2011.11.13 08:00 - Guardian Session: Something Which Inspires Reflection

Present for this Guardian Session were: Alfred Kelberry : Aphrodite Macbain : Bleu Oleander : Bruce Mowbray : Eliza Madrigal : Eos Amaterasu : Wol Euler : Xirana Oximoxi : Yakuzza Lethecus : nanomilano Resident : stevenaia Michinaga

Bruce: Good morning, Eliza.
Bleu is Online
Eliza Madrigal waves
Bruce: Good morning, Bleu.
Bleu: good morning!
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bleu :)
Bruce: Good morning, Aph.
Bruce: Good morning, Xir.
Yaku: hey everyone
Xirana: Good morning Bruce and all :)
Bruce: Good afternoon, Yaku.
Bleu waves hi to all :)
boxy: wuff!
boxy: hi :)
boxy's nose: Yaku slowly strokes boxy's wet nose
Bruce: Good day, rectangular canine.
Aphrodite Macbain: morning all (or afternoon)
boxy's nose: Bleu licks boxy's nose
boxy: how nice to see you folks :) the yellow dots on my map :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Aphrodite, Xirana, Yakuzza, Boxy
boxy: oh my! eliza, you look stunning! :)
Eliza Madrigal: ty Boxy :)
boxy's nose: Eliza Madrigal slowly strokes boxy's wet nose
boxy's nose: Bruce licks boxy's nose
Bleu: as always :)
Eliza Madrigal: :) ty
 

boxy: oh, and aph - graceful outfit :)
boxy: this session must be special
Xirana: :)
boxy: even yaku put a suit on :)
Eliza Madrigal: yes we're all fancied up
Aphrodite Macbain smiles thank you
Sun is Online
Aphrodite Macbain: I was just chilly and needed a warm coat
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Aphrodite Macbain: sable is always nice...
Bleu: unless real sable :)
Eliza Madrigal: Morning Eos :)
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Eos
boxy: eos :)
Bleu: hi Eos
Bruce: Good morning, Eos.
Xirana: hello Eos:)
Yaku: hi eos
Eos Amaterasu: Hello beings!

boxy: *has an idea* it'd be nice to start a meeting with a gong
Eliza Madrigal: Did you bring a gong, Boxy?
Aphrodite Macbain: gonggggg
Bleu: :)
boxy: that circle on the wall reminds me of one
Eos Amaterasu: get it on, bang a gong
Eliza Madrigal: hah you beat me to that one Eos ))
boxy: is it from a song?
Eliza Madrigal nods a gong song
boxy: osibisa?
Eliza Madrigal: We can begin momentarily ... giving a few minutes for others to arrive
 

Eos Amaterasu: T Rex: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBin9qC5dKg
boxy: um, don't know this one
Bruce: Afternoon, Wol.
Bleu: hiya Wol
Wol Euler: hello everyone
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Wol :)
Xirana: hello Wol:)
boxy's nose: Wol Euler gently squeezes boxy's nose
boxy: ah, eliza sat closer to me *purrs*
Yaku: hi wol
boxy: woly girl :)
nanomilano: hi all
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Nano... we're having a guardians meeting but you're welcome to stay and listen. We are discussing behind the scenes matters mostly
Wol Euler raises an eyebrow.
nanomilano: thnx
Wol Euler: yep, these meetings are not for public
Aphrodite Macbain raises the other
nanomilano: ok
nanomilano: i will keep silence
Aphrodite Macbain: and then a glass
Eliza Madrigal moved in hopes of rezzing a 'gong' but it turned out to be a bit huge for purposes
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu: :) Aph
Bleu: hey steve
Wol Euler: hello steve
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Stevie :)
Bruce: Hey, Steve.
stevenaia Michinaga: waves
Xirana: hi steve:)
 

