2012.12.11 19:00 - so lonely together

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Eos Amaterasu. The comments are by Eos Amaterasu.

     

    Eos Amaterasu: Hi aph
    Aphrodite Macbain: Greetings Eos
    Catrinamonblue Resident: 's current display-name is "Catrinamonblue".
    Aphrodite Macbain: brb
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Cat
    Catrinamonblue Resident: hi Eos :)


    --BELL--


    ContreCourant Resident: 's current display-name is "ContreCourant".
    Eos Amaterasu: "be prepared" is the theme for the week, I believe
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi, upstream!
    ContreCourant Resident: laughs
    ContreCourant Resident: Hello
    ContreCourant Resident: no one has ever called me that!
    ContreCourant Resident: You win a prize
    Eos Amaterasu: oh, yum!
    Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Contre how are you tonight?
    ContreCourant Resident: I'll have to think of something. Maybe a paddle
    Eos Amaterasu: heh heh

    ContreCourant Resident: Hello! I remember you. We met a few weeks ago
    Catrinamonblue Resident: yes :) and I remember you too we had a great conversation with Druth
    ContreCourant Resident: who are Sam and Prin?
    ContreCourant Resident: I dont remember them
    ContreCourant Resident: where?
    Catrinamonblue Resident: ah they are my kitties :) I have 3 in RL but only 2 in SL :)
    Eos Amaterasu: There's an avatar named oO0Oo who's also called Sam (short for Samuo)
    Catrinamonblue Resident: oh didn't know that :)
    ContreCourant Resident: Interesting. Funny name. Does it have a meaning?
    Eos Amaterasu: no one ever asked :-)
    ContreCourant Resident: Why did you call them Sam and Prin?
    ContreCourant Resident: Are they the names of your cats in RL?
    Catrinamonblue Resident: no real reason, just came to me
    Catrinamonblue Resident: no :)
    Catrinamonblue Resident: in RL my cats are Princess, Xena and Bandit :)
    ContreCourant Resident: lol great names
    ContreCourant Resident: sound like TV stars
    Eos Amaterasu: very cat names

    ContreCourant Resident: Do you have pets Eos?
    Eos Amaterasu: not at the moment. I have had cats, and a dog
    ContreCourant Resident: I wish I could have a dog
    Eos Amaterasu: a pygmy elephant would be my ideal pet / companion
    ContreCourant Resident: tries to imagine why
    ContreCourant Resident: they would never forget you?
    Eos Amaterasu: for example, he/she could go to the fridge and bring me a beer, when we're watching a movie
    Catrinamonblue Resident: lol
    Eos Amaterasu: I'd have to get round sneakers for the elephants
    ContreCourant Resident: hmmm using its trunk? Wjat is the advantage of having an elephants?
    Eos Amaterasu: its trunk is very handy
    ContreCourant Resident: could do the vacuuming
    Eos Amaterasu: the thing about elephants is they are very social and family oriented, so would need more of their tribe around
    Eos Amaterasu: but that would be good for human beings
    Catrinamonblue Resident: is dying on the floor laughing at you two :O)
    Eos Amaterasu: harumpf!
    ContreCourant Resident: hmmm how would you feel about a family of pygmy elephants?
    ContreCourant Resident: in your living room
    Eos Amaterasu: well, I'd need a large living room
    Eos Amaterasu: perhaps I would visit them in their living room
    ContreCourant Resident: smiles
    Catrinamonblue Resident: Druth just told me he wants 1 ft high elephants 4
    ContreCourant Resident: 4 elephants?
    Catrinamonblue Resident: sorry typo the 4 wasn't supposed to be there :)
    ContreCourant Resident waves at druth
    Eos Amaterasu: 1 ft high is somewhat small
    ContreCourant Resident: bigger than a pygmy
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :) Druth waves back from RL
    ContreCourant Resident: smiles
    Eos Amaterasu: 3 to 4 feet high would be all right
    Eos Amaterasu: can go food shopping together
    ContreCourant Resident: Is she watching over your shoulder?
    Catrinamonblue Resident: yes because I'm laghing so much
    Eos Amaterasu: ~~ Druth!
    ContreCourant Resident: you could put the groceries on their backs
    Eos Amaterasu: yes
    Eos Amaterasu: give them shopping lists
    ContreCourant Resident: attach the lists to their tails


