The Guardian for this meeting was Yakuzza Lethecus. The comments are by Yakuzza Lethecus.

Bleu Oleander: hey Wol :)
Wol Euler: hello eliza, bleu, boxy
Wol Euler: happy friday
Alfred Kelberry: woly girl! :)
Eliza Madrigal: wow amazing aim I have today :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Wol, Happy Friday!
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Wol Euler: yaku
Eliza Madrigal: And Hi again Boxy, Yaku and Bleu
Alfred Kelberry: thank you, yaku. it was a lovely session.
Bleu Oleander: yes, thanks Yaku
Yakuzza Lethecus: onigokko
Eliza Madrigal: a treat and milestone, thanks Ya
Bleu Oleander: haha
Alfred Kelberry: crazy people :)
Wol Euler: heheheh
Bleu Oleander: caught w/o my onigokko :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: stop
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Eliza Madrigal: me too, sigh :)
Wol Euler grins.
Wol Euler: always be prepared :)
Wol Euler: especially on friday
Bleu Oleander: was not a girlscout :)
Wol Euler: well, I skipped the whole scouting experience too.
Bleu Oleander: :)
Eliza Madrigal: hesitates to admit she was indeed a girlscout and always wore the right socks
Wol Euler: preparation is just my natural caution and pedantry, I guess
Darren Islar: hi all
Alfred Kelberry: i was scouting a bit
Bleu Oleander: very impressed Eliza
Alfred Kelberry: it was fun
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Leapin :)) Ltns
Wol Euler: hello darren, long time no see. Nice look.
Eliza Madrigal: *g
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey darran :)
Alfred Kelberry: darren :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: long time :)
Bleu Oleander: hi darren
Darren Islar: thanks Wol :)
Wol Euler is full of weekend cheer.
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Bleu Oleander: :)
Wol Euler: hello santo
Yakuzza Lethecus: hi san
Bleu Oleander: hi san
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Santoshima
Darren Islar: hi Santos :)
Santoshima Resident: hi everyone
Santoshima Resident: checking the signage
Alfred Kelberry: woly! i know part of it (re: cheering) is the fact that in a 2 weeks time there will be the meet up! :)
Darren Islar: I'm glad to see you're nuts Wol :)
Wol Euler: heheh
Alfred Kelberry: san :)
Alfred Kelberry: me likes woly's boots
Eliza Madrigal zooms
Wol Euler grins.
Alfred Kelberry: haha
Bleu Oleander: would look good on you boxy
Alfred Kelberry: everyone zoom! :)
Eliza Madrigal: wow
Santoshima Resident: ak
Alfred Kelberry: um, too big :)
Wol Euler: spiky :)
Eliza Madrigal tucks in toes
Santoshima Resident: i mean WOW!
Alfred Kelberry: testing?
Alfred Kelberry: not working?
Santoshima Resident: you could spearfish with those
Wol Euler: just adjusting the listener, never mind.
Eliza Madrigal: hahah
Alfred Kelberry: ah
Wol Euler: pay no attention to the avatar behind the curtain
Eliza Madrigal: the 6 am session didn't come to me though I recorded and claimed, but the 7a was fine
Alfred Kelberry: *looks*
Eliza Madrigal: *am
Wol Euler: hmmm
Alfred Kelberry: i see no curtain avs
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Wol Euler: 6am today?
Eliza Madrigal: Maxine's Regarding Reality session
Bleu Oleander: how is that session?
Bleu Oleander: too early for me
Wol Euler: was that here?
Eliza Madrigal: I think it is fantastic
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Bleu Oleander makes note to read the log
Wol Euler: um, it was not recorded, there is no 6am in the database
Eliza Madrigal: I've been gathering the sessions onto one page
Eliza Madrigal: let me get the link, though I haven't added today's yet
Santoshima Resident: does it take place here at the pavilion?
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Bleu Oleander: how long will it continue?
