2012.12.05 19:00 - Waiting for Clarity

The Guardian for this meeting was stevenaia Michinaga. The comments are by stevenaia Michinaga.

Catrinamonblue, druth Vlodovic, Tara Lacrima: (aka sophiasharon),  Raffila Millgrove, Santoshima Resident, Lucinda Lavender and Geo Netizen joined me for this evening's session.

stevenaia Michinaga: waves
druth Vlodovic: ripples
stevenaia Michinaga: how are you two this evening?
Catrinamonblue Resident: having hair troubles
druth Vlodovic: colourful :)
druth Vlodovic: how are you doing?
stevenaia Michinaga: keeping busy

--BELL--

stevenaia Michinaga: time to relax
druth Vlodovic: oh,you're all toned down now
stevenaia Michinaga: winter wear
druth Vlodovic: lol
stevenaia Michinaga: I finally found my seasonal atire
stevenaia Michinaga: my inventory is a mess
stevenaia Michinaga: aww, cat your hair finally rezzed
stevenaia Michinaga: it;s red
stevenaia Michinaga: or orange
Catrinamonblue Resident: Red :) my favorite colour
Catrinamonblue Resident: did you see my shoulder kitties?
Catrinamonblue Resident: aren't they adorable
stevenaia Michinaga: yes
stevenaia Michinaga: perfect word for this week's theme... Clarity
stevenaia Michinaga: I think I have non at the moment
druth Vlodovic: you're not clear?
stevenaia Michinaga: I am clear, the world around me seems t be unclear
Catrinamonblue Resident: I'm not one to talk clarity - I walk in a haze most days :)
stevenaia Michinaga: laking momentary directions, like an eddy
stevenaia Michinaga: ponders how to get out of it
druth Vlodovic: what sort of directions would you like?
stevenaia Michinaga: a moving direction, other than a stagnant direction
Catrinamonblue Resident: I find sometimes it seems i'm just floating along and then I realize I'm just where I need to be.
stevenaia Michinaga: nod, but even that take the proper perspective to see that is where you are
stevenaia Michinaga: so perhaps I am lacking perspective
druth Vlodovic: is movement better than stillness?
stevenaia Michinaga: at the moment, yes
Catrinamonblue Resident: likes stillness... especially in the dark of the night when all is quiet
druth Vlodovic: ah,so you aren't enjoying where you are,am I allowed to bother you for details?
stevenaia Michinaga: not sure they will help, it;s not about enjoyment, more about lack of understand whey things are stagnant, usually I jsut wouldn;t noctice it and everything is fine, perhaps it's heightened awareness of lack of direction
Santoshima Resident: howdy
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi San
druth Vlodovic: hi san
stevenaia Michinaga: Hi san
Santoshima Resident: { reading to catch up }
stevenaia Michinaga: didn;t see you arrive
Santoshima Resident: just popped in
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Santoshima Resident: what were you writing about, Stevenaia?
stevenaia Michinaga: discussing the week's theme, Clarity and how I seems to be something I am lacking this week
stevenaia Michinaga: Clearity of perspective
Santoshima Resident: oh
druth Vlodovic: conflating direction with clarity it seems
Santoshima Resident: ty
Santoshima Resident: ok
druth Vlodovic: they say the suicide rate goes down during times of war,probably because everybody gets to see things simply
stevenaia Michinaga: I see the center of an eddy rather than a way out
druth Vlodovic: maybe direction and purpose serve the same roles
stevenaia Michinaga: nods
stevenaia Michinaga: you heading out San?
Santoshima Resident: no
Santoshima Resident: wondering why mesh is not showing?
stevenaia Michinaga: hmm, answers berfore questiosn
stevenaia Michinaga: love lag
Santoshima Resident: yeah, that's it, LAG
druth Vlodovic: "blame it on the lag"
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Santoshima Resident: oh well, feet and hands in the cubist style
stevenaia Michinaga: better than blaming it on telepthy