    --BELL--


    Eos Amaterasu: any thought on this week's theme of "be prepared"?
    Catrinamonblue Resident: Druth tries to avoid being prepared :)
    ContreCourant Resident: ??
    Catrinamonblue Resident: I'm the planner of the household :)
    ContreCourant Resident: What do you plan?
    ContreCourant Resident: meals?
    Catrinamonblue Resident: the budget, vacations, car maintenance and yeas meals too
    ContreCourant Resident: what is the theme discussion for this week?
    Catrinamonblue Resident: we are changing that now though and she is learning to take care of some planning, preparation type stuff
    ContreCourant Resident: ah being prepared. sorry
    Eos Amaterasu: (theme for this week is "be prepared")
    Eos Amaterasu: I guess one sense of being prepared is seeing the road ahead
    Eos Amaterasu: even though every detail cannot be seen
    ContreCourant Resident: I try and be prepared for other things too, like learning new things, avoiding disasters, putting on clean underwear
    Eos Amaterasu: be pre-weared
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: there's something there
    Eos Amaterasu: if you can take care of yourself, your stance and state of mind / intention
    Eos Amaterasu: that's reallly all you can do about meeting the world
    ContreCourant Resident: I would like to be prepared for new adventures. Someone said that in order to be really prepared you have to be ready to move quickly like having your bags packed when the elevator doors open
    ContreCourant Resident: sometimes they open and your ags aren't packed
    ContreCourant Resident: other times your bags are packed and the never seem to open
    ContreCourant Resident: I would like to be ready if a loved one dies, or a friend leaves the city or I loose something vauable
    ContreCourant Resident: psychologically prepared
    Catrinamonblue Resident: being prepared for the end - having a will made - something I have yet to do
    ContreCourant Resident: detached maybe
    Eos Amaterasu: living in transition
    ContreCourant Resident: yes Eos
    Eos Amaterasu: in perspective bigger than our lifetimes
    ContreCourant Resident: being prepared to live without answers or with uncertainty
    Eos Amaterasu: inside that perspective in tiny details
    ContreCourant Resident: say more?
    Catrinamonblue Resident: being prepared for chaos?
    ContreCourant Resident: yes- trying to be calm within it
    Catrinamonblue Resident: though chaos finds you and shakes your life upside down
    Eos Amaterasu: both order and chaos
    Catrinamonblue Resident: don;t know how prepared you can be for that
    ContreCourant Resident: yes - it's a challenge to be calm strong and stable

    ContreCourant Resident: resilient
    Catrinamonblue Resident: I'm not as resilient as I used to be :(
    ContreCourant Resident: I have been reading a book about the Emotional Life of the Brain
    ContreCourant Resident: one of the emotions he defines is resilience
    Catrinamonblue Resident: listens
    ContreCourant Resident: to be calm when the world falls apart
    ContreCourant Resident: It takes practice.
    ContreCourant Resident: through meditation, he says
    Eos Amaterasu: to bend with the energy, which finds your center
    ContreCourant Resident: and in trying to find yourself you can then loose yourself, let go


