2011.07.29 07:00 - Dreaming Pema's Relative

The Guardian for this meeting was Lucinda Lavender. The comments are by Lucinda Lavender.

Attending were Riddle, Mila, Ewan and iwandertoo ...I arrived late due to dreaming.

We start by discussing appearance and presence...then it reminds me of the dream...

iwandertoo Resident: waves
Riddle Sideways: oh hi, was off in another window :)
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: was wondering about where ppl were for this session?
Riddle Sideways: Hi Luci
Lucinda Lavender: Hi !so sorry but slept in!!
Riddle Sideways: s'ok
Riddle Sideways: better for you
iwandertoo Resident: waves :)
Lucinda Lavender: I have had a very busy week ...with friends here from out of town...
Riddle Sideways: how nice
Riddle Sideways hums "old friends"
Lucinda Lavender: yes...very nice...new ppl I had ownly known through computer and skype
Riddle Sideways: Hi Ewan
Lucinda Lavender: so pretty exciting to meet in RL
Lucinda Lavender: HI Ewan:)
Riddle Sideways: can imagine
Lucinda Lavender: They came from Texas
iwandertoo Resident: waves
Riddle Sideways: Texas is (mostly) a nice place
Ewan Bonham: Hi all!
Lucinda Lavender: interesting that you can become close even through phone and computer
Riddle Sideways: but Oklahoma is OK
Ewan Bonham: I do believe there is an energy here which is very real..:)
Riddle Sideways: yes, was watching you trouble trying to sit, Ewan
Lucinda Lavender: yes Ewan...
Lucinda Lavender: will claim this as I was late but am so glad you are all here!
Riddle Sideways: please say more, Eqan
Riddle Sideways: *ewan
milakel Resident: hi :)
iwandertoo Resident: waves
Lucinda Lavender: the real ness of energy here...
milakel Resident: no storm today
Riddle Sideways: littl Mila :)
Lucinda Lavender: Hi Mila
Ewan Bonham: I am sorry...what would you like me to expound upon?
Ewan Bonham: The energy here?
Ewan Bonham: And how it is transmitted?
Lucinda Lavender: yes if you might have more to say
Ewan Bonham: Well, I think as I am interacting with other avis, I can almost feel their hearts and spirits..
Ewan Bonham: Each one seems to differ..
Ewan Bonham: And it does not have much to do with what they said...:)
milakel Resident: ewan, how they look? :)
Ewan Bonham: Does anyone else have that experience?
Lucinda Lavender: Yes I do...
Ewan Bonham: It also does not seem to matter how the avi looks..
Ewan Bonham: It is a presence...
milakel Resident: i like when riddle has a cute elephant avi
Riddle Sideways: :)
Lucinda Lavender: :)
milakel Resident: or when luci has her cosmic dress :)
Ewan Bonham: Smile...
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Riddle Sideways: but, not locked into one look
Riddle Sideways: the same energy is there
Riddle Sideways: to be tasted
milakel Resident: i think you can't dismiss the appearance unless you can't see the object (or avi)
Lucinda Lavender: you think about what presents itself in each moment and there is kind of an unfolding/evolving presence yes
Ewan Bonham: Appearance has a bearing on my impressions but this sense of presence seems totally a separate thing for me..
Lucinda Lavender: sometimes it reminds me of flowers that open and close
milakel Resident: poetic :)
Ewan Bonham: nods..
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: yes the separate presentation from/with the appearance
Ewan Bonham: Yes..
Riddle Sideways: the A&P of APAPB
Lucinda Lavender: we can take away the avi's appearance..which acts as a place holder or something...but when taken away...there is a the attention maybe that the person at the keys demonstrates...
milakel Resident: may i ask how you define 1. appearance and 2. presentation in this context? ewan, riddle?
Riddle Sideways: but A&P was a grocery chain too
Riddle Sideways: :)
iwandertoo Resident: :)
Lucinda Lavender: :)))was thinking same
Riddle Sideways: like using a text-only SL viewer sometimes
Riddle Sideways: and still "knowing" ya'll
Lucinda Lavender: Luci listens...
Riddle Sideways: grok
milakel Resident: it's cause you have prior experience
Riddle Sideways: then the experience of meeting those avs and voices in RL
Riddle Sideways: let Luci is doing
milakel Resident: still, what's the difference in appearance and presentation?
Ewan Bonham: For me , that does not entirely account for all of the impression. It does feel like energy..
milakel Resident: riddlish :)
Riddle Sideways: @ Mila, you can refer to the piles of logs that discuss APAPB
milakel Resident: i don't know what apapb is
milakel Resident: is there a succinct definition? :)
milakel Resident: or just in your words. how do you see it?
Riddle Sideways: "succinct" hmmmm...
Riddle Sideways: as succinct as PaB gets
milakel Resident: :)
Riddle Sideways: Appreciate the presence of appearance as a presentation by Being
milakel Resident: ahhh!! now i get it :)
milakel Resident: or not :)
Lucinda Lavender: I remember early in the Time sessions there was talk about it I think...
Riddle Sideways: way back in '08 we kicked that around a lot
milakel Resident: oh, 08
Lucinda Lavender: I see
Riddle Sideways: ya get 134 hits from the search box
Lucinda Lavender: wow!
milakel Resident: popular thing
milakel Resident: i suppose it's one of those things that can't be described, but only discussed
Ewan Bonham: Smile...Mila
milakel Resident: :)
milakel Resident: or experienced
milakel Resident: but then, you have to know what it is you experience to notice

