2011.07.30 19:00 - Integrating the Unknown

The Guardian for this meeting was Lucinda Lavender. The comments are by Lucinda Lavender.

Attending were FcSeeker, Santoshima, Dash, Druth and Roger briefly.

Discussion of a documentary about ghosts....

FcSeeker Resident: hello Lucinda
Lucinda Lavender: Hello FC:)
Lucinda Lavender: How are you on this evening?
FcSeeker Resident: having peace inside and in mind
FcSeeker Resident: how are you ?
Lucinda Lavender: gratitude for the weather today...and afew other things like that
FcSeeker Resident: <3
Lucinda Lavender: This is also the new moon...planting seeds of compassion sounds good
FcSeeker Resident: <3
FcSeeker Resident: how does that happen ?
Lucinda Lavender: not sure...thinking of some nice things to do for others
FcSeeker Resident: ah ok
Lucinda Lavender: like driving someone to the airport tomorrow at 4 am
FcSeeker Resident: <3
Lucinda Lavender: Helping someone else move to a new place
FcSeeker Resident: but that dont need to think but just do...
FcSeeker Resident: imo
Lucinda Lavender: true
Lucinda Lavender: spending time sith them is good
Lucinda Lavender: with them
FcSeeker Resident: but your words made me to think that movie I just watched a bit...
Lucinda Lavender: which was that?
FcSeeker Resident: well...in fact it was not a movie, but a document
Lucinda Lavender: ah:)
FcSeeker Resident: at least it was made to seem such
Lucinda Lavender: about what?
FcSeeker Resident: there was a house in which there was a ghost; girl who had died because her clothing burned
FcSeeker Resident: and there where several people in order to help her
FcSeeker Resident: I felt so much bad that it was hard for me to watch it to it's end
Lucinda Lavender: nodding...
FcSeeker Resident: that was because there was no true compassion
FcSeeker Resident: for that poor spirit
Lucinda Lavender: the girl was the ghost?
FcSeeker Resident: yes
Lucinda Lavender: ah
FcSeeker Resident: and even she was so polite, that she didn't show herself clearly because she knew that those people would've got scared
Lucinda Lavender: nodding
FcSeeker Resident: but I had to watch it to it's end because I wanted to know if they could help her
Lucinda Lavender: and could they?
FcSeeker Resident: but the 'movie' didn't tell it...
FcSeeker Resident: well...that's easy
FcSeeker Resident: when ever you meet a ghost you can bring him roses with your mind at least
FcSeeker Resident: and if you feel compassion to her/him, that is essential help
Lucinda Lavender: so was the movie about how people choose to respond to another's pain?
FcSeeker Resident: no
Lucinda Lavender: i see
FcSeeker Resident: it was a story of group of the people who thought themself to know enough of ghosts; how to help them
FcSeeker Resident: but I felt all the time that it was made only in order to get money from people....
Lucinda Lavender: noticing compassion as a response from the inside can be hard
FcSeeker Resident: such document which tells few details many times
--BELL--

