2011.11.21 13:00 - Pontification and Primulation

    The Guardian for this meeting was Agatha Macbeth. The comments are by Agatha Macbeth.  So there I was, sitting on a cushion in the open air (as you do) minding my own business, when a familiar figure suddenly shot past me....

     

    Agatha Macbeth: Nice of you to skate by :p
    Agatha Macbeth: How are we?
    Wol Euler: we is good
    Wol Euler: and us?
    Agatha Macbeth: Good
    Agatha Macbeth: Great
    Wol Euler: nice
    Agatha Macbeth: Truly
    Agatha Macbeth: Busy?
    Wol Euler: not really
    Wol Euler: left the office early at 5:30 :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Good grief
    Wol Euler: because of headache and general damn-not-giving-ness
    Agatha Macbeth: Aww
    Agatha Macbeth rubs your head
    Agatha Macbeth: I do like that hair

    I put on a demo hair
    Agatha Macbeth: What do you think of this one?
    Wol Euler: ooon
    Wol Euler: nice
    Agatha Macbeth: Ooon?
    Agatha Macbeth: Mmm
    Agatha Macbeth: I saw a friend of a friend wearing it and wondered where it was from
    Agatha Macbeth: A place called Emo-tions, know it?
    Wol Euler: oh yes :)
    Wol Euler: most of my hair is from there
    Agatha Macbeth: Thought so :)
    Wol Euler: the one-eye that you hated was from them
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh god
    Wol Euler: heheeh
    Agatha Macbeth: Didn't see that one
    Agatha Macbeth: (fortunately)
    Wol Euler: well it's a huge store
    Wol Euler: and veyr poorly laid out in the sense of finding stuff by theme
    Wol Euler: IMHO
    Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
    Agatha Macbeth: Actually I thought the very same
    Agatha Macbeth: seemed to be a huge waste of space in the middle
    Agatha Macbeth: everything is around the perimeter
    Wol Euler: I infered that it was some kind of roleplaying thing
    Agatha Macbeth: Mm, possibly
    Wol Euler: it had that feel to it
    Wol Euler: hello berti
    Bertram Jacobus: hello, you, people :-)
    Agatha Macbeth: but not a good layout, no
    Agatha Macbeth: makes you walk too far
    Agatha Macbeth: Hiya Berti :)

    Wol's hair changes to black
    Wol Euler: this is emo-tions
    Wol Euler: my faun hair
    Agatha Macbeth: That's nice actually
    Wol Euler: it's a bit ratty for human-me, but it suits the faun perfectly
    Agatha Macbeth: I think it's nice
    Agatha Macbeth: but am used to seeing you red now :)
    Agatha Macbeth: (and prefer it)
    Bertram Jacobus: hehe : ladies talk ... :o)
    Wol Euler: like this? :)
    Wol Euler: heheheh
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes Berti, sorry
    Wol Euler: sorry to bore you, bert