Wol Euler: this is a little bit worrying. I got a notice when I logged on that the listener had been restarted
Eliza Madrigal: It will take a break next week but I think will go on for a while yet
Eliza Madrigal: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/PaB_Books/Regarding_Reality/Sessions%3a_Regarding_Reality
Bleu Oleander: ty :)
Santoshima Resident: thanks, eliza
Wol Euler: wow, I hadn't heard of that.
Eliza Madrigal: these are the sessions but Maxine's intro is well worth reading: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/PaB_Books/Regarding_Reality
Wol Euler: perhaps I'll be able to join in when it starts again
Eliza Madrigal: think so? would be great
Darren Islar: Liza walked over the pavilion at a weird time, yesterday or the day before, the listener started
Bleu Oleander: I may try also
Eliza Madrigal: the sessions have been quite warm, easy breezy feeling
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: although very dark at that time for me :)
Darren Islar: is that on the Friday Eliza, instead of time?
Eliza Madrigal: :)) yes exactly Darren
Darren Islar: Wol, you get a dry tongue doing that
Wol Euler: heheheh
Wol Euler: furballs!
Bleu Oleander: ha!
Darren Islar: more pieces of dry box in your mouth
Darren Islar: ai.... I need to go again already
--BELL--
Yakuzza Lethecus: take care darren
Bleu Oleander: bye darren
Darren Islar: (waves)
Eliza Madrigal waves Darren
Santoshima Resident: bye darren ~ take care
Wol Euler: bye leapin' take care
Wol Euler: enjoy the weekend
Yakuzza Lethecus: do you also have to do the ai class test on tomorrow bleu ?
Bleu Oleander: what class?
Bleu Oleander: oh the online class?
Santoshima Resident: artificial intelligence?
Yakuzza Lethecus: yes :)
Bleu Oleander: not doing the tests
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: the lite version only
Wol Euler: low-fat education :)
Eliza Madrigal: hahah
Bleu Oleander: non-fat
Eliza Madrigal: tailored to fit
Alfred Kelberry: um, wrong button :)
Alfred Kelberry: sorry, a bit distracted
Wol Euler admires Santo's wild hair
Alfred Kelberry: agreed
Alfred Kelberry: clicky you :P
Alfred Kelberry: woly, have you been at nationalpark hainich?
Alfred Kelberry: purr
Wol Euler: nver heard of it
Alfred Kelberry: the canopy walk looks awesome!
Alfred Kelberry: http://www.nationalpark-hainich.de/u...-walk-way.html
Alfred Kelberry: half a km
Eliza Madrigal: very pretty
Alfred Kelberry: primeval forest
Santoshima Resident: looks very beautiful
Wol Euler: oh, that's hours away from berlin though.
Alfred Kelberry: yea
Wol Euler: it would take a whole day to get there and back
Alfred Kelberry: i'm thinking to make a trip there. off the meet up days.
Wol Euler: ah :)
Wol Euler: looks great, it would certainly be worth seeing
Alfred Kelberry: yes, would be a waste for a weekend meeting
Alfred Kelberry: i guess
Alfred Kelberry: but! something to consider for a week retreat next time :)
Wol Euler: sure, organize it :)
Alfred Kelberry: :P
Wol Euler: the organizer gets to decide stuff like that
Alfred Kelberry: oh, really?
Alfred Kelberry: cool
Alfred Kelberry: me the organizer then. order around and stuff.
Wol Euler: sure, who did you think would organize the retreat, if not the organizer
Santoshima Resident: :)
Wol Euler: hello aph, zon
Wol Euler: a & z, nice
Santoshima Resident: hi aph
Alfred Kelberry: woly, bring these suitcases upstaires
Bleu Oleander: hey Aph, Zon
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Alfred Kelberry: aph!
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Aphrodite, Hi Zon :)
Alfred Kelberry: zon :)
Santoshima Resident: hi zon :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey zon
Aphrodite Macbain: Nice group of avis here
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: a warm place - it's cold outside
Bleu Oleander: lovely here
Alfred Kelberry: *rubs aph's hand to warm them up*
Eliza Madrigal: warm and muggy here... has rained most of the day :)
Aphrodite Macbain: aww. thanks alphie
--BELL--
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Bleu Oleander likes boxy's bleu-box
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)) pedestal of bleu
Wol Euler: heheh
Bleu Oleander: ha!