FcSeeker Resident: I felt that ghost to feel more compassion to these people than them people to feel for her
FcSeeker Resident: like they only would've want to show their knowledge of ghosts....
FcSeeker Resident: hello san
Lucinda Lavender: HI Santoshima
Lucinda Lavender: Hi druth
Santoshima Resident: hello lucinda, druth, fc
druth Vlodovic: hey all
FcSeeker Resident: I dont understand why those people took her to be any different than a person who sill has the human body and is living among people
FcSeeker Resident: hi druth
FcSeeker Resident: who had got lost
FcSeeker Resident: they only spoke of her anger
Lucinda Lavender: we are discussing a documantary about helping a ghost/spirit
Santoshima Resident: what is the name of it?
FcSeeker Resident: and how he made people to be restless and feeling different kind of sad feelings
Santoshima Resident: hello dash
Lucinda Lavender: hello Dash
FcSeeker Resident: Hello Dash
Dash Earthboy: hey y'all
Lucinda Lavender: this maybe a response where people are into "drama"
Lucinda Lavender: and fear of a spirit is quite common I would imagine
Santoshima Resident: does it have a name?
FcSeeker Resident: well...they were 'professional' people
Lucinda Lavender: good question Santoshima
Santoshima Resident: what does that mean "professional people"?
FcSeeker Resident: I sadly dont remember the name of the document
Santoshima Resident: professional ghost helpers?
Lucinda Lavender: name of the documentary...about a ghost...will ponder that
FcSeeker Resident: yes
Santoshima Resident: ok
FcSeeker Resident: that's how they acted
Santoshima Resident: pass it along if you remember
Lucinda Lavender: nodding
FcSeeker Resident: even those two mediums who was there in the house also
FcSeeker Resident: and they worked in darkness
FcSeeker Resident: only spotlight for camera to be able to make the 'movie'
Lucinda Lavender: ah...high drama
druth Vlodovic: the blair with project effect
FcSeeker Resident: have helped chosts myself to go foreward and know few other people who's done such even much more than I
Lucinda Lavender: wow..quite unfamiliar work for many people...I imagine
FcSeeker Resident: but these people demanded this ghost to do things many times not thinking how much that would need strength from this poor girl
Santoshima Resident: where did you find the film/video?
FcSeeker Resident: from TV
Lucinda Lavender: well your compassion for the ghost was present in the watching
FcSeeker Resident: it seemed to be some serie from USA
Lucinda Lavender: maybe that was of help
FcSeeker Resident: true
Lucinda Lavender: on some level
FcSeeker Resident: then they showed how the other medium opened the door to light for her to go if she wanted to
Lucinda Lavender: did that seem to make sense to you?
FcSeeker Resident: that was the only thing that I felt that they truly did something
Lucinda Lavender: ah
Lucinda Lavender: what shall we focus on in the next pause I am wondering?
FcSeeker Resident: yet; because the poor girl lived in 'no where' area, they imho should've tell her more how it would be better for her to go through that door
FcSeeker Resident: well...I saw that 'by accedent' and I dont believe in accedents at all...so I can atm only wish that she received the knowledge at least now
Lucinda Lavender: ah
FcSeeker Resident: have no idea when that decument was done and didn't feel the connection to the girl herself clearly
FcSeeker Resident: ah...sorry
Lucinda Lavender: well in the next pause we could focus our attention on being open in our minds/hearts to help others
--BELL--

FcSeeker Resident: not that I tell you this; sure I did...just didn't notice...but as I felt her feelings
Santoshima Resident: is there a topic this evening?
Santoshima Resident: sorry, i may have missed that
Santoshima Resident: ghost
Santoshima Resident: ?
Lucinda Lavender: well we have had discussion about compassion and ghosts
Santoshima Resident: yes! please continue
Lucinda Lavender: i know very little about ghosts
FcSeeker Resident: Hello Roger
druth Vlodovic: could say it's about compassion and documentaries as well, living people are often treated similarily by reporters
Dash Earthboy: hey Roger
Santoshima Resident: hi Roger
FcSeeker Resident: people in Japan knows much of them by their religion
Lucinda Lavender: Hi Roger
Lucinda Lavender: ah yes
FcSeeker Resident: sure it's still the person's own choice how to take the religion
Lucinda Lavender: Think I was probably brought up without much education about ghosts
FcSeeker Resident: hm
FcSeeker Resident: I've thought a lot why this document was done
FcSeeker Resident: maybe that's because of so little knowledge of ghosts in USA...
Lucinda Lavender: and why do you think the documentary was done?
FcSeeker Resident: but at first I thought that it's done in order to make money
FcSeeker Resident: so 'raw' was their behavier ...
FcSeeker Resident: I'de say that even rude
Dash Earthboy: I'm a fan of Casper, the FRIENDly ghost :)
Lucinda Lavender: :) Dash..me too...a cartoon about a ghost in the US...
FcSeeker Resident: me too
Lucinda Lavender: bye Roger..
druth Vlodovic: I was taught that ghosts a) don't exist b) might be evil c) should not be talked about because it is related to magic lol all sorts of contradictory things
Dash Earthboy: bye Roger
Dash Earthboy: mixed messages, huh druth?
Lucinda Lavender: nodding
druth Vlodovic: perhaps they didn't see the ghost as really human, so they didn't treat it with respect
FcSeeker Resident: well...have helped huge many ghosts and never met bad ghost myself
Dash Earthboy: :)@Fc
Lucinda Lavender: so a more open view of ghosts perhaps
Santoshima Resident: how do you help ghosts?
Santoshima Resident: what is the motivation
Santoshima Resident: and what is the means of helping?
Lucinda Lavender: luci listens
FcSeeker Resident: to help them to continue their own path
FcSeeker Resident: hm
druth Vlodovic: to?
FcSeeker Resident: what is motivation to help others ?
FcSeeker Resident: to the direction where they was going
FcSeeker Resident: specially such people have taken contact to me who's beloved one has made a suiside
FcSeeker Resident: but once one daughter took contact to me even her mom who had died was very beautiful person and died the natural death
FcSeeker Resident: she wanted to know how her mom is
FcSeeker Resident: as she felt not her to be well
FcSeeker Resident: and she was right
FcSeeker Resident: even such beautiful spirit was afraid of so bright light which she saw that she didn't dare to step into it without my support
FcSeeker Resident: and when she had gone there, she sent that most wonderfull energy to me which is there where she went
Lucinda Lavender: seems like a path to integrating what is unknown...
FcSeeker Resident: unknown to many spirits...
--BELL--

