2011.07.06 19:00 - Open Evening

The Guardian for this meeting was stevenaia Michinaga. The comments are by stevenaia Michinaga

I was delayed at a RL event and would like thank ELiza and Paradise for assisting me with catching this evening's log

Eliza Madrigal: http://nobleharbor.com/tea/chado/WhatIsWabi-Sabi.htm

--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal: Hi Svara
Eliza Madrigal: Please join me if you like
Svara01 Resident: hi eliza!
Svara01 Resident: thank you
Eliza Madrigal: I'm not sure that we've met. Have you been here before?
Svara01 Resident: when i come in its always lonely :(
Eliza Madrigal: really? I'm sorry to hear that... maybe knowing the times there are meetins would help
Eliza Madrigal: someone is here almost always 1,7,1,7
Svara01 Resident: yes, of course
Eliza Madrigal: the group has been meeting that way for over three years :) This is a strangely quiet session I must say...
Eliza Madrigal: and odd for the usual guardian to be missing but things come up :)
Svara01 Resident: maybe they are late?
Svara01 Resident: what was the topic?
Eliza Madrigal: well we converse about all kinds of thins
Eliza Madrigal: *things
Eliza Madrigal: but generally 'nature of reality' type topics...
Eliza Madrigal: like time
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Kavi
Eliza Madrigal: The group is called Play as Being
Eliza Madrigal: Let me give you both a noe
Eliza Madrigal: Note*
Svara01 Resident: oh i see
Svara01 Resident: txs
Kavi01 Resident: hello eliza
Kavi01 Resident: ugh typing animation :(
Eliza Madrigal: :) SL is full of little frustrations, but mostly worth going through, hah
Kavi01 Resident: yes quite so
Kavi01 Resident: quiet evening today?
Eliza Madrigal: What do you enjoy here?
Eliza Madrigal: yes so far Kavi
Eliza Madrigal: we'll see... as the hour goes on more tend to check in. I was just saying that tonight seems unusually quiet...
Eliza Madrigal: thus the harp :))
Svara01 Resident: well im new here so as far as i can tell the place is beautiful hope the talks are as well
Eliza Madrigal: thank you, yes most of the area was designed by Storm Nordwind... a real treasure for the group
Eliza Madrigal: we have many wonderful talks
Kavi01 Resident: seems theres a lot of chat lag on out end
Svara01 Resident: yes very laggy
Eliza Madrigal: and lots of silliness too... so each session is quite different
Eliza Madrigal: What are you two interested in generally?
Kavi01 Resident: we both are interested in existance
Svara01 Resident: well i hope they come today so i can enjoy one sesion
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Kavi01 Resident: the nature of reality
Eliza Madrigal: may I ask what existence means to you?
Eliza Madrigal: Ah :)
Eliza Madrigal: I'd love to hear some of your inspirations
Kavi01 Resident: well i for 1 believe that what we call existance is mostly the product of our inner perceptions
Svara01 Resident: i think existance is experience mostly
Eliza Madrigal: that's interesting... both would imply a sort of 'presentness' maybe?
Kavi01 Resident: yes in a way
Svara01 Resident: exactly, like what we perceive is a collection of presents
Kavi01 Resident: its like this a word can have different meanings depending on the context of your own perceptions
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, enjoy the way you said that! collection of presents
Eliza Madrigal: mm, nods
Svara01 Resident: txs!
Eliza Madrigal: in a few minutes you'll notice a bell ring, btw...
Eliza Madrigal: we have a kind of practice of stopping then, sometimes to do explorations
Kavi01 Resident: thus trying to percieve and analize reality is quite difficult as u cand really do away with perception
Svara01 Resident: i see
Eliza Madrigal: and sometimes just to pause :) it will be 90 seconds :)
Svara01 Resident: ok
Eliza Madrigal: say more Kavi?
Kavi01 Resident: in physics theres the concept of uncertainty
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Kavi01 Resident: you cant really be sure of all as measuring tranforms the subject
Kavi01 Resident: observation changes reality
Kavi01 Resident: in a way perception is just that
Eliza Madrigal: uncapturable...
Svara01 Resident: totally personal
Kavi01 Resident: we view stuff though the eyes of our perception which mizes it with our own experiences
Kavi01 Resident: yes quite so svara
Svara01 Resident: amazing we can understand each other sometimes :)
Eliza Madrigal: yes! you know what you are both saying resonates strongly with my musings of late...
