2011.07.03 01:00 - Taking responsibility

The Guardian for this meeting was No Self. The comments are by No Self.

Agatha Macbeth: Good mornin@ :)
Hokon Cazalet: hiya =)
Hokon Cazalet: thats a cool outfit
Agatha Macbeth: Insomnia again?
Hokon Cazalet: hehe =)
Agatha Macbeth: Thankk you :)
Hokon Cazalet: =)
Agatha Macbeth: Hi QT
Qt Core: hi all
Hokon Cazalet: hiya
Agatha Macbeth: Dunno where Wol is: she's online
Agatha Macbeth: Probably getting changed :p
Agatha Macbeth: I'll hold it til she arrives
Wol Euler: hello all,sorry I'm late
Agatha Macbeth: Ah here you are!
Hokon Cazalet: Weeee! ^.^
Hokon Cazalet: hi =)
Qt Core: Hi Wol
Agatha Macbeth: Thanks, I was holding it for you :)
Wol Euler: yeah, I got caught up and lost track of the time
Agatha Macbeth: Thought you couldn't decide what to put on ;-)
Wol Euler: that too
Agatha Macbeth: :)
Hokon Cazalet: hehe
Wol Euler: I see you had no such problem,though
Agatha Macbeth: How do you whisper a smile?
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, no
Wol Euler: quietly?
Agatha Macbeth: I guess
Agatha Macbeth: No antlers this morning?
Wol Euler: nor fur
Wol Euler: human for a day
Agatha Macbeth: Right
Agatha Macbeth: Ha
Wol Euler: or perhaps less
Agatha Macbeth grins
Wol Euler: so, what's new?
Agatha Macbeth: The day?
Agatha Macbeth: That's about it thus far
--BELL--
Agatha Macbeth: What page of the wiki is the calendar on please?
Wol Euler: good q
Agatha Macbeth: Damn, I'll have to trawl it
Agatha Macbeth: Just wondered if anything was happening today
Wol Euler: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/Events/Calendar?highlight=calendar
Wol Euler: guardian meeting at 8am, but nothing else listed
Qt Core: speaking about new things...i just started to read a book, a long overdue reading, Brave new world by Huxley, i've only read a couple dozen pages and i'm already pretty scared and amazed
Agatha Macbeth: Ah: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/Events/Calendar
Wol Euler: nice, qt
Wol Euler: what brought you to it?
Hokon Cazalet: i read that book as a young teen, powerful book
Agatha Macbeth: Oh, good read QT :)
Qt Core: mostly having read 1984 decades ago and having it always mentioned alongside it
Agatha Macbeth: Yep
Wol Euler nods.
Agatha Macbeth: That didn't turn out too true tho :p
Hokon Cazalet: =)
Wol Euler: fortunately
Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
Wol Euler: perhaps it didn't come true, in part, because teh book was written
Qt Core: 1984 was scary but you know, a little imrobable, Huxley's work (for what i've read) seems more probable (new scientific development aside), so more scary
Wol Euler: hello yaku
Yakuzza Lethecus: good morning everyone
Agatha Macbeth: Hiya Yak
Qt Core: hi Yaku
Hokon Cazalet: yeah ive always found brave new world more beliavble
Wol Euler: really? I found 1984 far more believable as a possible future
Hokon Cazalet: hi yakuzza
Wol Euler: I can more easily see the world sliding into fascism than into technological joy
Agatha Macbeth: Oh, quite easily
Wol Euler: (talking about "1984" and "Brave New World")
Agatha Macbeth remembers Toyah's song
Wol Euler doesn't.
Agatha Macbeth: Brave new world: no?
Wol Euler: not by name; hum a few bars?
Agatha Macbeth: About 81 I think
Zaldaan Sirnah: Morning.
Agatha Macbeth: One of her later ones
Hokon Cazalet: hi zaldaan
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Zal
Wol Euler: apropos future: http://www.savagechickens.com/2010/0...rspective.html
Yakuzza Lethecus: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Ha
Yakuzza Lethecus: idealization of the past, yes :)
Qt Core: i can see one transvestite as the other
Agatha Macbeth: It's enough to make Doug savage
Wol Euler: heh
Qt Core: as in fascism/dictatorship seeming to be the perfectr joyous society
Wol Euler nods.
