2011.11.21 13:00 - Pontification and Primulation

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The Guardian for this meeting was Agatha Macbeth. The comments are by Agatha Macbeth.  So there I was, sitting on a cushion in the open air (as you do) minding my own business, when a familiar figure suddenly shot past me....

 

Agatha Macbeth: Nice of you to skate by :p
Agatha Macbeth: How are we?
Wol Euler: we is good
Wol Euler: and us?
Agatha Macbeth: Good
Agatha Macbeth: Great
Wol Euler: nice
Agatha Macbeth: Truly
Agatha Macbeth: Busy?
Wol Euler: not really
Wol Euler: left the office early at 5:30 :)
Agatha Macbeth: Good grief
Wol Euler: because of headache and general damn-not-giving-ness
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Agatha Macbeth rubs your head
Agatha Macbeth: I do like that hair

I put on a demo hair
Agatha Macbeth: What do you think of this one?
Wol Euler: ooon
Wol Euler: nice
Agatha Macbeth: Ooon?
Agatha Macbeth: Mmm
Agatha Macbeth: I saw a friend of a friend wearing it and wondered where it was from
Agatha Macbeth: A place called Emo-tions, know it?
Wol Euler: oh yes :)
Wol Euler: most of my hair is from there
Agatha Macbeth: Thought so :)
Wol Euler: the one-eye that you hated was from them
Agatha Macbeth: Oh god
Wol Euler: heheeh
Agatha Macbeth: Didn't see that one
Agatha Macbeth: (fortunately)
Wol Euler: well it's a huge store
Wol Euler: and veyr poorly laid out in the sense of finding stuff by theme
Wol Euler: IMHO
Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
Agatha Macbeth: Actually I thought the very same
Agatha Macbeth: seemed to be a huge waste of space in the middle
Agatha Macbeth: everything is around the perimeter
Wol Euler: I infered that it was some kind of roleplaying thing
Agatha Macbeth: Mm, possibly
Wol Euler: it had that feel to it
Wol Euler: hello berti
Bertram Jacobus: hello, you, people :-)
Agatha Macbeth: but not a good layout, no
Agatha Macbeth: makes you walk too far
Agatha Macbeth: Hiya Berti :)

Wol's hair changes to black
Wol Euler: this is emo-tions
Wol Euler: my faun hair
Agatha Macbeth: That's nice actually
Wol Euler: it's a bit ratty for human-me, but it suits the faun perfectly
Agatha Macbeth: I think it's nice
Agatha Macbeth: but am used to seeing you red now :)
Agatha Macbeth: (and prefer it)
Bertram Jacobus: hehe : ladies talk ... :o)
Wol Euler: like this? :)
Wol Euler: heheheh
Agatha Macbeth: Yes Berti, sorry
Wol Euler: sorry to bore you, bert