Kavi01 Resident: care to elaborate
Kavi01 Resident: ?
Eliza Madrigal: well, direct , immediate experience...
Eliza Madrigal: people tend to like to argue/debate about the way things are...

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Eliza Madrigal: far more interesting to share personal notes and stay open in the moment
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Paradise! :)
Svara01 Resident: hi paradise
Kavi01 Resident: hi paradise
Eliza Madrigal: Kavi, Svara and i have been having a very nice chat... I'll give you a note
Paradise Tennant: smiles hello .. eliza .. svara .. kavi :))
Kavi01 Resident: on the subject of arguing...
Kavi01 Resident: i just read a book that said
Kavi01 Resident: that what we usually call communicating
Kavi01 Resident: is half saying what you want
Kavi01 Resident: and half thinking what you will respond
Kavi01 Resident: thus
Kavi01 Resident: we dont tend to truly listen
Eliza Madrigal: a loop!
Kavi01 Resident: to what the other wanted to say
Paradise Tennant: yes indeed
Kavi01 Resident: seems your harp went poof
Kavi01 Resident: :)
Eliza Madrigal: :) yes
Paradise Tennant: sorry I would have come sooner but it so laggy took forever to get here :)
Eliza Madrigal: do you recall the title, Kavi?
Eliza Madrigal: no worries at all Paradise, nice to see you
Svara01 Resident: also for you? here its the same
Eliza Madrigal: maybe there are issues tonight
Eliza Madrigal: I seem to be okay
Kavi01 Resident: well its a book called
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Aphrodite :)
Kavi01 Resident: El conflicto en la pareja
Kavi01 Resident: conflict in couples
Kavi01 Resident: hello aphrodite
Paradise Tennant: smiles hiya aph :)
Aphrodite Macbain: Hello everyone
Aphrodite Macbain: GTSY all
Svara01 Resident: hi aphrodite
Paradise Tennant: thanks for the note eliza :)
Eliza Madrigal: most welcome :)
Eliza Madrigal: Ah... remembering to let you both know that we record these talks as well...
Eliza Madrigal: most of our discussions from the last 3 years are on a wiki: playasbeing.org
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Arch
Kavi01 Resident: hey there koya
Svara01 Resident: hi koya
Eliza Madrigal: 'ways of conversing' is an interesting topic in itself
Kavi01 Resident: yes the recorder mentioned it :)
Archmage Atlantis: Greetings Aph, Paradise, Kavi, Svara
Kavi01 Resident: indeed
Eliza Madrigal: :) thank goodness for our friendly recorder
Kavi01 Resident: you see we usually tend to avoid conflict
Archmage Atlantis: Koya, Nimbus and Chester say hello also
Kavi01 Resident: for we dont know how to deal with it
Eliza Madrigal nods
Kavi01 Resident: the basic premise of the book is that conflict is an opportunity for growth
Paradise Tennant: smiles at arch and waves
Kavi01 Resident: thus shouldnt be avoided
Kavi01 Resident: but embraced properly
Eliza Madrigal: ah well 'properly' is rarely agreed upon?
Kavi01 Resident: as conflict and arguing are different things
Archmage Atlantis: Agree that things should not be avoided
Kavi01 Resident: well properly is only achieved when u can master it
Archmage Atlantis: Properly implies judgement
Archmage Atlantis: Judgement implies authority
Eliza Madrigal: some of us have looked into something called 'non violent communication'
Svara01 Resident: sorry i sadi hello to your pet and not to you arch :) !
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Aphrodite Macbain: yes NVC
Kavi01 Resident: lol same here
Eliza Madrigal: I thought maybe you were just animal lovers :)
Aphrodite Macbain: It's about not having to be "right'
Svara01 Resident: jajaja!