And so I remember a dream from the morning...
Lucinda Lavender: Interesting...am just remembering my dream...
milakel Resident: dream lady :)
milakel Resident: do tell us
Lucinda Lavender: and was standing outside a church...hearing a person..say they were related to Pema... and I thought and then said I know Pema:) well sort of...
 I know his avatar...
milakel Resident: appearance or presentation of pema? :)
Lucinda Lavender: Yeah...exactly
milakel Resident: never seen pema in a dream
milakel Resident: i guess it's a good sign, luci :)
Lucinda Lavender: this was Pema's reletive....
Riddle Sideways: hmmm, might have had a very simular dream   (sorry I did not ask more here:))
Riddle Sideways: slightly different spelling too :)
Lucinda Lavender: really...I also felt the place was New York City
milakel Resident: did you talk to him?
--BELL--

We say good bye to Susan and Ewan and then start pondering the dream and dreaming in more depth.

iwandertoo Resident: (waves...best to everyone)
milakel Resident: susie :)
Lucinda Lavender: nice to see you Susan:)
Ewan Bonham: Oh, I will be leaving as well to go to another meeting...:)
Lucinda Lavender: nice to see you Ewan:0
Ewan Bonham: Nice seeing you all!
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Riddle Sideways: bye susan and ewan
Riddle Sideways: want to hear about dream, but RL has entered this office
Lucinda Lavender: I think in the dream it was like overhearing someone speak of Pema as a relative might ...
milakel Resident: another meeting?
milakel Resident: what did they say, luci? (Here it becomes a little confusing tho interesting due to writing Pema's name too many times)
Lucinda Lavender: standing at a boundary and hearing someone say...I am Pema's watching Pema's children ...
milakel Resident: huh?
Lucinda Lavender:like a sister or something might say... standing at the fence
milakel Resident: hmm
milakel Resident: kind of odd :)
Lucinda Lavender: sorry too many Pema's... in that sentence
milakel Resident: pemapemapema :P
Lucinda Lavender: Ha ha!
Lucinda Lavender: I have been thinking about boundaries...and such
milakel Resident: i wonder if he feels the energy of us talking about him right now :)
Lucinda Lavender: when we hear someone speaking over the fence...and add to it...it does seem to make it stronger...
milakel Resident: we should ask if he felt something weird at 8 am slt :)
Lucinda Lavender: more flow
Lucinda Lavender: ok...
milakel Resident: make it stronger, luci?
Lucinda Lavender: same dream had some small crocodiles to watch over...
milakel Resident: oh, boundaries. sorry.
milakel Resident: hehe
milakel Resident: tiny crocs :)
Lucinda Lavender: yes:)
milakel Resident: maybe tuny crocs are guardians
Riddle Sideways: ah, Pema's kids are crocks :)
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Lucinda Lavender: who knows!
milakel Resident: and you look over the session schedule :)
milakel Resident: riddle :)
Riddle Sideways: Pema's sisters' kids are crocks
milakel Resident: gah! this is such a complicated drema, luci! :)
Lucinda Lavender: was concerned for them being strong enough to open doors
Lucinda Lavender: these little crocks
Lucinda Lavender: they were inside a house in the dream..not by the fence tho...not Pema's maybe(probably near the church/park /fence tho).
milakel Resident: hehe
Riddle Sideways: tiny Echer B&W crocks
milakel Resident: dreams are the stories from the parallel universe
Riddle Sideways: that can go under doors
Lucinda Lavender: wanted to make sure the croc's did not eat my cats etc
milakel Resident: hehe
Lucinda Lavender: :)
milakel Resident: this is cute, luci :)
Lucinda Lavender: luci giggling:)
Lucinda Lavender: dreams can be fun
milakel Resident: cats with little crocs would make a hit on youtube!
Riddle Sideways: wonder if it is the dream that jumps around or the memory of fragments of a continuous dream
milakel Resident: hmm
Riddle Sideways: anything with cats is a hit on youTube
Lucinda Lavender: yes Riddle!
Lucinda Lavender: Husband and I were trying to contain the crocs:)
milakel Resident: riddle, interesting. it seems to me that it jumps whenever.
Lucinda Lavender: safely...
Riddle Sideways: maybe
milakel Resident: litke a broken teleporter
milakel Resident: can fire up at any time and send you away
Riddle Sideways: (miss Faenik syaing "it could be")
Lucinda Lavender: to me it seems that in a dream landscape it is kind of like a weave...with threads
Lucinda Lavender: folding under and over influencing
--BELL--