Bleu Oleander: more comfortable as the pedestal not on it :)
Alfred Kelberry: also, a roboseat :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: onigokko
Alfred Kelberry: ha!
Zon Kwan: sighs
Eliza Madrigal: heheh
Eliza Madrigal: stop
Bleu Oleander: sighs too, gotta love fridays
Aphrodite Macbain: onigokko
Eliza Madrigal: so cute, Boxy :))
Santoshima Resident: mised that ... head down reading
Zon Kwan: cant we just be sad and serious
Aphrodite Macbain: stop
Wol Euler: ack
Wol Euler: ah
Santoshima Resident: some folk are born for oniggoko, and some are not :)
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Alfred Kelberry: refreshing
Aphrodite Macbain: :_)
Bleu Oleander: sad and serious... that's thursdays right?
Eliza Madrigal: :) onigokko is perhaps best for those of us who resist it
Eliza Madrigal: hehhee
Alfred Kelberry: sadly serious
Santoshima Resident: so thursday :)
Alfred Kelberry: seriously sad
Bleu Oleander: :) Eliza
Alfred Kelberry: yep, friday is good
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Wol Euler: I'm curious about the desirableness of sad and serious?
Zon Kwan: its fun
Wol Euler: O.O
Wol Euler: sad is fun?
Alfred Kelberry: woly, maybe it's related to the wish of being social and being alone?
Zon Kwan: makes one feel intellectual and important
Yakuzza Lethecus: i think we have to have the contrasts we can´t fill ourselves with just happyness and consumption
Wol Euler: oh dear :)
Eliza Madrigal: :) Yaku
Bleu Oleander: sad can be inspirational sometimes
Wol Euler: agreed
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Eliza Madrigal: 'a good cry'
Alfred Kelberry: yaku, true. sadness is how we distinguish joyfulness.
Bleu Oleander: inspired a few paintings
Wol Euler: actually what Zon said is a common meme in western culture: happy people are presumed to be stupid and/or naive compared to sad ones
Alfred Kelberry: hmm
Eliza Madrigal: only western culture?
Wol Euler: well, I don't presume to speak for others; may well be universal
Alfred Kelberry: *thinks of enigmatically intellectual nick cave*:)
Eliza Madrigal: I think it is the 'overly happy' thing... smiley people very suspicious
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Eliza Madrigal: <-- overly smiley generally
Alfred Kelberry: i'm not sure about desire for sadness, but i do have desire to be alone sometimes
Zon Kwan: alone is peace
Bleu Oleander: sometimes
Alfred Kelberry: yep, recharge your batteries
Alfred Kelberry: especially for introverted types :)
Eliza Madrigal nods
Santoshima Resident: yes !!
Wol Euler remembers Eliza's smiles from Halifax, and smiles. They were restorative
Eliza Madrigal: for the extroverted alone/quiet can be really hard
Alfred Kelberry: unlike extroverts they do not feed on social interaction
Eliza Madrigal: ((((Wol))))))
Wol Euler: okay, but what does alone have to do with sad and serious?
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Zon Kwan: nothing
Bleu Oleander: :)
Wol Euler is puzzled.
Eliza Madrigal: usually when sad one doesn't seek to be around a lot of people
Wol Euler is trying to do too many things at once.
Alfred Kelberry: mmm, smiles from halifax. sounds like a title for a nice weirdly sad nick cave song :)
Bleu Oleander: what happend to misery loves company?
