2012.12.27 13:00 - Teaching and Telling are two different things

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Druth Vlodovic. The comments are by Agatha. Thanks to Druthy for sending me the log (my first for ages!)

     

    Catrinamonblue Resident: 's current display-name is "Catrinamonblue".
    Bruce Mowbray: 's current display-name is "Bruce".
    Qt Core: Hi Bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Qt!
    Bruce Mowbray: Just rezzing a bit here....
    Bruce Mowbray: Whew! I've had a frustating day!
    Bruce Mowbray: (or PART of a day, anyway).
    Bruce Mowbray: I've been watching Microsoft tutorials.

    /me makes the sign of the cross

    Qt Core: that's frustrating

    *Yeah!* (and then some)

    Bruce Mowbray: and it is very CLEAR that Teaching and Telling are two different things!
    Bruce Mowbray: The guy says, "Just copy it from here and paste it over here....
    Bruce Mowbray: but doesn't SAY where here and overe here are....

    May the Lord preserve us from Mr Gates...

    Qt Core: i went to work today, very low traffic and a quiet office strangely it was a productive day
    Bruce Mowbray: telling telling telling -- but very little taching, I'm afraid.
    Bruce Mowbray: Great!
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, folks are still home for the holidays, I guess.
    Bruce Mowbray: Please excuse me for just a sec...
    Bruce Mowbray: afk....
    Bruce Mowbray: (forgot to stoke the old wood stove).
    Bruce Mowbray: So you were able to get a lot of work done -- since no one else was there?
    Qt Core: someone was there but very few and clients too are mostly closed for the holiday so mostly silent phones too
    Santoshima Resident: 's current display-name is "san".
    Bruce Mowbray: Sounds good!
    Bruce Mowbray: I have been retired for several years, now, so it's good to hear about others' work experiences.
    Bruce Mowbray: The only "work" I do anymore is around the farm....
    Bruce Mowbray: household chores and the like.
    Qt Core: yes, and the next working days (tomorrow and 2/3/4 January shlould be the same (i took no days off this year)
    Bruce Mowbray: and those drop to a minimum in the winter.
    Bruce Mowbray: I've been writing an application for children....
    Bruce Mowbray: It asks them to type letters and numbers....
    Bruce Mowbray: and then it says those outloud.
    Bruce Mowbray: It is for kids just learning their ABC's.
      --BELL--1315
    Qt Core: so on a pc, with keyboard
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes.
    Bruce Mowbray: The letters and numbers are read by a child.
    Bruce Mowbray: (all in .wav files)
    Qt Core: how you plan to spread it ?
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh! I DON'T -- It is just for learning how to write the code...
    Bruce Mowbray: heh heh
    Qt Core: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: I'm trying to run it right now, so you can hear it.
    Bruce Mowbray: Hmmmm.
    Qt Core: yes
    Qt Core: (it's the classic demo effect very common when showing things)
    Qt Core: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: The funny thing is that I usually hear everyone else's speakers as an echo.
    Bruce Mowbray: Now I'm not even able to get the microphone and the speakers to work at the same time.
    Bruce Mowbray: (never have been able to do that, actually).
    Bruce Mowbray: Have you ever attended Yaku's Friday voice sessions at the pub?
    Bruce Mowbray: YO, Aphrodite!
    Qt Core: no, the last ones i attended where here
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hiya
    Qt Core: hi Aphro
    Bruce Mowbray: kk.
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Aph....
    Bruce Mowbray: I was just telling QT...
    Aphrodite Macbain: I am an orange cloud
    Bruce Mowbray: that I've spent most of this day with Microsoft tutorials...
    Bruce Mowbray: and have almost finished writing a children's program.
    Bruce Mowbray: that SPEAKS letters and numbers.
    Aphrodite Macbain: any idea what I can do?
    Bruce Mowbray: But....
    Bruce Mowbray: I can't get it to speak over the speakers...
    Bruce Mowbray: only ovcer the microphone.
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes... You can try pushing CTRL and ALT and "R"
    Bruce Mowbray: all at the same time....
    Bruce Mowbray: It's just a slow rez day.
    Qt Core: in all my time of oc use three are the worst peripherals: microphones, headset and preinters (pronters are really evil)