Eliza Madrigal: OK Shall we begin? (cue boxy)
Eliza Madrigal waits for boxy gong :)
stevenaia Michinaga: we shall always begin with cute boxy
Aphrodite Macbain: woof
Eliza Madrigal: heheh....
Eliza Madrigal: OK :)
Bleu: boxy .... do something hehe
Eliza Madrigal: First I'd like to thank Aggers for hosting and posting last week's session
Aphrodite Macbain: so what's on the agenda?
Aphrodite Macbain: yes, thanks aggers
Eliza Madrigal: From my reading it seemed the Ireland and Spain were two hot spots, but the conversation is best moved to emails at this point

Aphrodite Macbain: yes everyone who proposed a place was to get more details on it - like the costs of rooms

Eos Amaterasu: oh, you're not talking about financial meltdowns!
Xirana: ok... I will send the information about places I know :)
Aphrodite Macbain: so we have a means of comparison
Eliza Madrigal: :) Eos
Eliza Madrigal: So I will send out an email this week and we can try to clarify the discussion. It may be that smaller gatherings may be a better focus.
Eliza Madrigal: 'meet ups'
Eliza Madrigal: but let's see

Eos Amaterasu: then we take Berlin....
Eliza Madrigal: :))

Aphrodite Macbain: It was useful that SSan had pulled together all the proposals into one document
boxy: meet ups. yes, please.
Eliza Madrigal: indeed
Aphrodite Macbain: It would be nice if we had more information on each
stevenaia Michinaga: PaB meet-up...likes. that Being swap meets
Eliza Madrigal grins

Aphrodite Macbain: what would be the purpose of the meet ups?
Eliza Madrigal: interbeing meets
Eliza Madrigal: fellowship
Bleu: party
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu: sorry
Aphrodite Macbain: hmmm
Eliza Madrigal: looking into eyes
stevenaia Michinaga: same as our daily meetings w/ focus (and party)
Wol Euler: hugs
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu: face time
Eliza Madrigal smiling widely
boxy: who will decide on the location of the spring retreat?
Wol Euler: we will, boxy
Eos Amaterasu: "the spring retreat"?

Eliza Madrigal: my impression was that it would be Summer?
Wol Euler: um, true
Wol Euler: that was also mine
boxy: oh

Bleu: so is there a distinction between meetups and retreats?
Aphrodite Macbain: one RL retreat a year>
boxy: yes!
stevenaia Michinaga: duration
boxy: meet up != retreat
Aphrodite Macbain: oh...
boxy: casual gathering
Aphrodite Macbain: in RL or SL?
boxy: rl
Aphrodite Macbain: nicely done Bruce
Bleu: nice Bruce :)
Bleu: snap

Eliza Madrigal: If there is interest enough, then it would be nice to continue to hold a [added: once a year] retreat perhaps, for a week... that is what we must narrow down in emails
boxy: and it's local, too
Bruce: (exercise)
Aphrodite Macbain: I can't afford to go to anothr country for a one day meeting
Wol Euler: and shorter

Wol Euler: retreat = week, meetup = weekend

Yaku wonders about a silent quater of an hour on a meet up *giggle*
Wol Euler: (simply stated)
Eliza Madrigal: ty Wol
Aphrodite Macbain: expensive weekend!
Eos Amaterasu: it it's local it shouldn't be too expensive
Xirana: yes Aph... we stay a week :))

Wol Euler: that#s why they would be (a) lots and (b) local, aph
boxy: yes, but not necessarily, woly
boxy: pra and i stay longer

Wol Euler: the assumpton was that people who might not cross an ocean for a retreat, might well cross a state border for a weekend
Eos Amaterasu: short RL Play as Being get togethers, with small groups, many times

Aphrodite Macbain: I hope this wont replace the larger ones where we get to connect with people from other parts of the universe
Eos Amaterasu looks askance at Aph
Wol Euler: no, quite separate, there will still be at least one of those per year
Eliza Madrigal: meet ups provide for infinite spontaneous variations
boxy: mmm, like that

Aphrodite Macbain: hmmm wonder about the organization of such meetups
Aphrodite Macbain tries hard to be realistic
Eliza Madrigal: well we look forward to the post-Berlin reports ! :)
boxy: they're spontaneous as well :)
Wol Euler wonders what exactly you wonder about it

