The Guardian for this meeting was Lucinda Lavender. The comments are by Lucinda Lavender.
Lucinda arrives late and chats with Alfred...
Alfred Kelberry: hi :)
Lucinda Lavender: Hi Boxy!
Alfred Kelberry: lonely luci?
Lucinda Lavender: ah...just woke up!
Alfred Kelberry: where is everyone?
Lucinda Lavender: I am just claiming it now
Alfred Kelberry: i expected more people on friday morning
Lucinda Lavender: just claiming it now
Alfred Kelberry: git - you just sounded like a geek :)
Lucinda Lavender: well we are all a little off with a mid week holiday
Alfred Kelberry: there are a bunch of canadians who did not celebrate :)
Lucinda Lavender: right...the 4th you mean?
Alfred Kelberry: i assume
Lucinda Lavender: right:)
Lucinda Lavender: how is the life as a lab theme going:)?
Alfred Kelberry: that's not the theme :)
Lucinda Lavender: ok...I just woke up sorry...
Lucinda Lavender: I am only partly functional:)
Alfred Kelberry: also, i do not see how lab is relevant in the scope of pab
--BELL--
Alfred Kelberry: i think pema used terms like laboratory, experiment, etc in order to give a scientific legitimacy to pab's activity
Alfred Kelberry: how are your chickens doing? :)
Lucinda Lavender: they are well...the 4 of them.
Lucinda Lavender: on got sick and is no more.
Lucinda Lavender: one
Alfred Kelberry: eh, poor things
Lucinda Lavender: it was 4 years old so it lived a pretty full life
Alfred Kelberry: are there new chicks coming?
Lucinda Lavender: we are thinking about getting a few...!
Alfred Kelberry: good :)
Lucinda Lavender: they are available nearby
Alfred Kelberry: i thought you had some hatched not long ago
Lucinda Lavender: while the weather is warm introduce them...no have not hatched any in our home...always have bought them.
Lucinda Lavender: We finally have sun here...it has taken it's time
Alfred Kelberry: not a very sunny state :)
Lucinda Lavender: no:)
Lucinda Lavender: sunny where you are?
Alfred Kelberry: too sunny :)
Lucinda Lavender: ah
Alfred Kelberry: i prefer a mild weather
Alfred Kelberry: some rain is fine too
Lucinda Lavender: we have mild here...with alot of cloudy misty days
Lucinda Lavender: but for the monthes of july august september it can be beautiful
Alfred Kelberry: yes, i think of seattle as bergen. think they're pretty similar.
Lucinda Lavender: It is rare for me to be frustrated with the weather tho.
Alfred Kelberry: i try never be :)
Lucinda Lavender: for some people it is all they can talk about
Alfred Kelberry: recalling how astronauts say they never complain about weather - it's all beautiful here on earth :)
Lucinda Lavender: recalling thinking that farmers have reason to think about weather...
Alfred Kelberry: i hope woly is coming back soon
Lucinda Lavender: a long trip for her
Alfred Kelberry: she'd be here, i think, for this meeting
Lucinda Lavender: ah:)
Alfred Kelberry: oh, have you read this book: stuff white people like?
Lucinda Lavender: what would you like to talk about?
Lucinda Lavender: ah...no...
Alfred Kelberry: quite funny :)
Lucinda Lavender: what does it seem to be about?
Lucinda Lavender: humorus...thought so
Alfred Kelberry: the author lists 150 things
Lucinda Lavender: did it make you laugh?
Alfred Kelberry: e.g. coffee, farmer's markets, etc :)
Alfred Kelberry: yea!
Lucinda Lavender: I am white ...
Alfred Kelberry: it is north american centric, but a lot of it is so true :)
Lucinda Lavender: for me tho farmer's markets are mainly nice because of the colors and smells and that the sellers have their own businesses
Alfred Kelberry: some folks even get into competition on who is whiter by this book :)
--BELL--
Lucinda Lavender: and...coffee is important to me because...
Lucinda Lavender: it helps me think...
Lucinda Lavender: and enjoy life
Alfred Kelberry: "White people believe that organic food is grown by farmers who wear overalls, drive tractors, and don’t use pesticides." :)
Lucinda Lavender: ha...
Lucinda Lavender: I suppose some do
Alfred Kelberry: this book could probably be written only in the u.s. given its racial issues
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Alfred Kelberry: doesn't make much sense in europe or even canada, i think
Lucinda Lavender: probably not...
Lucinda Lavender: I think it is good and sometimes hard to see oneself as others see us.
Alfred Kelberry: do you have black friends?