Agatha Macbeth: Mussolini would probably agree! :D
Zaldaan Sirnah: Hi Hokon. Aggers.
Wol Euler: the odd and worrying thing is that they do work quite well, for most people - until they suddenly don't work at all
Qt Core: after all most dictator start with the idea of making the country a better place
Wol Euler: and then all hell breaks loose
Agatha Macbeth smiles
Wol Euler nods.
Wol Euler: the problem is the definition of "better" and what means they think acceptable to get there
Zaldaan Sirnah: many misunderstandings and wrong steps
Wol Euler: Stalin thought it acceptable to kill around 20 million farming peasants to arrive at socialized landholding
Zaldaan Sirnah: how is one to make peace when they do not know true peace themselves?
Agatha Macbeth: Well he would
Qt Core: even horrible things like racial cleanings start with the idea of making the country better
--BELL--
Urantia Plutonian: :3
Qt Core: sadly i have to go, bye all
Wol Euler: bye qt
Zaldaan Sirnah: me too.. afk.
Hokon Cazalet: aww bye, urantia is a friend of mine =)
Wol Euler: hello urantia, have you been here before?
Urantia Plutonian: Hi all :)
Urantia Plutonian: No.. this is my first time
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Urantia
Wol Euler: ok, I'll give you a notecard and a brief introduction in IM
Urantia Plutonian: ok
Wol Euler: but first: it occured to me during hte break: the real issue comes before "making htings better"
Wol Euler: the real issue is the belief that "our problems are not our fault"
Agatha Macbeth: Or supposedly making things better
Wol Euler: "we would be perfectly happy if 9it were not for the jews/muslims/hindus/arabs/left-handed people"
Agatha Macbeth: Yep
Agatha Macbeth: And it's basically just people pandering to their own bigotry
Wol Euler: yep
Wol Euler: and also, important, not taking responsibility for their lives
Wol Euler: "it's not my fault"
Wol Euler: "we were cheated"
Agatha Macbeth: Hence the attraction of a srtong-willed leader
Yakuzza Lethecus: left handed are the worst!
Agatha Macbeth: *strong
Wol Euler nods.
Agatha Macbeth: Urantia, Sunday 1AMs are usually quiet sessions, you don't get much of a feel for PaB from them :p
Wol Euler chuckles.
Wol Euler: yes, the different times have different flavours
Urantia Plutonian: Ah thanks:)
Wol Euler: 7pm SL time is very serious
Yakuzza Lethecus: but these are the things that drag one into interest in philosophy, a democratic state often feels stuck since sometimes you gain the feeling that everyone tries to block everything of the other side in politics and it feels like no progress but at least everyone takes part and decides about the burden the society should carry at least in an ideal form
Agatha Macbeth: The 7 AMs seem to be the most vibrant I belkieve
Agatha Macbeth: -k
Wol Euler: heh
Agatha Macbeth: Too early in the day for me to ponder all that yaku :p
Yakuzza Lethecus: but with a central government without opposition whom don´t have to struggle with their opposition there seems that the ppl don´t have to say anything but the system get things done, i think that is what attracts ppl right now to the chinese government, they get things done, but the ppl have very little to say in a democratic way as it seems for us westerners
Wol Euler nods.
Wol Euler: "getting things done" is vastly overrated :) and oversimplified too
Agatha Macbeth: The Chinese people don't need democracy to ruin everything for them :)
Wol Euler: they get things done by people being basically homeless, sleeping in the factories where they work
Wol Euler: they get things done by ruining their environment even faster than we are spoiling ours
Wol Euler: thy get things done by absolute control of the media, including internet.
