2011.11.11 01:00 - Reaching your lifetime goals

Wol Euler was guardian for this session.

Alfred Kelberry: a-ha!
Alfred Kelberry: there you are, the hooves girl :)
Wol Euler smiles.
Alfred Kelberry: seeping coffee and reading zeitung before work?
Wol Euler: no zeitung, but coffee yes
Wol Euler: *sipping :)
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Alfred Kelberry: i wonder how zeitungs survive these days

--BELL--

Wol Euler: barely
Wol Euler: many don't
Alfred Kelberry: um
Alfred Kelberry: yaku and evi will have a long hours drive
Wol Euler nods.
Alfred Kelberry: you'll come by train?
Wol Euler: I will
Wol Euler: 5.5 to 6.5 hours
Alfred Kelberry: oh, there must be a db app on android
Wol Euler: there's certainly one on iPhone
Wol Euler: it seems ther is only one for iPhone ...
Alfred Kelberry: yes! db navigator
Alfred Kelberry: installing...
Wol Euler: huh, interesting :) the bahn itself doesn't know that :)
Alfred Kelberry: how come?
Wol Euler shrugs
Alfred Kelberry: it looks official
Wol Euler: made by a third party?
Wol Euler: website is outdated?
Wol Euler: more likely bureaucratic incompetence than corporate malice
Wol Euler: probably the people who make apps are not allowed to edit the website, but nobody has officially instructed the website-makers to include the app
Alfred Kelberry: heh, yea
Alfred Kelberry: very common
Alfred Kelberry: a bunch of papers have to be wasted for this to happen
Wol Euler: yep
Alfred Kelberry: larry page is trying to get rid of bureaucracy within google
Alfred Kelberry: he says their biggest enemy is google itself :)
Alfred Kelberry: which is true
Wol Euler: it's probably true of all companies
Wol Euler: except those run by an autocratic genius like Jobs
Alfred Kelberry: um, yea, which is what larry page wants to be :)
Wol Euler: and even there it's only true because he forces the pace always
Alfred Kelberry: google does lose momentum and touch with the users. something has to be done.
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Alfred Kelberry: the other day i went to youtube and it suggested me to register a channel by the name which i don't use in any of google related services. that was weird.
Alfred Kelberry: how did they know
Wol Euler: suspicious
Wol Euler: they are reading your g-mail conversations
Wol Euler: (fact, admitted)
Alfred Kelberry: well, yea. in this respect they do know everything. almost :)
Alfred Kelberry: rather disturbing
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Wol Euler: they've come a long way since "do no evil"

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Alfred Kelberry: although, i tend to trust google. the attitude which is rapidly fading.
Alfred Kelberry: heh
Alfred Kelberry: i think when you're that big, it's hard not to rub elbows with government.
Wol Euler: especially when governments seeek you out, as the Chinese did
Alfred Kelberry: and as they say, fbi has a file on everyone :)
Wol Euler: oh, the fbi, who worries about them now :)
Alfred Kelberry: well, whatever 3 letter acronym that is :)
Alfred Kelberry: they could undermine google's position in case they do not collaborate
Wol Euler: (they still exist, but really: if you aren't an active terrorist, corporations are a far greater risk to your health and wealth and freedom)
Alfred Kelberry: um, fair enough
Alfred Kelberry: my point is that a company of a certain size seize to be trusted
Wol Euler: "needs"?
Alfred Kelberry: btw, interesting note. jobs wasn't much of a philanthropist, if at all. unlike gates.
Alfred Kelberry: um, can't be trusted when it's sufficiently large
Wol Euler: ah, ok; trying to understand "seize" in that sentence
Wol Euler: *ceases
Alfred Kelberry: gah
Alfred Kelberry: i'm good this morning
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: your english is so much better tahn my russian :) no worries
Alfred Kelberry: well
Wol Euler: btw how will you get to Berlin?
Alfred Kelberry: isn't really comforting. but thank you :)
Alfred Kelberry: air berlin
Wol Euler: appropriate :)
Alfred Kelberry: heh
Wol Euler: 90 minutes or so?
Alfred Kelberry: 2:30
Wol Euler: oh, I'm surprised
Alfred Kelberry: woly's geography :)
Wol Euler: heh
Wol Euler: yeah, probably
Alfred Kelberry: or let's say it flies very slow :)
Wol Euler: that's more like it :)
Alfred Kelberry: a bit nervous flying in winter
Alfred Kelberry: icing and all
Wol Euler nods.
Wol Euler: though there is relatively little water vapour at 10k metres
Alfred Kelberry: air berlin has a flawless record so far :)
Wol Euler: it's a new airline :)
Wol Euler grins.
Alfred Kelberry: yea
Alfred Kelberry: best european low cost of 2010, btw
Wol Euler smiles.
Alfred Kelberry: i did some research :)
Alfred Kelberry: they also serve yummy gourmet meals for 10 euros
Wol Euler: wow
Alfred Kelberry: which i can't resist :)
Wol Euler: lufthansa food is pretty good, but I don't think anyone on earth would describe them as "gourmet"
Alfred Kelberry: are you on the miles program with them?
Wol Euler: yep
Alfred Kelberry: neat

