Eliza Madrigal: Morning Bleu :))
Bleu Oleander: how are you?
Eliza Madrigal: oh, alright thanks... lovely morning here
Eliza Madrigal: you?
Bleu Oleander: yes, here too
Bleu Oleander: this time of year is beautiful here
Eliza Madrigal: tinges of Fall?
Bleu Oleander: pups love to be out playing
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Bleu Oleander: missed La Sakura this week
Bleu Oleander: you and Kiremimi are doing a great job with that :)
Bleu Oleander: hiya Eos
Eliza Madrigal: missed it too... thanks so much - learning a lot
Eos Amaterasu: Hi gals
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Eos :) Morning
Bleu Oleander: so our theme this week is boredom?
Bleu Oleander: funny topic to me
Bleu Oleander: as I seldom experience it
Eliza Madrigal: I relate to 'restlessness' more than boredom
Eliza Madrigal: though similar
Bleu Oleander: ah yes perhaps
Bleu Oleander: maybe the inability to focus
Eos Amaterasu: when nothing is happening wanting to get off that spot
Eos Amaterasu: itchy boredom
Eos Amaterasu: wanting to focus?
Bleu Oleander: seems there is always something tempting me
Eos Amaterasu: yummy world
Bleu Oleander: focus in the sense of so much going on but can
Bleu Oleander: can't decide
Bleu Oleander: so stuck
Eliza Madrigal: good description
--BELL--
Eos Amaterasu: hm
Bleu Oleander: typo funny ... can ... can't
Bleu Oleander: how to stay curious might be a question
Bleu Oleander: stay engaged
Eos Amaterasu: how to stay curious and stay engaged?
Eliza Madrigal: curiosity is wonderful and terrible both :)
Eos Amaterasu: (kills cats)
Eliza Madrigal: ^.^
Bleu Oleander: never experienced the terrible side
Bleu Oleander: say more?
Eliza Madrigal: well it adds to the restlessness...
Bleu Oleander: if you put too much on your plate?
Eos Amaterasu: what is the "less" part of the "restlessness"?
Eliza Madrigal: yes...hmmm
Eliza Madrigal: 'boredom' actually seems the cure for restlessness... being able to just stay/surrender to what is and find okayness in that, then often clarity comes...so I ask myself, why not just do it... just let yourself be bored... but no.... :)
Eos Amaterasu: in sitting here for 90 seconds, there's a kind of twichiness of wanting to connect out, somatic almost
Eos Amaterasu: slight anxiety level
Eos Amaterasu: in the in-between spaces
Bleu Oleander: boredom doesn't seem a positive concept to me
Eos Amaterasu: Chögyam Trungpa coined the term 'cool' boredom....
Bleu Oleander: implies a lack of interest somehow
Eos Amaterasu: referring to being able to have nothing happen, without anxiety but with awareness, interest
Bleu Oleander: yes, that's different then boredom I think
Eos Amaterasu: not in the flow of things being so much as in the flow of the space from which they're being
Bleu Oleander: yes
Eos Amaterasu: definitely notice my twitchy anxiety then
Bleu Oleander: not a boring space
Eliza Madrigal nods
Eliza Madrigal nodding... seeing two sides of a coin.... a boredom like 'vegetating' in front of a tv vs. accepting the gaps and loose ends
Bleu Oleander: yes
Eos Amaterasu: tv veging is trying to escape the space
Eliza Madrigal: that's it... who said that all mans problems arise from not being able to sit still/quiet in a room?
Eos Amaterasu doesn't know
Eliza Madrigal: :) nor I obviously...lol
Eliza Madrigal restlessly runs to google
Bleu Oleander: me either, but probably an element of truth to it
Bleu Oleander: hiya Korel
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Korel :)
Korel Laloix: Heya
Eos Amaterasu: taking PaB into cafés around the world to bring that PaB still/quiet for a sec or two
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Korel
Eos Amaterasu: what about solving all woman's problems also?
Eos Amaterasu: Korel: 07:23] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): that's it... who said that all mans problems arise from not being able to sit still/quiet in a room?
Eliza Madrigal: :) that might take a team of experts :P
Eliza Madrigal laughs
Bleu Oleander: :)
Eliza Madrigal: (it was Blaise Pascal)
Bleu Oleander: ah
Korel Laloix: Intersting thought.
Eos Amaterasu: "let silence eternelle de ces espaces infini m'affrai" (Pascal)
Eos Amaterasu: "flow" has an interesting connotation of both engagement and detachment
Bleu Oleander: focus
Eos Amaterasu: funny that focus has space :-)
Bleu Oleander: a dropping so one can engage
Eos Amaterasu: I was just listening to a CBC radio program on Glenn Gould playing Bach (and others): awareness at the fingertip of every note, and of the emotional architecture
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: one wonders what would happen in world level negotiations, were everyone to genuinely take pauses - not run for coffee but really listen... perhaps to the same divine piece of music together...
Eos Amaterasu: I think that's starting to perk into those kind of circles
Eos Amaterasu: Doug Sosa here has done PaB-type pauses within sustainability meetings
Eos Amaterasu: But I think that takes commitment on the part of all involved
Bleu Oleander: yes
Eos Amaterasu: which usually only comes about when facing disaster
Eos Amaterasu: or passion for a project together
Bleu Oleander: hi Xiri :)
Eos Amaterasu: needs to hit the passion level, really move where you live
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Xiri
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Bleu , Korel, Eliza, Eos:)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Xirana :)
Korel Laloix smiles
Bleu Oleander: hiya San :)
Eliza Madrigal: 'where you live' if you can find that
Eliza Madrigal: Hi San :)
Bleu Oleander: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: hello San!