Archmage Atlantis: NP, Svara.....tho Koya is in my reality a fellow voyager
Kavi01 Resident: indeed aph
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Zaldaan
Kavi01 Resident: hi zaldaan
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Zaldaan
Aphrodite Macbain: Have a cushion
Svara01 Resident: hi zaldaan
Eliza Madrigal: we're communicating about communication :)
Archmage Atlantis: Greeting Zal
Aphrodite Macbain: non violent communication
Aphrodite Macbain: constructive communication where no one is made wrong
Eliza Madrigal: I notice one major source of tension is not staying with direct experience at hand
Aphrodite Macbain: yes, not being specific and speaking in generalities
Kavi01 Resident: the problem lies in the fact that we seldom listen to what others tell us, we somehow tend to hear through the ears of our own perception. every bit infused by our past, our needs and our fears
Eliza Madrigal: so in a conversaion, going back to old stories, etc, nods
Eliza Madrigal: indeed
Paradise Tennant: yes they are kind of like grooves .. people get stuck
Aphrodite Macbain: somtetimes it help to "echo" back what someone has said to you to make sure you understand and show you are listening
Kavi01 Resident: in my case grooves should be crevases!
Eliza Madrigal: hehe
Svara01 Resident: yep
Eliza Madrigal: that's a good tool Aph
Kavi01 Resident: indeed aph
Aphrodite Macbain: ruts rather than grooves!
Archmage Atlantis: Agree that I am the same Kavi
Eliza Madrigal: mainly, using the tools seems to require slowing down...
Eliza Madrigal: tough
Archmage Atlantis: From a mathematical standpoint, both perspectives seem equally valid
Eliza Madrigal: slowing down when adrenaline may say to speed up/push through
Eliza Madrigal: Zaldaan, would you like to have a seat somewhere?
Aphrodite Macbain: yes. take deep breaths
Svara01 Resident: count to 1 billion :)

--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal: :))
Archmage Atlantis: Kal, are you aware that in the image that I see you are standing above.......ah well she moved
Aphrodite Macbain: Kal?
Archmage Atlantis: So, there is a cushion below you, Zol
Archmage Atlantis: Zal.....bad typing as always Aph
Kavi01 Resident: what helps the most in terms of diminishing anger is truly trying to understand what the other says as your primary goal
Eliza Madrigal: suspending judgement?
Kavi01 Resident: try and understand the other in their own context
Kavi01 Resident: precisely no judgement
Kavi01 Resident: judgement is agressive
Kavi01 Resident: its like believing you know better
Eliza Madrigal: allowing another a different context is an interesting view in that regard...
Aphrodite Macbain: By paying attention to the other you focus attention away from yourself
Kavi01 Resident: well context is all
Kavi01 Resident: we react out of our own pasts
Aphrodite Macbain: and onto the idea being discussed. it becomes less personal
Kavi01 Resident: our own needs
Kavi01 Resident: our own fears
Aphrodite Macbain: our own ego
Kavi01 Resident: indeed aph ego gets in the way
Eliza Madrigal: with various scopes at various times...
Kavi01 Resident: ego makes you want to win an argument
Kavi01 Resident: when you should reach agreement
Kavi01 Resident: not argue
Aphrodite Macbain: I have the hardest time removing my emotions from my way of seeing or hearing things
Archmage Atlantis: Arguement has value
Aphrodite Macbain: It's hard to separate it
Svara01 Resident: im also like that aphrodite, its hard
Kavi01 Resident: theres this tale. 2 sisters argue over the last orange
Aphrodite Macbain: How do you "turn off" an emotion?
Kavi01 Resident: mom intervenes
Aphrodite Macbain: wait ten minutes?
Archmage Atlantis: Sometimes it is all I can do to agree to disagree....
Kavi01 Resident: and gives each half an orange
Svara01 Resident: i would like to know how!
Eliza Madrigal nods
Aphrodite Macbain: we all need a guardian ange / mom
Aphrodite Macbain: angel
Kavi01 Resident: one sister peels the orange and eats the fruit
Kavi01 Resident: the other
Kavi01 Resident: throws the fruit and uses the peel for a cake
Aphrodite Macbain: eats the peel?
Kavi01 Resident: if they discussed instead of argue
Archmage Atlantis: And the brother steals the fruit......and the tree
Archmage Atlantis: old story
Kavi01 Resident: one would get the full peel and the other the full fruit
Aphrodite Macbain: nice compromise. wish things could always be that easy Kavi
Kavi01 Resident: never easy
Eliza Madrigal: illiminating ego would seem aggressive too... if we can include ourselves in the equation then wouldn't there come a tame place to approach from
Kavi01 Resident: believe me i know
Aphrodite Macbain: what if it has to be divided into 3?