Eos Amaterasu: I would say go for a "pull" model: someone who is inspired to organize a local meet up goes for it, pulling others in
stevenaia Michinaga: perhaps exploations on weekends can be focused in greater depth my those attending the longer week retreats later
Aphrodite Macbain: wonder if it's do-able considering how busy we already are
Eliza Madrigal: Pull Model, interesting
Wol Euler: I would guess that those who can't do it, won't do it :)
Aphrodite Macbain nods

Eos Amaterasu: even a doggy can pull together a meetup :-)
boxy: eos, yes, that's sort of what's happening with the berlin meet up
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Aphrodite Macbain: well I'm all for it if it works
boxy: woly is pulling things :)
Bleu notices her dogs ears perk up
Eliza Madrigal: a weekend can be very satisfying
Eliza Madrigal: and take some pressure off
Wol Euler nods.
Eliza Madrigal: So, we'll see how it wants to evolve :))
Aphrodite Macbain: pressure?
Wol Euler: (to eliza, not to boxy. Boxy is organizing Berlin, not me)
 

Eliza Madrigal: There are a few other topics today....

Aphrodite Macbain: ah - the laisser faire approach
boxy: what? i thought you did
Wol Euler sighs.
Eliza Madrigal giggles
Xirana: hehe
boxy: :)
Eos Amaterasu grins
boxy's nose: Wol Euler softly kisses boxy's nose
Aphrodite Macbain wishes she tould TP to Berlin
Aphrodite Macbain: could
boxy: aph, it may be longer than a weekend
boxy: just for the record
Bleu: you can Aph :)
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Eliza Madrigal: the format emerging from something like that could be a smaller group there longer, with a larger group just the weekend, etc
Aphrodite Macbain: Is there a berlin site?
boxy: snowy christmas berlin :)
Bleu: yes
Aphrodite Macbain makes a note to look for it
boxy: aph, not in a retreat sense
Aphrodite Macbain sighs I know
Aphrodite Macbain: thanks Bleu
Bleu: yw!
boxy: people stay in hotels. may not be the same hotel.
Aphrodite Macbain: will there be a theme to the Berlin retreat?
boxy: no

boxy: it's not a retreat, aph
Eliza Madrigal: seeing what it wants to be
boxy: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: hello nanomilano

Eliza Madrigal: Wanted also to express appreciation to the working group, for cleaning up some wiki pages (in cute and boxy way), and for taking the time to go over some phrasings to help clarify a few things

Aphrodite Macbain: to the Berlin meet up then
boxy: but we sure can come up with a theme or whatnot :)
Aphrodite Macbain: It's a great group

Eliza Madrigal: When the group has fun it reflects everywhere
Eliza Madrigal: which leads to next topic ... Art of Being :)

boxy: i think nano is trapped
Aphrodite Macbain looks at Boxy's, Bruce's and Stevenaia's shining faces
Bleu: thanks Eliza :)

Bleu: ice sculptures?
Eliza Madrigal: Would you like to say a few words Bleu?
boxy: :)
Bleu: yes thanks
Bleu: Storm will transform the dome into an ice palace
Bleu: complete with skates
boxy: free skates? correct?
Bleu: and bases for our sculptures
Bleu: yes boxy
boxy: ok
Bleu: sculptures need to be icy

Aphrodite Macbain: and someone will give a workshop on how to sculpt ice
Bleu: and 3m x 3m x 4m max size
Xirana: brb
Aphrodite Macbain: I stilll have no idea how to make a 3D ice sculpture
Eliza Madrigal noticed some growing in the pavilion already
Bleu: put an ice texture on your sculpture
Bruce: me neither, Aph, except as a poster.
Aphrodite Macbain: It's not the texture that's the problem it's the sculpture itself Bleu
boxy: aph, you did well with your sculpture at the pavilion
Aphrodite Macbain: what sculpture?

