2012.09.16 13:00 - [Visitor]

The Guardian for this meeting was Bruce Mowbray - subbing for Aphrodite (somewhere in the Rockies.)

Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Kori. Hey, Wol!
Wol Euler: hello bruce, korel
Korel Laloix: Heya
Korel Laloix: What the topic today?
Bruce Mowbray is experimenting with different screen resolutions.
Bruce Mowbray: Whatever you'd like to discuss, Kori -- or you too, Wol.
Wol Euler: ah :)
Wol Euler: and korel is experimenting with elegance
Korel Laloix smiles
Korel Laloix: I actually do elegance well RL.. not so sure SL.
Bruce Mowbray: Perhaps Kori is going to the opera. . .
Korel Laloix: Been to a couple of operas.. not really impressed.
Wol Euler: what did you see?
Korel Laloix: Some Russian thing...was the first.
Korel Laloix: Then the Magic Flute.
Bruce Mowbray: Hello, [Visitor].
Wol Euler: hi naima
Bruce Mowbray: Please have a seat if you wish, [Visitor].
Bruce Mowbray: Is this your first time here, [Visitor]?
Bruce Mowbray: If so, welcome!

--BELL--

Bruce Mowbray: I've just given you a notecard about Play as Being -- and about our 4 x per day sessions, right here at the fountain.
[Visitor]: Thank you
Bruce Mowbray: yw!
Wol Euler: [Visitor], this is a meeting of a meditation group called Play as Being.
Bruce Mowbray: I do need to ask your permission to post anything you might say in chat into our on-line wiki - -
Bruce Mowbray: It's a group with many varied interests --
Bruce Mowbray: for many of us, meditation is an important tool for exploration and discovery. . .
[Visitor]: Can I decline for now?
Korel Laloix: Sure.
Bruce Mowbray: You can certainly decline -- and I will delete whatever you say from the wiki later when I post it.
Korel Laloix: You can even decline retroactively and we will remove your comments.
Wol Euler: actually let's be clear about this.
Bruce Mowbray listens to Wol.
Wol Euler: would it be OK if we just changed your name?
Wol Euler: call you "visitor" or something
Bruce Mowbray: You see, [Visitor], the policies of Second Life (Linden Labs) require us to ask permission before we post anyone's chat words on-line. . . and that's why I needed to ask.
[Visitor]: Sure. Yeah, call me visitor, that is fine
Wol Euler: thank you
Bruce Mowbray: OK.. "Visitor" it is! Thanks.
Korel Laloix smiles
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Korel Laloix: When I first started coming here [Visitor], I just had them call me "your majesty" in the logs.. it worked out well.. smiles
Bruce Mowbray: I watched the entire Ring Cycle this week -- the Metropolitan Opera's 2007 (?) version -- staged by Robert LePage.
Bruce Mowbray: Amazing work.
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: glad you enjoyed it
Bruce Mowbray: Immensely --
Wol Euler: good :)
[Visitor]: smiles! your majesty
Korel Laloix: Bruce... what in the world are you talking about?
Bruce Mowbray: but I had a lot of trouble following the plot/characters, so I printed out the entire synopsis and followed along with that.
Bruce Mowbray: Wagner's 4-part opera(s)...
Korel Laloix: (yes I know it is early afternoon, but I am a bit tipsy on margaritas)
Wol Euler: sixteen hours over four evenings :)
[Visitor]: I started watching that as well and it is pretty tough to follow
Korel Laloix: I know the name Wagner from my time in Munchin.
Wol Euler nods.
Wol Euler: a local hero in Bavaria
Korel Laloix: I would love to get back to Deutschland... now that my mind is a bit more rational.
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, 16 hours -- plus the introduction the night before the Cycle began -- about how it was staged by the Met.
Wol Euler nods.
Korel Laloix: Ouch...
Korel Laloix: worth it?
Wol Euler: heheheheh
Wol Euler: the question of questions.
Bruce Mowbray: VERY MUCH worth it!
Wol Euler: good
Bruce Mowbray: I only wish I spoke (understood) German.
Wol Euler: it doesn't help as much as you might think :)
Wol Euler: I read the subtitles too
Bruce Mowbray: But, of course, the whole thing had subtitles for us dumbies.
Wol Euler: because Wagner made up words to suit his rhythms
Bruce Mowbray: (referring to myself -- not to you, Wol).
Korel Laloix: Can you give us a summary Bruce or Wol?
Bruce Mowbray: HA!
Bruce Mowbray: ok.
Wol Euler: short answer: it's about the hunger for power, and the trouble that this brings
Bruce Mowbray: This has GOT to be good!
Bruce Mowbray: and the hunger for gold.
Bruce Mowbray: and love.
Wol Euler: it's a world-creation myth
Wol Euler: answering the question "if the gods made the world, why are they no longer around and in charge?"
Bruce Mowbray ponders "Twilight of the Gods..."
Wol Euler: and the answer is "because their greed brought them down, the era of gods ruling by force was replaced by an era of mankind ruling by love"
Korel Laloix: Sort of like my Native tradition.
Korel Laloix: The ketchi Manitu created the earth and stood back.
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Korel Laloix: Rather than an involved diety.