    --BELL--


    ContreCourant Resident: stop clinging
    Catrinamonblue Resident: clinging...... that's me right now...... holding tight to the things I can....trying to hold onto some control in a situation out of control.......and failing miserably
    Catrinamonblue Resident: hurting myself in the meantime
    Catrinamonblue Resident: and others
    ContreCourant Resident: I'm sorry
    Eos Amaterasu: ouch
    ContreCourant Resident: ((Cat))
    Catrinamonblue Resident: it is what it is and I'm trying to learn new and different ways to deal because what I'm doing isn't working
    Catrinamonblue Resident: and so I come here and learn from all of you
    Catrinamonblue Resident: different things that can help
    ContreCourant Resident: The challenge is to first be strong in yourself
    Catrinamonblue Resident: you all help me so much
    ContreCourant Resident: you mean people in PaB?
    Catrinamonblue Resident: yes PaB
    Catrinamonblue Resident: I have met some really loving people here
    ContreCourant Resident: It is a very nurturing community
    Catrinamonblue Resident: and have been learning about meditation and droppping
    Catrinamonblue Resident: slowing down
    Catrinamonblue Resident: which is very hard for me
    ContreCourant Resident: It's hard for most of us
    ContreCourant Resident: I dont come to PaB very often
    ContreCourant Resident: but explore many of the Buddhist plaes in SL
    Catrinamonblue Resident: SL is very new to me and this was the first place I really got to know so here I am :)
    ContreCourant Resident: there are many places here that are supportive. But yu are right, I think PaB is special
    Eos Amaterasu: It's a good place, cared for by good people :-)
    Eos Amaterasu: who care for people
    Eos Amaterasu: and the openness and awareness that gives rise to care
    Catrinamonblue Resident: yes that is the feeling I have gotten here
    Eos Amaterasu: a not-ignoring awareness
    Eos Amaterasu: but also not pushing away, or trying to suck in
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    ContreCourant Resident: listening, paying attention, empathizing
    Eos Amaterasu: life isn't all bliss, so whatever it is right now is the working ground
    Eos Amaterasu: or playground
    ContreCourant Resident: :-)
    ContreCourant Resident: sometimes you fall off the monkey bars
    Catrinamonblue Resident: playground it is :)
    Catrinamonblue Resident: yes and you get back up
    Catrinamonblue Resident: dust youself off and move on
    ContreCourant Resident: all over again..."
    Eos Amaterasu: "you lose yourself, you re-appear, you suddenly find you have nothing to fear..."
    Catrinamonblue Resident: fear is the big thing
    Catrinamonblue Resident: the one that dominates
    ContreCourant Resident: what are you afraid of?
    ContreCourant Resident: what is your biggest fear?
    Catrinamonblue Resident: being alone
    Catrinamonblue Resident: lost
    ContreCourant Resident: yes- that's pretty basic isn't it?
    Catrinamonblue Resident: yes
    ContreCourant Resident: but, we are always alone in some ways
    ContreCourant Resident: even in a crowd
    Eos Amaterasu: even when alone
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Paradise

    ContreCourant Resident: we need an anchor to stop the freefall
    Eos Amaterasu: washing the dishes

    ContreCourant Resident: Hello Paradise
    Paradise Tennant: hiya eos contre cat :)) smiles and listens
    Catrinamonblue Resident: I'm sorry guys didn't mean to take over the conversation
    ContreCourant Resident: smiles
    ContreCourant Resident: not at all
    Eos Amaterasu: attending to the real little details
    Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Paradise
    ContreCourant Resident: they are big details I think
    ContreCourant Resident: fear of being alone
    Eos Amaterasu: there are real concerns, in a "prepare" sort of way
    ContreCourant Resident: beautiful dress Paradise
    Eos Amaterasu: like getting old, alone
    ContreCourant Resident: listens to Eos
    ContreCourant Resident: yes- a big fear
    Paradise Tennant: smiles at conre :)
    Paradise Tennant: contre :)
    ContreCourant Resident: vulnerable and powerless
    ContreCourant Resident: smiles at Paradise
    Eos Amaterasu: so in our worlds, somewhat together in SL, less so in RL, we can be somewhat there for each other