FcSeeker Resident: it's not only human world where is problems in traveling also
Dash Earthboy: *there's nothing you can know that isn't known, nothing you can see that isn't shown...it's easy...ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE...
FcSeeker Resident: <3<3<3
Lucinda Lavender: nice song dash
Dash Earthboy: :)
FcSeeker Resident: ah yes; roses and compassion are mostly enough, but in case you can give love; that's the best
FcSeeker Resident: when helps spirits who are in so called beyond
Lucinda Lavender: I will have to go soon...I appreciate hearing this tonight since I have tomorrow an anniversary of a special friend's death
FcSeeker Resident: just the same when you help other people...
Lucinda Lavender: my conductor from my choir who was kidded one year ago in a car accident
FcSeeker Resident: dont mean this to be any joke, but loving greetings; please bring my greetings to your that friend
Lucinda Lavender: sorry...killed
Lucinda Lavender: ok:)
Dash Earthboy: condolences
Lucinda Lavender: will think some special message for him
Lucinda Lavender: him
Santoshima Resident: it is in honour of that person: peace and grace to everyone attending
Lucinda Lavender: yes..he made much beautiful music in his life
FcSeeker Resident: your anniversary for him helpes him
FcSeeker Resident: he's not gone far
Lucinda Lavender: was always in my dreams too:)
FcSeeker Resident: <3<3<3
Lucinda Lavender: must remember that ....
FcSeeker Resident: but he is where he wants to be
Lucinda Lavender: good ...yes
Santoshima Resident: good night everyone.
Santoshima Resident: must sleep
FcSeeker Resident: good night
Lucinda Lavender: thanks Santoshima
Dash Earthboy: g'nite San
Lucinda Lavender: dream well
druth Vlodovic: 'night san
Dash Earthboy: i also am fading after all the heat and not much sleep last night
Dash Earthboy: so I best try to catch up
FcSeeker Resident: <3
Lucinda Lavender: sleep well..drink lots of H2)
Lucinda Lavender: 0
druth Vlodovic: good luck with that project dash :)
FcSeeker Resident: rest well and have nice dreams
Lucinda Lavender: thanks fc...for you words
FcSeeker Resident: <3<3<3
Lucinda Lavender: I will post and edit the log later
druth Vlodovic: 'night luci, and I wish you a good day tomorrow
Lucinda Lavender: thanks so much druth
FcSeeker Resident: namaste
Lucinda Lavender: namaste