Eliza Madrigal: *may come
Kavi01 Resident: lol mom eats the fruit then
Aphrodite Macbain: lol
Kavi01 Resident: and the peel
Kavi01 Resident: :D
Aphrodite Macbain: :-P
Archmage Atlantis: A baby cannot be divided and live.......there must be a decision, at times
Svara01 Resident: yes i believe we must also be part of the equation
Aphrodite Macbain: Good ole Solomon!
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Kavi01 Resident: i agree svara
Kavi01 Resident: yet the trick is how do we get involved
Kavi01 Resident: or the need to win
Aphrodite Macbain: Elizxa, could you say more about "illuminating ego"?
Kavi01 Resident: without agression
Aphrodite Macbain: Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: yes the need to win seems an instinct toward division
Aphrodite Macbain: more important than finding the truth
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, I wrote illiminating, however it could apply Aph!
Svara01 Resident: selfish but instinctive?
Aphrodite Macbain: apply to what Eliza?
Eliza Madrigal: compassion would include the 'whole situation' and humility that we don't see everything
Kavi01 Resident: i agree eliza
Eliza Madrigal: so therein would be the benefit of the doubt/suspension of judgement
Aphrodite Macbain: yes.
Eliza Madrigal: if I try to 'stop' ego from wreaking havok, it gets louder.....
Aphrodite Macbain: That is what NVC is about. Suspension of judgement
Svara01 Resident: what is NVC (sorry)
Eliza Madrigal: mmm
Aphrodite Macbain: Compassion and finding the truth together
Kavi01 Resident: like in traditional zen rock gardens one can never see all the rocks from different vantage points
Aphrodite Macbain: Non Violent Communication
Archmage Atlantis: Eliza, trying to stop a small child from acting as it will act......how does that usually go?
Svara01 Resident: txs!
Eliza Madrigal: ah, nice analogy Kavi
Eliza Madrigal: :)) Arch
Aphrodite Macbain: http://www.cnvc.org/
Eliza Madrigal: this 'ways of communication' topic is so intrinsic to the spirit of 'playing as being'...
Eliza Madrigal: Hello Listener , Stevie :)
stevenaia Michinaga: waves, so sorry I was delayed
Paradise Tennant: smiles hiya stev :)
Eliza Madrigal: Paradise grabbed the log for you, no worries :)
stevenaia Michinaga: waves
Kavi01 Resident: hey there steve
Archmage Atlantis: Me too......it happens as we get olde
Archmage Atlantis: r
Svara01 Resident: hi steve
Paradise Tennant: actually eliza was there first :)
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Arch, PAradise, Eliza, Kavi, Aph
Aphrodite Macbain: Hiya Stevenaia
stevenaia Michinaga: and Zaldaan
Eliza Madrigal: we've been having a lovely conversation ... about existence and communication
Archmage Atlantis: Steven, I must go....good luck
stevenaia Michinaga: and Svarao
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! Arch!
Eliza Madrigal: Nice to see you Arch, nite
Archmage Atlantis: Blessings and Namaste
Eliza Madrigal: Namaste
Svara01 Resident: namaste
Paradise Tennant: bye arch
Aphrodite Macbain: _/V\_
stevenaia Michinaga: thank you Paradise I would be happy to post the log
Kavi01 Resident: namasté _/*\_
Eliza Madrigal: re Zen gardens, one thing I've been reading about as well... and thought to ask if others are familiar with, is 'wabi-sabi'
Paradise Tennant: smiles
Aphrodite Macbain: yes
Paradise Tennant: love the words :)

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Aphrodite Macbain: nice concept
Kavi01 Resident: please illuminate us :)
Aphrodite Macbain: Wabi-sabi (侘寂?) represents a comprehensive Japanese world view or aesthetic centered on the acceptance of transience. The aesthetic is sometimes described as one of beauty that is "imperfect, impermanent and incomplete".[1] It is a concept derived from the Buddhist assertion of the Three marks of existence (三法印 sanbōin?), specifically impermanence (無常 mujō?). Characteristics of the wabi-sabi aesthetic include asymmetry, asperity (roughness or irregularity), simplicity, economy, austerity, modesty, intimacy and appreciation of the ingenuous integrity of natural objects and processes.