Agatha Macbeth: Plus they have almost unlimited personpower
Agatha Macbeth: 1 bilion plus
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: I don't know what you alll are talking about, but I already disagree with it. lol
Wol Euler: heh
Wol Euler: no surprise there :)
MaryMagdeleine Shilling winks at wol
Wol Euler: hello mary, have a seat
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Thanks, Wol
--BELL--
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Mary, how's Jesus? :p
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: He's *perfect* lol
Agatha Macbeth heads to the kitchen
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: The perfect man always makes me hungry too.
Yakuzza Lethecus: well as i understood it they have problems in the coastal area´s now to find workers because the government started to develop the innter much faster and ppl don´t go to the coastal area´s even tho they could make a bit more money on the sacrafice of family´s, so of course there are ,,isses" but actually i have a very positive feeling to some extend, but sure not everything is gold
Agatha Macbeth: back
Wol Euler: wb
Yakuzza Lethecus: wb
Agatha Macbeth: My mouse is acting funny again
Wol Euler: too much mouldy cheese?
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Give it some catnip.
Agatha Macbeth: Could be
Hokon Cazalet: hehe
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Wol, similar idea
Yakuzza Lethecus i´d like to have a mouse that can act
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: So what's with the veil and Free Woman outfit, Aggers?
Agatha Macbeth: Eh?
Agatha Macbeth: I just bought it, so I'm trying it on
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: It looks good; I have a similar one, wore it at one sim, and got kicked out for nudity. I think it's becuase my ankles were showing.
Agatha Macbeth: You're kidding?
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: No, I'm not; well, about the ankles part
Agatha Macbeth: Some folks are plain weird
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: I think they just expected me to be naked, so kicked me out nyway. Got banned when I circualated a picture that showed what I was wearing.
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: That really ticked them off.
Agatha Macbeth: Oops
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Wierd? In SL? naw, that can't be it.
Agatha Macbeth: I like what you have on now...
Wol Euler smiles.
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: ty, Aggers. Me too.
Agatha Macbeth: Inexpensive
Wol Euler: hard to get it to fit right, though.
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Aren't these feet adorable? Almost perfect match.
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Wol, lol
Agatha Macbeth: Ha
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Well, that's true of the feet.
Wol Euler: mine always bunches up in odd places
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Yoiu're feet?
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Or your bare bodkin?
Wol Euler: my what-you-are-wearing :)
Agatha Macbeth: Well you have a very unique shape dear
Wol Euler: an attempt at an extended joke
MaryMagdeleine Shilling laughs
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: I know.
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: lol
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: bodkin,, btw, actually means knife, but people use it to mean body
Agatha Macbeth: Mm, I knew it was something pointy
Wol Euler chuckles.
MaryMagdeleine Shilling hides her nipples at Agger's remark
Agatha Macbeth: :)
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Not that I'm saying it's cold here, or anything.
Agatha Macbeth: Pointy nipples are cute
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: So you all were talking China?
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Aggers, ty!
Agatha Macbeth: yw :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: well about 1984 before
Agatha Macbeth: And Brave new world
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: The year or the book?
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: oh, ok, dytopias
Agatha Macbeth: yep
Yakuzza Lethecus: a thing that i thought was very interesting this morning was the discovery of a 7,7 trillion € in india
Yakuzza Lethecus: http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/0,1518,772021,00.html
Yakuzza Lethecus: sry digging the english one
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: I think Brave New World was more prescient than 1984. Amarik wrote "Will the Soveit Empire last to 1984?" And it lasted to 1989. But we are grdaully going into brave New World
--BELL--
Yakuzza Lethecus: billion
Yakuzza Lethecus: sry
Agatha Macbeth: Well, they could certainly spend it on worse things...
Agatha Macbeth: (and usually do)
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: What are they spending it on?
Yakuzza Lethecus: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43621678..._central_asia/
Agatha Macbeth: A temple apparently
Yakuzza Lethecus: i hope to nothing
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: The Chinese are spending a billion dollars on a temple?
Yakuzza Lethecus: thince it´s historical jewlery
Agatha Macbeth: Oh, thought it was India
Wol Euler points to Yaku's link
Wol Euler: it is India
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: I have no idea what we're talkig about
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Agatha Macbeth: Me either!
