2012.07.25 13:00 - Do i laugh now?

The Guardian for this meeting was Fefonz Quan. The comments are by Fefonz Quan.

Alfred Kelberry: you!
Alfred Kelberry: why alone?
Alfred Kelberry: such a pretty sexy girl
Korel Laloix: My awsomeness has scared them off.
Alfred Kelberry: oh
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Korel Laloix: Very tru.
Korel Laloix: true
Korel Laloix: I just can't help it though.
Alfred Kelberry: oh, i've seen a course from harvard for you
Alfred Kelberry: online, fall 2012
Alfred Kelberry: stats, epidemiology
Alfred Kelberry: interested?
Korel Laloix: NO, I want a real university, not an indoctrination.
Korel Laloix: But thanks though.
Alfred Kelberry: good choice :)
Darren Islar: hi there
Alfred Kelberry: sorry, no epidemiology in berkeley :)
Korel Laloix: Most of the US supream court went to Harvard.. wich is a great indication that it just breads brain dead, narrow minded clones.
Alfred Kelberry: mr mick!
Korel Laloix: Bozho
Alfred Kelberry: hi, darren
Mickorod Renard: Hi Alf Korel,Daren
Darren Islar: mighty pirate?
Korel Laloix: Heay
Fefonz Quan: Hello all :)
Alfred Kelberry: kori, oh yes. they protect their culture very well :)
Darren Islar: hi fonz
Mickorod Renard: Hi Fef
Alfred Kelberry: kori, harvard's president vetoed berkeley's professor appointment a couple of years ago on the account of her economic preferences
Alfred Kelberry: fef :)
Alfred Kelberry: darren, aye! :)
Darren Islar: I see a boxed dog, but maybe it;s me :)
--BELL--
Alfred Kelberry: looks can be deceiving :)
Korel Laloix: Both of the coasts are without thought these days it seems.
Alfred Kelberry: arrr!
Alfred Kelberry: how's life, fef?
Alfred Kelberry: no time for sl?
Fefonz Quan: Yep, life is very busy.
Alfred Kelberry: glad you can carve up an hour a week for sl :)
Fefonz Quan: I think I will step down from my host duties
Alfred Kelberry: yes
Alfred Kelberry: makes sense. not much happening anyway.
Fefonz Quan: It seems I cna't stand behind my responsibility for now
Fefonz Quan: what do you mean not much happening?
Fefonz Quan: in fact according to the email discusions it seems lots is happening
Alfred Kelberry: i mean your session :)
Alfred Kelberry: 1 pm not the best timing
Korel Laloix: This is great timming for me.. smiles
Fefonz Quan: well, maybe this is my fault, not having the energy and time to nurture it
Alfred Kelberry: kori :)
Darren Islar: 1 pm can be busy, most Europeans
Alfred Kelberry: obviously only the best of pab are here at 1 pm :)
Fefonz Quan: yes, thisa is the Europe time slot I guess :)
Alfred Kelberry: how's israeli-palestinian relationship going? :)
Fefonz Quan: not much happening neither :)
Alfred Kelberry: i suppose it's a good thing
Fefonz Quan: the neighbourhood is steaming with other issues though
Darren Islar: er.....?
Alfred Kelberry: what issues?
Alfred Kelberry: hot weather? :)
Fefonz Quan: Egypt, Syria, etc...
Alfred Kelberry: ah
Alfred Kelberry: i've no idea what's going on there
Alfred Kelberry: what do you think, fef?
Fefonz Quan: So I guess the nearest news web site can fill you up :)
Darren Islar: Syria is still a blood bath
Alfred Kelberry: no, i'm content with my geek news :)
Fefonz Quan: in fact I don't have the energy to bring it up here.
Darren Islar: but you still wanna know :)
Fefonz Quan: Yes, it shouold be better this way Alf :)
Alfred Kelberry: last i heard they tried a revolution in syria, but it failed
Darren Islar: fight are still going on
Darren Islar: *fights
Alfred Kelberry: darren, i'd rather here from actual people than a news anchor
Alfred Kelberry: *hear :)
Fefonz Quan: It is getting more terrible every day, and here we hust hope not to get hit by the rikoshettes
Fefonz Quan: just*
Darren Islar: you're living in Israel Fn
Darren Islar: onz?
Fefonz Quan: (I guess this was very wrong spelleed)
Fefonz Quan: yep
Darren Islar: Fonz ... I see
Alfred Kelberry: hmm, i should grab a map. can never remember how this region is carved up :)
Fefonz Quan: You are from Franch if I recall?
Fefonz Quan: (Alf)
Darren Islar: is it more dangerous or less now Syria is calling his troops back from the Golan?