Eliza Madrigal: good question
Wol Euler: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxDATUU2L1I <- lovely sad Nick Cave song
Santoshima Resident: and, company loves a crowd :)
--BELL--
Zon Kwan: sad song yes
Bleu Oleander: sad song ... bookmarked for next time i'm sad :)
Alfred Kelberry: me likes
Zon Kwan: but he seems to be enjoyuing it
Wol Euler: oh yes, indeed
Zon Kwan: the feeling
Zon Kwan: of sadness
Alfred Kelberry: i don't think it's sad
Alfred Kelberry: it's beautiful
Alfred Kelberry: sadly happy maybe...
Zon Kwan: sadly beautiful
Bleu Oleander: we could have a sad song session
Wol Euler smiles.
Bleu Oleander: everyone bring a song
Wol Euler: yes, good idea. we had a favourite songs session some time ago, two years maybe?
Wol Euler: it was fun
Aphrodite Macbain wipes away a tear
Eliza Madrigal: http://www.blackbookmag.com/tv/somet...ele-ok-1.41217
Zon Kwan: Sadness is emotional pain associated with, or characterized by feelings of disadvantage, loss, despair, helplessness, sorrow, and rage. When sad, people often become outspoken, less energetic, and emotional. Crying is an indication of sadness.
Santoshima Resident: alas, eliza, video removed from the viewer
Eliza Madrigal: such a bummer...
Aphrodite Macbain: Sadness is usually the result of the awareness of loss
Bleu Oleander: :(
Alfred Kelberry: it's like mark kozelek. a lot of folks think he's depressing, but he actually fills me with joy. not a jump and scream joy, but quiet and soothing one.
Eliza Madrigal: nice point Aph
Wol Euler nods.
Alfred Kelberry: well said, aph
Aphrodite Macbain: loss of a variety of things
Bleu Oleander: maybe the result of extreme awareness
Aphrodite Macbain: yes,
Alfred Kelberry: but also, a sense of new findings, no?
Aphrodite Macbain: depression, perhaps, comes when it is not reolved
Aphrodite Macbain: resolved
Aphrodite Macbain: feeling of loss returns over and over again
Alfred Kelberry: *nods*
Eliza Madrigal: part of the natural process of integration perhaps
Aphrodite Macbain: yes. Inside work
Alfred Kelberry: me likes clarity of aph
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: me likes Alfred
Alfred Kelberry: heh
Santoshima Resident: depression is a numbing, protection
Aphrodite Macbain: inwardlooking,a winter of the soul
Eliza Madrigal nods... I find a huge difference between sadness which seems like dealing with the things that cause depression
Aphrodite Macbain: then spreing eventually resurns
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: found a working link
Eliza Madrigal: http://jezebel.com/5859220/the-adele...g-in-your-soul
Santoshima Resident: thanks!
Aphrodite Macbain: but not my spelling
Alfred Kelberry: aph, you're striking today again :)
Alfred Kelberry: "inwardlooking, a winter of the soul" - brilliant
Aphrodite Macbain: blushes
Eliza Madrigal: indeed beautiful
Wol Euler: yes, a tasty turn of phrase
Aphrodite Macbain: also described as the black dogs
Eliza Madrigal: sorry to be multitasking looking for the silly link :)
Bleu Oleander: gtg bye all :)
Eliza Madrigal: or dementors
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Bleu :))
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! bye bleu
Wol Euler: bye bleu, enjoy the weekend
Santoshima Resident: bye bleu, good to see you
Aphrodite Macbain: demetors Eliza?
Aphrodite Macbain: demntors?
Aphrodite Macbain: dementors
Eliza Madrigal: that's what JKR calls depression in the harry potter books
Wol Euler nods.
Wol Euler: wb zon
Eliza Madrigal: cured by chocolate temporarily
Eliza Madrigal: but then requiring deep work
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Alfred Kelberry: ohhh! friday night lights! i haven't seen the movie, but the sound score is written by one of my fave bands. so wonderfully sad, you might say.
Zon Kwan: thx
Aphrodite Macbain: how is it used? I have a dementor coming on?
Eliza Madrigal: no, they are are creatures described as 'draining all the hap;iness from the world'
Aphrodite Macbain: what band?