Eliza Madrigal: thanks, Aph :)
Aphrodite Macbain: That about covers it, doesn't it Eliza?
Eliza Madrigal: well what is interesting, is the more I read, the less captures it! but yes that's the gist...
Kavi01 Resident: lol quite concise and explanatory :D
Aphrodite Macbain: the opposite of "slick"
Eliza Madrigal: another site says this:
Eliza Madrigal: Wabi stems from the root wa, which refers to harmony, peace, tranquillity, and balance. Generally speaking, wabi had the original meaning of sad, desolate, and lonely, but poetically it has come to mean simple, unmaterialistic, humble by choice, and in tune with nature. Someone who is perfectly herself and never craves to be anything else would be described as wabi.
Eliza Madrigal: Sabi by itself means "the bloom of time." It connotes natural progression-tarnish, hoariness, rust-the extinguished gloss of that which once sparkled. It's the understanding that beauty is fleeting. The word's meaning has changed over time, from its ancient definition, "to be desolate," to the more neutral "to grow old."
Aphrodite Macbain: two opposits- topsy turvey
Aphrodite Macbain: *opposites
Aphrodite Macbain: It is also a fashion statement!
Eliza Madrigal: http://nobleharbor.com/tea/chado/WhatIsWabi-Sabi.htm
Kavi01 Resident: lol
Eliza Madrigal: Is it? haha
Eliza Madrigal: Well in this page the writer, an architect, says that his daughter would use the term to get out of making the bed...
Aphrodite Macbain: yes. Dressing in a fashion that deliberately
Eliza Madrigal: but that's not what is meant, hah
Aphrodite Macbain: is deliberately um 'unfinuished"
Kavi01 Resident: lol
Aphrodite Macbain: *unfinished
Eliza Madrigal: mmm
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Kavi01 Resident: i could probably argue my life is a sorry case of wabi sabi
Aphrodite Macbain: It has been appropriated by the fashion and design industries
Kavi01 Resident: lots of unfinished edges
Aphrodite Macbain: YES!
Svara01 Resident: :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)) well according to this you have character then!
Kavi01 Resident: lol u can call it that
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Kavi01 Resident: svara will call it different :)
Svara01 Resident: :))
Eliza Madrigal: thinking of leonard cohen's 'there is a crack in everything, that's how the light gets in'
Eliza Madrigal: hah, listens to Svara....
Svara01 Resident: nice thought elisa!
Aphrodite Macbain: I love that phrase!
Aphrodite Macbain hums along
Eliza Madrigal: appreciation of 'everything'
Eliza Madrigal: even somehow, maybe a conflict ? :)
Kavi01 Resident: yes
Eliza Madrigal: not trying to get 'out' of it
Kavi01 Resident: conflict is an opportunity for growth
Kavi01 Resident: for learning
Kavi01 Resident: so it can be appreciated
Kavi01 Resident: indeed
Kavi01 Resident: conflict makes us evolve
Kavi01 Resident: but if not addressed in the correct way
Kavi01 Resident: it can destroy you
Kavi01 Resident: thus one shouldnt avoid conflict, its agression one needs to avoid
Aphrodite Macbain: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e39UmEnqY8
Eliza Madrigal: TY Aph :)
Aphrodite Macbain: makes me cry
Eliza Madrigal: real beauty
Paradise Tennant: yes .. :)
Aphrodite Macbain: yes. penetrating
Paradise Tennant: he takes your breath away
Kavi01 Resident: whats that video of?
Kavi01 Resident: sorry we are cohen newbs
Aphrodite Macbain: Leonard Cohen singing the song
Aphrodite Macbain: enjoy it
Eliza Madrigal: Oh :) yes enjoy
Aphrodite Macbain: I've been listening to him sing for 30 years
Eliza Madrigal: I dscovered him here at PaB too
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Paradise Tennant: he is a canadian song writer .. :) of many many songs I am sure you have heard .. his songs were popular with other artists ..have been covered alot
Aphrodite Macbain: MOntreal born
Eliza Madrigal: well... I'd heard Halleluia , which many have done so people often don't know it is him
Aphrodite Macbain: Allelulja
Eliza Madrigal nods
Kavi01 Resident: lol im more of billie holliday persuasion
Kavi01 Resident: :)
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, she's wonderful too :))
Kavi01 Resident: but its quite nice
Aphrodite Macbain: Like a Bird on a wire, like a dri=unk in a midnight choir, I have tried all my life to be free
Paradise Tennant: his life was quite ironic too .. retreated to a zen monastry for five years had all his money stolen by his business manager .. had to go back on tour in his 70s
Kavi01 Resident: can say theres a lot of wabi-sabi in his voice
Eliza Madrigal smiles yes
Aphrodite Macbain: Yes absolutely Kavi!!
