2011.11.08 19:00 - Being or not Being

The Guardian for this meeting was Eos Amaterasu. The comments are by Eos Amaterasu.

Long silent period alone

Eos Amaterasu: hi Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: Hello Friend , quiet night so far I guess
Eos Amaterasu: yes. don't mind that at all
Eliza Madrigal: nor I
Eliza Madrigal: quiet space a gift wherever it appears
Eos Amaterasu: :-)

--BELL--

Eos Amaterasu: stillness in the two worlds
Eliza Madrigal savors

Long silent period together

Pema Pera: small world!
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Pema!
Pema Pera: (may have lots of lag; am in Penn Station now, in New York City)
Eos Amaterasu: hi Pema
Pema Pera: hi Eliza and Eos :)
Eliza Madrigal: a sneaky s
There is just one moon and one golden sun
And a smile means friendship to everyone.
Though the mountains divide
And the oceans are wide It's a small small world

--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal: -a sneaky s
Pema Pera smiles wide :-)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Pema Pera: I had a nice chat with Stim this afternoon
Eliza Madrigal: yes?
Pema Pera: about the many layers of understanding of what it means that within a view of Being there no longer are any (separate) beings
Eliza Madrigal: a very nice chat to have :)
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Pema Pera: from a vague notion of no-self in terms of not being so much self centered, all the way to really dropping any and all notions of self and other
Pema Pera: and how getting into that gets more and more odd and strange and totally different from anything you (could) expect
Pema Pera: and yes, to some extent I can testify to some of that, at least
Eliza Madrigal: vast implications
Eliza Madrigal listens
Pema Pera: to the extent that I have noticed so often, in the last few years, that I noticed how my understand today of wu-wei seems clearly deeper than yesterday, and so on
Pema Pera: yet the words to describe it to others would remain the same
Pema Pera: . . . (end of story, for now :-)
Eliza Madrigal: so what changes... sense of presence? trust?
Pema Pera: good question (Stim would say :-)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Pema Pera: and look enigmatically with a half smile
Eliza Madrigal grins widely at both pema and stim, eos too...
Pema Pera: O, there is O, hi O !
Eliza Madrigal: and O! :)
Pema Pera: O la la
Eliza Madrigal gives O notes of discussion so far...
Pema Pera: ... and O went under with the notes . . .
Eliza Madrigal: ah, maybe the notes knocked him off line... weighty
Eliza Madrigal: haha
Eos Amaterasu: should I be or should I not
Pema Pera: O! no! notes!
Eos Amaterasu: (to the tune of "should i stay or should I go")
Pema Pera: (^_^)
Eliza Madrigal: c'mon and let me know...
Pema Pera: perhaps O just read about "no beings"
Eliza Madrigal: must be
Eos Amaterasu: mirror neurons
Pema Pera: and took a hint: "O !"
Eliza Madrigal: is that a good hint... less and less in the way?
Pema Pera: less and less O at least . . . .
Eliza Madrigal: or do/can scales apply?
Pema Pera: scales?
Pema Pera: notes too heavy?
Eliza Madrigal: less/more/high/low
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eos Amaterasu: max itness
Pema Pera: wb O
Eliza Madrigal: WB Sam :)
Pema Pera: re: "no beings" I'm thinking about the expression of "being in a flow"
Eos Amaterasu: your intentionality is pure call by future (re no-being)
oO0Oo Resident: (((0, Eos, Eliza, Pema)))
Pema Pera: it's interesting that we don't say "I have a flow"
Eliza Madrigal: it is
Pema Pera: a futures market for no-being?
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Pema Pera: prognosis for no-being and pork bellies
Eos Amaterasu: identity is only after the fact
Pema Pera: always just too late . . .

--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal banks on that
Eos Amaterasu: in the current moment there is no identity - only outlook
Pema Pera: like between sleeping and waking
Pema Pera: (as O described in the 99 days entry yesterday :-)
Eliza Madrigal nods and listens
Pema Pera always enjoys O's thoughtful reflections
Eliza Madrigal nods too
Eliza Madrigal: the 99 days has been such a flow, speaking of
Eliza Madrigal: a collaborative weaving
Pema Pera: being noted had the same effect as passing on notes . . .
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Pema Pera: yes, re flow!
Eos Amaterasu: mosaic
Eliza Madrigal: mosaic, yes :) and a fresh picture of all through each angle
Pema Pera: bottle organ
Eos Amaterasu: re being and no-being, along the way personal intentions dissolve into weather
Pema Pera: http://www.bottleorgan.com/
Eliza Madrigal: hmm
Eliza Madrigal considers that while page loads... dissolving into weather
Eos Amaterasu: elemental
Pema Pera: rain or shine
Pema Pera: hi ho O !
Eos Amaterasu: sun-faced, moon-faced (with a bow to Eliza's poem)
Eos Amaterasu: (full moon approaching)
Pema Pera looks at battery power, and realizes that he has to sign off soon
Eliza Madrigal: Welcome back 0 :) And maybe O's poem...
Eos Amaterasu: I will also leave at the bell
Eliza Madrigal: OK Pema, nice to see you
Pema Pera: good seeing you all !
oO0Oo Resident: pema:)
Pema Pera: bfn
Eos Amaterasu: bye Pema, wb O
Eliza Madrigal: Srry so much trouble staying inword tonight Sam
oO0Oo Resident: No worries, and all the best Eos.. Nice to se you.. even for a little while...
oO0Oo Resident: ty Eliza