Eliza Madrigal: Bleu can you say more about the topic 'reflection'?
Eos Amaterasu: icycle growing out of the pond
Bleu: the theme is reflection
boxy: aph, a little twisted tower
Bleu: interpret however you want
Eliza Madrigal: hahah
Aphrodite Macbain: Bleu doesn't know how to work with sculpties, nor does Boxy...
Bleu: don't need sculpties
Bleu: reg prims fine

stevenaia Michinaga: prim? sculpies? what's the difference?
Wol Euler: just builld something and say "this is ice"
Aphrodite Macbain: you means cubes and pyramids and cylinders?
Bleu: :) Wol
Bleu: yes Aph
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: It's the building that's the challenge Wol
Bleu: just like we did our past Art of Being sculptures
Aphrodite Macbain: I just used a cube and decorated it
Eliza Madrigal looks for Aggers to remind us that ' Keep It Simple Sweetheart ' is always an option
Aphrodite Macbain: decorated.
Aphrodite Macbain: That's not sculpture

Bruce: Is there ANY 3D format (DXF, OBJ, etc.) that can be imported into SL?
Bleu: so boxy and I will do a prim workshop, right boxy?
Wol Euler: only sculpties, mesh and avatar body shapes, so "no"
stevenaia Michinaga: I don;t think so, Bruce

boxy: btw, i've placed an ice tower that i built at the impromptu prim workshop at the dome entrance (without storm's permission which is pending)
Aphrodite Macbain: For instance, If i wanted to sculpt an ice skater, I wouldn't know how to start
Bruce: OK, I was afraid of that. ty.
boxy: bleu, sure
Bleu: pick something simpler Aph

Wol Euler: it's more about doing than about achieving perfection
Bleu: something that inspires reflection

Aphrodite Macbain: like a cube or a pyramid or a column
Aphrodite Macbain: Hmmm
Eliza Madrigal: can always set a few dates for small gatherings in the dome to brainstorm and help one another
Wol Euler nods.
Bleu: or combine them Aph
boxy: we need storm for the prim session
Eliza Madrigal: The exhibit date is December 11, Bleu?
boxy: this is the guy who knows how to build
Aphrodite Macbain: so perhaps it will be an abstract arrangement of ice coloured shapes
Bleu: yes Dec 11 at noon slt
Eliza Madrigal: could be, sure :)
Bleu: sculptures can start being placed Dec 1

stevenaia Michinaga: I move we volunteer Storm!
Wol Euler: sure, aph
Aphrodite Macbain: Any one have a texture for a mirror?
Bleu: so the session will be skating, conversation and reflections
Bruce: That sort of reflection is not possible in SL, Aph.
Xirana: can the sculpture have an animation with a script?
Aphrodite Macbain: I know bruce- I was just wondering if there was an approximation
Bruce: unless you import an an image that you've made in abother program. (which is what I intend to do).
Aphrodite Macbain: You're good at this bruce
Xirana: I think I will also do, Bruce...

Bleu: so we can schedule a workshop this week maybe?
Aphrodite Macbain: Xirana - yes I'm sur ei it can
Xirana: ok, ty :)
Aphrodite Macbain: That would be useful Bleu
Wol Euler: um, may I respectfully suggest that we move on? It should not be the point of this session to duplicate what will be said at the how-to-build workshop
Bleu: ok done
Wol Euler: we are getting into too much detail, I feel
stevenaia Michinaga: I must go, bye all
Xirana: bye steve:)
Wol Euler: bye steve, take care
Bleu: bye steve
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Stevie, pleasant day
Aphrodite Macbain: Yes you're right Wol - I just wanted to raise issues that may be resolved here
Bleu gives up the floor

Eliza Madrigal: Thanks... the thing about Art of Being is it gives a chance for the village to come alive as a spot for people to brainstorm and help one another
Wol Euler nods.
Bleu: yes!
Eliza Madrigal: so can't figure it all out in a day perhaps
Eliza Madrigal: :)