Eos Amaterasu: letting yourself be bored in a "cool" faction might bring you in contact close with where you live
Eos Amaterasu: fashion
Xirana Oximoxi: are we quiet or I have crashed??
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Xirana Oximoxi: ahhh :)
Eliza Madrigal: :) that sentence captures the feeling of restlessness for me sometimes... hehe...
Korel Laloix: In a silly number of IMs, so just listening.
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Eos Amaterasu: sometimes in boredom feeling like an ouch-cube of attention
Korel Laloix: ouch -cube?
Eos Amaterasu: perceptions / thoughts all going "ouch" in multimedia ways
Eliza Madrigal: pinball?
Bleu Oleander: :)
Eos Amaterasu: nice reference, Eliza
Eos Amaterasu: (Pinball Wizard?)
Bleu Oleander: pinball ... going for the points
Korel Laloix: I actaully played a pinball machine Firday night.
Eos Amaterasu: cool
Bleu Oleander: very goal oriented
Eliza Madrigal: he was playing without some basic tools (in the song)
Korel Laloix: Never done that before.
Eliza Madrigal: No?
Korel Laloix: It looked pretty pointles ot me... but it was fun to watch.
Eliza Madrigal: really enjoyed pinball, though it has been years... air hockey... tempest...
Bleu Oleander: :)
Korel Laloix: Never been a gamergirl.
Korel Laloix: There are afew that I like, but most are just silly. interactive movies.
Eliza Madrigal: well, you have also had SL from early on....
Eliza Madrigal: and the internets in general :)
Korel Laloix: That is true.
Korel Laloix: True.
Eos Amaterasu: we're inside a pinball machine
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Bleu Oleander: yikes
Eliza Madrigal: hahah
Bleu Oleander: horrifying thought
Xirana Oximoxi: SL is a very special kind of 'game' :)
Korel Laloix: Video Game can be silly, but I will be going as the girl from Lollipop Chainsaw for Haloween.. smiles
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: I wonder what the difference is between say, playing a game that takes your mind off of a harder or more abstract problem for a while, and sometimes thereby helps to solve it ... vs. vegetating in front of tv
Eos Amaterasu: could be the same
Eos Amaterasu: flipping channels
Bleu Oleander: interactive vs passive
Eos Amaterasu: true
Eliza Madrigal: yet one isn't actively working on the 'problem' when mind is 'off' in a game ... or a good film can do that too... 'flow'
Xirana Oximoxi: it depends on what you are watching on tv....some programs can also have your mind active..
Xirana Oximoxi: thinking about what you see or waht is said
Eliza Madrigal: true... maybe it is the interruptions in tv that don't allow for as much depth to get into a consistent flow
Eliza Madrigal: not always the content itself
Bleu Oleander: yes but you can't interact with TV in the sense of co-creating the experience perhaps?
Eos Amaterasu: watching youtubes on tv might be an exception (especially if you watch your own)
Xirana Oximoxi: yes! you can not be co.creating with what you see...but maybe it is creative for yourself
Bleu Oleander: :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal nods
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Eos Amaterasu: sometimes good to be random and stir unknown waters
Xirana Oximoxi: I usually don't watch tv...just the news, but time to time if there are good discussions between interesting people it is also a way to learn about different points of view...
Eliza Madrigal nods
Bleu Oleander: yes, for sure
Bleu Oleander: but now the engagement of being there in person, which we can't always do
Bleu Oleander: btw, we have an interesting conversation for our salon tonight
Eliza Madrigal: I watch tv at times... just not sure it disengages me creatively... hard to describe - occasionally
Eliza Madrigal listens
Bleu Oleander: Neal Stephenson is speaking with our group
Eos Amaterasu: !
Bleu Oleander: have you read any of his novels?
Eos Amaterasu: Yes, SnowCrash and Cryptonomicon
Xirana Oximoxi: I have not
Eliza Madrigal: I haven't but am familiar with him
Bleu Oleander: he will be in a conversation with Paul Davies, cosmologist
Eliza Madrigal: how'd you pull that off?
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Bleu Oleander: about sci fi and the future
Eos Amaterasu: Cryptonomicon has a multi-page sequence on the exact best way to eat cereal
Eos Amaterasu: to max the crunchiness quality
Bleu Oleander: pretty cool huh?
Eliza Madrigal: wow... when is Spirit of the Senses coming to YouTube? :)
Bleu Oleander: haha
Bleu Oleander: only about 40 of us in a private home :)
Eliza Madrigal: Eos - pages and pages of how to eat cereal sounds like 'cool boredom'
Eos Amaterasu: or intense geekiness
Bleu Oleander: :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: I must go now... have a nice day all and see you soon!
Bleu Oleander: bye Xiri
Eos Amaterasu: Ciao, Xirana!
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Xiri, nice to see you
Xirana Oximoxi: bye bye
Eliza Madrigal: time for me to go too... head out into a more random setting to plug away at ordinary tasks
Bleu Oleander: :)
Bleu Oleander: must go too
Santoshima Resident: bye, me too { sound of a rat in the sloped wall near my ear ... the day holds many possibilites.} ~
Bleu Oleander: take care everyone
Eos Amaterasu: Bye Bleu!
Bleu Oleander: :) San
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Bleu, thanks, lovely session
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Eos, Korel, San ... be safe :)
Santoshima Resident: bye, thank you ~
Korel Laloix: Ciao
Eos Amaterasu: caio all!
Eliza Madrigal waves warmly
Bleu Oleander: bye bye