Aphrodite Macbain: ah. good word
Aphrodite Macbain: like tormenters
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Aphrodite Macbain: demented tormenters
Aphrodite Macbain: the fures
Aphrodite Macbain: furies
Alfred Kelberry: aph, explosions in the sky
Aphrodite Macbain: as opposed to furries
Santoshima Resident: funnee, ty eliza
Eliza Madrigal: :)Yw thought it was cute
Alfred Kelberry: eliza, creatures in harry potter books?
Wol Euler: :)
Wol Euler: demons, rathetr
Eliza Madrigal: to dispell them the skill learned was to conjur a deep happy memory.. (dementors)
Eliza Madrigal: Boxy, no dementors aren't cute...
Eliza Madrigal: the SNL skit was :)
Eliza Madrigal: and you were, running around in the pond... a happy memory sure to ward off dementors
Eliza Madrigal giggles
Wol Euler smiles.
Santoshima Resident: we need pictures! :)
Alfred Kelberry: :)
--BELL--
Aphrodite Macbain quietly giggles at the video
Aphrodite Macbain: I'm off to me new abode. See you all soon I hope
Eliza Madrigal: OH, APh... I saw your house... very cute
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye aph
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye!
Santoshima Resident: see you aph!
Yakuzza Lethecus: good night everyone
Santoshima Resident: bye all
Eliza Madrigal: NIght Yaku and San
Wol Euler: goodnight all, take care
Santoshima Resident: bye yaku
Wol Euler: enjoy the wekeend
Zon Kwan: waves to all
Eliza Madrigal: for some reason the power has been going off after hard rain pours here so if I poof that's it)
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, bye Zon
Eliza Madrigal: I do love the rain though
Alfred Kelberry: someone asked for a pic
Alfred Kelberry: http://up.keep.se/lake.jpg
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Alfred Kelberry: a random one
Eliza Madrigal: beautiful!
Alfred Kelberry: from a walk 2 weeks ago
Eliza Madrigal: I wasn't sure if she meant of dementors or of boxy playing in fountain...was going to ask
Wol Euler: nice
Alfred Kelberry: heh
Eliza Madrigal: :) that's in your back yard Boxy??
Alfred Kelberry: well, close :)
Eliza Madrigal: *lovely*
Alfred Kelberry: a short session
Alfred Kelberry: friday is a busy time, i guess
Eliza Madrigal: today for once I was trying not to push any topics and let friday be friday, hehehe
Wol Euler smiles.
Alfred Kelberry: how did the experiment go? :)
Eliza Madrigal: um
Alfred Kelberry: frydish? :)
Eliza Madrigal: quite a mixture of topics today
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Eliza Madrigal: with a bit of onigokko
Alfred Kelberry: yep
Wol Euler: a good range, from silly ot serious and back again
Alfred Kelberry: *looks for other random pics*
Wol Euler: speaking of random pix, I think That Other Place needs a photo of Paranoid Man ... :)
Alfred Kelberry: what place?
Eliza Madrigal: me too... looking....hahaha
Eliza Madrigal: my camera isn't working so it is only on my phone
Wol Euler: nevermind, boxy :)
Eliza Madrigal: and I cant seem to move pics from it...
Wol Euler: awwww, boo
Eliza Madrigal: Paranoid Man is how my son went to school this morning, Boxy
Wol Euler grins
Eliza Madrigal: he wore safety goggles, anti-bacterial wipes, a fan for heatstroke, garlic...
Eliza Madrigal: pillow on his back..
Wol Euler: / me grins broadly.
Eliza Madrigal: it was for "Super Hero" day
Eliza Madrigal: heheheh
Eliza Madrigal: he is good at making statements, came home beaming so I suppose he received positive feedback
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: good, glad to hear taht
Eliza Madrigal: I was relieved
Eliza Madrigal: when he word the hug me cactus, they took it from him
Wol Euler: o.O
Eliza Madrigal: so I always get nervous
Alfred Kelberry: ahhh!
