hello
Sfindra Belar: hello :)
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, steve!
iwandertoo Resident: waves
stevenaia Michinaga: I will be here interemittantly as I'm kind of in a meeting but she is on the phne
stevenaia Michinaga: phone :)
Bruce Mowbray: ok.
stevenaia Michinaga: waves to susan on her phone
--BELL--
iwandertoo Resident: :)
spiritwarrior Lexenstar: she sells sea shells on the sea shore
Sfindra Belar: how much for
Bruce Mowbray: Picture what that would look like from the viewpoint of the shells, or the shore. . .
spiritwarrior Lexenstar: for four lemons
Bruce Mowbray: or the lemons.
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, mila!
milakel Resident: hi folks :)
Sfindra Belar: hi :)
Santoshima Resident: Mila :)
milakel Resident: *floats in*
spiritwarrior Lexenstar: hello
Santoshima Resident: how do you suspend like that, Mila? any tips?
milakel Resident: isn't it obvious? balloon :)
Bruce Mowbray: ha ha!
Santoshima Resident: and from your human end of the controls?
milakel Resident: human end?
Santoshima Resident: or... perhaps that's a presumption
milakel Resident: sorry, not sure what you asked :)
Santoshima Resident: ty kindly bruce
Santoshima Resident: how are you staying in one place?
Santoshima Resident: technique, mila
Santoshima Resident: it's likley so basic as to not need an answer?
Santoshima Resident: then just ignore the question
Santoshima Resident: ty kindly again, bruce
milakel Resident: um... sorry, sam. i just don't move :)
Santoshima Resident: right ...
milakel Resident: gah! san rather :)
Santoshima Resident: the best way to fly
milakel Resident: bruce :)
milakel Resident: see? it works, san :)
milakel Resident: bubbles attack!
Bruce Mowbray: omg!
Santoshima Resident: nice, you floated in those i seem to recall
Santoshima Resident: ok, on to the next technical question.
iwandertoo Resident: poppins style...must have a brolly flight animation in sl
Santoshima Resident: susan: what do you see of this meeting on your phone?
Santoshima Resident: is there a visual?
iwandertoo Resident: the txt
Santoshima Resident: hm
milakel Resident: oh, susan is on the phone?
iwandertoo Resident: and u r 7m away from me
Bruce Mowbray thinks: we should probably be talking more in order to make this less boring for Susan.
milakel Resident: iphone or android?
Santoshima Resident: or describing more
iwandertoo Resident: no worries...pls carry on
iwandertoo Resident: android
Santoshima Resident: are there phone apps that allow visuals for SL?
milakel Resident: ah, you're using that commerical app? forgot the name
iwandertoo Resident: I think so
iwandertoo Resident: I can see the pavillion from above on the map
spiritwarrior Lexenstar eats a banana
iwandertoo Resident: but not ppl
Santoshima Resident: an aerial view?
--BELL--
iwandertoo Resident: yes
milakel Resident: like on sl maps, san
Santoshima Resident: yes, got that image in mind ... susan ur 7m away from?
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Fef.
Sfindra Belar: hi :)
milakel Resident: fef! you made it! :)
iwandertoo Resident: away from you
Fefonz Quan: Hi all,
Santoshima Resident: me?
iwandertoo Resident: yes...this is what it says
Santoshima Resident: oh
Santoshima Resident: hi fefonz
Fefonz Quan: hello Santoshima
Fefonz Quan: few things are more frustrating than slow comuters and internet connections...
Wol Euler: hello everyone
Fefonz Quan: Heya Wik!
Santoshima Resident: hey Wol
Fefonz Quan: Wol!
Sfindra Belar: hello
Santoshima Resident: hello bruce
Sfindra Belar: even relationships with computers can be frustrating
Bruce Mowbray: Try to see it from the viewpoint of the computer.
Sfindra Belar: computer says...
Bruce Mowbray: Computer says: "Typist, may I?"
Fefonz Quan: bi-di-bi-di-bip?
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Sfindra Belar: 0101010010101110 lol
Bruce Mowbray: ;_0
Santoshima Resident: so polite!
Sfindra Belar: lol
Sfindra Belar: your read binary ?
Bruce Mowbray: not I, nor Blub.
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Wol.
Sfindra Belar: or sometimes it just crashes
Wol Euler waves
Bruce Mowbray: if I could read binary, I wonldn't need a computer.
Bruce Mowbray: wouldn't*
Sfindra Belar: perhaps
Fefonz Quan: brb
iwandertoo Resident: (waves...best to everyone)
Santoshima Resident: best to you, susan ~ bye
Wol Euler: bye susan
Sfindra Belar: bye susan
Santoshima Resident: brb
Fefonz Quan: back
Wol Euler: hello zen
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Zen.