    Evil preinters and pronters...oh my

    Bruce Mowbray: I had the same problem when I arrived here.
    Qt Core: oc=pc
    Bruce Mowbray: I have np with the printe3r... but the mic is a whole different issue.
    Qt Core: you see they can't even be typed right
    Bruce Mowbray: There you go!
    Qt Core: before, when you spoke about winter and farm activities plus the snow here in sl i tought about this movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077138/
    Bruce Mowbray: I have a cool thing going on here...
    Bruce Mowbray: when I click in the window for my program... (not SL, but the one that I'm trying to write...)
    Bruce Mowbray: The little girls still says the letters and numbers.
    Bruce Mowbray: girl*
    Bruce Mowbray: Then, when I get in-world again, she stops.
    Bruce Mowbray: I guess you'd have to "be there."
    Bruce Mowbray: So, Aph! How was your yule?
    Qt Core: mmm somewhere i remember seeing checkboxes about mixing different audio sources (don't remember if in sl preferences or in the control panel)
      --BELL--1330
    Bruce Mowbray: .... and wondering whether you're thinking about firing your hairdresser....
    Bruce Mowbray: I can't find it, QT.
    Bruce Mowbray: it's not in SL's version 3, anyway.
    Bruce Mowbray: Perhaps if I were using my laptop, then you'd be able to combine the audio input and output.
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh dear...
    Bruce Mowbray: Did I [most unintentionally] insult Aph!??
    Qt Core: or maybe it is just too sm,art and tries to cancel what it thinks being noise
    Qt Core: don't know
    Bruce Mowbray: It think it's an input-output problem....
    Qt Core: she said so little she may had tech issue and crashed
    Bruce Mowbray: If I'm wearing the headphones, it refuses to go through the speakers, as well.
    Bruce Mowbray: I think something was a-miss with her viewer.
    Bruce Mowbray: I have NEVER seen her dress like that!
    Bruce Mowbray: especially at Holiday Time.
    Bruce Mowbray: Actually, all she daid was, "I am an orange cloud." and "Any idea what I can do?"
    Bruce Mowbray: and I made some comment about firing her hairdresser.
    Bruce Mowbray: and she poofed.
    Qt Core: never been an orange cloud, always white when in cloud form
    Bruce Mowbray dies from laughing....
    Bruce Mowbray: Me neither, QT.
    Bruce Mowbray: I'm always a white cloud.
    Bruce Mowbray: Did you know that in America "White Cloud" is a brand of toilet paper?
    Qt Core: (always thought that would be a good avatar)

    An avatar named Toilet Paper?

    Bruce Mowbray: It is also a town in Kansas.
    Bruce Mowbray: "White Cloud" is a cool name.
    Qt Core: has a distinctive native american feeling
    Wol Euler: hello qt and bruce, happy 27th
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, there is a Native American name for it also.
    Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Wol!
    Qt Core: Hi wol
    Wol Euler: hello and goodbye! it's teatime. I just wanted to say I'd attended this session
    Bruce Mowbray: Bye,m Wol!
    Qt Core: :) have fun
    Wol Euler grins and waves. Enjoy the day!