Xirana: is there a place to come here and try to build something?
Aphrodite Macbain: there are other places in SL
Aphrodite Macbain: sand boxes
Wol Euler nods.
Eliza Madrigal: Sure... Xirana, one can build anywhere in the village, and also if you want to have a spot and don't, please choose one
Xirana: ok, ty i KNOW:) JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF YOU COME HERE TO DO IT:)
Bleu: Ivory Tower of Primatives
Xirana: ui, sorry
Bleu: great place to learn to build

boxy: prim workshop has a designated spot
Eliza Madrigal: ah, true... do you have that LM Boxy?
Aphrodite Macbain: yes just above my place
Bleu: what's the link boxy?
Bruce: yes, the prim workshop is between Aph's and my plots - - up in the air.
Eliza Madrigal: :) thinks Boxy went to fetch one
Bleu: :)
Xirana: :)
boxy: gah
boxy: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlif...eup/245/243/99
boxy: there
Eliza Madrigal: TY Boxy :))
Xirana: thanks boxy:)
Bleu: thx boxy
Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks Boxy
boxy: tp'ed by accident :)
Bleu: so we can have a workshop there this week
Aphrodite Macbain: Glad it's still there
Eliza Madrigal: excellent
Bruce listens for date/time.
Bleu: with a field trip to the Ivory Tower?
boxy: sat 8am?
Aphrodite Macbain: Shall we ask storm to join us?
boxy: yes
Bruce: That works for moi, Boxy.
Bleu: good for me too
Eliza Madrigal: Sat may be difficult for Storm...
Aphrodite Macbain: dfine with me
Aphrodite Macbain: right
Wol Euler: well, see what happens.
Aphrodite Macbain: maybe Friday?
boxy: ok
Eliza Madrigal: good to talk Storm first then notify, if you'd like for him to participate
Aphrodite Macbain whispers: Friday 8AM?
boxy's nose: Wol Euler pokes boxy's nose
Sun is Offline
boxy: woly can make at this time too
boxy: yes
Wol Euler: on friday? no
Wol Euler: middle of the working afternoon
boxy: ah
Aphrodite Macbain: how about 10AM?
boxy: ok
Aphrodite Macbain: wol?
Bruce: on Saturday -- 10 a.m.????
boxy: fri
Wol Euler smiles and shakes her head. There is no time that will suit everyone, there just *isn't* Choose a time and stick to it
Aphrodite Macbain: Friday 10AM
Xirana: I agree Wol :))
Eliza Madrigal: :)
boxy: woly, but if you're left out who is goign to chisel ice cubes for us?

Aphrodite Macbain: It is important that Storm be there I think
Bruce: So, on Saturday at 8 a.m. ????
boxy: yes, aph
Wol Euler: then we should start by asking him when he is free
Bleu: :)
boxy: i'll ask him
Aphrodite Macbain: He rarely participates on weekends
Bleu: so a weekday then
Aphrodite Macbain: that's why I suggested friday at 10AM
Bleu: maybe right after his session on thurs?
Bruce: ] boxy (alfred.kelberry): sat 8am?
boxy: ok, i'll ask when he's available and then get back to you
Bleu: ty boxy
Aphrodite Macbain: ok

boxy: next!

Eliza Madrigal: Before the hr is over... I have a last topic for today ... wondering if the Vashon Island suggestions might go through the working group first before these sessions...
Bruce: OK -- good plan, Boxy.
Eliza Madrigal: and if that would be OK with everyone
Wol Euler: agreed
Bleu: sounds good
Aphrodite Macbain: Yes. they have been Eliza. Slowly, one by one
boxy: very slowly, i should add
Eliza Madrigal: these sessions make good spots to plan theme sessions and visioneer a bit... don't want to lose that

Bruce: Two have already been accepted by the WG.
boxy's nose: Bleu gently squeezes boxy's nose
Eliza Madrigal: Might you elaborate on accepted changes?
Aphrodite Macbain: there is still part of the original proposal that has to come back here but we dont have time to discuss it
Aphrodite Macbain: They were all sent out Eliza
Bruce: Aph has posted the WG minutes already. . .
Bruce: (I think).