    Red reappears
    Agatha Macbeth: YAY
    Bertram Jacobus: np at all ! :-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Ok Bert, we'll shut up now
    Bertram Jacobus: i´m happy that you talk to each other about such topics : ma gf sometimes wants to tell me such (!) ... *grr* :o)
    Agatha Macbeth: Awww
    Bertram Jacobus: lol
    Agatha Macbeth: poor Satia, how does she put up with you? [grin]
    Wol Euler: heheheh
    Bertram Jacobus: no idea - and my question is : how does she put up with herself (!) ? ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: So, anybody have anything more profound to discuss?
    Bertram Jacobus: and i so often tell her : ya need gfs ! :o)
    Wol Euler listens to the echoing silence
    Agatha Macbeth: I don't have one myself...
    Bertram Jacobus: if not ("more profound") pls feel free to continue !
    Bertram Jacobus: as said before : i enjoy it so much
    Wol Euler: you could tell us about lojong, berti
    Agatha Macbeth: Is that tea?
    Wol Euler: heheh
    Bertram Jacobus: oohh - THAT is a very special, complex and big topic wol ! :-)
    Agatha Macbeth: It was a serious question :p
    Agatha Macbeth: So what is lojong?
    Agatha Macbeth: Don't say the opposite of hijong :p
    Bertram Jacobus: and no aggers : it´s a so to say "section" of trainings of tibetan buddhism i started to practice since a few days ...
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, great
    Agatha Macbeth: Pls tell us more
    Zon Kwan: hi
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Znk :)
        --BELL--
    Bertram Jacobus: it´s the first time that i started to engage myself in a so to say commitment for a longer period : one year i shall now practice these trainings / meditations / contemplations (!)
    Alfred Kelberry: hi girls :)
    Bertram Jacobus: hi zon and alf :-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Boxy!
    Alfred Kelberry: aga girl
    Wol Euler pulls boxy's tail
    Alfred Kelberry: good to see you after a short break
    Alfred Kelberry: *wiggles*
    Agatha Macbeth: Let us know how you get on with them Bert
    Bertram Jacobus: we started with around 10 people, got our first instructions, teachings and explanations over the last weekend ---
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Bertram Jacobus: i write on the pab site about it - that was wols suggestion ...
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Agatha Macbeth: Lojong (Wylie: blo sbyong) is a mind training practice in the Tibetan Buddhist tradition based on a set of aphorisms formulated in Tibet in the 12th century by Geshe Chekhawa. The practice involves refining and purifying one's motivations and attitudes.
    Alfred Kelberry: oh, committed berty
    Bertram Jacobus: yep
    Wol Euler applauds
    Agatha Macbeth: Can't beat a good aphorism
    Wol Euler: my hero.
    Bertram Jacobus: every day at least one hour practice
    Alfred Kelberry: wow
    Bertram Jacobus: a big challenge to me
    Alfred Kelberry: *pats berty's back*
    Alfred Kelberry: we believe in you :)
    Wol Euler: makes my inability to find 5 daily minutes for the 99 Days look pretty pathetic
    Agatha Macbeth: Has he swallowed something?
    Bertram Jacobus: because i´m really not good with continuity
    Alfred Kelberry: woly, indeed
    Wol Euler: :-P
    Agatha Macbeth hugs Wol
    Alfred Kelberry: *pokes woly*
    Agatha Macbeth: I'm alright with continuity, it's getting started that's the problem
    Bertram Jacobus: lets see - i only started this weekend ... hope, that i will be able to do it, regulary ...
    Alfred Kelberry: both is hard, aga
    Agatha Macbeth: Mmm
    Wol Euler: the 99 days may help you with that, berti. failing so publicly is an incentive to continue :)
    Bertram Jacobus: ah ! (aggers) - i think, a very big help for me is a wonderful teacher who offers and companies this
    Alfred Kelberry: yes, we'll be watching you, berty :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes, a good sensei always helps
    Bertram Jacobus: hehe - ty everybody ! :-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yay for berti!
    Bertram Jacobus: sensei - is that from japan, zen ?
    Agatha Macbeth: And satia too
    Alfred Kelberry: teacher in japanese
    Agatha Macbeth: Hai
    Alfred Kelberry: moshi moshi
    Bertram Jacobus: s a t i a take refuge that weekend - was REALLY nice
    Wol Euler: awwwww <3
    Agatha Macbeth: Refuge is always good
    Alfred Kelberry: wait, why each letter is spaced? :)
    Bertram Jacobus: sun came out while the ceremony and bells from a nearby church rang ... :-)
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Agatha Macbeth: Where was that?
    Bertram Jacobus: because, whe i write satia, a gesture takes place boxy :o)
    Wol Euler: that's a german habit, boxy :)
    Bertram Jacobus: oops - now there was no gesture ! ... hmmm
    Alfred Kelberry: lovely, berty. um, sorry, what was the ceremony?
    Bertram Jacobus: ··..•♥•··..☺ SaTiA ☺ ..··•♥•..··
    Wol Euler: before typesetting, when people wanted to emphasize something they would s p a c e the letters out
    Bertram Jacobus: *grin*
    Agatha Macbeth: Maybe you switched it off Bert
    Alfred Kelberry: geez
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    Wol Euler: typically used when first introducing a name (like in a scientific paper)
    Agatha Macbeth: InSATIAble
    Alfred Kelberry: i thought they typed in UPPSERCASE
    Agatha Macbeth: Cant beat UPSERCASE :D
    Wol Euler: perhaps but that was not common
    Bertram Jacobus: the so called "refuge" ceremony - a kind of serious beginning to walk on the buddhist path boxy
    Alfred Kelberry: ok, another indication of a 40+ :)
    Agatha Macbeth: You don't see many 40- here
    Alfred Kelberry: fair enough
    Wol Euler: 140 plus actually, last century
    Wol Euler: though it is still used in the depths of bureaucracies
    Agatha Macbeth: You are? [giggle]
    Wol Euler: the kind of places that call photographs "light images"
    Alfred Kelberry: well, double spacing is rare
    Wol Euler: in english nearly unknown
    Alfred Kelberry: thankfully
    Wol Euler: in german common
    Wol Euler: then
    Agatha Macbeth: Only after full stops for me
    Wol Euler shuts up.
    Alfred Kelberry: light images - i like it
    Agatha Macbeth: Why?
    Alfred Kelberry: um...
    Wol Euler is annoyed by her own pontificating
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: You aren't pont...wotsit
    Alfred Kelberry: du pont
    Agatha Macbeth: Just being informative
    Agatha Macbeth: which is something you excel at
    Alfred Kelberry: ah, new hair
    Alfred Kelberry: i think
    Agatha Macbeth: A Wollie classic
    Alfred Kelberry: nikita style
    Alfred Kelberry: but no gun
    Agatha Macbeth: Khrushchev?
    Alfred Kelberry: huh?
    Alfred Kelberry: oh... yea
    Agatha Macbeth: The man who banged tables
    Alfred Kelberry: stress makes a difference
    Wol Euler: with his assistant's shoe
    Wol Euler: famously
    Agatha Macbeth: Stress always makes a difference
    Bertram Jacobus: everything always makes a difference (?) ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth hums 'under pressure'
    Wol Euler: heh, true
    Wol Euler: and yes, boxy, new
    Alfred Kelberry: good song
        --BELL--
    Alfred Kelberry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-rkJmRiFug
    Agatha Macbeth: I read that as 'good snog' :)
    Wol Euler: can't imagine why
    Agatha Macbeth: Me either...
    Alfred Kelberry: i love the kind of connection freddie had with the audience
    Agatha Macbeth: Kruger?
    Bertram Jacobus: a genius ...
    Alfred Kelberry: must be so energetic. a meditation of its own.
    Agatha Macbeth: He was good with a chainsaw
    Bertram Jacobus: mercury ... (written correctly) ?
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    Agatha Macbeth: The messenger
    Alfred Kelberry: bulsara :)
    Bertram Jacobus: so charismatic
    Agatha Macbeth: Same to you
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: *licks woly's nosie*
    Agatha Macbeth: Isn't it the 20th anniversary soon?
    Wol Euler: of ...?
    Agatha Macbeth: FM's death
    Wol Euler: ah
    Wol Euler: google would know
    Alfred Kelberry: what? he died?
    Agatha Macbeth: well, not in SL
    Alfred Kelberry: you tell me elvis is dead too?
    Agatha Macbeth: a friend of mine saw him on stage not long back
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Aph