    /me waves to Wol....oh she's gone

    Bruce Mowbray: http://www.legendsofamerica.com/ks-whitecloud.html
    Bruce Mowbray: I walked through White Cloud when I walked across America in 1977.
    Bruce Mowbray: and the most amazing thing--- Wolf River Bob
    Bruce Mowbray: http://www.surfaceandsurfacephotogra...-cloud-kansas/
    Qt Core: you young americans putting 1872 building in historical registry ;-)
    Bruce Mowbray: I met this man . . . and he changed my life.
    Bruce Mowbray: I spent the whole day with him....
    Bruce Mowbray: and he walked with me to the border between Kansas and Nebraska at the end of that day.
    Bruce Mowbray: amazing memories. . . . from 1977!!
    Bruce Mowbray: I think it's wonderful that young Americans (some of them, anyway) are in touch with their history.
    Qt Core: yes, i was just joking
    Bruce Mowbray: Well, you know, QT, we don't HAVE much history over here, compared to you folks!
    Bruce Mowbray: I watched a TV show last night on the building of the cathedrals...
    Bruce Mowbray: and 800 years?????????????????????
    Bruce Mowbray: That is FOUR TIMES as old as this nation!
    Qt Core: we have so much sometimes we forget some and/or don't protect it
    Bruce Mowbray: OH!
      --BELL--1345
    Bruce Mowbray: I just realized that Wolf River Bob is still aline!
    Catrinamonblue Resident: 's current display-name is "Catrinamonblue".
    Bruce Mowbray: I saw him in 1995 and he had tuberculosis at the wime...
    Qt Core: in past months few pieces of Pompei crashed
    Bruce Mowbray: and I thought that it had done him in.
    Bruce Mowbray: really? I was in Pompeii in 1966.
    Qt Core: i was there in the late '80 forget the exact year
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    Qt Core: was a school trip and most of my classmates weren't interested
    Bruce Mowbray: kk. I just remembere3d the first America name for White Cloud:
    Bruce Mowbray: Ma Hush Kah (Chief White Cloud)
    Bruce Mowbray: sry -- back to your school trip.
    Bruce Mowbray: How young were you guys?
    Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Cat!
    Qt Core: 16/17
    Catrinamonblue Resident: hi guys didn't want to interupt the conversation :)
    Bruce Mowbray: kk. Yeah. Probably, mosatly interested in each other!
    Bruce Mowbray: mostly*
    Qt Core: hi catrina
    Bruce Mowbray: druth is arriving.
    Bruce Mowbray: There it is again.
    Qt Core: maybe (i think i ruined the night of a couple couple in that trip (hadn't noticed how things were going)
    druth Vlodovic: whooOoo
    Bruce Mowbray: s-l-o-w r-e-z-z
    Bruce Mowbray: whoooooOOOoooo, druth!
    Qt Core: maybe is the cushions wasn't Aph trying to rez on that one ?
    Bruce Mowbray: "ruined the night"????????
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, she was.
    Qt Core: wink wink
    Bruce Mowbray: But the rezzing condunrum seems universal today.
    Bruce Mowbray winks back at QT.
    Qt Core: well, on my foirs login try SL told me it could not resolve the sl server address
    Qt Core: first*
    Bruce Mowbray thinks to himself, "Those Italians are such great lovers."
    Bruce Mowbray: oh dear!
    Qt Core: are we ? never got the memo
    Bruce Mowbray: heh heh heh
    Bruce Mowbray dies from laughing....
    Bruce Mowbray is sure glad that he did not claim this session!
    Bruce Mowbray: YAYYY Druth --- Our hero!
    druth Vlodovic: there :-/ I'm the designated sucker today
    Bruce Mowbray: (even though we can only see her mist).
    druth Vlodovic: you may carry me around the pavillion on your shoulders
    Bruce Mowbray: YAYYY!
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    druth Vlodovic: I'd love to live in the old country, the closest I got to taking a class trip to an abandoned ruin was the grocery store in my town
    druth Vlodovic: must be the snow has got bruce all wound up :)
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Well, you would have fit right in -- in White Cloud, Kansas, druth!
    Bruce Mowbray: http://www.surfaceandsurfacephotogra...-cloud-kansas/
    Bruce Mowbray: Not much snow here, actually.
    Bruce Mowbray: Too far south and west of the storm to be affected much.
    Catrinamonblue Resident: we got a lot today :)
    Bruce Mowbray: (It's just my normal mental state that you perceive!)
    Catrinamonblue Resident: up to the bumpers on the car
    Bruce Mowbray: OMG!
    Bruce Mowbray: That's a lot!
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: I stocked up -- because they said that we might be in for a bad one....
    Bruce Mowbray: but, now I have lots of food and very little snow.
    Bruce Mowbray ponders: "The winter has just begun.... Save the food."
      --BELL--1400
    Qt Core: we got a few cm a couple weeks ago, i just hope no more for this winter
    Bruce Mowbray: You're loking angelic, druth!
    Bruce Mowbray: looking*
    druth Vlodovic: eek!
    druth Vlodovic: just when i thought it was safe to go through my inventory
    Catrinamonblue Resident: grocery store is within walking distance for us :) so no worries of stocking up
    Bruce Mowbray: The closest grocery store to where my typist is -- is five miles away.
    Qt Core: mine fifty... meters
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: oooops -- My typist hit the "Bow" key instead of the "Wow" key.
    Bruce Mowbray: /be thinks that, for the sake of his typist, it would be best for him to depart now.
    Bruce Mowbray: Bye for now, everyone!
    Catrinamonblue Resident: bye Bruce :) have a nice evening
    Qt Core: bye Bruce have fun
    druth Vlodovic: bye Bruce's typist
    Bruce Mowbray: You too, Cat!
    Bruce Mowbray: Bye, Qt!
    Bruce Mowbray: Bye, druth!
    Bruce Mowbray: Have fun with the log!!!
    druth Vlodovic: I'mgoing to cheat and mail it to her :)
    Catrinamonblue Resident: lol
    druth Vlodovic: Bruce is gone, now we can talk about him
    Catrinamonblue Resident: I guess I should get going too :)
    Catrinamonblue Resident: Bye QT, Druth :)
    Qt Core: a little lost reminiscing about my long past trip in southern italy :-)
    druth Vlodovic: bye guys
    Qt Core: bye catrina
    druth Vlodovic: were you going to school in Italy?
    Qt Core: all my schooling was in italy
    druth Vlodovic: lots to see i would guess
    Qt Core: too much in the end you get used to it (it's a pity)
    druth Vlodovic: maybe one day you'll get to retrace your steps :)
    druth Vlodovic: lol,when welived in mexico City my dad delighted in taking his mexican friends on tours of their own city
    druth Vlodovic: places they had never been and some they didn't know existed
    Qt Core: it's easy someone from outside (in whatever way he/she had) choose to be there so has more interest in the place
    druth Vlodovic: maybe i need to go back home with someone who has never been
    druth Vlodovic: see it again for the first time
    druth Vlodovic: happy reminiscing QT :)
    druth Vlodovic: bye
    Qt Core: sometimes i like to read blogs of people from other countriues that come here in italy to live
    Qt Core: bye druth

    Wonder how Aph's hairdresser is doing?

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