Red reappears
Agatha Macbeth: YAY
Bertram Jacobus: np at all ! :-)
Agatha Macbeth: Ok Bert, we'll shut up now
Bertram Jacobus: i´m happy that you talk to each other about such topics : ma gf sometimes wants to tell me such (!) ... *grr* :o)
Agatha Macbeth: Awww
Bertram Jacobus: lol
Agatha Macbeth: poor Satia, how does she put up with you? [grin]
Wol Euler: heheheh
Bertram Jacobus: no idea - and my question is : how does she put up with herself (!) ? ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: So, anybody have anything more profound to discuss?
Bertram Jacobus: and i so often tell her : ya need gfs ! :o)
Wol Euler listens to the echoing silence
Agatha Macbeth: I don't have one myself...
Bertram Jacobus: if not ("more profound") pls feel free to continue !
Bertram Jacobus: as said before : i enjoy it so much
Wol Euler: you could tell us about lojong, berti
Agatha Macbeth: Is that tea?
Wol Euler: heheh
Bertram Jacobus: oohh - THAT is a very special, complex and big topic wol ! :-)
Agatha Macbeth: It was a serious question :p
Agatha Macbeth: So what is lojong?
Agatha Macbeth: Don't say the opposite of hijong :p
Bertram Jacobus: and no aggers : it´s a so to say "section" of trainings of tibetan buddhism i started to practice since a few days ...
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, great
Agatha Macbeth: Pls tell us more
Zon Kwan: hi
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Znk :)
    --BELL--
Bertram Jacobus: it´s the first time that i started to engage myself in a so to say commitment for a longer period : one year i shall now practice these trainings / meditations / contemplations (!)
Alfred Kelberry: hi girls :)
Bertram Jacobus: hi zon and alf :-)
Agatha Macbeth: Boxy!
Alfred Kelberry: aga girl
Wol Euler pulls boxy's tail
Alfred Kelberry: good to see you after a short break
Alfred Kelberry: *wiggles*
Agatha Macbeth: Let us know how you get on with them Bert
Bertram Jacobus: we started with around 10 people, got our first instructions, teachings and explanations over the last weekend ---
Agatha Macbeth nods
Bertram Jacobus: i write on the pab site about it - that was wols suggestion ...
Wol Euler smiles.
Agatha Macbeth: Lojong (Wylie: blo sbyong) is a mind training practice in the Tibetan Buddhist tradition based on a set of aphorisms formulated in Tibet in the 12th century by Geshe Chekhawa. The practice involves refining and purifying one's motivations and attitudes.
Alfred Kelberry: oh, committed berty
Bertram Jacobus: yep
Wol Euler applauds
Agatha Macbeth: Can't beat a good aphorism
Wol Euler: my hero.
Bertram Jacobus: every day at least one hour practice
Alfred Kelberry: wow
Bertram Jacobus: a big challenge to me
Alfred Kelberry: *pats berty's back*
Alfred Kelberry: we believe in you :)
Wol Euler: makes my inability to find 5 daily minutes for the 99 Days look pretty pathetic
Agatha Macbeth: Has he swallowed something?
Bertram Jacobus: because i´m really not good with continuity
Alfred Kelberry: woly, indeed
Wol Euler: :-P
Agatha Macbeth hugs Wol
Alfred Kelberry: *pokes woly*
Agatha Macbeth: I'm alright with continuity, it's getting started that's the problem
Bertram Jacobus: lets see - i only started this weekend ... hope, that i will be able to do it, regulary ...
Alfred Kelberry: both is hard, aga
Agatha Macbeth: Mmm
Wol Euler: the 99 days may help you with that, berti. failing so publicly is an incentive to continue :)
Bertram Jacobus: ah ! (aggers) - i think, a very big help for me is a wonderful teacher who offers and companies this
Alfred Kelberry: yes, we'll be watching you, berty :)
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, a good sensei always helps
Bertram Jacobus: hehe - ty everybody ! :-)
Agatha Macbeth: Yay for berti!
Bertram Jacobus: sensei - is that from japan, zen ?
Agatha Macbeth: And satia too
Alfred Kelberry: teacher in japanese
Agatha Macbeth: Hai
Alfred Kelberry: moshi moshi
Bertram Jacobus: s a t i a take refuge that weekend - was REALLY nice
Wol Euler: awwwww <3
Agatha Macbeth: Refuge is always good
Alfred Kelberry: wait, why each letter is spaced? :)
Bertram Jacobus: sun came out while the ceremony and bells from a nearby church rang ... :-)
Wol Euler smiles.
Agatha Macbeth: Where was that?
Bertram Jacobus: because, whe i write satia, a gesture takes place boxy :o)
Wol Euler: that's a german habit, boxy :)
Bertram Jacobus: oops - now there was no gesture ! ... hmmm
Alfred Kelberry: lovely, berty. um, sorry, what was the ceremony?
Bertram Jacobus: ··..•♥•··..☺ SaTiA ☺ ..··•♥•..··
Wol Euler: before typesetting, when people wanted to emphasize something they would s p a c e the letters out
Bertram Jacobus: *grin*
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe you switched it off Bert
Alfred Kelberry: geez
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Wol Euler: typically used when first introducing a name (like in a scientific paper)
Agatha Macbeth: InSATIAble
Alfred Kelberry: i thought they typed in UPPSERCASE
Agatha Macbeth: Cant beat UPSERCASE :D
Wol Euler: perhaps but that was not common
Bertram Jacobus: the so called "refuge" ceremony - a kind of serious beginning to walk on the buddhist path boxy
Alfred Kelberry: ok, another indication of a 40+ :)
Agatha Macbeth: You don't see many 40- here
Alfred Kelberry: fair enough
Wol Euler: 140 plus actually, last century
Wol Euler: though it is still used in the depths of bureaucracies
Agatha Macbeth: You are? [giggle]
Wol Euler: the kind of places that call photographs "light images"
Alfred Kelberry: well, double spacing is rare
Wol Euler: in english nearly unknown
Alfred Kelberry: thankfully
Wol Euler: in german common
Wol Euler: then
Agatha Macbeth: Only after full stops for me
Wol Euler shuts up.
Alfred Kelberry: light images - i like it
Agatha Macbeth: Why?
Alfred Kelberry: um...
Wol Euler is annoyed by her own pontificating
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Agatha Macbeth: You aren't pont...wotsit
Alfred Kelberry: du pont
Agatha Macbeth: Just being informative
Agatha Macbeth: which is something you excel at
Alfred Kelberry: ah, new hair
Alfred Kelberry: i think
Agatha Macbeth: A Wollie classic
Alfred Kelberry: nikita style
Alfred Kelberry: but no gun
Agatha Macbeth: Khrushchev?
Alfred Kelberry: huh?
Alfred Kelberry: oh... yea
Agatha Macbeth: The man who banged tables
Alfred Kelberry: stress makes a difference
Wol Euler: with his assistant's shoe
Wol Euler: famously
Agatha Macbeth: Stress always makes a difference
Bertram Jacobus: everything always makes a difference (?) ;-)
Agatha Macbeth hums 'under pressure'
Wol Euler: heh, true
Wol Euler: and yes, boxy, new
Alfred Kelberry: good song
    --BELL--
Alfred Kelberry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-rkJmRiFug
Agatha Macbeth: I read that as 'good snog' :)
Wol Euler: can't imagine why
Agatha Macbeth: Me either...
Alfred Kelberry: i love the kind of connection freddie had with the audience
Agatha Macbeth: Kruger?
Bertram Jacobus: a genius ...
Alfred Kelberry: must be so energetic. a meditation of its own.
Agatha Macbeth: He was good with a chainsaw
Bertram Jacobus: mercury ... (written correctly) ?
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Agatha Macbeth: The messenger
Alfred Kelberry: bulsara :)
Bertram Jacobus: so charismatic
Agatha Macbeth: Same to you
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Alfred Kelberry: *licks woly's nosie*
Agatha Macbeth: Isn't it the 20th anniversary soon?
Wol Euler: of ...?
Agatha Macbeth: FM's death
Wol Euler: ah
Wol Euler: google would know
Alfred Kelberry: what? he died?
Agatha Macbeth: well, not in SL
Alfred Kelberry: you tell me elvis is dead too?
Agatha Macbeth: a friend of mine saw him on stage not long back
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Aph