Wol Euler: FYI: [08:49:31] Wol Euler: hello storm, there's a move afoot to have a workshop or two on ice sculpturing (prims and textures) for the next Art of Being. Your participation would be highly treasured. Do you have time/interest, and when are you free?

Aphrodite Macbain: check the minutes in the wiki - I went out the link
Xirana: yes, I've read it:)
Aphrodite Macbain: send out the link
Eliza Madrigal: OK, great, happy to hear people are reading the minutes!
Xirana: :)
Bruce: ;-)
Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks Xirana
boxy: thank you, woly :)
Xirana: yw:)
Eliza Madrigal: often it is good to come at things from a few angles to keep eveyone on board as much as possible
Wol Euler: yw

Aphrodite Macbain: do you have another suggestion for how to send out the minutes Eliza?
Aphrodite Macbain: the link takes people straight to them
Eliza Madrigal: Notifying everyone of the minutes in email is just right Aphrodite... perhaps with a note regarding anything significant that was changed or decided upon
Wol Euler nods.
Eliza Madrigal: often without that people will save the email to later and forget
Aphrodite Macbain: one can do so much...
Eliza Madrigal: yes indeed

Eos Amaterasu: (sry, must go, bye all)
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Eos :)
Wol Euler: bye eos, take care
Bleu: need to go too
Aphrodite Macbain: I must go to.
Bleu: take care everyone :)
Xirana: bye Eos, Bleu
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks everyone
Wol Euler: bye aph, enjoy the weekend
Wol Euler: bye bleu, take care
Xirana: bye Aph
Bleu: boxy let me know when the workshop is
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye!
Bleu: bye bye

Eliza Madrigal: OK. I will send an email out regarding retreats... would still be a good idea to have a go-to person for feedback regarding how many would participate in a one week summer retreat
Bruce: I'm off to Quack. . .
Eliza Madrigal: so will email with Santoshima first
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks Bruce, enjoy :)
Bruce: Have a great Sunday, everyone.
Wol Euler: bye bruce, enjoy the grapes
Eliza Madrigal: And with Eos
Yaku: bye bruce
boxy's nose: Wol Euler slowly strokes boxy's wet nose

Eliza Madrigal: Sounded like many liked the idea of a Spain meet-up Xirana
Xirana: bye bye all... have a nice day:) I also go now !
Wol Euler: bye xir, take care
Eliza Madrigal: but the 2 hour bus trip would be an obstacle for a small group maybe
Xirana: ahhh it would be very nice if you come to Spain... but I must look carefully the place:)
Eliza Madrigal: OK :)
boxy: woly prefers 5 stars
Eliza Madrigal: thanks for grabbing the Sat morning session, too
Wol Euler: :-PPPPP
Xirana: I will see if I find another place easier to go:)
Eliza Madrigal: heheh
boxy: :)
Eliza Madrigal: Great Xirana :))
boxy: yaku and i can bunk in a hostel
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Yaku: :)
Xirana: ok... I will see if there are the 2 possibilities in the near:)
Eliza Madrigal: I'm more rugged than I appear here in this gown...
Eliza Madrigal: hahah
Wol Euler: I bunked in hostels too when I was your age. Kids today got no respect.
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks Xirana, then email to Santoshima :)
Xirana: bye bye and see you soon :)
Eliza Madrigal: Bye for now
Xirana: yes I will do:)
boxy: why did you stop, woly?
Wol Euler: why did I stop being your age? because I didn't die young
Yaku: bye xirana
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: OK, time for me to go as well
Eliza Madrigal: Enjoy the day everyone :)
Yaku: bye liz

Wol Euler: bye eliza, thanks for running the meeting
Wol Euler: take care, enjoy your sunday
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks Wol for running the meeting, :))
Wol Euler: ha
boxy: what's with the age, woly?
Wol Euler: I just nudged it a litle.

Eliza Madrigal: ((((((Everyone))))))))
boxy: you act a certain way when you hit a certain number?
Wol Euler sighs
Eliza Madrigal: timely nudges... like life itself nudges us along the way as we age
Eliza Madrigal: ;-)