Eliza Madrigal: tell me about it
Alfred Kelberry: gee, awesome
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Eliza Madrigal: he's inventive
Wol Euler: presumably because it was a dangerous weapon?
Wol Euler: "might hurt somebody"
Eliza Madrigal: YES it covered his face and encouraged other kids toward mischeif
Eliza Madrigal: *mischief
Wol Euler: ah
Eliza Madrigal: @@
Wol Euler: hmmmmmm
Wol Euler: still, sup-optimal.
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Alfred Kelberry: pics please!
Eliza Madrigal: I have a photo, but not of that ... it is my FB profile now...
Alfred Kelberry: *taps his paw* :)
Wol Euler: oho
Wol Euler runs off to look
Alfred Kelberry: wow
Alfred Kelberry: little soul of pab?
Eliza Madrigal: that is myself with my grandfather
Alfred Kelberry: cute
Alfred Kelberry: cuddly girl
Eliza Madrigal: girl scout age, haha
Alfred Kelberry: traditional dress?
Eliza Madrigal: my favorite dress of all time
Eliza Madrigal: think that's why I still like quilts and mosaics
Alfred Kelberry: heh
Eliza Madrigal: :)
--BELL--
Alfred Kelberry: nice picture. well framed.
Eliza Madrigal: you can see a bit of the care my Meme took with the gardens here
Wol Euler: awwwwwwwwww
Eliza Madrigal: went there yesterday... it was all dull and overgrown, not colorful at all
Alfred Kelberry: where is it?
Eliza Madrigal: talk about sad
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Alfred Kelberry: aww
Eliza Madrigal: South Miami
Wol Euler nods.
Eliza Madrigal: it is funny to wonder how much we romanticize in memory
Alfred Kelberry: oh, eliza, you should do that picture thing!
Alfred Kelberry: um...
Wol Euler: yeh, really
Alfred Kelberry: oh yes! so true
Eliza Madrigal: such a small house compared with my memories
Eliza Madrigal: :) Boxy
Eliza Madrigal: I could make an ice picture
Eliza Madrigal: hahah
Eliza Madrigal: I did think it might be fun to hang RL pictures in an SL house and visa versa, and then take pics of that
Wol Euler: heh, yes, nice idea
Alfred Kelberry: the movies i awed at as a child looked kind of dull years later. it's better to keep them in the past, i guess :)
Alfred Kelberry: oh yes, eliza
Eliza Madrigal: :) well or watch them with child's eyes
Wol Euler: Adams has a "life-sized" image of Adams Rubble on her desk at work :)
Alfred Kelberry: there's an artist in sl who does that sort of
Eliza Madrigal: does she???
Eliza Madrigal: haha. fantastic
Alfred Kelberry: wow, didn't know it
Eliza Madrigal wonders if the listener is still being stubborn
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Wol Euler: hmm, let me check
Eliza Madrigal: oh, your arm is out... thought you were working
Wol Euler: [14:17] Wol Euler: yeh, really [14:17] Alfred Kelberry: oh yes! so true [14:18] Wol Euler: heh, yes, nice idea [14:18] Alfred Kelberry: the movies i awed at as a child looked kind of dull years later. it's better to keep them in the past, i guess :) [14:18] Alfred Kelberry: oh yes, eliza [14:19] Wol Euler: Adams has a "life-sized" image of Adams Rubble on her desk at work :)
Wol Euler: it#s running
Eliza Madrigal: yay
Wol Euler: yeah
Alfred Kelberry: huh?
Eliza Madrigal: the recording is working, Boxy
Alfred Kelberry: ah
Alfred Kelberry: good :)
Wol Euler: it sometimes isn't working.
Wol Euler: which is not good
Alfred Kelberry: this is how a-students sit
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Wol Euler was an a-student and usually slouched
Alfred Kelberry: i think it might be sl realted
Alfred Kelberry: heh
Eliza Madrigal: ooh, restarts and such, or glitches
Eliza Madrigal: oh, wait... mixed persons talking
Eliza Madrigal: :) I used to do that as an experiment in PaB when I first came... wanting to see if I was influenced by 'people' or ideas...