Alfred Kelberry: oh, syria is bordered with israel
Darren Islar: Holland
Fefonz Quan: hmm, I was almost sure about it...
Darren Islar: sorry :)
--BELL--
Fefonz Quan: no, I was talking about boxy :)
Alfred Kelberry: ashdod - i have a standing invitation there :)
Alfred Kelberry: er... no, franch is... not me :)
Darren Islar: ah sorry
Korel Laloix: Woudl love to go to Isreal.
Darren Islar: (not really sorry though :) )
Korel Laloix: I have an ivite there... but don't have the money or time.
Fefonz Quan: maybe some day Korel
Alfred Kelberry: i'm pondering if i want to go :)
Alfred Kelberry: pretty hot for me
Fefonz Quan: what are you pondinrg on?
Korel Laloix: I love the hteat.
Alfred Kelberry: fef, a visit
Korel Laloix: And would love to feel the tention.
Fefonz Quan: ah, yes, it is very hot this time of the year, but from october to May the weahter is great
Alfred Kelberry: kori, tension? try somali :)
Korel Laloix: But also curious at why so many people here are so hostile to ISreal.
Korel Laloix: WOudl love to go there as well.
Fefonz Quan: I think you'll be surprised how little tensin you'll feel in the major cities though
Alfred Kelberry: kori, did you ask them? :)
Korel Laloix: Ther eis just such a hostility toward Jews in general in the more liberal parts of the US.
Fefonz Quan: I thought Jews were among the liberal parts of teh US :)
Korel Laloix: They are.. and that is the thing I can't figure out.
Fefonz Quan: (though putting yourself down might be considered a favorite hobby )
Alfred Kelberry: kori, what do they say? what's the hostility about?
Korel Laloix: Not sure the position of Jews int he US.. seem to be a balancing act.
Korel Laloix: There is this big thought that Jews are genociding the palistinians.. I guess I have a larger perspective.
Korel Laloix: I mean.. show me a Synagog in Saudi Arabia.
Korel Laloix: But I am not an expert on the region at all.
Alfred Kelberry: ah, that. yes, seen how israelis were bulldozing palestinian homes
Fefonz Quan: If they Do, they are doing a real lousy job, considering more palestinians were killed by muslims than by Israelis
Korel Laloix: I tend to look at history in like 500 year blocks I think.. and mainly in the Americas.
Darren Islar: the larger perspective here is that Palestinians are getting surpressed, the general feeling is that Jews are constantly in danger .. I think bothare true
Korel Laloix: So looking at what someone is doing to who in just the last 60 years is not goo context.
Fefonz Quan: even in this context, you'll fid the Israeli-Palestinian conflict over those years have caused surprisingly low figures of casulties compared to any similar conflict in the area
Alfred Kelberry: kori, yes. i've read gerbert wells book on history of the world. most big conflicts that are happening now are so clearly depicted there. their origins.
Fefonz Quan: only in Syria in the last year more people were killed than in 50 years of Israels history
Alfred Kelberry: wow
Darren Islar: I think human suffering makes a good context, whatever caused it
Darren Islar: yeah ... and more will die
--BELL--
Alfred Kelberry: i don't think israeli-palestinian conflict is solvable
Alfred Kelberry: it's going to blow up one day
Alfred Kelberry: a matter of time
Alfred Kelberry: where religion is involved death count does not matter
Darren Islar: hmmm ... I never thought the Iron curtain would disappear ... I still remember how stunned I was
Fefonz Quan: I am not trying to cover the human suffering with numbers Darren, but when someone cries "Genocide" so easily, it may help to remind of the facts. the US troops have cause more civilian casulties both in afganistan and in Iraq (by oredrs of magnitude) and noone called it genocide
Darren Islar: All I said was that I see both stories
Fefonz Quan: I see tem too, and I know that both sides are suffering heavily.
Darren Islar [Darius] nods
Fefonz Quan: due to both sides mistakes
Alfred Kelberry: fef, but... but... but the u.s. is saving the world! :)
Darren Islar: I agree Fonz
Alfred Kelberry: delivers freedom to your doorstep
Alfred Kelberry: on this note, i don't think syrian conflict went without the u.s. involvement :)
Darren Islar: I just think that for a long time we only saw one side of the story, but globalisation also showed us the others, so it might look it's all one sided ... adn if it comes to irak,Guatanamo bay, Abu Graib and Afghanistan ... a lotof sidagreement is there .... the difference ism we are looking to it from the outside, you are living it, that's a big difference
Darren Islar: darn what a typos's !!
Alfred Kelberry: yes, darren. also, one fef's testimony can not be generalized to the whole country :)
Alfred Kelberry: people often do it. after talking to one norwegian, they think of themselves as experts on norway :)
Fefonz Quan: of course, I am not caliming to represent the only truth, or even the only truth of one side.
