2012.12.26 07:00 - Working Alone

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Zen Arado. The comments are by Zen Arado.

    The conversation was mostly about the dangers, advantages, disadvantages, perceived or not perceived loneliness, of working alone or from home:

    Zen Arado: Hi Riddle :)
    Riddle Sideways: Hi there
    Riddle Sideways: are you still in holiday mood?
    Zen Arado: how are you?
    Riddle Sideways: this is a good week to work, no interruptions
    Riddle Sideways: unless SL counts :)
    Zen Arado: my holiday mood is endurance :)
    Zen Arado: waiting for things to get back to normal
    Zen Arado: Hi Korel :)
    Korel Laloix: HEya
    Riddle Sideways: Hi Kotr;
    Riddle Sideways: oh dear, can't type today
    Korel Laloix: Horrid lagg for me.
    Zen Arado: wonder how many are online?
    Korel Laloix: did not look... but I bt a lot.
    Zen Arado: nothing else to do :)
    Zen Arado: but many visit relatives
    Zen Arado: can't sit in SL then
    Korel Laloix: I am at work again.... so not a lot to do here either.
    Zen Arado: funny how they work boxing day in the US
    Zen Arado: public holiday here
    Zen Arado: but then you take Thanksgiving
    Korel Laloix: I am theonlypero workin in this buildin thogh.
    Korel Laloix: So allage I cant see whati type until aater I pushenter.
    Zen Arado: isn't that scary?
    Zen Arado: for a young woman
    Korel Laloix: It is not haunted or anthing.
    Zen Arado: but anyone could walk in?
    Korel Laloix: Oh.. and apretty safe area..... ad I can take care of myself .
    Riddle Sideways: Boxing day always seemed... well, a little strange. on Xmas you open the boxes and the next day you box them again
    Korel Laloix: The have to ring fist or have akey.. or smash a windo.
    Zen Arado: ah I see
    Zen Arado: many years ago I used to supervise a chemical plant alone

    Korel Laloix: That sounds not fun.
    Zen Arado: there were plenty of people around during the day
    Zen Arado: but the evenings and night shifts you were on your own
    Zen Arado: dangerous
    Korel Laloix: I go camping my byself.
    Zen Arado: there was a little control room but all the main plant was outside
    Korel Laloix: Just what I can carry on the motorcycle and me sometimes.
    Zen Arado: I used to have to climb ladders onto the top of stainless steel tanks to open valves
    Korel Laloix: Great to get away from everyone.
    Zen Arado: yes I used to hitchhike like that in Australia
    Zen Arado: when I was in my twenties
    Korel Laloix: Never hichhiked.
    Zen Arado: it was a great feeling of freedom
    Zen Arado: I even rode freight trains
    Korel Laloix: I like that about the bike...... can park and find a place to camp where no one could find you.
    Korel Laloix: That sounds fun though.
    Riddle Sideways: hitchhiking use to be a really good way to get anyway
    Korel Laloix: Now probably a death wish.... frowns
    Riddle Sideways: nowdays, don't see anybody hitchiking
    Zen Arado: especially if you didn't have much money
    Zen Arado: I think they still ride the freight trains in America
    Zen Arado: I saw a TV programme about it
    Korel Laloix: Probably.
    Zen Arado: I wouldn't do it in Europe this was Australia
    Zen Arado: Queens land railways were very easy going
    Zen Arado: health and safety wouldn't allow just one person
    Zen Arado: to work in a place I think
    Zen Arado: not a chemical plant anyway
    Zen Arado: with boilers and making formaldehyde
    Zen Arado: I remember a guy got electrocuted in that place
    Korel Laloix: SOunds smelly f nothing else.
    Zen Arado: he disappeared for a couple of days and I was the last person to see him alive
    Zen Arado: I was interviewed by detectives
    Korel Laloix: Whre as he?
    Zen Arado: turned out he had gone up to a damp loft
    Korel Laloix: OH OK>
    Zen Arado: and stepped into a puddle near a switchboard
    Zen Arado: the roof was leaking
    Zen Arado: its felt funny to be under suspicion :-)
    Korel Laloix: Sad to hear tha.
    Zen Arado: yes it was sad at the time he was only a young guy in his twenties
    Korel Laloix: To laggd fr me.
    Korel Laloix: Take care
    Zen Arado: bye Kori
    Riddle Sideways: take care
    Korel Laloix: ciao
    Zen Arado: keep safe
    Zen Arado: there used to be a cooling tower in this place
    Riddle Sideways: ah well, years ago chemical spills, explosions, dead workers, etc. were not that dangerious
    Zen Arado: and sometimes a piece of plastic would get stuck over the inlet pipe
    Zen Arado: so what you had to do was climb into three feet of water in a sump and remove it
    Zen Arado: or the plant would shut down
    Zen Arado: and you might have to do this on your own at three a.m. the morning
    Riddle Sideways: sounds like a really fun job
    Zen Arado: I only had to do it once
    Zen Arado: yes chemical plants weren't good places to work in
    Zen Arado: I had to load 80 pound bags of powders into reactors
    Zen Arado: you cut the top off with a knife and then poured the stuff in
    Zen Arado: and you were breathing the powder
    Zen Arado: it used to make my hands itchy
    Riddle Sideways: back then those powders were ok to breathe
    Riddle Sideways: nowdays very bad for you
    Zen Arado: you could wear a face mask but it was very uncomfortable in the Australian heat