    --BELL--


    ContreCourant Resident: Alone together
    Eos Amaterasu: there's a kind of mystery in that aloneness, that we can honor in each other
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :) thank you guys so much for everything
    Paradise Tennant: yes
    Paradise Tennant: it is mystery all the way down :))
    Paradise Tennant: alluding to those turtles :))
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: "so happy together...."
    Catrinamonblue Resident: I am trying to learn how to be by myself
    Catrinamonblue Resident: to know that I am ok just me
    ContreCourant Resident: good for you!
    ContreCourant Resident: How are you doing that?
    Catrinamonblue Resident: it's hard
    Catrinamonblue Resident: having time alone
    Eos Amaterasu: it's funny how we're kind of allergic to ourselves
    Catrinamonblue Resident: yes :)
    Catrinamonblue Resident: I look at myself and think I don't know you

    ContreCourant Resident: Maybe go on a trip by yourself - get to know you
    Eos Amaterasu: I think doing a solitary retreat, just you yourself along with yourself, even for one day, is an amazing gift to give yourself

    Catrinamonblue Resident: hard to with a family and job but I'm taking some time for myself here and there
    Eos Amaterasu: alone with yourself
    Wol Euler: evening all
    ContreCourant Resident: nods enthusiastically
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Wol!
    Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Wol :)
    ContreCourant Resident: Hello Wol
    Catrinamonblue Resident: I love to go for walks in the woods
    Catrinamonblue Resident: before I would drag the whole family
    Catrinamonblue Resident: now I go by myself
    ContreCourant Resident: yes- I'm never lonely in nature

    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Stevenaia
    stevenaia Michinaga: waves
    Paradise Tennant: smiles at wol :)
    Wol Euler: hello stevie
    ContreCourant Resident: Hello Stevenaia
    stevenaia Michinaga: hi Wol, up late?
    Paradise Tennant: smiles at stev :)
    Eos Amaterasu looks at his watch, arches eyebrow at Wol
    Wol Euler: nearly 5am, awake again :/
    Wol Euler: yeah
    ContreCourant Resident: do you always wake at 5am?
    stevenaia Michinaga: sounds like me at the 1:00 am session
    Wol Euler: only when I eat too much too rich food too late in the evening
    ContreCourant Resident: I have never wanted to go
    Wol Euler: and yes, I do know that this happens :(
    Wol Euler is an idiot.
    ContreCourant Resident: lol. She is?
    Paradise Tennant: hmm depends on the rich food sometimes .. indulgence .. is earned :))
    Eos Amaterasu: but the rich food was so yummy :-)
    stevenaia Michinaga: hard to avoid what tastes so good
    Wol Euler: harder still to learn from experience
    Wol Euler: anyway :) please continue
    ContreCourant Resident: why is it all the yummy things are bad for you?
    Eos Amaterasu: we're generally meandering on the topic of "be prepared", currently exploring our loneliness together

    ContreCourant Resident: where can I get horns like yours Wol?
    Wol Euler: I'l give you a set :)
    Eos Amaterasu: those turtles are singing, "so lonely together ..."
    ContreCourant Resident: I need to be prepared for christmas
    stevenaia Michinaga: thought they were antlers
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    ContreCourant Resident: and an onslaaaaaaaaaught of gaaiety
    Wol Euler: anybody else want'em?
    Catrinamonblue Resident: me me me
    ContreCourant Resident: antlers, horns, whatever
    Eos Amaterasu: hmm, yes :-)
    ContreCourant Resident: oh yes please
    stevenaia Michinaga: lol
    Eos Amaterasu: thnx!
    Catrinamonblue Resident: thnx
    Catrinamonblue Resident: yay!!!!
    ContreCourant Resident: lol. I twinkle
    Wol Euler: the item is a freebie, and I scripted the blinking colour-change bulbs
    ContreCourant Resident: wonder what Sam and Prin think
    Catrinamonblue Resident: they think it's great fun
    ContreCourant Resident: I'm impressed Wol. I should take one of the courses they offer in SL and learn how to do these things
    ContreCourant Resident: Talking about being prepared...
    Wol Euler: I can recommend NCI, New Citizens Incorporated
    Wol Euler: good baseline courses