    Alfred Kelberry: aph :)
    Wol Euler: well done aggers, nov 24 1991
    Wol Euler: you are a star.

    Bertram Jacobus: hi aph :-)

    Alfred Kelberry: geez, so long ago
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi
    Alfred Kelberry: time sucks
    Wol Euler: boxy wasn't even born then :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: time sucks?
    Wol Euler: hello aph
    Agatha Macbeth: Ooh, three days away
    Alfred Kelberry: i was!
    Wol Euler: heheheheheh
    Aphrodite Macbain: forweard backward and sideways?
    Alfred Kelberry: :P
    Agatha Macbeth: I'm glad you mentioned that Alf
    Alfred Kelberry: what? the time thing?
    Agatha Macbeth: otherwise I would totally have forgotten
    Alfred Kelberry: oh
    Aphrodite Macbain: I read about your interesting visitor yesterday Wol
    Bertram Jacobus: why do you think that time sucks boxy - greeding for life ? ;-)
    Wol Euler smiles ruefully
    Alfred Kelberry: berty, that too :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: a true challenge of the first water
    Wol Euler: thank you for your supportive comment, aph, it was appreciated
    Bertram Jacobus: and what else boxy , pls ? :-)
    Alfred Kelberry: cause it passes too fast
    Alfred Kelberry: and we have so little of it
    Agatha Macbeth: Agreed Alf
    Aphrodite Macbain: Glad you read it. it made me realize how I can do that too
    Wol Euler: I really hate doing that, but he gave us no choice.
    Aphrodite Macbain: write away without paying attention to what others are saying
    Aphrodite Macbain: He had an axe to grind
    Alfred Kelberry: oh, you banned someone, woly?!
    Agatha Macbeth: What did he actually say then?
    Aphrodite Macbain: and really 
    Wol Euler: no, boxy, but it was close
    Aphrodite Macbain: wasn't that convincing
    Alfred Kelberry: gee, i miss all the fun sessions :/
    Wol Euler: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/Chat_Logs/2011/11/2011.11.20_13:00_-_Together_Holding_a_Song:_Of_Empathy_and_Mother_Bears
    Aphrodite Macbain: He yelled at the personn IN CAPITAL LETTERS!
    Agatha Macbeth: Doen't sound too funny to me :(
    Alfred Kelberry: must. read.
    Aphrodite Macbain: NOT FUNNY AT ALL
    Aphrodite Macbain: oops
    Wol Euler: it wasn't.
    Agatha Macbeth: i will look afterwards Wol, thx
    Wol Euler: yw
    Aphrodite Macbain: I see you're wearing protective headgear today Wol
    Alfred Kelberry: seeker?
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes
    Wol Euler: heheh
    Alfred Kelberry: aph, it's her new haircut
    Agatha Macbeth smiles
    Aphrodite Macbain: ah
    Bertram Jacobus: one of the lojong aphorisms deals with such, not only one even - i´ll search it. just a minute pls ...
    Aphrodite Macbain zooms in and waits for it to rezz

