2009.05.24 07:00 - Bubbles and Fountains

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The Guardian for this meeting was Adams Rubble. The comments are by Adams Rubble.

For a number of reasons this was a very light-hearted session for the first half with some very funny moments. If you want to go directly to the the serious part, please scroll down to my fisrt comment.

Wol Euler: hello ymf
Nymf Hathaway: How is your day?
Nymf Hathaway: Hello Adams
Wol Euler: so far very good ;(
Wol Euler: :)
Wol Euler: apart from the typing
Wol Euler: brb
Nymf Hathaway: :))
Adams Rubble: Hello Wol and Nymf :)
Adams Rubble: Hope everyone is well :)
Nymf Hathaway: Nice weather here so doing well :)
Wol Euler: quite well, thanks! and you?
Nymf Hathaway: and you?
Adams Rubble: I am well, thanks...away on vacation for the weekend
Nymf Hathaway: Nice :))
Wol Euler: nice
Adams Rubble: So my mind is a bit empty
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: more empty than usual
Wol Euler: perhaps empty is good?
Nymf Hathaway: Can be a good thing from time to time
Adams Rubble: maybe
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: Does anyone have anything they would like to talk about?
Nymf Hathaway: In for anything but not thinking of something specific
Nymf Hathaway: Hello Eliza :)
Adams Rubble: Good morning Eliza :)
Wol Euler: hello Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Nymf, Wol, Adams :)
Nymf Hathaway: Gymnastics
Nymf Hathaway: :)
Nymf Hathaway: I am sorry my av does things without me wanting too :)
Wol Euler: happens :)
Wol Euler: in RL too
Nymf Hathaway: you said?
Wol Euler: it happens
Nymf Hathaway: I know...but your av and now Adams avi is doing it :)
Adams Rubble wonders what she is doing
Wol Euler looks around. What are we doing?
Eliza Madrigal is clueless
Nymf Hathaway: Maybe its my client
Wol Euler: what do you see?
Adams Rubble is all ears
Nymf Hathaway: I see avi's double foulds
Nymf Hathaway: needed to search the word :)
Adams Rubble: foulds?
Nymf Hathaway: folds, sorry
Eliza Madrigal: When we begin to see differently, what we see behaves differently? heheh
Adams Rubble: this sounds like it could lead us right to the question of what is reality :)
Nymf Hathaway: :)))
Adams Rubble: hehe
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Wol Euler: that would be unusual
Adams Rubble: hehe Wol
Eliza Madrigal: um, Adams....? hehe
Adams Rubble feeling silly
Eliza Madrigal: I guess there are alternate universes within SL and PaB too :)
Wol Euler: :)
Wol Euler: "AO off" perhaps?
Eliza Madrigal: haha Oh My
Nymf Hathaway: Energetic meeting :)
Wol Euler: what on earth are you doing? :)
Wol Euler: crashing
Wol Euler: ah well
Adams Rubble: no crashing (giggles)
Wol Euler: wb adams
Eliza Madrigal feels the need for a strobe light and trance music
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Adams Rubble giggles
Wol Euler: we could go dancing after this...
Eliza Madrigal: :) Fun
Eliza Madrigal: Adams can't wait
Eliza Madrigal: heheh
Adams Rubble: always wanted to dance in the pool
Eliza Madrigal: yeah... looks fun :)... clothes dry fast too
Adams Rubble: yes, isn;t that amazing :)
Eliza Madrigal thinks of times when she and friends put mr bubbles in fountains as a teen
Adams Rubble: :)
Wol Euler: :)
Nymf Hathaway: :))
Adams Rubble: how did it work out?
Eliza Madrigal: Oh My... You cannot imagine
Adams Rubble: hehe
Nymf Hathaway: :)
Eliza Madrigal: Once we really outdid ourselves in Coconut Grove
Eliza Madrigal: the police came... we ran :)
Adams Rubble: oh my (giggles)
Eliza Madrigal: Yes, we were almost charged with "criminal mischief"
Eliza Madrigal: or so they said to scare us :)
Adams Rubble: the beginnings of a life of crime
Eliza Madrigal: as you see :)
Nymf Hathaway: hahhaa
Wol Euler: heheheheh
Eliza Madrigal: I miss a little of that recklessness
Eliza Madrigal: sometimes :)
Nymf Hathaway: yes same here
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: That is why we get a second life :)
Eliza Madrigal: heh... good point.
Wol Euler: mmhmm, we can make mischief and play here
Wol Euler smiles
Nymf Hathaway: Thank you :)
Eliza Madrigal: :D Nice
Eliza Madrigal: :D
Wol Euler laughs
Wol Euler: face forward, please, nymf?
Wol Euler: this needs a photo!
Nymf Hathaway: Smiles
Adams Rubble taking photos too