Alfred Kelberry: aph :)
Wol Euler: well done aggers, nov 24 1991
Wol Euler: you are a star.

Bertram Jacobus: hi aph :-)

Alfred Kelberry: geez, so long ago
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi
Alfred Kelberry: time sucks
Wol Euler: boxy wasn't even born then :)
Aphrodite Macbain: time sucks?
Wol Euler: hello aph
Agatha Macbeth: Ooh, three days away
Alfred Kelberry: i was!
Wol Euler: heheheheheh
Aphrodite Macbain: forweard backward and sideways?
Alfred Kelberry: :P
Agatha Macbeth: I'm glad you mentioned that Alf
Alfred Kelberry: what? the time thing?
Agatha Macbeth: otherwise I would totally have forgotten
Alfred Kelberry: oh
Aphrodite Macbain: I read about your interesting visitor yesterday Wol
Bertram Jacobus: why do you think that time sucks boxy - greeding for life ? ;-)
Wol Euler smiles ruefully
Alfred Kelberry: berty, that too :)
Aphrodite Macbain: a true challenge of the first water
Wol Euler: thank you for your supportive comment, aph, it was appreciated
Bertram Jacobus: and what else boxy , pls ? :-)
Alfred Kelberry: cause it passes too fast
Alfred Kelberry: and we have so little of it
Agatha Macbeth: Agreed Alf
Aphrodite Macbain: Glad you read it. it made me realize how I can do that too
Wol Euler: I really hate doing that, but he gave us no choice.
Aphrodite Macbain: write away without paying attention to what others are saying
Aphrodite Macbain: He had an axe to grind
Alfred Kelberry: oh, you banned someone, woly?!
Agatha Macbeth: What did he actually say then?
Aphrodite Macbain: and really 
Wol Euler: no, boxy, but it was close
Aphrodite Macbain: wasn't that convincing
Alfred Kelberry: gee, i miss all the fun sessions :/
Wol Euler: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/Chat_Logs/2011/11/2011.11.20_13:00_-_Together_Holding_a_Song:_Of_Empathy_and_Mother_Bears
Aphrodite Macbain: He yelled at the personn IN CAPITAL LETTERS!
Agatha Macbeth: Doen't sound too funny to me :(
Alfred Kelberry: must. read.
Aphrodite Macbain: NOT FUNNY AT ALL
Aphrodite Macbain: oops
Wol Euler: it wasn't.
Agatha Macbeth: i will look afterwards Wol, thx
Wol Euler: yw
Aphrodite Macbain: I see you're wearing protective headgear today Wol
Alfred Kelberry: seeker?
Aphrodite Macbain: yes
Wol Euler: heheh
Alfred Kelberry: aph, it's her new haircut
Agatha Macbeth smiles
Aphrodite Macbain: ah
Bertram Jacobus: one of the lojong aphorisms deals with such, not only one even - i´ll search it. just a minute pls ...
Aphrodite Macbain zooms in and waits for it to rezz