Fefonz Quan: Hi Zen
Sfindra Belar: hi zen
Santoshima Resident: *
Santoshima Resident: hi Zen
Zen Arado: Hi all
Fefonz Quan: (which remind me - I bumped to day into "Zen and the art of motorcycle...)
Fefonz Quan: s*
Wol Euler smiles.
Fefonz Quan: have any of you read it?
Sfindra Belar: yes
Sfindra Belar: i really liked that book
Wol Euler: many years ago
Zen Arado: yes
--BELL--
Bruce Mowbray: Robert Persig. . . Yes, I've read it a couple of time.
Bruce Mowbray: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_and...le_Maintenance
Santoshima Resident: quite awhile ago, when I still rode motorcycles
Fefonz Quan: that's impressing Bruce, most ofthe people I know never make it to the end the first time...
milakel Resident: woly! :)
Wol Euler: ah, mila is awake
milakel Resident: yep
milakel Resident: *looks around*
milakel Resident: new peeps
Bruce Mowbray: I recall feeling sorry for the son -- but can't remember why, at the moment.
Fefonz Quan: I have read it a long time ago as well, and the funny thing is, that when I recalled it today, my memories of it say thtt it is quite far from Zen as I see it today.
Zen Arado: I recall it being more about philosophy than Zen
Fefonz Quan: exactly!
Zen Arado: some theory of 'Quality' or something
Santoshima Resident: .... all that sitting, though ...
Sfindra Belar: i remember he had a relationship with his bike
Sfindra Belar: and a nervous break down
Santoshima Resident: bye stevie ~
Bruce Mowbray: bye steve.
Zen Arado: bye Steve
Zen Arado: yeh had mental health problems
Zen Arado: interesting prog about waves on atm
Zen Arado: 'The Secret Life of Waves'
Bruce Mowbray waves at the waves and wonders about their secrets.
Sfindra Belar: revealing the secrets of waves
Bruce Mowbray: But can the waves keep a secret?
Zen Arado: dynamic processes
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Zon.
Sfindra Belar: waves come and go
Zen Arado: Hi Zon
Zon Kwan: hello hello
Sfindra Belar: hello
Zen Arado: life is a wave
Sfindra Belar: lots of waving
Santoshima Resident: hello zon kwan
Zon Kwan: zen..you have a new cool look
Zen Arado: started scientifically and now is talking about death :)
Zen Arado: thans Zon
Sfindra Belar: oh the death wave ?
Zen Arado: we rise and fal like a wave
Zen Arado: waves are energy
Zon Kwan: or risnign takes place
Zen Arado: worth watching if you can get iPlayer
Santoshima Resident: send a link?
Zen Arado: don't thnk you can watch outside UK
Zen Arado: ?
Zen Arado: haven't got link yet
Santoshima Resident: ah, too bad
Sfindra Belar: ill have a look, sounds interesting
Zen Arado: it is on live atm
Zon Kwan: a movie ?
Zen Arado: it is a TV program on BBC 4
Sfindra Belar: ill wait and see if they put it on to view after
Bruce Mowbray: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00y5jhx
Zen Arado: sometimes they appear on Youtube
Sfindra Belar: a surprising connection between the life cycle of waves and the life of human beings. interesting
Zen Arado: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00y5jhx
Zen Arado: ah same link Bruce
Zon Kwan: wow..sounds cool
Zon Kwan: bubbles like us
--BELL--
Sfindra Belar: bubble bubble
Zen Arado: toil and trouble
Zon Kwan: perhaps atoms are empty bubbles and the space full of fullness
Sfindra Belar: but what is this fullness they are full of
Zen Arado: and what is 'empty' ?
Zon Kwan: words
Sfindra Belar ponders emptiness
Zen Arado: yes
Bruce Mowbray: Blub is exploring the fullness of his bubble - - or perhaps his bubble is exploring him.
Bruce Mowbray: bubblefish.
Zen Arado: ah he has a bubble now
Zen Arado: how nice
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Zon Kwan: if all is made of primarily one stuff that fills all there is...
Bruce Mowbray: or does the bubble have him (and me too.)
Zen Arado: he has a boundary now
Zon Kwan: only way to create..
Zon Kwan: is to make empty bubbles in that stuff
Fefonz Quan bubbles out quitely, good night everybody
Bruce Mowbray tries to see from bubble perspective.. . . Zen and the art of bubble maintenance.
Santoshima Resident: g'night fefonz
Zen Arado: bye Fef
Bruce Mowbray must also be gone.
Bruce Mowbray: Thanks everyone.