Eliza Madrigal: he is a 'poet first' however treasures his musicians
Aphrodite Macbain: rough and gravelly and soft
Eliza Madrigal: ah, I didn't know why he was touring so late... got to see him
Eliza Madrigal: he said, '15 years ago, I was just a crazy 60 year old kid with a dream' hahah
Aphrodite Macbain: I have a book of poetry he wrote in the 60s called "My Favourite Game"
Kavi01 Resident: lol well im a middle aged teen myself
Aphrodite Macbain: anyone read it?
Eliza Madrigal: :)))
Kavi01 Resident: hmm i should research him more
Eliza Madrigal: I haven't Aph... will look for it though
Kavi01 Resident: like a crooner version of ginsberg?
Aphrodite Macbain: yes. He has many many albums

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Eliza Madrigal: yes re ginsberg
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, sorry for Svara to poof
Aphrodite Macbain: good comparison
Paradise Tennant: smiles watched him live I guess two years ago at the sony centre ..thinking I was .. in the presence of a music legend
Eliza Madrigal: mmmm
Aphrodite Macbain: a sort of a Buddhist Boby Dylan
Aphrodite Macbain: Bob
Kavi01 Resident: lol
Aphrodite Macbain: Lucky you Paradise
Kavi01 Resident: i should definately look him up
Eliza Madrigal: you could be up all night, watching youtubes hehe
Aphrodite Macbain: yes. He is definitely a musical hero as well as a poet
Kavi01 Resident: i will build up a plylist for the appletv
Kavi01 Resident: hopefully i can get captions for it
Aphrodite Macbain: Time to turn off my computer and amble on home.
Kavi01 Resident: as english is not my main tongue
Eliza Madrigal: Nice to see you Aph
Eliza Madrigal: is it not?
Aphrodite Macbain: Could have fooled me Kavi!
Kavi01 Resident: c ya aph
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! all!
Eliza Madrigal waves warmly
stevenaia Michinaga: bye Aph
Paradise Tennant: nite nite aph
Kavi01 Resident: lol well i can handle english
Kavi01 Resident: but that voice is way to gravelly for me
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: he may be somewhat acquired as a taste
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Kavi01 Resident: oh i have quite ecletic tastes
Kavi01 Resident: so he will fit right in im sure
Eliza Madrigal: :) Hope you'll visit us again Kavi
Paradise Tennant: hmm also recommend .... kd lang hymns of the 49th parrallel - if we are going canadian :)
Eliza Madrigal: and Svara too...
Eliza Madrigal: I should be signing off ... planned to peek in for just a little while, but this has been lovely
Kavi01 Resident: i will try so but i seldom visit anymore
Kavi01 Resident: sl turned into quite an addiction
Eliza Madrigal: ah, yes it can!
Kavi01 Resident: yes we will be back
Paradise Tennant: should say good nite too .. dog is giving my the head twisty ears perked up .. kind of look :) like time for a walk :)
stevenaia Michinaga: Thnak you for "fillling in" Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: my pleasure Stevie :)
Eliza Madrigal: thanks so much, Bye for now and then see you again Kavi :)
Kavi01 Resident: ok time to sign off from here
Kavi01 Resident: have a good one guys
Kavi01 Resident: and hope 2 see u soon
Eliza Madrigal: stevie, you may want to stop the log when you're done since zal seems not to be here :)
Paradise Tennant: namaste my friends :) hope you enjoyed you visit wih us kavi :)
stevenaia Michinaga: has Zaldaan been like that the entire session?
Eliza Madrigal: Namaste'
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Eliza Madrigal: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Eliza Madrigal: odd duck
stevenaia Michinaga: it logs off if no guardians are here
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Eliza Madrigal: hehe, nite
stevenaia Michinaga: night