At this point, we made several references to another guardian who was not present. After consulting with Wol, I thought it better to edit out their name....


Alfred Kelberry: ****** :)
Aphrodite Macbain: no not at all
Agatha Macbeth: Where is ****** lately?
Aphrodite Macbain: Oh red hair- nice
Wol Euler knows but cannot tell :)
Agatha Macbeth: I miss him
Wol Euler giggles.
Aphrodite Macbain: Hmmm
Alfred Kelberry: secrecy
Aphrodite Macbain: wonders whether ****** has other avis
Aphrodite Macbain: I am so tired of secrets
Aphrodite Macbain: Makes me feel left out
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Wol Euler: aph, she wants to tell the group herself in her own time
Aphrodite Macbain: OK
Wol Euler: I know because she asked my advice on a technical matter
Aphrodite Macbain: I know, I'm just feeling mopey
Bertram Jacobus: "when i meet poeple with a difficult character, drawn by his bad karma, i will tarin my mind in loving such persons and take them as my best teachers" (not literally)
Wol Euler: awwwww
Alfred Kelberry: mopey :)
Agatha Macbeth: Er...'she' who?
Alfred Kelberry: ******
Aphrodite Macbain: I liked the way everyone rallied together yesterday after that experience. it seemed to have brought you closer
Agatha Macbeth: Thought ****** is male?
Wol Euler nods to Bertram. Eliza said something pretty similar
Wol Euler: um, sorry, yes. ****** is male. My mistake
    --BELL--
Wol Euler slaps her own hand
Aphrodite Macbain: right
Agatha Macbeth: Ok, I'll shut up
Aphrodite Macbain smiles at Bertram
Bertram Jacobus: such persons really are regarded as very kind helpers - because otherwise we couldn´t develop loving kindness, patience and all the good qualities (!)
Wol Euler chuckles.
Bertram Jacobus: but it´s a training to develop such a view, such thoughts and such feelings towards such persons
Aphrodite Macbain: the good old bengali teaboy- there to test us
Wol Euler: right
Bertram Jacobus: now i stop to pontificate - although far too late ...
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Aphrodite Macbain: just a nice observation Bertram
Alfred Kelberry: ha!
Alfred Kelberry: seeker is funny
Wol Euler: seeker ... nah, skip it

And now for something completely different...
Aphrodite Macbain: I've finished making my piece for the Reflection-themed art as bing. I'm turning into a modernist- making oversized abstract sculptures
Alfred Kelberry: tl;dr though
Wol Euler: I can assure you that none of us was amused, boxy.
Aphrodite Macbain: art as being
Wol Euler: nice, aph
Wol Euler smiles.
Alfred Kelberry: oh, cool, aphie
Alfred Kelberry: can you show it to us?
Aphrodite Macbain: Lots of challenges- applying one skin over another
Aphrodite Macbain: sure. I'll try
Alfred Kelberry: erect the structure!  [ahem]