    Zen Arado: many people have to work alone
    Zen Arado: writers and painters for example
    Zen Arado: and lots of people do computer type jobs from home
    Riddle Sideways: Riddle does
    Zen Arado: that must get a bit lonely too?
    Riddle Sideways: office-mates are 3 cats
    Zen Arado: :-)
    Zen Arado: They don't stab you in the back anyway
    Zen Arado: office politics can be a drag as well
    Zen Arado: but some people like that kind of thing
    Riddle Sideways: it is funny that none of the usual workers are on Skype now
    Zen Arado: you can talked to co-workers on Skype?
    Riddle Sideways: yes, but usually text chat
    Zen Arado: that helps I guess
    Zen Arado: I wonder if you could set up an office in Second Life and work with people in real life?
    Riddle Sideways: many do
    Zen Arado: You could set up a little water cooler and chat with people around it :-)
    Zen Arado: I didn't know that
    Riddle Sideways: there are many nice fancy office building for rent short term
    Zen Arado: though I suppose any group in Second Life gives that function
    Zen Arado: amazing
    Riddle Sideways: some companies have SL conventions and conferrences
    Zen Arado: somebody was telling me yesterday about a surgeon who uses Second Life to set up simulations of operating theatres
    Zen Arado: it's connected with the way they can do operations long distance m=now
    Riddle Sideways: there was an island (somewhere here) with EMT, first responder training simulations
    Zen Arado: I think I would prefer to have a real surgeon
    Riddle Sideways: so much robot surgery being done now
    Zen Arado: I suppose if the success rate is good, why not?
    Riddle Sideways: but the lag might be deadly (literally)
    Zen Arado: Yes :-)
    Zen Arado: not good if they closed the region halfway through an operation
    Riddle Sideways: speaking of which... the world has not ended yet
    Zen Arado: lots of things to go wrong
    Zen Arado: I suspected it might not
    Zen Arado: be have been spared once more
    Riddle Sideways: well, most of the Mayans are gone
    Zen Arado: the prophecy worked for them then
    Riddle Sideways: and the wednesday rolling reboot has not ended this world so far

    Zen Arado: so maybe they just skip it this week?
    Zen Arado: Because everyone is on holiday
    Zen Arado: do you prefer to work from home Riddle?
    Riddle Sideways: probably they need more than one person in the plant to reboot the worlds
    Riddle Sideways: yes, like the solitude (need to get the topic in)
    Riddle Sideways: am not lonely
    Zen Arado: :)
    Zen Arado: sometimes, if I feel lonely, I just sit and ask myself what it is
    Riddle Sideways: couple of years ago there was a job that really forgot about anybody not in the building
    Zen Arado: does it really exist?
    Zen Arado: oh?
    Riddle Sideways: so each morning, get up, shower, etc. and drive to a building.
    Riddle Sideways: About an hour combined comute plus the prep
    Riddle Sideways: seems a waste
    Zen Arado: Yes all that unnecessary driving people seem to have to do
    Riddle Sideways: now it is get up, make coffee, boot computer, work
    Zen Arado: some people say teleconferencing isn't as good as being in a room with people
    Zen Arado: but I wonder why
    Zen Arado: how much of that is just old habits
    Riddle Sideways: most of it
    Riddle Sideways: they mention needing to see body language etc.
    Zen Arado: but you could see that on video as well?
    Zen Arado: You can't shake hands
    Zen Arado: don't see that as a big disadvantage
    Riddle Sideways: could, but don't use video much
    Riddle Sideways: that not showering, dressing thing
    Zen Arado: if you were a naturalist you could sit around naked all day
    Riddle Sideways: shaking hands seems to have gone away a little also.
    Zen Arado: without offending anyone
    Riddle Sideways: everybody is using hand sanitazers now
    Zen Arado: yes that's true
    Zen Arado: I haven't worked in a firm or 20 years so why forgotten what it's like
    Zen Arado: I have
    Zen Arado: so we all might end up like in the matrix?
    Zen Arado: Each in a tiny cell
    Zen Arado: but communicating with everyone else
    Zen Arado: any time we want?
    Riddle Sideways: thanks, Zen. had not been lonely and separated feeling until this chat
    Zen Arado: I don't hear much discussion about these things in the media
    Zen Arado: sorry Riddle
    Zen Arado: :)
    Zen Arado: but I was also pointing out that we are all connected
    Riddle Sideways: watching the text-ers alone in a resturant or on the street
    Zen Arado: in fact I think Second Life connects me with far more people than I ever was able to connect with before
    Riddle Sideways: with hundreds of friends online
    Zen Arado: isn't that better than having our narrow little bunch of relatives and friends?

    Riddle Sideways: yes, we have over a hundred caring friends in PaB alone.
    Zen Arado: A woman friend pointed out to me that my Second Life friends wouldn't be able to come and visit me if I were sick
    Zen Arado: but I mentioned to her that she never did that either :-)
    Riddle Sideways: true
    Riddle Sideways: well, need to get back to it
    Riddle Sideways: thank you Zen
    Zen Arado: kk
    Zen Arado: thanks for coming Riddle
    Zen Arado: byee

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