--BELL--

Wol Euler: there is a similarity there, yes
Bruce Mowbray: Wotan was quite involved, I'd say.
Wol Euler: yep, but blew it and bowed out
Wol Euler: it's a struggle between greed and love as motivating forces
Wol Euler: and love seems to win out (or does it?)
Korel Laloix: I like the love theme.
Bruce Mowbray: That love thing didn't work out so well for Siegfried.
Wol Euler: it's full of wonderful music, yes
Wol Euler: you would recognize many many bits of it
Bruce Mowbray: Beautiful music, yes.
Korel Laloix: Not my style for sure. opera.
Bruce Mowbray: Mine neither, Kori -- except only very recently.
Bruce Mowbray: I've seen three live operas in my entire life... and this one on TV.
Korel Laloix: More into dubstep this month... smiles
Bruce Mowbray: I love musicals, though - - and have seen several of those.
[Visitor]: I have always felt that there was something I was missing with opera, I enjoy all the other classical arts, but I have never grown to appreciate this form
Bruce Mowbray: I could have said exactly the same, [Visitor]. But somehow I really got into the Ring Cycle.
Wol Euler: it takes time
Korel Laloix: Trivia... who was the first First American to write an opera?
Wol Euler: and a certain willingness to listen
Wol Euler: Aaron Copeland?
Bruce Mowbray: good guess, Wol!
Wol Euler: probably wrong though, probably older
Wol Euler: who was it, korel?
Bruce Mowbray: Would you consider "Porgy and Bess" to be an opera?
Korel Laloix: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Indian_opera
Wol Euler: I would, yes
Korel Laloix: Zitkala Za
Wol Euler: oh wow, I didn't know that. 1913
[Visitor]: I do enjoy Porgy and Bess
Bruce Mowbray: me neither.  Fascinating, Kori. Thanks for sharing that.
Korel Laloix: She wrote a lot of meaningful short stories as well.
Korel Laloix: A bit pessimistic for me.... in some ways.. but very heart felt.
Bruce Mowbray: Gertrude Bonnin (1876-1938)
Bruce Mowbray: also known as Zitkala-Sa ("Red Bird" in Lakota).
Wol Euler: oh, I just realized I misread your question, korel.
Korel Laloix: What question?
Wol Euler: Copeland was of course immigrant
Wol Euler: "first First American"
Wol Euler: I missed the double first :)
Korel Laloix: Oh OK.. amilwa
Korel Laloix: smiles
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Boxy.
Alfred Kelberry: ah, there you are :)
Alfred Kelberry: hi
Alfred Kelberry: [Visitor] - new girl :)
[Visitor]: Hi Boxy!
Korel Laloix: Don't touch his nose..
Korel Laloix: evidently it is addictive.
Korel Laloix smiles
Alfred Kelberry: are you a friend of kori?
Alfred Kelberry: kori is a good girl
Korel Laloix: I am a boxy nose virgin so far.
Bruce Mowbray: "Visitor," please meet Boxy. . . whose nose is pushable.
[Visitor]: how do I push his nose?
Bruce Mowbray: just click on it.
Wol Euler: left click on it, the brown bit
Korel Laloix: No.. I am not a good girl.. I am an amazing girl... smiles
Alfred Kelberry: click it
Alfred Kelberry: oh, woly!
Korel Laloix: girl... lol
Alfred Kelberry: didn't notice you behind this chat window :)
Korel Laloix: Don't do it... smiles
Wol Euler: heheh
[Visitor]: I don't have a left click
[Visitor]: I have a mac with just one button
Wol Euler: then a normal click
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Bruce Mowbray: Use the same thing that you used to sit on the cushion, [Visitor].
Wol Euler: right-click on the Mac in SL is cmd-click
Wol Euler: you may have to zoom in a bit to hit it well
Wol Euler: hold still
Bruce Mowbray: All eyes on Boxy's nose.... and then he moves!
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Bruce Mowbray: No worries. It's safe.
Bruce Mowbray: Boxy doesn't bite.
Bruce Mowbray: afk for a sec... brb
Alfred Kelberry: i nibble sometimes :)
Alfred Kelberry: yay!
Wol Euler cheers!
Alfred Kelberry: well done
[Visitor]: I'm sorry
[Visitor]: thanks
Alfred Kelberry: you're now a certified boxy nose clicker :)
[Visitor]: thanks
Wol Euler: don't be sorry
Wol Euler: we do it all the time
Alfred Kelberry: like this outfit, woly