Eliza Madrigal: I'd take a statement and imagine I'd heard it from someone else...
Wol Euler nods.
Eliza Madrigal: to some extent its all mixed together anyway :)
Eliza Madrigal: anyway, I'm babbling....
Wol Euler: hush :)
Wol Euler: it#s called "conversation"
Alfred Kelberry: hi :)
Eliza Madrigal: so what is planned for weekend?
Wol Euler: some scripting, some reading, some laziness; a few dungeons in WoW, dancing in Fracture ... the usual
Alfred Kelberry: shopping!
Alfred Kelberry: dungeons of wow :P
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Wol Euler: yep :)
Eliza Madrigal: and sharing wild ideas for PaB on Sunday
Alfred Kelberry: i don't get this fantasy thing
Wol Euler: oh yes
Wol Euler: that's fine, boxy :) no reason why you should. It's optional :)
Alfred Kelberry: i like your boots though
Wol Euler: and I myself didn't get it until fairly recently, a year ago
Alfred Kelberry: oh, what made you reconsider?
Wol Euler: well, it's a longish story.
Wol Euler: a friend recommended watching Wil Wheaton#s keynote speech at the opening of PAX 2010
Wol Euler: I knew the name vaguely, but nothing more than that
Alfred Kelberry: um... ok :)
Wol Euler: so I watched it, and was fascinated
Wol Euler: he talked about games and gaming, naturally enough given that it was at PAX
Wol Euler: and among other thinigs quite a bit about WoW and Dragon Age: ORigins
Wol Euler: so I bought dragon age and played it, and then after a while tried WoW
Wol Euler: until that point I would have said that I was not a gamer :)
Alfred Kelberry: he enchanted you
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Wol Euler: but I enjoyed both, and still play WoW
Wol Euler: yep
Alfred Kelberry: ok, me not watching this talk :)
Wol Euler adores and admires Wil Wheaton.
Alfred Kelberry: just to be safe
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: hahah me too Boxy
Wol Euler smiles.
Eliza Madrigal: wow has a social component which makes it interesting
Wol Euler: indeed
Wol Euler: not just creature-slaughtering
Wol Euler: teamwork, cooperation
Wol Euler: to slaughter creatures *together* :)
Eliza Madrigal: heheh
Wol Euler: the game enforces cooperation, you cannot get far without joining teams of other players
Eliza Madrigal: I do like that... seems something that needs to evolve...
Eliza Madrigal: group dynamics
Wol Euler nods.
Eliza Madrigal: is there building?
Wol Euler: nope
Wol Euler: that is the maiin difference to SL, wow is entirely pre-packaged
Wol Euler: none of it is user-made, nothing at all
Wol Euler: well, ok, there is an API and people write addon-tools for improving the display of game statistics etc
Wol Euler: but apart from that, no
Wol Euler: and poor narcoleptic boxy has again left us :)
Eliza Madrigal: hahaah
Alfred Kelberry: hi :)
Eliza Madrigal: I finished the Jobs biography today... seeing everything in gates/jobs dualities
Alfred Kelberry: heh
Eliza Madrigal: haha so open/closed systems.... wow/sl
Wol Euler: heheheh, nice
Eliza Madrigal: but what is interesting is that theyre both what they are
Eliza Madrigal: in their own contexts make sense
Wol Euler nods.
Eliza Madrigal: I'm not sure what kind of game might entice me... have to think about that
Eliza Madrigal: not a big creature slaughterer
Eliza Madrigal: hahah
Wol Euler: heheeh
Alfred Kelberry: try a quest
Wol Euler: minecraft, then, perhaps? not that I've ever played that ...
