2011.07.30 07:00 - purpose

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    The Guardian for this meeting was druth Vlodovic. The comments are by druth Vlodovic.

    milakel Resident: hi :)
    druth Vlodovic: hey milakel
    druth Vlodovic: have you been here before?
    milakel Resident: lovely morning
    milakel Resident: i sure have :)
    --BELL--
    milakel Resident: haven't seen anyone yet
    druth Vlodovic: shh :)
    milakel Resident: must be asleep
    druth Vlodovic: we're meditating
    druth Vlodovic: people have been missing their spots since the time change in spring
    druth Vlodovic: grab a seat
    druth Vlodovic: anything interesting on your mind today?
    druth Vlodovic: oh there you are, how did you get up there?
    milakel Resident: um, having a nap :)
    druth Vlodovic: we were briefly visited by the ghost of an old friend
    milakel Resident: storm should be here. 7 am is his time.
    milakel Resident: oh
    milakel Resident: who was it?
    druth Vlodovic: it is odd not to see him on-sim, must be technical troubles
    milakel Resident: btw, you sit in the pond :)
    druth Vlodovic: nice and cool :)
    milakel Resident: :)
    druth Vlodovic: I'm off in 15 myself to a discussion on "what we mean by spiritual but not religious"
    milakel Resident: where is it?
    druth Vlodovic: Pamala's thinktank
    druth Vlodovic: I can tp you if you're interested
    druth Vlodovic: she does a sort of voice/text mix thing
    milakel Resident: ah, i remember her
    milakel Resident: paradise island?
    druth Vlodovic: not that I'm aware of
    --BELL--
    milakel Resident: um, ah no, it's another one
    druth Vlodovic: she is a professional of sime kind, does counseling, amongst other things
    milakel Resident: yes, i've been to a talk once
    milakel Resident: i'd like to go :)

    druth Vlodovic: probably the one on approaches to SL, that one did the rounds, and might have hit paradise
    druth Vlodovic: ok, I'll send for you at the appropriate time :)
    milakel Resident: thank you :)
    druth Vlodovic: a lot of people seem to spend their energy trying to justify what they do
    milakel Resident: it's good to have purpose :)
    druth Vlodovic: when a kid does something stupid the first thing we ask them is "why did you do that?!?" and often they can't say
    druth Vlodovic: hard to realize they are likely being honest
    milakel Resident: most likely they tell the truth
    druth Vlodovic: people have to learn to lie, and be mean
    druth Vlodovic: Freud had it backwards :)
    milakel Resident: freud brought us nothing but trouble :)
    druth Vlodovic: he got us to consider that there might be reasons for what we do
    druth Vlodovic: even, or especially, when we do what we don't want to
    milakel Resident: too much awareness on his part of what has to be simply experienced :)
    druth Vlodovic: maybe
    druth Vlodovic: I like to know
    druth Vlodovic: if all you do is experience then what you do involuntarily becomes what you are, with no reference to what you could be
    milakel Resident: i think there's causality. always a reason for an action.
    druth Vlodovic: this, I think, was his biggest contribution
    druth Vlodovic: and his courage to look inside himself and try to find commonality with others
    druth Vlodovic: but you're right, there is a time to just experience, relax and enjoy
    druth Vlodovic: stop weighing and judging
    druth Vlodovic: to stop having a purpose :)
    milakel Resident: susie, you're a bit late :)
    --BELL--
    milakel Resident: we're off for a talk. wanna come?
    iwandertoo Resident: late?
    druth Vlodovic: hey suse
    iwandertoo Resident: waves
    druth Vlodovic: you're five hours early for the session
    milakel Resident: :)
    milakel Resident: druth, tp?
    iwandertoo Resident: laughing
    druth Vlodovic: ah, yes
    iwandertoo Resident: sorry...just came to chill
    milakel Resident: susan, come with us
    druth Vlodovic: we're off to discover the diff between spirituality and religion
    iwandertoo Resident: sounds heavy
    druth Vlodovic: try the fountain :)
    druth Vlodovic: cya!
    iwandertoo Resident: take care
    milakel Resident: what can be more light-minded than religion? :)
    milakel Resident: you're coming?
    iwandertoo Resident: lol
    iwandertoo Resident: teleport me...
    milakel Resident: ok, stay put :)
    iwandertoo Resident: but i may opt out quickly

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