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Oh, well, India spending a billion dollars on a temple makes sense
Agatha Macbeth is lost
Wol Euler: so read the effin' story
Wol Euler: and be found
Agatha Macbeth: Well, we seem to be talking about India and China at the same time
Agatha Macbeth: And Brave new world
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Well, I can halluncinate all sorts of connections, so ok.
Agatha Macbeth: I didn't see Urantia go
Wol Euler: she slipped off silently some time back
Hokon Cazalet: shje had to go quickly
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Agatha Macbeth: Probably thinks we're all mad
Hokon Cazalet: hehe
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Urantia left a couple minutes after I arrived.
Agatha Macbeth: Oh, ok
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Aggers, that's probabl it.
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: And she wouldn't be *that* far off. lol
Agatha Macbeth: Ha
Agatha Macbeth: Well, one never knows
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: That's an interesting AO you have aggers, if I tried sitting with mine, all sorts of wierd things might happen.
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: One time i sank into a chair, so only my boobs were visible.
Agatha Macbeth: It conflicts sometimes, but if I switch it off and back on it seems ok
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: now, *that* was a wierd sight.
Agatha Macbeth: Mary, when are Rhi's sessions usually?
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: I just switcch mine off when I sit, unless it's a g round sit.
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: *groiund
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Wed at 11:30 slt and Fri at 6:00pm slt
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, thanks
Agatha Macbeth: Cos Alessa's been a couple of times and the place ws empty
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: And she may start on on Sat at 1:30pm slt
Agatha Macbeth: Ok, thx
Agatha Macbeth: I'll pass it on :)
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: She will get notices, if she's a member of the group.
Agatha Macbeth nods. I think it had been rescheduled or something
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: yeah, and soon her FL schedule will change, so her SL schedule will change; and one new sim owner wants to pay her for guest appearances.
Agatha Macbeth: Wow, nice
Wol Euler nods.
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: yeah, he wants to build up his sim.
Agatha Macbeth: Hope it's M-rated [grin]
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: He already has decent trffic, although he hasn't really opened it yet.
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: lol
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: ACtually, hes, M rated.
Agatha Macbeth: Sounds good
Agatha Macbeth: Take Gilles along with you :p
--BELL--
Agatha Macbeth: He'll enetertain 'em
Wol Euler: /chortles
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: He wanted to avoid A rating beccause he wanted it open to all; and G, as he wanted Rhiannon and he wanted free wheeling discussion, clubs, and so on.
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Who is Gilles?
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Buffy's mentor?
Agatha Macbeth: Gilles Kuhn?
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: oh, Gilles Kuhn. Right
Wol Euler: ah, you have a treat in store :)
Agatha Macbeth: Thought you knew him
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Actually, that is an excellent idea, mykos is lookig for other speakers.
Agatha Macbeth: Well life's never dull when he's around
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: I do, it's just that, as he's on summer hiaturs, I don't think about him much
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Don't tell him that; it may crush his ego. lol
Agatha Macbeth: I think he just wanted to get away from us loonies!
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: No, he wanted to tour Europe
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, even better
Agatha Macbeth: Working today Wol?
Wol Euler: yeah, after lunch
Agatha Macbeth: Aw
Wol Euler: but only a few hours
Agatha Macbeth smiles
Wol Euler: I have to be back in SL this evening, for an interview with Lumi
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: You work on Suday? Oh, that's right, you're under a deadline.
Wol Euler: yeah
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: An interview with Lumi?
Agatha Macbeth: Ooh, a job offer? :p
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Who's Lumi?
Wol Euler: nah
Agatha Macbeth: Thought you might be DJing at Fracture finally
Wol Euler: Luminis is a sociologist investigating gender and sexual identity, and how these are formed/expressed in virtual spaces
Wol Euler: well, I am working on that!
Agatha Macbeth: Heh
Wol Euler: actually it wouldn't be *me* but one of my many alts
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Oh, you might have her contact mne; with mny experiences in gender here in SL, it could be helpful to her.