Fefonz Quan: _/!\_
Santoshima Resident: so long bruce
Zen Arado: bye Bruce
Wol Euler: bye bruce
Sfindra Belar: :-)
Wol Euler: bye fef
Wol Euler: I shuld go too, tired and sore
Wol Euler: goodnight, take care
Zen Arado: nite Wol
Sfindra Belar: nite
Santoshima Resident: bye Wol, take care
milakel Resident: woly left
milakel Resident: and fefy
Santoshima Resident: yup
Santoshima Resident: and bruce
Zon Kwan: how did you do that milakel
Zen Arado: everyone leaves eventually
Zen Arado: we come and go like waves
Zon Kwan: where do we go
Zon Kwan: where do we coem from
Sfindra Belar: do waves come and go, or merely move between ?
Zen Arado: somewhere else
Zen Arado: waves don't go anywahere
Zon Kwan: where is it
Zen Arado: up and down
Zon Kwan: where is it
Zen Arado: and round and round
Zen Arado: the energy moves
Zon Kwan: water in waves does not move
Sfindra Belar: or is it our perception that moves
Zon Kwan: only waves
Zen Arado: well it moves in circles
Zon Kwan: form
Zen Arado: when it hits a beach that is why it turns over
Zon Kwan: wave form moves
Zon Kwan: not the substance wth it
Zen Arado: they showed little plastic dicks just bobbing up and down in waves in prog
Zen Arado: (ducks)
Sfindra Belar: lol
Zon Kwan: lol
Zen Arado: drat
Santoshima Resident: good one
Zen Arado: (blushes)
Sfindra Belar: bobbing up and down ?
Zen Arado: when the waves started to break they carried the ducks along though
Sfindra Belar: brb making tea
Zen Arado: yes ..staying the same place as the waves passed
Zen Arado: in a wave tank
Santoshima Resident: mila, your balloon makes me think of flying suits ...
Zon Kwan: wave is like a thought..sea like consciousness
spiritwarrior Lexenstar ponders what waves themselves are made of
Zen Arado: yeh
Santoshima Resident: waves in the air
--BELL--
Zon Kwan: waves are forms
Zon Kwan: of dense cosnciusness
Zon Kwan: waves...
Zen Arado: waves at Zon
Santoshima Resident: cheers, zon kwon, bye
Santoshima Resident: kwan
spiritwarrior Lexenstar: waves can happen of any material
Zen Arado: yes
spiritwarrior Lexenstar: or non material
Zen Arado: they showed how a city population moves outwards in waves
Zen Arado: but the timescale is longer
Santoshima Resident: are you watching now, zen?
Zen Arado: mountains act like waves in a long timescale
Zen Arado: no it is over
Sfindra Belar: the universe waves with us
Zen Arado: whether we see things as objects depends much on the timescale
Zen Arado: or see them as processes
Zen Arado: sound is waves
Santoshima Resident: seeing ourselves and eveything as process depends on mindset, and openness
Zen Arado: vision
Zen Arado: yes
Santoshima Resident: want to see a wingsuit?
Santoshima Resident: ust to change the topic ever so slightly?
Sfindra Belar: yes please
Zen Arado: :)
Santoshima Resident: waves are involved ..
Zen Arado: sure
Santoshima Resident: ok
Santoshima Resident: steph davis / wingsuit flying in switzerland see video a little down ... http://www.highinfatuation.com/blog/switzerland/
Santoshima Resident: there's a loudish soundtrack ...
Sfindra Belar: video
Sfindra Belar: flying
Sfindra Belar: cool
Zen Arado: yeh
Zen Arado: do they use a parachute too?
Sfindra Belar: awesome, what a rush
Santoshima Resident: steph davis, http://www.highinfatuation.com/about-me/
Santoshima Resident: parachute to end the flight
Zen Arado: yeh ...how do you know about her Santo?
Santoshima Resident: he has a great book (I love books!) called High Infatuation
Santoshima Resident: memoir about her life as a rock climber
Santoshima Resident: she's american, and a remarkable athlete
Zen Arado: amazing woman
Santoshima Resident: yes!
Zen Arado: wonder if she comes into SL
Zen Arado: don't think so somehow
Santoshima Resident: here's another, that you can see later: for the final few seconds ... passing the torch to a youngster
Santoshima Resident: http://www.highinfatuation.com/blog/...rl-activities/
--BELL--
Zen Arado: yeh you see the parachute in that one
Zen Arado: a video is so inadequate to reproduce the actual experience though
Zen Arado: just imagine jumping off that cliff
Zen Arado: feeling the wind and being in freefall
Zen Arado: better go
Zen Arado: byee
Santoshima Resident: bye zen
Sfindra Belar: bye zen
Santoshima Resident: good to see you
Santoshima Resident: me too, so long, thanks for the conversation ~
Sfindra Belar: byebye
Sfindra Belar: ill show you the balloon to the theatre lex ?
spiritwarrior Lexenstar: if you like
Sfindra Belar: yeah
Sfindra Belar: bye mila