--BELL--

Catrinamonblue Resident: Clarity in thoughts? If the mind races from thought to thought can it have clarity on any one thing? Or is all hazy thinking flying around
druth Vlodovic: having too many things that are poorly understood or that we don't know exactly how to react to is generally considered the cause of confusion
druth Vlodovic: but it is also the beginning of learning
stevenaia Michinaga: I suspect I am purposefully in a holding (waiting ) patter as I am expecting things to occur shortly, suddenly makes sence
Catrinamonblue Resident: Sometimes I think life moves in periods of action and periods of waiting
stevenaia Michinaga: future event in the que that will be taking place shortly (perhaps)
Catrinamonblue Resident: I'm in a waiting period myself right now
druth Vlodovic: nervous about it?
stevenaia Michinaga: expectations
Catrinamonblue Resident: I hate expectations hate the very word
stevenaia Michinaga: the expectations is it will or won;t happen, the gift arrives, or it never does
druth Vlodovic: now you've got me really curious
druth Vlodovic: hi raff
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Raffi
stevenaia Michinaga: it;s been a while
Raffila Millgrove: hello everyone
Santoshima Resident: hello Raffi and Geo
Geo Netizen bows deeply
Catrinamonblue Resident: hello Raffi , Geo
druth Vlodovic: hey geo
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Geo, I ahve keep my cam more widely focused, perhaps a clue to clarity
stevenaia Michinaga: if I look at Cat's cat ot San';s bird, I miss much
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
druth Vlodovic: but if you look at everything then you miss san's bird and cat's cats
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: Druth, I am waiting to hear about a very interesting project, was told one date, then told another date 3 weeks later
stevenaia Michinaga: it created a bit of imbalance for me
druth Vlodovic: isn't it typicalin your line to have plans made and changed at the last minute?
stevenaia Michinaga: nods, but ideally they change once you have "pans", which makes things exciting
Santoshima Resident: slight slip of the key ... and a tp wisked stevie away
Santoshima Resident: wb :)
druth Vlodovic: ah,the call of the wild
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, don;t know how I ended up over there
druth Vlodovic: were they nice people?
stevenaia Michinaga: who?
druth Vlodovic: I looked at a radar and it showed three people at the same distance, but that doesn't always mean they are together I guess
stevenaia Michinaga: I was jsut wisked away somehow
druth Vlodovic: no longer stagnant :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: movement out of the eddy

--BELL--

Santoshima Resident: Geo, you are a guardian whom i've not met before ... a pleasure to finally meet you
stevenaia Michinaga: so.... ponders how to find clarity in waiting
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Tara
Geo Netizen bows, yes a guardian with limited connection at monastery
druth Vlodovic: you'd think we'd find periods of no movement easier to dealwith
Tara Lacrima: hi Stevenaia, Hi everyone
druth Vlodovic: hey tara
Catrinamonblue Resident: HI Tara
Tara Lacrima: (it's sharon/sophiasharon, just so you know)
stevenaia Michinaga: smiles, why the change
Raffila Millgrove: oh wow.
Geo Netizen bows to Tara
Raffila Millgrove: hi .. sharon/tara
Santoshima Resident: hi Tara :)
Tara Lacrima: bows back to Geo
Tara Lacrima: :)
Raffila Millgrove: ty for tellng us.
stevenaia Michinaga: perhaps on any normal day there is little expectation as to what it would bring, and most accept that.. when you are waiting for something, it changes things, changes time
Catrinamonblue Resident: nods
druth Vlodovic: so are you talking about clarity or peace?
stevenaia Michinaga: that;s proabably the discomfort I sence
Raffila Millgrove: when i come here to Pab.. i try not to bring any expectation. Sometimes.. like now.. to just sit silently with congenial others... I find it.. very restful. soothing.
Catrinamonblue Resident: smiles
stevenaia Michinaga: I am trying to find clarity in stopping where I usually find it in motion
Raffila Millgrove: other times i felt like. Oh they are intentionally not talking because i am here. i really have felt that. perhaps wrongly so. but i acknowledge.. you could feel weird/uncomfortable in silence, not knowing the "why" for each.
Tara Lacrima: in this venue especially, no reliable body language
Geo Netizen smiles
druth Vlodovic: dropping the need to fill silence is an art I haven't mastered yet, though I will admit it makes me less jittery than erstwhile
Raffila Millgrove: so true Tara.
Raffila Millgrove: sometimes i am at another group.. and i know the silence there is based in combo of afk. and people intensely in private message. the long silences there are unsetlting sometimes. you feel left out.
stevenaia Michinaga: perhaps we should all go shoopping for "Body Lannguage" scripts
Tara Lacrima: :) I've never forgetton that Wol has said that typos are SL's body language
Tara Lacrima: but we were talking about silence
Raffila Millgrove: amazing. didn't hear her say that. so cool.
Tara Lacrima: it was quite a while again, several yrs
stevenaia Michinaga: A friend of mine is a Quaker and they speack when the voice emerges... I see this as something like that
stevenaia Michinaga: *speak
Raffila Millgrove: neat idea. wonder if.. it's accurate or not.
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Tara Lacrima: I think it is Raffila, at least it has been for me.