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Agatha Macbeth: ty Aph
Aphrodite Macbain: It is suppoed to reflect the dome
Aphrodite Macbain: *supposed
Alfred Kelberry: oh, very nice
Agatha Macbeth: Oh, intersesting
Agatha Macbeth: (can't spell that word)
Bertram Jacobus: nice object ! ...
Alfred Kelberry: great, aph!
Aphrodite Macbain: hard to make something look reflective
Alfred Kelberry: yes
Agatha Macbeth mouselooks
Aphrodite Macbain: I hope you appreciate the magical gap between them. separated by hidden tension
Alfred Kelberry: aga :)
Alfred Kelberry: "mouselooks" - i like it
Wol Euler: of course!
Aphrodite Macbain: wish it could reflect aggers!
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Alfred Kelberry: aga is reflected in all the things beautiful
Aphrodite Macbain: any suggestions for improvement? I ahve lots of time
Agatha Macbeth: Looks like a mirror
Aphrodite Macbain: *have
Aphrodite Macbain: good!
Aphrodite Macbain: It should look even more like a mirror when it's in the dome
Agatha Macbeth: Hmm, very nice
Alfred Kelberry: i'd give it an icy surface
Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks!

Wol decides to sit on it
Agatha Macbeth: That looks painful Wol
Aphrodite Macbain: I have, I have a separate pair of pyramids made of ice that I pull over them
Wol Euler: it was, actually
Alfred Kelberry: oh, great
Agatha Macbeth: Erk
Bertram Jacobus: some like it painful (tz) ...
Aphrodite Macbain: but I dont know how to link them
Wol Euler: hmmm
Agatha Macbeth looks sideways at Bert
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Wol Euler: do you mean the SL building kind of linking, so that they hang together as one object?
Agatha Macbeth: I see a 'ghost' behind it
Aphrodite Macbain: yes , linking the icey surfaced shapes with the reflective surface shapes
Alfred Kelberry: it's the icy cover
Aphrodite Macbain: yes
Agatha Macbeth: Aha
Wol Euler: oh,yes in the bushes
Aphrodite Macbain: But it is eaier to move together if they were linked
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Alfred Kelberry: you did link the 2 pyramids, aph. do the same with the cover.
Wol Euler: so they *are* linked actually, as pairs, but the pairs are not linked to each other
Wol Euler: best do to this in an sandbox I think
Agatha Macbeth: Complex stuff
Wol Euler: what I would do is to position them not by eye, but numically
Wol Euler: on the "object" tab of the editing dialog
Agatha Macbeth: Num...whatically?
Alfred Kelberry: lift!
Aphrodite Macbain: numerically?
Alfred Kelberry: heave ho!
Agatha Macbeth: She's not giving birth Alf!
Wol Euler: set the X Y Z values to simple convenient whole numbers
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Wol Euler: then edit the other and set its position to the same numbers
Aphrodite Macbain: too hard to do here
Wol Euler: tehy will then be exactly centred together
Aphrodite Macbain: I've never used the numbers, always worked by eye
Wol Euler: no, easy to do
Wol Euler: look at the edit dialog, go to the tab "object"
Alfred Kelberry: copy paste them
Aphrodite Macbain: that's why my things are a lille wu wei!
Agatha Macbeth: Wol is an expert :)
Wol Euler: no not copy paste, note
Aphrodite Macbain: feel free to edit Wol.
Wol Euler: right now X value is 67.1784
Alfred Kelberry: why not, woly?
Wol Euler: change that to 67
Alfred Kelberry: copy paste is the fastest thing
Wol Euler: Y value is 40.5271, change that to 40
Aphrodite Macbain: I would be delighted. But then you need to link them so they are stuck together
Agatha Macbeth looks on bewildered
Aphrodite Macbain: (((Wol)))
    --BELL--
Wol Euler: Z value is 105.5821, czhange that to 106
Wol Euler: I can't change them for you aph, I don't have the rights to them
Alfred Kelberry: aph, you can iterate through objects via a combination... which i forgot
Wol Euler: boxy the reason you can't copy and paste is that all three values are separate
Alfred Kelberry: yes, i mean, do it 3 times :)
Aphrodite Macbain: Oh I have changed all the permissions so anyone can modify. Sigh
Agatha Macbeth: I could never play 3D chess either...
Wol Euler: and you have to open prim1 to copy x, open prim 2 to paste x, open prim 1 to copy y, open prim2 to paste y ... that is far harder
Aphrodite Macbain: exactly
Wol Euler: oh wow, I can edit it!
Alfred Kelberry: no! do it yourself, aph!
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe Aph gave you permissions?
Alfred Kelberry: yep
Alfred Kelberry: scroll up :)
Wol Euler: ah... their centres are not the same ...
Agatha Macbeth: Eccentric...
Aphrodite Macbain: where's the camera in SL 3
Alfred Kelberry: alt+mouse
Agatha Macbeth: Good question!
Aphrodite Macbain: wish they'd stop changing the viewer
Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
Alfred Kelberry: it's been so since v1
Wol Euler: hmmm, still not quite right
Alfred Kelberry: yep
Alfred Kelberry: aph's wu-wei style :)
Aphrodite Macbain: Well it neds to be tight against the inner surface
Alfred Kelberry: my twitter box uses this technique
Aphrodite Macbain: where the h is the camera?
Wol Euler: um, careful, it needs a centimetre of space at least else the surfaces conflict and you get ugly moiree patterns