Eliza Madrigal: ooo mine stopped.....
Adams Rubble: Adams Bubbles
Eliza Madrigal: ahhhhhhhh
Adams Rubble: and the Bubbles Quartet
Eliza Madrigal: hehehe
Eliza Madrigal: mr sandman...
Nymf Hathaway: a world of bubbles
Wol Euler: we'll post this shot on the log
Adams Rubble: yes
Eliza Madrigal: Adams is full of tricks... hehe
Adams Rubble collects freebies (giggles)
Wol Euler: ah!
Eliza Madrigal looks for Glinda
Adams Rubble: Glinda?
Nymf Hathaway: I like this one
Eliza Madrigal: The Good Witch
Wol Euler: ah!
Eliza Madrigal: hahah!! Great
Nymf Hathaway: Hello Sophia :)
Wol Euler: hi sophia
Nymf Hathaway: Isn't is great? :))
sophia Placebo: hi wol
sophia Placebo: hi nymf
sophia Placebo: hi all
Eliza Madrigal: hahaha.... what an welcome for Sophia
Adams Rubble: Oooooooooooo. Thannnkkkkkkksssssssssssss
Eliza Madrigal: Yes...marvelous
Adams Rubble: Hello Sophia :)
sophia Placebo: haha :)
Eliza Madrigal: with the bubbles too now it is Willie Wonka
Nymf Hathaway: :))
Adams Rubble: :)
Wol Euler: this seems doomed to be another silly session.
Adams Rubble looks shocked
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, why Wol? hehehe
Nymf Hathaway: Sorry :)
Wol Euler grins
Adams Rubble started it Nymf
Nymf Hathaway: the scripts are funny :)
sophia Placebo: hehe
sophia Placebo: chat lag
Adams Rubble: Yes, someone is going to have to make some sense of the log
Eliza Madrigal: that is what happens when you fly between worlds...
Eliza Madrigal: (chat lag)
Wol Euler: that someone would be yourself, I believe?
Adams Rubble llos serious
Adams Rubble looks serious too
Eliza Madrigal has no idea why she is situated as such
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Adams Rubble looks for Eliza
Adams Rubble: welcome Sophia :)
Adams Rubble: wow, quite an appearance Sophia
sophia Placebo: ty ^^
Adams Rubble thinks she will plagerize some other logs and work them in (giggles)
Wol Euler: :)
Nymf Hathaway: I need to log off, wishing everyone a good time, untill next one :)
Wol Euler: bye nymf, enjoy the evening
Adams Rubble: by Nymf. nice to see you. Thnaks for the animation
Eliza Madrigal: Bye nymf. good to see you :)
Nymf Hathaway: Same to you Wol :)
Nymf Hathaway: bye bye
sophia Placebo: bye nymf
Adams Rubble thinks of Stuart Smiley
Wol Euler: who?
sophia Placebo: that was happy silly moment
Adams Rubble thinks this was not her best session and that's OK
Wol Euler smiles and nods
Eliza Madrigal: hehe... we can hurry up and sqeeze some love stuff in there if you like? heheh
Adams Rubble: Wol, Stuart Smiley is a character from the American TV show Saturday Night Live
Adams Rubble: His shows always turned into some kind of disaster
Wol Euler: pfah.
Adams Rubble: and he alwasy eneded with this was not my best show
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Wol Euler: I see.
sophia Placebo: hehe
Adams Rubble: It was a twelve step program and people got out of hand
Adams Rubble: usually attacked him
Wol Euler: wow
Eliza Madrigal: And now he is a politician :)
Adams Rubble: The reator is the duly elected senator from Minnesota now but held up bt the recount
Adams Rubble: creator
Adams Rubble: yes Eliza :)
Eliza Madrigal nods
Adams Rubble: he did very funny politcal humor too
Eliza Madrigal: brilliant at times
Adams Rubble: / me beams at Eliza
Wol Euler: hmmmm
Adams Rubble: a certain minority party does not like him much
Eliza Madrigal: They consulted him for the skit "Barack Obama wants universal heathcare... is that so? Healthcare for the entire universe...even Osama Bin Laden??"
Adams Rubble: hehe
Adams Rubble still laughing
Adams Rubble: Hello Yakuzza
Wol Euler: hi yakuzza
sophia Placebo: hi yak:)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone
Eliza Madrigal: Hey Ya :)
Adams Rubble looks sternly at everyone (including herself) and points to recorder
Wol Euler adjusts her expression and sits up straight
Eliza Madrigal: OM
Adams Rubble giggles
Yakuzza Lethecus tries to relax his muscle´s then breethes the tension out
Adams Rubble: Eliza, Sophia or Yakuzza...do you have anything you would like to discuss. Some of the rest of us have been a bit silly
Wol Euler nods contritely wiht an expression of sorrow
Yakuzza Lethecus: as long as its not about himalayan animals or the japanese mafia :)
Adams Rubble comforts Wol
Adams Rubble doesn;t know anything about Japanese mafia
Eliza Madrigal: yet
Yakuzza Lethecus: nah, i was on PH before and those were just 2 little topics related to my nickname
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Adams Rubble not well versed on himylayan animals
sophia Placebo: appreciaing the silliness :)
Adams Rubble: ah
Yakuzza Lethecus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yak
Yakuzza Lethecus: :P
Adams Rubble: hehe
Adams Rubble likes Yaks
sophia Placebo: yak lokks like a lovely animal