Darren Islar: well, I know that i don't wanna live on the Palestinian side either :)
Alfred Kelberry: fef, it was not my point, but ok :)
Fefonz Quan: neither do I. Though there are many other sides in this neighbourhood you wouldnn't want to live in, maybe even more so...
Darren Islar [Darius] nods .... agreed
Alfred Kelberry: bad neighborhoods are everywhere
Alfred Kelberry: i thought of geneva as this clean, glamorous city, until i got there... :)
Fefonz Quan: (what does it mean when you type [Darius] on your comment? should I edit it in the log?
Fefonz Quan: }
Darren Islar: you can take it away ... it's a name I use for my roleplay ... you can leave it as well, no meaning for this group :)
--BELL--
Alfred Kelberry: fef, what do you think of russian expats in israel? they make up almost half of the country, no?
Darren Islar: heh
Fefonz Quan: well, 15-20% is more,likely
Fefonz Quan: and integral part of society, academics, industry, high-tech companies etc, so not sure what do I "think",
Darren Islar: as there are also Arabic people living there
Fefonz Quan: I guess if you'd ask an american similar question he would consider it as quite impolite :)
Fefonz Quan: of course Darren.
Darren Islar: was trying to 'educate' Alf :)
Alfred Kelberry: i think it's a fine question
Alfred Kelberry: american political correctness is notorious. you should be cautious to ask anything :)
Korel Laloix: You can ask me anything.
Korel Laloix: I dated a Russsian for a while
Alfred Kelberry: kori :)
Korel Laloix: Very nationalistic.
Alfred Kelberry: kori, very? how so?
Korel Laloix: Sama was very prowd to be Russian.
Korel Laloix: And very in tune with being Russian Orthodox.
Alfred Kelberry: good girl
Korel Laloix: But hated the USSR and Russian Federation Gov.
Fefonz Quan: Alf, ever since the 5th grde (age 10) there were several russian immigrants in my classes, in my university departments and in the companies I worked with, some of them were the nicest, some of them not
Alfred Kelberry: she's not alone on this :)
Alfred Kelberry: fef, yes, well integrated
Korel Laloix: But Sama is one fo the most beutiful women I have ever met.. maybe even the most beutiful.
Alfred Kelberry: wow
Alfred Kelberry: kori, how many women have you met in your life? :)
Darren Islar: I see we are sliding to another subject :)
Korel Laloix: Met or dated?
Alfred Kelberry: welcome, mr wolf
Fefonz Quan: I met hundreds - my teacher, the clerk at the bank, the doctor, and many many others :)
Darren Islar: I hope a lot mighty, a lot of female around on this planet :)
Alfred Kelberry: kori, it was attempt of a joke :)
--BELL--
Darren Islar: hi Gilles
Alfred Kelberry: i'd totally date kori
Darren Islar: of course :)
Gilles Kuhn: Hoooooowls!!
Alfred Kelberry: i'm not quite a russian blond with long legs, but... we can think something up :)
Korel Laloix: lol.. sorry..
Korel Laloix: Not unless you had an operation.
Darren Islar: I think I make more chance .. winks
Alfred Kelberry: eh... these fundamental feminists :)
Gilles Kuhn: as ilearned you spoke about syria then now you are on women i just read a joke from bashar himself
Alfred Kelberry: we can combine the two - syrian women :)
Gilles Kuhn: an american journalist ask an afghan women why as they evicted the talibans they walk still several pace behind their husband.......
Gilles Kuhn: response so they got it by the anti personnal mines not us.....
Gilles Kuhn: hit*
Korel Laloix: ?
Alfred Kelberry: ok, so... do i laugh now? :)
Gilles Kuhn: i found it funny actually it made me laugh a lot when i read it
Alfred Kelberry: maybe it was a funny paper you read it in :)
Korel Laloix: I am soo not getting the joke.. did I miss something?
Darren Islar: the man gets blown up
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Fefonz Quan: :-)
Alfred Kelberry: i have a cute picture of a penguin, which is funny...
Korel Laloix: Oh.. so the guy goes first and find the mines...
Alfred Kelberry: http://i.imgur.com/zQz9y.jpg
Korel Laloix: Go girl... sounds smart.
Gilles Kuhn: no korel the guy go first and explode with the mine....
Korel Laloix: I get it now.
Korel Laloix: Good thinking.
Darren Islar: yes, in a .... non-convencial way a in getting blown up
Gilles Kuhn: lol boxy is that what you call zakousky?