Lucinda Lavender: yes
Lucinda Lavender: I worked with one woman as co teacher with her for 10 years
Lucinda Lavender: we were a great team
Alfred Kelberry: nice
Lucinda Lavender: we had the best music time
Lucinda Lavender: she played tamborine and I guitar
Lucinda Lavender: played
Lucinda Lavender: and we have great respect for each other
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Alfred Kelberry: i wonder how much this is true: "White people like Barack Obama because they are afraid that if they don’t they will be considered racist." :)
Lucinda Lavender: I mainly have gotten to know people from different countries because childcare is something a person can do
Lucinda Lavender: coming here with less english
Lucinda Lavender: I don't know...about your question there
Lucinda Lavender: I had a dream about Obama
Alfred Kelberry: ha :)
Lucinda Lavender: back a few months before he was elected
Alfred Kelberry: what did he do?
Lucinda Lavender: he spoke with me ...for a long time...and I was overcome by the feeling that it was like talking to my dad
Alfred Kelberry: wow
Alfred Kelberry: what did you talk about?
Lucinda Lavender: I do not know
Alfred Kelberry: did not pay attention?! :)
Alfred Kelberry: you probably played with chickens while he was giving the speech :)
Lucinda Lavender: but as I left there and was travelling home I realized that I saw a church from a distance and it was brick...and I had this dream statement that came through that was...you will have to learn about the Bible
Alfred Kelberry: hmm
Lucinda Lavender: not something I study..
Alfred Kelberry: did it happen?
--BELL--
Lucinda Lavender: not really but...division in our country seems to come around certain topics that the bible addresses
Alfred Kelberry: ah, yes. in god you trust says the bill :)
Lucinda Lavender: hmmm
Alfred Kelberry: i think it's nasty the kind of power church has over the rural folks
Lucinda Lavender: well funny thing...that day that I woke from the dream...I spoke with a cousin from chicago....and I learned that his company had worked for the obama campaign....and he knew him and was sending me a photo of his kids on the back step with obama..chatting
Alfred Kelberry: neat :)
Lucinda Lavender: it was interesting...
Alfred Kelberry: did you see any other famous people in dreams?
Lucinda Lavender: I have seen Eddy Murphy....
Lucinda Lavender: laughing at me
Alfred Kelberry: hehe
Lucinda Lavender: and Dana Carvey
Alfred Kelberry: don't know her
Lucinda Lavender: people of humour
Lucinda Lavender: guy from SNL
Lucinda Lavender: did you know I have written down dreams since 1987?
Alfred Kelberry: yes, i know you're into dreams :)
Lucinda Lavender: that is a long time
Alfred Kelberry: how many notebooks did you use? :)
Lucinda Lavender: I think I have about 8
Lucinda Lavender: one at a time
Lucinda Lavender: used to record about 7 a month...
Lucinda Lavender: now much less
Alfred Kelberry: oh, i thought you do it like every other day
Lucinda Lavender: no
Alfred Kelberry: much less cause of lack of time or lack of dreams?(I missed this question because I was so busy talking:) but lack of time might figure in...as well as being in a different stage of life)
Lucinda Lavender: and I also record where the planets are when the dream happens
Lucinda Lavender: aging I think
Alfred Kelberry: ah, astrology angle :)
Lucinda Lavender: less energy when working hard too
Lucinda Lavender: on vacation dreams bubble up tho
Lucinda Lavender: and when the moon is where it was when I was born
Alfred Kelberry: you think the planets affect your dreams somehow?
Lucinda Lavender: it was something I have fought with as an Idea...
Alfred Kelberry: skeptic in you :)
Lucinda Lavender: I think that it gives a way of looking at a dream that takes it out of personal interpretation...and more into a universal view tho...it helps with that
Lucinda Lavender: yes there is a skeptic
Lucinda Lavender: does not read the bible either
Lucinda Lavender: I guess a dream can tell me what I love, am worried about...might be encountering the next day...
Lucinda Lavender: but it seems to have in it things that we already know....( well I pay attention because sometimes it seems the dream reveals things I did not consciously know or at least know that I know).
Alfred Kelberry: i think the bible is like dreams in many ways. people read it and try to impose various meanings.
--BELL--
Alfred Kelberry: same passage can be interpreted in different ways
Lucinda Lavender: many dreams in the bible...yes
Alfred Kelberry: well, it seems it's been just you and me this meeting
Lucinda Lavender: yes...
Lucinda Lavender: time to go
Alfred Kelberry: yep
Alfred Kelberry: thank you for the company
Lucinda Lavender: I hope you have a good day
Alfred Kelberry: keep your chickens safe :)
Lucinda Lavender: I will ...go check them soon
Lucinda Lavender: bye for now
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