Eliza and Yakuzza started things off with separate comments. The group eventually settled on books we have read

Eliza Madrigal: I have a bit of a situation in which I 'intend' to greet people 'anew' in life... yet they seem to be flooding into the picture faster than I can process....
Yakuzza Lethecus: What was the last book anybody read here ?
Wol Euler: last one we finished?
Adams Rubble wonders "read"???
Eliza Madrigal is reading a few books....
Adams Rubble: Eliza, would you like to say more?
Eliza Madrigal: but yes finished is a qualifier :)
Adams Rubble: Looking at people from a doifferent anngle?
Eliza Madrigal: Just throwing that out Adams... wondered if anyone has that experience
Adams Rubble: yes
Wol Euler: The last one I finished was "Going Postal" by Terry Pratchett; currently reading "The consolatoins of philosopy" by Alain de Botton and "the eighth day" by Thornton Wilder
Wol Euler: I always read at least two books at once
Adams Rubble: :)
sophia Placebo: long time no read here , last one was harry potter
Wol Euler: ah :)
Eliza Madrigal: yes.... but I'd like to do it systematically and life isn't doing that :)
Adams Rubble: I think my last was The Color Purple and I am afraid to read again
Eliza Madrigal has read all the Harry Potters with her kids
Eliza Madrigal: Anyone who likes those... should read Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norell....
Wol Euler: oh, adams
Eliza Madrigal: I'm reading Stim's book also... but very slowly "Time Space and Knowledge"
sophia Placebo: note taken
Adams Rubble has been reading Stim's book sonce last June
Eliza Madrigal: and a book called "Liberation in the Palm of Your Hand"
Eliza Madrigal: heheh...Adams... see how that is possible!
Adams Rubble: very slooooowwwwwly
Eliza Madrigal nods
Eliza Madrigal: yes, and another book about the Heart Sutra also... so dense.. read a few lines and have to close my eyes for a while and think...
Eliza Madrigal: like Pooh "think think" "think think"
Wol Euler: :)
Adams Rubble: :)
Wol Euler: there's a lot of good commonsense in Pooh.
sophia Placebo: heh
Eliza Madrigal nods and smiles
Eliza Madrigal: Actually, anyone who likes Dickens would like Jonathan Strange also
Eliza Madrigal: or Austen
Wol Euler: ah :)