Wol Euler: or the Sim City franchise
Eliza Madrigal: Oh that's what son loves Minecraft
Wol Euler: city planning/building, keep the populace happy
Alfred Kelberry: yes! she can do that
Wol Euler: I loved Sim City, in its day, I spent ages playing that, until 4am
Eliza Madrigal: years ago I actually did play Sim City... and Harvest Moon :) kids wish I'd do that again but lost its flavor
Alfred Kelberry: eliza's sim city is pab :)
Eliza Madrigal: really enjoyed doing the plumming and roads...hehe
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Eliza Madrigal: :) Boxy
Wol Euler: I found it really interesting to see how all the bits interacted
Wol Euler: I tried to make cities I'd like to live in, lots of schools and libraries and parks, low crime, high happiness ...
Alfred Kelberry: heh
Eliza Madrigal: yes me too :)) level up the happiness and parks
Alfred Kelberry: brothels?
Eliza Madrigal: hahah
Wol Euler: also played The Sims for a while, but never really got on with that
Wol Euler: my sims never made any friends :) they were really happy though, pottering around at home with their fish and plants
Eliza Madrigal: I'd sort of like to see more depth of activites possible in SL... like farms you have to 'keep up'
Alfred Kelberry: ha! :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Alfred Kelberry: farmville fan?
Eliza Madrigal: no
Wol Euler: try the meeroos, then, you have to feed them :)
Eliza Madrigal: haha
Wol Euler: farmville? boo!
Eliza Madrigal: I mean like here on my guardian spot...
Eliza Madrigal: could grow tomatoes...
Wol Euler smiles.
Alfred Kelberry: i'm pretty sure someone did that
Wol Euler: mmm, that should be easy enough ... it must exist somewhere
Eliza Madrigal: I've been watching to see how they work with things on perfect paradise
Eliza Madrigal: but it seems one really just 'has' the food
Eliza Madrigal: or plant
Eliza Madrigal: and then mixes imagination
Eliza Madrigal: take awa/build
Eliza Madrigal: so continuitiy maybe not so much
Alfred Kelberry: has in inventory?
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Eliza Madrigal: and shares, etc... they have some cute basket weaving animations and such
Eliza Madrigal: but it stays pretty much in the same phase
Eliza Madrigal: never ending basket
Wol Euler: heheh, like Penelope's mourning shawl
Alfred Kelberry: huh?
Alfred Kelberry: cruz?
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Wol Euler: no :) wife and presumed widow of Odysseus aka Ulysses
Alfred Kelberry: ah
Eliza Madrigal: she waited forever...
Wol Euler: to delay the moment of his burial in absentia she would work by day on knitting a shawl to wear at the funeral
Wol Euler: then at night unpick what she had done
--BELL--
Alfred Kelberry: i liked to watch cartoons about greek gods as a kid, but the family intricacies bored me :)
Eliza Madrigal: the subtleties only unpack when older I think
Wol Euler: yeah
Eliza Madrigal: how can a kid relate to something like the above sentiment?
Alfred Kelberry: hmm
Wol Euler nods.
Alfred Kelberry: ding
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Alfred Kelberry: um, time to go for me
Eliza Madrigal: sorry bell
Wol Euler: bye boxy, take care
Eliza Madrigal: yes me too..
Eliza Madrigal: TKD upcoming
Alfred Kelberry: you be good and grow well
Wol Euler: bye eliza
Alfred Kelberry: tomatoes
Eliza Madrigal: :) Be good Boxy
Wol Euler: oh?
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Wol Euler: enjoy the weekend, perhaps we
Wol Euler: we'll meet again :)
Alfred Kelberry: yep
Eliza Madrigal: :)) will not say be good because that might not help in game
Alfred Kelberry: wuff!
Eliza Madrigal: heheh
Eliza Madrigal: @Wol
Wol Euler: heheh
Wol Euler: "slaughter well!"
Eliza Madrigal: yeah! haha
Wol Euler: heheheh
Wol Euler: bye, eliza
Eliza Madrigal: oh goodness...now have to act as wig wearer for daughter to trim...
Eliza Madrigal: what a day :)) Bfn
Wol Euler: heheh :)
Wol Euler: bye! enjoy