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: It's amazing experience male privilege when I'm in a male avatar.
Wol Euler nods vigorously
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: I mean I've had expereinces that make it very clear that women are dissed in our culture; things that I just took for granted before don't happen when you're a guy.
Agatha Macbeth: How do you experience it particularly Mary?
Agatha Macbeth: Right
Wol Euler nods.
Agatha Macbeth: I can see that would piss you off
Agatha Macbeth: It would me
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Well, for example, there's this one sim, and it's not so much like this anymore, as they know me there; but if I went as a male, I could say "The world is flat," and one of the admins would go "Really; thats facinating; could you tell me more?" But a a woman, she'd say to my professing "2=2=4" "fuck you, no one believes that."
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: oh, it does piss me off.
Agatha Macbeth nods
Agatha Macbeth: Quite rightly so
Wol Euler: agreed
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: There were people who are respectful and even flirtitious with me as a male in one sim, and they attak any female avatar I have.
Wol Euler: I know people who changed gender in SL (F to M) because they weren't taken seriously on science sims
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, now that I *can* believe
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Wol, it took me months to fight for recognition in philosophy, and then--this is funny, one guy said he thought I had been hiding my knowledge all the time for sinsiter purposes.
Wol Euler snorts.
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Noooo. It's just that no one believed I had it.
Agatha Macbeth: Very, very sad...
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: One sim owner thought I was just a ditzy blonde, but as a male, well, that's different.
Agatha Macbeth: Well, yeah
Agatha Macbeth: 'It's all about appearances'
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: The wonderful thing about SL, though, is you can do experiments;. People in RL are always saying, well, it's not that females are treated differntlyh, it's blah, blah balah. But here youcan hold everything else constant and change your gender.
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: And it shows that it is gender.
Agatha Macbeth nods
Agatha Macbeth: And you don't get horny noobs coming along and going 'Oi' when you're trying to buy stuff
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: yes.
Agatha Macbeth: Now THAT is annoying
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: But then it does feel strange to buy clothes or hair as a male for your female avatar.
Agatha Macbeth grins
Wol Euler: well, actually ... I have a male alt who mentors at newbie areas. He gets propositioned all the time :)
--BELL--
Agatha Macbeth: By M or F?
Wol Euler: not as often as I did, but still ...
Wol Euler: both :))))
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Wo this is SL after all. lol
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: *Wol
Agatha Macbeth: But of course, one doesn't know the gender of the propositioner either...
Wol Euler: true, it's all just one big happy funfest
Agatha Macbeth: Innit just
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Well, I think SL gender should be accepted for what it is; saves a lotof paronoia.
Agatha Macbeth: Mmm
Wol Euler: yep
Wol Euler: treat people as they present
Wol Euler: animals too :)
Wol Euler: and robots
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: In RL, psychologists say that you should accept a person's gender self-designation; I think that is even more ture here.
Agatha Macbeth: Especially the horny ones :p
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: heh, and it's different when you'r an animal avi, too.
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: I went to one group discussion which always highly respected me; went as a ravan, and they ignored me.
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: I came back as a woman and everything was back to normal.
Agatha Macbeth: Birdophobia
Wol Euler: :)
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: And this is the funny thing--when I pointed it ut, they denied it.
Wol Euler: seen too many Hitchcock films
Agatha Macbeth: :DDD
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Wol, lol
Agatha Macbeth sees Mary fly down the chimney
Wol Euler: brb, coffee refill needed
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: 'Caw; caw!'
Agatha Macbeth throws you some bread
MaryMagdeleine Shilling prefers hen scratch
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: peck, peck, peck
Agatha Macbeth: Aww, don't have any :(
MaryMagdeleine Shilling flaps her wings angrily at Aggers' window
Agatha Macbeth: Did Hokon fall asleep or is she still with us?
Hokon Cazalet: hehe
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, right
Wol Euler: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Just checking
MaryMagdeleine Shilling waves her hand in front of Hokon's fce
Hokon Cazalet: :Þ
Agatha Macbeth dies from laughing....