    Catrinamonblue Resident: gtg have an early morning need to get some sleep.
    ContreCourant Resident: New Citizens of SL?
    Wol Euler: yep
    Catrinamonblue Resident: night all and my thanks
    stevenaia Michinaga: night Catrin
    Wol Euler: bye catrina, take care
    ContreCourant Resident: Bye Cat (may I call you Cat?)
    Catrinamonblue Resident: yes you can call me cat ")
    Eos Amaterasu: ciao cat
    ContreCourant Resident: :-)
    Paradise Tennant: ntie nite cat
    ContreCourant Resident: ciao cat
    ContreCourant Resident: may cat is snoring behind me as I type
    ContreCourant Resident: my cat
    Eos Amaterasu: purrfect
    ContreCourant Resident: what's it like being up at 5AM Wol? Dark and lonely? or peaceful and quiet
    Wol Euler: since you ask, it's full of painful indigestion and a burning feeling in the oesophagus.
    ContreCourant Resident: owww
    Eos Amaterasu: hmm
    Wol Euler: yes, it is dark, will be for another three hours yet
    ContreCourant Resident: hands Wol 5 Tums
    Paradise Tennant: my what did you eat ?
    ContreCourant Resident: and some yogurt


    --BELL--


    Paradise Tennant: nite nite contre :))
    ContreCourant Resident: whispers, nite nite
    Eos Amaterasu: ciao Contre
    ContreCourant Resident: sorry
    Eos Amaterasu: bye all, and thanks - good night! (and good morning)
    Wol Euler: pizza and beer, too late and too much
    stevenaia Michinaga: when I wake up for the 1:00 am session (4:00 am my time) I think I will sit quietly and end up babbling for an hour or more
    Paradise Tennant: nite nite eos thank you
    Wol Euler: goodnight eos
    stevenaia Michinaga: bye Eos
    Paradise Tennant: very seldom wake up that early unless there is a storm
    Paradise Tennant: last night stayed up very late reading a very good novel :))
    Paradise Tennant: am paying for it tonight
    stevenaia Michinaga: there's always ...sleep :)
    Paradise Tennant: yes :))
    Wol Euler: I don't trust myself to lie down again yet
    Wol Euler: ditto eating anything, even yoghurt
    Paradise Tennant: mint tea ?
    Paradise Tennant: that calms your tummy
    Wol Euler: hmmmm, dunno if I have mint. Perhaps just some "white tea"
    Wol Euler: brb
    stevenaia Michinaga: I usually avoid liquids as it tends to extend (dilute0 the tummy pain for me
    stevenaia Michinaga: eventually it passes, but my tummy is good to me
    Paradise Tennant: nice to be friends with you tummy
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, likes spicy food too :)
    Wol Euler: I'd have had no trouble with this if I'd started about three hours earlier
    stevenaia Michinaga: pizza and peer, I hope it was shared with friends
    stevenaia Michinaga: *beer
    Wol Euler: alas no, I was in the office until 10:30, picked them up on the way home
    Wol Euler: should have left it alone
    stevenaia Michinaga: lolnods
    Paradise Tennant: that is late wol I left at 8 pm and I thought that was late
    stevenaia Michinaga: scratch the" lol"
    stevenaia Michinaga: I usually just pck up the laptop and continue at home with kitty keeping me warm
    Paradise Tennant: civilized and makes for a happy fubu
    Wol Euler smiles.
    stevenaia Michinaga: and a warm stevie
    stevenaia Michinaga: wish he would lay on my feet
    Wol Euler grins.
    Paradise Tennant: cat water bottle
    stevenaia Michinaga: but the power supply is warm
    stevenaia Michinaga: so you slept and it woke you up, or you never got to bed?
    Wol Euler: slept for three hours or so
    Paradise Tennant: what time do you leave for the office
    stevenaia Michinaga: hugs Wol
    Wol Euler: I started at 10 yesterday, going to be later today
    Paradise Tennant: smiles and hugs wol and stev :)) group hug :)
    Wol Euler: yay
    Paradise Tennant: so maybe time for 3 or 4 more hours of sleep
    Wol Euler: as soon as I can trust myself to lie down, yep
    Paradise Tennant: sounds a bit lie acid reflex
    Paradise Tennant: like
    Wol Euler: very much so, yes