--BELL--

Alfred Kelberry: you could probably fly to berlin for free :)
Wol Euler: a founding member :) since the late eighties
Alfred Kelberry: wow
Alfred Kelberry: golden card? :)
Wol Euler is older than she looks
Wol Euler: no, I don't fly often enough for that
Alfred Kelberry: lies!
Wol Euler: but I fly at least one long-haul, often two, per year
Wol Euler: so my mileage is pretty good
Alfred Kelberry: *remembers a scene in an airplane from that cloony's movie*
Wol Euler: *has no idea*
Alfred Kelberry: neat
Wol Euler: oh, in 45 minutes it'll be 11:11 11.11.11
Alfred Kelberry: yay...
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Wol Euler is easily amused.
Alfred Kelberry: not into numerology
Alfred Kelberry: pythagoras would appreciate though
Wol Euler: I bet that twitter will have a rough day today :)
Wol Euler: every hour, as it turns 11:11 in the world's timezones, there will be a deluge of tweets from numerologists
Alfred Kelberry: ah, yea
Alfred Kelberry: i hope no one will kill themselves
Wol Euler: O.O
Wol Euler: um, yes
Alfred Kelberry: there are those armageddon folks
Alfred Kelberry: ah, numbers are big in china (and asia in general, i assume)
Alfred Kelberry: so this will be a sure hit there
Alfred Kelberry: weddings, deals, big events
Wol Euler nods.
Alfred Kelberry: ok, the only one i've found: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzrBW0dKHAM
Alfred Kelberry: re: the miles
Alfred Kelberry: first 2 minutes
Alfred Kelberry: a question of what happens when you finally reach your lifetime goal
Alfred Kelberry: is it something you really wanted?
Wol Euler nods.
Alfred Kelberry: *clicks woly's nose*
Wol Euler: sorry, watching the video
Wol Euler: looks like a good film, I missed it
Alfred Kelberry: oh, no no. keep watching :)
Alfred Kelberry: yea, i stumbled on it by accident
Alfred Kelberry: it was good

--BELL--

Wol Euler: wow, I think I have to see this film.
Alfred Kelberry: heh
Alfred Kelberry: you basically just did :)
Alfred Kelberry: it's the end
Wol Euler: wow
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Wol Euler: yep, definitely have to see that
Alfred Kelberry: glad you liked it :)
Wol Euler: thank you
Alfred Kelberry: a nice song at the end :)
Alfred Kelberry: um, what was that? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPV6Z1dEAkg
Wol Euler: heh
Alfred Kelberry: what did the guy say?
Wol Euler: "we've got a boat"
Alfred Kelberry: looked like a sketch
Wol Euler: which I assume means they are going to move to party to a cruise ship
Alfred Kelberry: ah

--BELL--

Wol Euler: ten minutes :)
Alfred Kelberry: huh?
Wol Euler: 11:01 11.11.11
Alfred Kelberry: oh
Alfred Kelberry: yay...
Wol Euler laughs.
Alfred Kelberry: :P
Wol Euler: yes, I can see how deeply this moves you.
Alfred Kelberry: when is there snow in stuttgart?
Wol Euler: only in the dephts of winter, late december to mid january
Wol Euler: because it's in a deep dense valley
Wol Euler: so waste heat from the buildings gets trapped
Alfred Kelberry: oh
Alfred Kelberry: elaborate knowledge of the local relief :)
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Wol Euler: snowfall in German weather reports is indicated not by region,but by altitude :)
Wol Euler: they don't say "snow in Bavaria" but "snow above 700m"
Alfred Kelberry: ah
Wol Euler: there has already been snow here at the 800m level
Alfred Kelberry: it's so cool to learn those tiny things that make a big difference
Wol Euler smiles.
Alfred Kelberry: i know some cities where the street name means nothing to the locals. they instead use historically formed internal numbering.
Wol Euler: huh
Alfred Kelberry: ok, i booked yaku and eli
Wol Euler: yay
Alfred Kelberry: same place
Wol Euler: good
Wol Euler: hope it#s a big apartment :)
Alfred Kelberry: heh
Alfred Kelberry: not a 5 star, i can tell you that :)
Wol Euler: as long as there are private bedrooms and enough bathrooms, that's fine
Alfred Kelberry: oh, you're in different rooms. i mean same hotel.
Wol Euler: good :)
Alfred Kelberry: and i'm waiting for para
Alfred Kelberry: if she's ok with a non-5 star arrangement :)
Alfred Kelberry: she's staying for a week
Wol Euler: good :)

--BELL--

Wol Euler: okay, off to work. Bye boxy, take care