--BELL--

Tara Lacrima: I agree Stevenaia, I love the idea. However, I'm not sure if what I have to say is that important or profound.
Raffila Millgrove: Raffi is fine. I dunno. i typo and it only means that i typo'd. Least i see it that way. could be wrong. long ago i was in the world where someone typo'd broken, turning it into "borken".. we loved that .. and always used it to indicate bugs and equpment that was malfuctioning. saying it's borken.
Tara Lacrima: heh
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: it is ike an "accent"
Raffila Millgrove: oh we lost San. i wonder if she crashed.
Geo Netizen: . They criticize him who sits in silence, they criticize him who talks a lot. They even criticize him who speaks in moderation. There is not a man in the world who is not criticized.
Tara Lacrima: hmm
Raffila Millgrove: Pabsters are pretty nice about not critisizing each other. it's one of things i like about the group, Geo.
druth Vlodovic: why we have to be happy with our own opinions of ourselves
druth Vlodovic: wb san
Tara Lacrima: :)
Raffila Millgrove: wb San
Tara Lacrima: wb San
Geo Netizen smiles
Catrinamonblue Resident: wb San
Santoshima Resident: ty / laggy
Raffila Millgrove: not that they never do it, but's it's kind of frowned on...
stevenaia Michinaga: wb
stevenaia Michinaga: anyone have any other thougts on their own clarity
Raffila Millgrove was particularly muddled today so.. vague on clarity this sec, Steve. lol
stevenaia Michinaga: my day too
Catrinamonblue Resident: clrity is refining the muddy water down to the basics
Catrinamonblue Resident: clarity :)
Raffila Millgrove: some guy, a dr. on tv.. says that the brain Cannot multitask. a myth. you brain can only do one task.. one thing to focus attention.. so when we say we are mutlitasking.. we are often making our brains very tired to keep switching attention.
Raffila Millgrove: so on busy days. we tend to tire our brains.. and feel muddled up.
Raffila Millgrove: please excuse me pabsters, I need to leave a few minutes early for an 8 pm event. Hugs to you all. xoxo
Catrinamonblue Resident: bye Raffila
Santoshima Resident: bye Raffila
Geo Netizen bows
Tara Lacrima: bye Raffi
stevenaia Michinaga: thanks for stopping by
druth Vlodovic: 'night raffila
stevenaia Michinaga: silence can be relaxing
Geo Netizen: Some days mountains are move, other days wishers are tickled :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Tara Lacrima: smiles
Santoshima Resident: time for Wollander ... take care all ~