    At this point, we made several references to another guardian who was not present. After consulting with Wol, I thought it better to edit out their name....


    Alfred Kelberry: ****** :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: no not at all
    Agatha Macbeth: Where is ****** lately?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Oh red hair- nice
    Wol Euler knows but cannot tell :)
    Agatha Macbeth: I miss him
    Wol Euler giggles.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hmmm
    Alfred Kelberry: secrecy
    Aphrodite Macbain: wonders whether ****** has other avis
    Aphrodite Macbain: I am so tired of secrets
    Aphrodite Macbain: Makes me feel left out
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Wol Euler: aph, she wants to tell the group herself in her own time
    Aphrodite Macbain: OK
    Wol Euler: I know because she asked my advice on a technical matter
    Aphrodite Macbain: I know, I'm just feeling mopey
    Bertram Jacobus: "when i meet poeple with a difficult character, drawn by his bad karma, i will tarin my mind in loving such persons and take them as my best teachers" (not literally)
    Wol Euler: awwwww
    Alfred Kelberry: mopey :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Er...'she' who?
    Alfred Kelberry: ******
    Aphrodite Macbain: I liked the way everyone rallied together yesterday after that experience. it seemed to have brought you closer
    Agatha Macbeth: Thought ****** is male?
    Wol Euler nods to Bertram. Eliza said something pretty similar
    Wol Euler: um, sorry, yes. ****** is male. My mistake
        --BELL--
    Wol Euler slaps her own hand
    Aphrodite Macbain: right
    Agatha Macbeth: Ok, I'll shut up
    Aphrodite Macbain smiles at Bertram
    Bertram Jacobus: such persons really are regarded as very kind helpers - because otherwise we couldn´t develop loving kindness, patience and all the good qualities (!)
    Wol Euler chuckles.
    Bertram Jacobus: but it´s a training to develop such a view, such thoughts and such feelings towards such persons
    Aphrodite Macbain: the good old bengali teaboy- there to test us
    Wol Euler: right
    Bertram Jacobus: now i stop to pontificate - although far too late ...
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: just a nice observation Bertram
    Alfred Kelberry: ha!
    Alfred Kelberry: seeker is funny
    Wol Euler: seeker ... nah, skip it

    And now for something completely different...
    Aphrodite Macbain: I've finished making my piece for the Reflection-themed art as bing. I'm turning into a modernist- making oversized abstract sculptures
    Alfred Kelberry: tl;dr though
    Wol Euler: I can assure you that none of us was amused, boxy.
    Aphrodite Macbain: art as being
    Wol Euler: nice, aph
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Alfred Kelberry: oh, cool, aphie
    Alfred Kelberry: can you show it to us?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Lots of challenges- applying one skin over another
    Aphrodite Macbain: sure. I'll try
    Alfred Kelberry: erect the structure!  [ahem]