    --BELL--


    stevenaia Michinaga: Paradise must have an interent solution to wol's stomach
    stevenaia Michinaga: *internet
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    Paradise Tennant: actually was surfing for just that
    Paradise Tennant: mostly they suggest tums
    Paradise Tennant: or another anti acid
    Wol Euler: ha
    Wol Euler: this isn't New York, can't even buy gasoline at 4am in Germany
    stevenaia Michinaga: I bet backing soda would help in water
    Wol Euler: except on the autobauh, obviuosly
    Wol Euler: but I might get some tomorow
    stevenaia Michinaga: a peruvian friend tells me it cures almost everything
    stevenaia Michinaga: *baking
    Wol Euler: my father swore by, and at, the mixture
    Wol Euler: called it "cat's piss" :)
    Paradise Tennant: do you hava any ginger ? ginger tea made with fresh or dried ginger calms your tummy
    Paradise Tennant: gingerale even if it is made from real ginger
    Wol Euler: no ginger, but I did find some (old) mint tea
    Paradise Tennant: there we go :))
    stevenaia Michinaga: weak tea is good
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Wol Euler sips and smiles.
    stevenaia Michinaga: wehave so many tempting leftover, chocolate cake, Halavah, cookies
    Paradise Tennant: smiles any latkes ?
    Paradise Tennant: stev and his wife threw a great latke party :))
    stevenaia Michinaga: they were gone quickly
    stevenaia Michinaga: there's an amusing vid on my fb page
    stevenaia Michinaga: if yu like dueling accordians
    Wol Euler: :)
    Paradise Tennant: looked like eveyone had a great time :)) can tell by the volume of the people talking :))
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, good reports from all
    Paradise Tennant: smiles lots of work and then it seems to fly by I bet
    stevenaia Michinaga: planning, not work :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: hard to call it work when drinking is involved
    Paradise Tennant: that makes it go faster I think :)))
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, many empty bottles :)
    Paradise Tennant: yes noticed that on my urban adventure weekend was astounded at how many empty wine bottles I took out ))


    --BELL--


    stevenaia Michinaga: nice when you have friends to help
    Paradise Tennant: the same group have been getting together for years this year we all had to have a nap on the saturday lol that was a first :))
    Wol Euler: heheheh
    stevenaia Michinaga: isn't age interesting
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Wol Euler: all part of Life's rich tapestry, they tell us
    Paradise Tennant: yes we use to ski all day .. make a big dinner a big fire talk and carry on till 3 am then be up and 7 am to ski all day :))
    Paradise Tennant: yes life is a tapestry and we are but threads :))
    Paradise Tennant: smiles I am a little one which seems to be unravelling so I think I will have to say good night ..they discourage napping in the office :))
    Wol Euler: goodnight, para, nice to see you in your normal habitat (timezone :)
    Paradise Tennant: nice to see you wol hope you feel better soon and settle back down for a few more hours of sleep
    Paradise Tennant: nite nite stev :))
    Wol Euler: I should try to sleep again too, thanks
    Paradise Tennant: sweet dreams to you both
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, falling asleep with a mouse in your hand at work mean naptime for me
    stevenaia Michinaga: night Para
    Wol Euler: it's a strong clue :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes I can usually take a 20 minute nap on the floor comfortably
    Wol Euler: lucky
    Wol Euler: our office is too draughty for that to be comfortable
    stevenaia Michinaga: office mate is amazed
    stevenaia Michinaga: we have some nice orientals
    Wol Euler wonders what that means
    stevenaia Michinaga: what what means?
    Wol Euler: nice orientals
    stevenaia Michinaga: oriental carpets
    Wol Euler: ah :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: smiles
    stevenaia Michinaga: makes napping comfy
    Wol Euler: all right, I'm going to risk lieing down
    Wol Euler: take care, stevie
    stevenaia Michinaga: move slowly... noght Wol
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Wol Euler: goodnight

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