Riddle Sideways: yes
milakel Resident: i wonder if people appreciated each other more if we could teleport away any moment
Lucinda Lavender: Interestingly...with New York city there was the park conversation by the fence, and it connected to a part about where my grandmother lived when whe was there ...if she was...
Lucinda Lavender: searching through associations and history...
milakel Resident: random bits of memory
Lucinda Lavender: there was a sort of Harry Potterish feel to where she stayed in new york
Riddle Sideways: :)
Lucinda Lavender: I think mention of Pema on a friday morning was interesting too..as he held the Time Session slot there for so long...
Riddle Sideways: really like the weave of memory image
Lucinda Lavender: some new some old
Riddle Sideways: a rich blanket the conscienceness flys over
Lucinda Lavender: flying to Infinity and Beyond
Lucinda Lavender: ha
Riddle Sideways: an afgan with like a ruler/straight edge lain onto it
Riddle Sideways: where the edge touches
Riddle Sideways: comes into the dream
Lucinda Lavender: points of intersection there
Riddle Sideways: into the ADD (Adult distraction disorder)
milakel Resident: add
milakel Resident: hmm
Lucinda Lavender: nodding...sometimes see the dream as a mending process for the planket
Lucinda Lavender: blanket
Riddle Sideways: taking a new thread and knitting it in to fix up a hole
Lucinda Lavender: where loose threads get rewoven back in
Lucinda Lavender: and tied off
Lucinda Lavender: reconnected
Riddle Sideways: "... fixing a hole were the rain gets in"
Riddle Sideways: "and keeps my mind from wondering
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Lucinda Lavender: love the song
Riddle Sideways: how it will goooo go
Lucinda Lavender: the dream feels also to me like a cloak you put on during sleep
Lucinda Lavender: that in waking falls away sort of
Riddle Sideways: sort of (or maybe not)
Lucinda Lavender: yeah
Lucinda Lavender: Pema's relative...
Lucinda Lavender: well we all come here and relate
Riddle Sideways: or not to relate :)
Riddle Sideways: sometimes hearing the words and not getting them
Lucinda Lavender: yes...often so for me...
Riddle Sideways: sometimes relating deeper then thought ___
milakel Resident: folks, i'm off
Riddle Sideways: me, too
milakel Resident: thank you for the dreams and... apapo... well, that thing :)
Lucinda Lavender: yes me too...
Riddle Sideways: :)
Lucinda Lavender: thank you all:)
Riddle Sideways: bye all and thanks