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    Agatha Macbeth: ty Aph
    Aphrodite Macbain: It is suppoed to reflect the dome
    Aphrodite Macbain: *supposed
    Alfred Kelberry: oh, very nice
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh, intersesting
    Agatha Macbeth: (can't spell that word)
    Bertram Jacobus: nice object ! ...
    Alfred Kelberry: great, aph!
    Aphrodite Macbain: hard to make something look reflective
    Alfred Kelberry: yes
    Agatha Macbeth mouselooks
    Aphrodite Macbain: I hope you appreciate the magical gap between them. separated by hidden tension
    Alfred Kelberry: aga :)
    Alfred Kelberry: "mouselooks" - i like it
    Wol Euler: of course!
    Aphrodite Macbain: wish it could reflect aggers!
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: aga is reflected in all the things beautiful
    Aphrodite Macbain: any suggestions for improvement? I ahve lots of time
    Agatha Macbeth: Looks like a mirror
    Aphrodite Macbain: *have
    Aphrodite Macbain: good!
    Aphrodite Macbain: It should look even more like a mirror when it's in the dome
    Agatha Macbeth: Hmm, very nice
    Alfred Kelberry: i'd give it an icy surface
    Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks!

    Wol decides to sit on it
    Agatha Macbeth: That looks painful Wol
    Aphrodite Macbain: I have, I have a separate pair of pyramids made of ice that I pull over them
    Wol Euler: it was, actually
    Alfred Kelberry: oh, great
    Agatha Macbeth: Erk
    Bertram Jacobus: some like it painful (tz) ...
    Aphrodite Macbain: but I dont know how to link them
    Wol Euler: hmmm
    Agatha Macbeth looks sideways at Bert
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Wol Euler: do you mean the SL building kind of linking, so that they hang together as one object?
    Agatha Macbeth: I see a 'ghost' behind it
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes , linking the icey surfaced shapes with the reflective surface shapes
    Alfred Kelberry: it's the icy cover
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes
    Agatha Macbeth: Aha
    Wol Euler: oh,yes in the bushes
    Aphrodite Macbain: But it is eaier to move together if they were linked
    Wol Euler: mmhmm
    Alfred Kelberry: you did link the 2 pyramids, aph. do the same with the cover.
    Wol Euler: so they *are* linked actually, as pairs, but the pairs are not linked to each other
    Wol Euler: best do to this in an sandbox I think
    Agatha Macbeth: Complex stuff
    Wol Euler: what I would do is to position them not by eye, but numically
    Wol Euler: on the "object" tab of the editing dialog
    Agatha Macbeth: Num...whatically?
    Alfred Kelberry: lift!
    Aphrodite Macbain: numerically?
    Alfred Kelberry: heave ho!
    Agatha Macbeth: She's not giving birth Alf!
    Wol Euler: set the X Y Z values to simple convenient whole numbers
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Wol Euler: then edit the other and set its position to the same numbers
    Aphrodite Macbain: too hard to do here
    Wol Euler: tehy will then be exactly centred together
    Aphrodite Macbain: I've never used the numbers, always worked by eye
    Wol Euler: no, easy to do
    Wol Euler: look at the edit dialog, go to the tab "object"
    Alfred Kelberry: copy paste them
    Aphrodite Macbain: that's why my things are a lille wu wei!
    Agatha Macbeth: Wol is an expert :)
    Wol Euler: no not copy paste, note
    Aphrodite Macbain: feel free to edit Wol.
    Wol Euler: right now X value is 67.1784
    Alfred Kelberry: why not, woly?
    Wol Euler: change that to 67
    Alfred Kelberry: copy paste is the fastest thing
    Wol Euler: Y value is 40.5271, change that to 40
    Aphrodite Macbain: I would be delighted. But then you need to link them so they are stuck together
    Agatha Macbeth looks on bewildered
    Aphrodite Macbain: (((Wol)))
        --BELL--
    Wol Euler: Z value is 105.5821, czhange that to 106
    Wol Euler: I can't change them for you aph, I don't have the rights to them
    Alfred Kelberry: aph, you can iterate through objects via a combination... which i forgot
    Wol Euler: boxy the reason you can't copy and paste is that all three values are separate
    Alfred Kelberry: yes, i mean, do it 3 times :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Oh I have changed all the permissions so anyone can modify. Sigh
    Agatha Macbeth: I could never play 3D chess either...
    Wol Euler: and you have to open prim1 to copy x, open prim 2 to paste x, open prim 1 to copy y, open prim2 to paste y ... that is far harder
    Aphrodite Macbain: exactly
    Wol Euler: oh wow, I can edit it!
    Alfred Kelberry: no! do it yourself, aph!
    Agatha Macbeth: Maybe Aph gave you permissions?
    Alfred Kelberry: yep
    Alfred Kelberry: scroll up :)
    Wol Euler: ah... their centres are not the same ...
    Agatha Macbeth: Eccentric...
    Aphrodite Macbain: where's the camera in SL 3
    Alfred Kelberry: alt+mouse
    Agatha Macbeth: Good question!
    Aphrodite Macbain: wish they'd stop changing the viewer
    Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
    Alfred Kelberry: it's been so since v1
    Wol Euler: hmmm, still not quite right
    Alfred Kelberry: yep
    Alfred Kelberry: aph's wu-wei style :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Well it neds to be tight against the inner surface
    Alfred Kelberry: my twitter box uses this technique
    Aphrodite Macbain: where the h is the camera?
    Wol Euler: um, careful, it needs a centimetre of space at least else the surfaces conflict and you get ugly moiree patterns