--BELL--

Eos Amaterasu: bye Eliza and Sam
Eliza Madrigal: Night Eos :)
oO0Oo Resident: night Eos :)
Eliza Madrigal: Will sign off as well... so sleepy but what a nice day
oO0Oo Resident: Stevenaia!
stevenaia Michinaga: waves
stevenaia Michinaga: everyone going to bed?
Eliza Madrigal: ah, Hi Stevenaia...
Eliza Madrigal: yes I'm up later than intended by now... wake quite early
stevenaia Michinaga: hmmm, I should do my 99 day before I go to bed
stevenaia Michinaga: night Leisa
Eliza Madrigal: :) yes
stevenaia Michinaga: E
oO0Oo Resident: Night Eliza rest well
Eliza Madrigal smiles at all the name potentials
stevenaia Michinaga: hehe
Eliza Madrigal: Thank you
Eliza Madrigal: Namaste'
stevenaia Michinaga: how are you, Samúð
oO0Oo Resident: good thanks Stevenaia... been crashing a fair amount.. the network is overburdened here... but happy enough i suppose
oO0Oo Resident: how are you?
stevenaia Michinaga: sleepie, long day
oO0Oo Resident: mmm
stevenaia Michinaga: but tai chi awaits before bed
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Tess
Tess Aristocrat: hi ㋡
oO0Oo Resident: feel free to enter your 99 days while we sit... I'll rub your feet :)
oO0Oo Resident: Hi tess :)
stevenaia Michinaga: was going to wait until after the next break , but let me begin now, brb
stevenaia Michinaga: thx, smiles
oO0Oo Resident: How are you tess?
Tess Aristocrat: I'm happy
oO0Oo Resident: :)))
oO0Oo Resident: glad
Tess Aristocrat: how are you, dear one ㋡
oO0Oo Resident looks over each shoulder, then points to chest and lips the word "me?"
oO0Oo Resident: pretty good actually
Tess Aristocrat: good ㋡
oO0Oo Resident: hard not to feel good when people show up and call you " :)dear"
Tess Aristocrat: near miss asteroids always have that effect, I guess...
oO0Oo Resident: right
Tess Aristocrat: hahaha...well, you are dear ㋡
oO0Oo Resident: I mean so long as there is an outside chance of these asteroid collisions... we might consider holding everybody dear IMHO
oO0Oo Resident: ty Tess :)
Tess Aristocrat: yes ;)
Tess Aristocrat: and I do..
oO0Oo Resident: indeed
oO0Oo Resident: capacious heart
Tess Aristocrat: *retrieves small dictionary...
Tess Aristocrat giggles
oO0Oo Resident: though I saw a TED talk recently that encourages people to thank each other for specific things... LOL sometimes known as a *BIG* heart LOL
Tess Aristocrat: you know..I have observed that FB is a good place for that very thing..

--BELL--

Tess Aristocrat: and.. that it is quite contagious, as you see one person 'liking' another person's comment or picture and how that will grow ..
oO0Oo Resident: likes "ThanksBook"
oO0Oo Resident: ... forgive the delay... thought I might turn up the TED link... hmmm
Tess Aristocrat: goodnight dear people ㋡
oO0Oo Resident: Night tess
stevenaia Michinaga: back
oO0Oo Resident: wb
stevenaia Michinaga: what a mess , should not do sleepie tai chi
stevenaia Michinaga: cat attacked me
oO0Oo Resident: well plus i was grabbing at your feet
stevenaia Michinaga: that would do it :)
oO0Oo Resident: :)
oO0Oo Resident: If i keep doing that... then when i stop it will be like so much easier
stevenaia Michinaga: that could take a while
stevenaia Michinaga: time to put my log on and go to sleep, night sam
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
oO0Oo Resident: Night Stevenaia
oO0Oo Resident: :)
oO0Oo Resident: Ah! Found it! http://is.gd/51Z2Mm