MaryMagdeleine Shilling has her boyfriend raise Aggers from the dead
Agatha Macbeth: heehee
Agatha Macbeth: 'Lazarus come forth'
Agatha Macbeth: He came fifth
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Well, after three days, he wasn't just merely diead, he was really quite sincerely dead.
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: "He stinketh."
Agatha Macbeth holds her nose
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Now, you shouldn't talk about my brother like that; he can't help it; death does that to you. you should respect the dead.
Agatha Macbeth smiles
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: You do know that Lazarus was Mary Magdeleine's brother.
Agatha Macbeth: Er...probably
Wol Euler: huh, no.
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, i did
Agatha Macbeth: 9trying to think)
Agatha Macbeth: -9
Agatha Macbeth: +(
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: yeah, one of the gospel writers makes a point of saying, this was the Mary that annointed Jesus' feet and hair.
Agatha Macbeth: Well there were so many Marys
Agatha Macbeth: Almost as bad as Ireland :p
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Yes, so he made that poiint (Luke?) in order to designate
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Aggers, lol; or Jesus's in Mexicao
Agatha Macbeth: Ah yes, true
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Which is why it is a myth that Mary Magdeleine was a prostitute.
Wol Euler raises an eyebrow.
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Lazarus, Martha and Mary were obviously very wealthy and the wholde community came out for Lazarus' funeral
Agatha Macbeth: Isn't that just a mistranslation?
Wol Euler: interesting, I'll have to read that again
Yakuzza Lethecus: have a good night, day everyone
Wol Euler: bye yaku, take care
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Oh, no, Aggers, not a mistranslation; a deliberate misrepresentation by an early pope.
Agatha Macbeth: Bye for now Yaku
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: nige, yaku
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, because she was a woman I guess?
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: The Church finally repudiated that, along with their exhonoration of Galeleo
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Aggers, that's the modern theory; that that Pope was putting women in their plce
Agatha Macbeth: Well, it takes time, but they get there
--BELL--
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: yeah, a few centuries; slowly, slowly catchee monkee.
Agatha Macbeth: Slow but sure hopefully
Agatha Macbeth: Wonder if there really was a Pope Joan?
Hokon Cazalet: i need to go for the night, i got work later today =)
Hokon Cazalet: have a good day or night alls
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Good question. Wasn't that about the time there were two male popes; each excommunicated the other?
Wol Euler: bye hokon, take care
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Hok, sleep well
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: nite, hokon
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, Joanna Aquilla
Agatha Macbeth: From what I've read it's almost certainly a myth, but an interesting concept nontheless
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: heh. Wonder if she had to have a beard, like Hatshepsut, the female Pharoah
Agatha Macbeth: I'm surprised nobody has tried to claim he's descended from her and tried to become King of France
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: hmmm, these days, if you do that, they lock you away and give you pills.
Agatha Macbeth: It sells books tho :p
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: sure does
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: "Dreezle, drazzle, drazzle drome, time for this one to go home."
Wol Euler: hehe
Wol Euler: goodnight mary, sleep well
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: nite, Wol
Wol Euler: I should start cooking lunch
Agatha Macbeth: I should think it's already light there by now
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Aggers, nite; no still nice and dark.
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: Nite, Zal
Agatha Macbeth: Oh, ok
MaryMagdeleine Shilling: The strong, silent type.
Agatha Macbeth: Sleep tight
MaryMagdeleine Shilling waves and poofs
Agatha Macbeth: What's for dinner then?
Wol Euler: maultaschen (huge ravioli) with mushrooms, fried up into an omelette
Wol Euler: quick, chaep, easy, tasty
Agatha Macbeth: Plenty of protein too I would imagine
Wol Euler: yep
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: gets me through the day
Agatha Macbeth: Lets you type quicker
Wol Euler: yep
Agatha Macbeth smiles
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: anyway, time to go.
Agatha Macbeth: Snap
Wol Euler: enjoy your sundays, my dears.
Agatha Macbeth: Bye for now
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Zal