--BELL--

Catrinamonblue Resident: bye San
Tara Lacrima: bye San :)
druth Vlodovic: hi luci
stevenaia Michinaga: night san (anyone know what Wollander is?)
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Luci
Tara Lacrima: hi Luci :)
Lucinda Lavender: sorry...really lagging here hi all
Tara Lacrima: oops I think your stuck Luci :(
Tara Lacrima: phew
Lucinda Lavender: ahhhh
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Luci
Lucinda Lavender: how are things tonight?
druth Vlodovic: g2g, 'night all
stevenaia Michinaga: nice and quiet :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: night Druth
Lucinda Lavender: night druth...
Tara Lacrima: good night druth
stevenaia Michinaga: night Druth
Catrinamonblue Resident: I'm heading out now too
Catrinamonblue Resident: night all
stevenaia Michinaga: night Cat
Tara Lacrima: good night Catrina
Lucinda Lavender: night catrina
Tara Lacrima: time for me to go as well, I wish I could get here earlier ;)
Tara Lacrima: bye for now
Geo Netizen bows deeply
Tara Lacrima bows
Lucinda Lavender: night Tara:)
Lucinda Lavender: Geo...greetings..nice to meet you
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, always nice to meet Geo
Lucinda Lavender: any topic tonight?
stevenaia Michinaga: clarity, ir lack thereof
stevenaia Michinaga: *or
Lucinda Lavender: ok
stevenaia Michinaga: when is your "new" dream circle Luci
Geo Netizen: My connection is terrible but if you’ll excuse the horrible delays, I do appreciate the connection.
Lucinda Lavender: ah...dream circle will happen tomorrow at 5:30 pm SL
stevenaia Michinaga: hmm, I have a class tomorrow...sigh, is it weekly or monthey?
Lucinda Lavender: and we will meet at Santoshimas tree house...
stevenaia Michinaga: nice
Lucinda Lavender: well to start monthly..
Lucinda Lavender: I know SAntoshima suggested 3 weeks between times to get a feel for it
Lucinda Lavender: and that would be good except the holidays are comeing
stevenaia Michinaga: I've been having more dreams lately, have to get in the habit of writing them down again
Lucinda Lavender: Geo:) understood
stevenaia Michinaga: they dissappear like smoke
Geo Netizen smiles
Lucinda Lavender: well one thought I have had lately
stevenaia Michinaga: ...listens
Lucinda Lavender: is that when you are noticing things in RL and such...going for a deep connection, experiencing humor, and lightness too as well as work then the dreams seem to open up
Lucinda Lavender: that is what has happened this last 24 hours for me
stevenaia Michinaga: old dreams? or the next dream?
Lucinda Lavender: had a dream this morning connected to yesterday...
Lucinda Lavender: current dreams
Lucinda Lavender: and it is as if stirrings have been happening
stevenaia Michinaga: sp they come back?
stevenaia Michinaga: *so
Lucinda Lavender: well todays dream was echoing yesterdays reality/topics

--BELL--

Lucinda Lavender: it is so rare for me to dream of my deceased conductor but after singing last night and hearing people speak of him he was there in the dream for the first time in several years
Geo Netizen: May blessings descend on you both like dew fall ...
Geo Netizen bows deeply
Lucinda Lavender: thanks Geo...namaste
Lucinda Lavender: the thought was that when there is a richness noticed then the dreams sometimes follow
Lucinda Lavender: maybe sometime you will be able to be there for the dream circle:)
stevenaia Michinaga: I find it fasenatin how they dissappear, but if you tell comeone the dream ro wrtie it down it stays with yu more
stevenaia Michinaga: I hope to come one of these eveningd
Lucinda Lavender: yes! it is brought into the world somehow
Lucinda Lavender: the outer world
Lucinda Lavender: from the inner
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, the other world
Lucinda Lavender: the convergence of what seems imaginary and what seems actual
stevenaia Michinaga: I;m heading off to bed, thanks for joining us, good luck tomorrow
stevenaia Michinaga: hold that thought :)
Lucinda Lavender: see you Steve:) sleep well
stevenaia Michinaga: night