    (Who's Ugly Moiree?)
    Aphrodite Macbain: oh OK
    Aphrodite Macbain: a centimetre
    Alfred Kelberry: aph, hold alt + left click
    Alfred Kelberry: add ctrl and you can move up and down
    Aphrodite Macbain: Found it
    Bertram Jacobus: i´ll steal my self away silently - have fun ! ty ! may all beings be happy pls ... *wave*
    Wol Euler: funny, I can edit the linked set as a whole but not the individual prims
    Wol Euler: be bert
    Wol Euler: oh! meditation now at PP?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! Bertram
    Agatha Macbeth: May all Berts be happy :)
    Bertram Jacobus: noo - meditation was yesterday
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes Wol, a day late :(
    Wol Euler: I thought so but I got an IM about it when I logged on today
    Agatha Macbeth: Odd
    Agatha Macbeth: Lag maybe?
    Aphrodite Macbain: It looks kinda nice like that. As tho it were immersed in ice rather than with a skin of ice
    Alfred Kelberry: yep
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes, like a mirror in ice
    Wol Euler: yeah, just need to move the upper part of the outer pair down a little
    Aphrodite Macbain: Let's leave it that way. But they still need to be linked
    Wol Euler: so that it encloses the inner prism entirely
    Wol Euler: but I can't do that
    Aphrodite Macbain: Rats
    Aphrodite Macbain: then all your time has been wasted
    Alfred Kelberry: wuff!
    Wol Euler: dunno why, won't let me edit the individual components
    Aphrodite Macbain: Can I save the outer cover?
    Wol Euler: no, you can still link them like this
    Wol Euler: edit the inner one (you can grab the underside of the upper prism)
    Wol Euler: got it?
    Aphrodite Macbain: I have to go... Could you take what you've done and I'll get it from you later?
    Aphrodite Macbain: I cant concentrate right now
    Wol Euler: no, I can't take it
    Wol Euler: it's not mine
    Wol Euler: you have to take them
    Agatha Macbeth: Not copyable?
    Wol Euler: we can continue anohter day
    Aphrodite Macbain: OK thanks I'll fit them together at the dome
    Agatha Macbeth: This is something for the prim workshop maybe?
    Alfred Kelberry: aga :)
    Wol Euler: yes, that would be a good thing to learn there )
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes, we only just got started and then it was over. I spent over an hour with Bleu later. She helped me with the pyramid linking
    Alfred Kelberry: oh, well. off me goes.
    Wol Euler: bye boxy, take care
    Alfred Kelberry: thank you all for the nose interaction :)
    Agatha Macbeth: bye Alfie, behave yourself
    Aphrodite Macbain: me go too. Thanks for all your help Wol :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: and Boxy
    Wol Euler: my pleasure!
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye!
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye for now Aph, take care

    Wol Euler: I wish we'd got it sorted, but what cna you do :)
    Wol Euler: bye aph, take care
    Aphrodite Macbain: doctors appt
    Wol Euler: ah
    Wol Euler: well, good luck. break an infection!
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh, don't even mention those
    Aphrodite Macbain: lol
    Agatha Macbeth: You know, I was in hospital this time last year
    Wol Euler: yeah, I remember.
    Wol Euler: :(
    Agatha Macbeth: A year already, jeez
    Wol Euler: mmhmm
    Wol Euler: a year that you are still with us
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes
    Agatha Macbeth: That's something I guess
        --BELL--
    Agatha Macbeth: Tho to be honest I have felt fine since
    Wol Euler: good!
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye for now Wol, take care
    Wol Euler: bye aggers, sleep well
    Agatha Macbeth: :)

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