A new avatar dropped in looking to have a conversation in voice

Adams Rubble: Hello A new avatar
Eliza Madrigal: Ya, what are you reading??
sophia Placebo: hi A new avatar
Eliza Madrigal: Hi A new avatar
Adams Rubble: Happy Birthday A new avatar
A new avatar: hello ^_^
Eliza Madrigal: :)
A new avatar: can you talk on this?
Adams Rubble: We are a "play as Being" group
Wol Euler: oh wow, welcome to second life!
Eliza Madrigal: lovely dress
Yakuzza Lethecus: hehe, i was glad that i brought a few words in the session :)
Adams Rubble: we use text here
A new avatar: the place where i just was people were talking
Eliza Madrigal: :) Ya... quite a few
Adams Rubble: I will give you a notecard
Yakuzza Lethecus: i just read a couple of textbooks, nothing really to the end
A new avatar: so what are you guys up to?
Eliza Madrigal: We've been playing, and dancing, and flying, and discussing books :)
Adams Rubble: The card will explain mpore about us
A new avatar: oh i see =)
Adams Rubble: We meditate for 9 seconds every 15 minutes and come here to discuss our explorations or sometimes other things like today
Wol Euler: I'm afraid we do mostly sit and talk ...
A new avatar: i have to go now, but i'll read the rest of the card later =D
Adams Rubble: The group meets here four times a day
Adams Rubble: OK, bye then. Enjoy second life :)
Eliza Madrigal: :) Bye A new avatar... good to meet you
A new avatar: i like talking, its best ^_^
A new avatar: bye bye

Ourvisitor gone, we resumed our conversation about reading

Yakuzza Lethecus: actually i should read more, i want for example read wittgensteins tractatus but i never came over the first 10 pages, i cheated on plato´s republic because i found the audio book and then i have a couple of books that might be interesting because i heard about them several times but didn´t really got over the first pages.
Yakuzza Lethecus: Like Skinners walden two...
Eliza Madrigal: Skinner's Walden?
Yakuzza Lethecus: two
Eliza Madrigal: Hm
Eliza Madrigal: The audios can be tricky...
Yakuzza Lethecus: the other was thorau
Eliza Madrigal: yes I know Th's..the other is new to me :)
Wol Euler: ambitious stuff...
Eliza Madrigal: Audios can be tricky....
Eliza Madrigal: for instance War and Peace on audio is NOT a good idea
Eliza Madrigal: too many names :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: Thoreau
sophia Placebo: bye
Adams Rubble: bye Sophia
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye
sophia Placebo: thanks for the happy time all :)
Adams Rubble: Thanks for coming :)
Eliza Madrigal: Bye sophia :)
Wol Euler: bye sophia, enjoy the evening
Eliza Madrigal: most men lead lives of quiet desperation....
Yakuzza Lethecus: i don´t know never really read much my whole life, i try to change that but i have to get rid from some emotions durion reading that trigger absentistic behavior :D
Yakuzza Lethecus: during
Wol Euler nods
Eliza Madrigal: We have a housing complex down the street, with a lake...named "Walden".. the lake has a tall fence around it!
Eliza Madrigal: Awful
Adams Rubble: ouch
Eliza Madrigal looks up absentistic
Adams Rubble wonders if Eliza wouold tell me too

Reading and Education and "Imposter Syndrome"