(Who's Ugly Moiree?)
Aphrodite Macbain: oh OK
Aphrodite Macbain: a centimetre
Alfred Kelberry: aph, hold alt + left click
Alfred Kelberry: add ctrl and you can move up and down
Aphrodite Macbain: Found it
Bertram Jacobus: i´ll steal my self away silently - have fun ! ty ! may all beings be happy pls ... *wave*
Wol Euler: funny, I can edit the linked set as a whole but not the individual prims
Wol Euler: be bert
Wol Euler: oh! meditation now at PP?
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! Bertram
Agatha Macbeth: May all Berts be happy :)
Bertram Jacobus: noo - meditation was yesterday
Agatha Macbeth: Yes Wol, a day late :(
Wol Euler: I thought so but I got an IM about it when I logged on today
Agatha Macbeth: Odd
Agatha Macbeth: Lag maybe?
Aphrodite Macbain: It looks kinda nice like that. As tho it were immersed in ice rather than with a skin of ice
Alfred Kelberry: yep
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, like a mirror in ice
Wol Euler: yeah, just need to move the upper part of the outer pair down a little
Aphrodite Macbain: Let's leave it that way. But they still need to be linked
Wol Euler: so that it encloses the inner prism entirely
Wol Euler: but I can't do that
Aphrodite Macbain: Rats
Aphrodite Macbain: then all your time has been wasted
Alfred Kelberry: wuff!
Wol Euler: dunno why, won't let me edit the individual components
Aphrodite Macbain: Can I save the outer cover?
Wol Euler: no, you can still link them like this
Wol Euler: edit the inner one (you can grab the underside of the upper prism)
Wol Euler: got it?
Aphrodite Macbain: I have to go... Could you take what you've done and I'll get it from you later?
Aphrodite Macbain: I cant concentrate right now
Wol Euler: no, I can't take it
Wol Euler: it's not mine
Wol Euler: you have to take them
Agatha Macbeth: Not copyable?
Wol Euler: we can continue anohter day
Aphrodite Macbain: OK thanks I'll fit them together at the dome
Agatha Macbeth: This is something for the prim workshop maybe?
Alfred Kelberry: aga :)
Wol Euler: yes, that would be a good thing to learn there )
Aphrodite Macbain: yes, we only just got started and then it was over. I spent over an hour with Bleu later. She helped me with the pyramid linking
Alfred Kelberry: oh, well. off me goes.
Wol Euler: bye boxy, take care
Alfred Kelberry: thank you all for the nose interaction :)
Agatha Macbeth: bye Alfie, behave yourself
Aphrodite Macbain: me go too. Thanks for all your help Wol :-)
Aphrodite Macbain: and Boxy
Wol Euler: my pleasure!
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye!
Agatha Macbeth: Bye for now Aph, take care

Wol Euler: I wish we'd got it sorted, but what cna you do :)
Wol Euler: bye aph, take care
Aphrodite Macbain: doctors appt
Wol Euler: ah
Wol Euler: well, good luck. break an infection!
Agatha Macbeth: Oh, don't even mention those
Aphrodite Macbain: lol
Agatha Macbeth: You know, I was in hospital this time last year
Wol Euler: yeah, I remember.
Wol Euler: :(
Agatha Macbeth: A year already, jeez
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Wol Euler: a year that you are still with us
Agatha Macbeth: Yes
Agatha Macbeth: That's something I guess
    --BELL--
Agatha Macbeth: Tho to be honest I have felt fine since
Wol Euler: good!
Agatha Macbeth: Bye for now Wol, take care
Wol Euler: bye aggers, sleep well
Agatha Macbeth: :)

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