Alfred Kelberry: i like 2 kind of anecdotes: funny and not funny - they both have a humorous content :)
Alfred Kelberry: gilles, well... guess you can say that :)
Darren Islar: that's about every anecdote
Alfred Kelberry: darren, actually, less than 1%
Alfred Kelberry: the rest are simply dull prose
Darren Islar: ah ... I see
Alfred Kelberry: that mine anecdote was not funny :)
Alfred Kelberry: fef, do you know any israeli-palestinian jokes? :)
Darren Islar: well, guys and girl, I'm going
Alfred Kelberry: good to see you, darren
Darren Islar: have a good day/night
Darren Islar: same here
Gilles Kuhn: bye darren
Fefonz Quan: Alf, I know holocoust jokes if you want, but not here :)
Gilles Kuhn: alfred i am sure they are
Alfred Kelberry: fef, go! :)
Gilles Kuhn: lol fefonz i know a lot of these why not here?
Alfred Kelberry: fef, it's your session, you can clean it up later :)
Fefonz Quan: Think I'll call it a night, good by all, and it might be my last hosting session for a while, so it was fun, and I'll see you as a visitor next time :)
Gilles Kuhn: speaking of joke i like that one : The most interesting thing about King Charles the first is that he was 5 foot 6 inches tall at the start of his reign, but only 4 foot 8 at the end of it
Alfred Kelberry: bye, fef. hope you will be able to join sl now and then.
Fefonz Quan: _/!\_
Fefonz Quan: hope so too alf
--BELL--
Gilles Kuhn: oh they still have that pavlovian experiment going on i feel discriminated.....
Alfred Kelberry: pavl.. what?
Alfred Kelberry: where?
Gilles Kuhn: you dont feel the urge to salivate alfred?
Alfred Kelberry: not at the moment :)
Alfred Kelberry: kori, do you go to wallmart?
Korel Laloix: Not unless I have to.
Korel Laloix: Why?
Alfred Kelberry: ok, a relevant picture: http://i.imgur.com/8f9xQ.jpg
Korel Laloix: And?
Gilles Kuhn: yes kori do you support the worker and peasant of the glorious chinese communist neo liberal mandarinate?
Alfred Kelberry: hehe
Alfred Kelberry: kori, there's a humorous content
Korel Laloix: No, I don't like Obama... why?
Alfred Kelberry: ...
Alfred Kelberry: kids these days :)
Korel Laloix: I just have issues with mysogniy, racism, eliteism, nepotism, greed, incompitence.... so Obama is not my favorite person.
Alfred Kelberry: a good citizen goes to costco
Gilles Kuhn: you forget to mention colonel custer...
Korel Laloix: Costco is worse.
Gilles Kuhn: a joke of mine since obama was elected : dont say anymore white house : say uncle Tom's hut
Korel Laloix: Sad part... there is more trueth to that than you think.
Alfred Kelberry: oh, gilles. have you read "stuff while people like"?
Korel Laloix: I feel sory for him in some ways.
Gilles Kuhn: i dont think so alfred
Alfred Kelberry: pretty funny
Alfred Kelberry: let me send you the book. we can then make a contest who is the whitest :)
Gilles Kuhn: at this very time you win for sure i have a pool and i am in souther spain....
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Korel Laloix: There are things I just don't get about white people... but strangly I mostly date white girls.. not sure why.
Alfred Kelberry: kori, what things you don't get?
Gilles Kuhn: why we use blanket when dying perhaps?
Korel Laloix: Very short term memory, lack of appreciate for their culture, guilt, complete clueless ness about the realities of racism, obsession with crap art and porn.
Korel Laloix: The list goes on.
Gilles Kuhn: ah you meant north american white mans without the canadian
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Gilles Kuhn: men*
Korel Laloix: I dont know any white Canadians.
Korel Laloix: Outside of SL that is.
Alfred Kelberry: not a single one, eh?
Korel Laloix: I know one Vietnamese Canadian and the rest are First American.
Gilles Kuhn: heaven i know several and i never crossed the great pound
--BELL--
Gilles Kuhn: you mean people of pre colombian origin i presume as it seems there were several immigration groups before europeans not all coming from the berings straight....
Korel Laloix: Associating a time with C Columbus is not necesary and ab it offensive.
Korel Laloix: But that is just me... and my PC... smiels
Korel Laloix: Restart in 5?
Gilles Kuhn: why its offensive its only a manner to pinpoint an historical event which was the beginning of massive europeans immigrations to the america
Alfred Kelberry: oh, restart
Korel Laloix: You could say... pre American Genocide
Alfred Kelberry: this is the sign... time to go
Gilles Kuhn: or should i not honor either amerigo vesspuchi by calling them americas?
Korel Laloix: That is also a good point.
Alfred Kelberry: thank you folks
Korel Laloix: Ciao.
Alfred Kelberry: bon bon