Wol Euler: so many people are put off reading by school, being forced to read the wrong books at the wrong time
Wol Euler: which is a terrible waste of possible future happiness
Adams Rubble: It IS much a matter of reading the right book at the right time
Eliza Madrigal nods
Wol Euler: there is so much snobbery in schools about what one may read
Eliza Madrigal: there is a huge difference between learning and schooling, in general
Adams Rubble: well, not so much snobbery as not knowing the students
Eliza Madrigal: there was an article years ago, about imposter syndrome....
Adams Rubble: A book that might work for one group will fail with another
Eliza Madrigal: and how most academics haven't read all that they feel they 'should' have or must seem to have :)
Wol Euler smiles and nods to Eliza.
Eliza Madrigal: there are party games also... centered around that idea :)
Wol Euler: it's something very basic and human, apparently almost all of us feel it at least in some situations
Eliza Madrigal nods
Eliza Madrigal: It touches on something Ade brought up yesterday about social signaling
Wol Euler: oh! say more, please?
Eliza Madrigal: and 'seeming' to belong in a group... hidden and overt messages....
Eliza Madrigal: it was a great topic, but I only stayed a little while....
Yakuzza Lethecus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impostor_Syndrome
Eliza Madrigal: she was after a specific idea.. wonder if she found it :)
Eliza Madrigal knows many people who have reverse imposter syndrome... hehe
Adams Rubble: :)
Eliza Madrigal: I'm kidding... would love to have that uber-confidence some have though :)
Wol Euler: eheheheh
Adams Rubble: It takes the fun out of academics
Adams Rubble: the feeling one is not up to it
Eliza Madrigal: Adams, you think so? Does it not keep a little excitement alive to feel over one's head.. or that you somehow snuck in?
Eliza Madrigal: in general... I feel like that here some days... hehe
Adams Rubble: It creates a pressure that interferes with the excitement
Adams Rubble: whoops
Wol Euler: oh wow. You too, Eliza?
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Adams Rubble: we start out loving the adventure
Eliza Madrigal: thanks for that
Wol Euler: thank you for the company :)
Adams Rubble missed Eliza's statement. yes we all have felt that Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: Adams, and then ? Once it is part of the baseline then the pressure comes?
Adams Rubble: Well I was talking about academia with the pressure
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Adams Rubble: the constant comparisons with others
Eliza Madrigal: ah
Wol Euler nods
Adams Rubble: we can do that here if we want but it will make us unhappy
Adams Rubble: here we need to focus on ourselves
Adams Rubble: forget about where we may or may not be in comparison

Eliza Madrigal: :) would not be very playful to compare with others

I can't help myself and bring up Kira

Adams Rubble: I think that what Piet is doing with Kira is pretty much what we are talking about
Adams Rubble: He is trying to mix amateaurs and professionals and just have us all share
Adams Rubble: no pressures
Adams Rubble: no comparisons
Adams Rubble: just the adventure
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Adams Rubble steps down from the soapbox and falls into the pool
Adams Rubble: (spash)
Adams Rubble: plash
Adams Rubble: splash
Adams Rubble: hehe
Adams Rubble: messy landing
Wol Euler: eheheh

Helping and Comparitis

Adams Rubble: here loving and helping one another seems to be an antidote to comparing
Eliza Madrigal nods
Wol Euler nods. Much of the time, at least...
Eliza Madrigal: I'm of two thoughts simultaneously on comparitivitis.... I enjoy the wide open space of playing and experiencing 'first' and then talking about that....
Eliza Madrigal: but I also enjoy sitting in a room where I'm out of my depth/league entirely...
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: It challenges us
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Adams Rubble: If we are stoill here, let's ignore the next stop especially if it comes in the middle of thoughts. It is well past the hour :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: i disagree, its good with the break, even ok when you might type somethink a few seconds after but i like the break
Adams Rubble: OK
Yakuzza Lethecus: :)

Adams Rubble: I am going to have to go now. Would anyone mind if I close the log or would you prefer to go on?
Eliza Madrigal: Please feel free Adams :)
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks for guardianing
Wol Euler: sure, adams. take care, enjoy the rest of the day