--BELL--

Bruce Mowbray: I see that the number of mugshots on Bleu's board of session "claimers" is growing - slowly.
Wol Euler: thanks
Bruce Mowbray: Woly's outfit seems a bit Wagner-inspired to me....
Wol Euler: heheheh
Bruce Mowbray: She'd make an excellent Valcurie.
Bruce Mowbray: (pardon the spelling).
Wol Euler smiles.
Bruce Mowbray: Horns or no horns.
Alfred Kelberry: i was thinking of taking the Monday's 1 pm slot
Korel Laloix: OH thanks.. need to give her my pic.. thanks.
Bruce Mowbray: YES! Please do, Boxy.
Wol Euler: good idea
Alfred Kelberry: most likely will be alone though :)
Bruce Mowbray: Do you know where to have your picture taken?
Alfred Kelberry: already have :)
Bruce Mowbray: It's right behind the board...
Wol Euler: okay
Bruce Mowbray: kk. Good!
Alfred Kelberry: i already have a topic for discussion
Bruce Mowbray: Great!
Wol Euler: I thought you might
Korel Laloix: Anyone want a copy ?.. smiles
Wol Euler: sure, korel :
Wol Euler: :)
Alfred Kelberry: what copy?
Bruce Mowbray: I'm game.
Bruce Mowbray: Excellent, Kori. Thanks.
Alfred Kelberry: oh, a picture
Korel Laloix: I like that one.
Alfred Kelberry: i suggest to install a big portrait of kori here at the pavilion
Korel Laloix: That would be a nice touch for sure.
Alfred Kelberry: Woly, do you visit 1 pm sessions?
Wol Euler: almost all of them
Alfred Kelberry: cool
Alfred Kelberry: we can always have a cozy chat if no one shows up :)
Wol Euler grins.
Wol Euler: seven minutes to Bertram
Bruce Mowbray: Bert's meditation count-down -- 7 - 6 ....
Korel Laloix: What his topic for today?
Wol Euler: silent meditation ;)
Wol Euler: that's all it is
Wol Euler: ten minutes of sitting together silently
Bruce Mowbray: Bert will give a chant -- in Tibetan and in English -- then ten minutes of silence.
Wol Euler: yes, that's true, the intro
Wol Euler: and there is sometimes some discussion after
Korel Laloix: Not my style then.
Bruce Mowbray: Happy to give LM's to anyone who wishes them.
Korel Laloix: Thanks no...
Alfred Kelberry: ommmm....
Bruce Mowbray: also happy NOT to give them to folks who don't want them.
Bruce Mowbray: Am I accommodating, or what?
Wol Euler nods.
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Korel Laloix: Of course.. smiles
Bruce Mowbray: three minutes.
Alfred Kelberry: btw, is it blasphemy to hum "ommm...." in a church?
Bruce Mowbray: I suppose it depends which church, Boxy.
Wol Euler: if the church says it is, then yes; if not, then no
Alfred Kelberry: Bruce, orthodox :)
Bruce Mowbray: At my Quaker Meeting you could hum any ol' thing you wanted to. . .
Alfred Kelberry: yay!
Bruce Mowbray: I'm off to Bert's now.
Bruce Mowbray: May all be well and happy.
Bruce Mowbray dies from laughing....
Wol Euler: see you there
Alfred Kelberry: Bruce, where do i sign up for my Quaker badge? :)
Wol Euler: silliness abounds :)
Wol Euler: goodnight all, take care
Alfred Kelberry: ok, meditate well
Wol Euler: [Visitor], we meet here every six hours
Wol Euler: 1am 7am 1pm 7pm
Wol Euler: (not always the same people, obviously)
Wol Euler: feel free to drop in
Wol Euler: but it you want to keep your name out of it, please remember to tell the people as you arrive
Wol Euler: goodnight!
Alfred Kelberry: nice thighs, woly
Alfred Kelberry: bye :)

--BELL--

Alfred Kelberry: ok, I'm back to rl
Korel Laloix: Ciao
Alfred Kelberry: be good, you two
Alfred Kelberry: ;)
Korel Laloix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5wew...eature=related
Alfred Kelberry: dubstep?
Korel Laloix: Playing for me right now.
Korel Laloix: No... slow Mexican Christian unblack metal.
Alfred Kelberry: ok, white metal
Korel Laloix: Two are lez as well.. smiles
Alfred Kelberry: I'll find you two nice jazz lez girls :)
Alfred Kelberry: bye!
Korel Laloix: Not into jazz though.