The Guardian for this meeting was Paradise Tennant. The comments are by Paradise Tennant. Participating were Dash, oOOOo, FcSeeker, Susan, Santoshima, Roger, stevenaia,
Dash Earthboy: hey y'all
Dash Earthboy: hey Paradise
Roger Ormenthal: Hello
oO0Oo Resident: :) Hi Dash, Fc, Roger, Paradise :)
FcSeeker Resident: Hello Dash 0 Paradise Roger
Paradise Tennant: smiles hello ) dash roger fcseeker :) good to see everyone :)
FcSeeker Resident: hi Susan
oO0Oo Resident: Hi Susan
iwandertoo Resident: waves
Dash Earthboy: while I have a chance, here's an update on a problem I'm having which makes listening to "accept whatever happens and learn from it" and "accept your responsibility in the matter" almost offensive to hear
Dash Earthboy: wondered why room did not cool down overnight. Discovered baseboard heat units in my room were on high and there was no thermostat for me to control. When I notified the desk clerks they responded "We'll lend you a fan for a deposit." And when I respectfully requested the heat be turned down: "The thermostat is in the other room" (opposite shared bathroom) and "You need to talk to that guy and ask him to turn down the heat." And if he isn't there to talk to? "Leave a note for him."
Paradise Tennant: hiya susan nice to see you :)
iwandertoo Resident: you too, paradise
oO0Oo Resident: ooooh, that sounds very frustrating Dash
Dash Earthboy: have since talked to other tenants who say all baseboard heat units are on and management has been aware of it for months...management doesn't care
FcSeeker Resident: truly
oO0Oo Resident: One would think the management would take responsibility
Paradise Tennant: warmly so :)
Dash Earthboy: some of them have purchased their own windows a/c units to cope with this heat wave
Dash Earthboy: reminder: just finished hottest August on record here
Dash Earthboy: and today was warmest September day on record
oO0Oo Resident: Seems a waste, and in the management's best interest to fix it... so odd.
Dash Earthboy: think of all the energy being wasted by management to superheat this place
Paradise Tennant: hiya stev :) nice to see you
Dash Earthboy: hey Stev
FcSeeker Resident: Hello steve
Roger Ormenthal: Who pays for the electricity?
stevenaia Michinaga: waves
Dash Earthboy: management
oO0Oo Resident: we all do in the end
iwandertoo Resident: exceptional circumstances all around
iwandertoo Resident: waves
Dash Earthboy: yes Sam that too :(
oO0Oo Resident: Hi Stevenaia
stevenaia Michinaga: wow, the place was empty yesterday
Dash Earthboy: I was out on the town with another tenant here
Dash Earthboy: best night like that I've had in decades
oO0Oo Resident: is it electrical heat? (circuit breaker?)
Dash Earthboy: but couldn't sleep when I returned to this oven room
Dash Earthboy: I have no access to thermostats or circuit breakers
Paradise Tennant: do they not have an internal switch
Dash Earthboy: it's 86 outside right now and about 10 degrees warmer in here
Dash Earthboy: none I can find Paradise
Dash Earthboy: anyhow that's the update
Dash Earthboy: wanted to share this adventure
Paradise Tennant: http://www.home-wizard.com/maintenan...ardheating.asp
FcSeeker Resident: <3
Paradise Tennant: bet there is a how to video on youtube ... once found one on restringing a drapery tack in Chinese but still very helpful if you watch it 13 times :)
iwandertoo Resident: :)
Dash Earthboy: the other things like holes in the walls & carpets, mousetrap in hinge corner of door, exposed wiring, etc...I will report to City tomorrow
oO0Oo Resident: lol
Paradise Tennant: http://www.cadetco.com/FaqProductSpe...hp?prodid=1004
Paradise Tennant: smiles
Dash Earthboy: thanks for the links :)
oO0Oo Resident: 看了很多次,了解更多
Paradise Tennant: was going to suggest tonite we explore a topic that san and I were talking of yesterday animism :)
stevenaia Michinaga: animism and baseboard heat, I am truly confused
Dash Earthboy: :)
--BELL--
Paradise Tennant: smiles but in an interesting way linked ;)
Paradise Tennant: David Abram is unique among interpreters of the wild voice within us. His first book, The Spell of the Sensuous, has become a touchstone for a needed shift in our thinking about the place of humans in the world. As the poet Gary Snyder remarked, that book helped map us back into the world. In his new book, Becoming Animal, Abram offers a startling new exploration of our entanglement with the rest of nature. This time, his focus is the intimate but sadly forgotten relationship between our bodies and the earth. By excavating the most ordinary and familiar of our experiences--the perception of shadow, the recognition of depth, the transience of mood--he re-opens for us the knowing that our bodies are intertwined with the flesh of the earth. I cannot imagine another book that so gently and so persuasively alters how we look at ourselves, and reminds us that sentience was never our private possession, that our very awareness is a means of participating in a more than human world. At no other time in Western histo
Paradise Tennant: ry have we needed to listen to the wild voice within us, and to Dave Abram's, as much as we do today.
Roger Ormenthal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animism
Paradise Tennant: going to suggest .. we watch a really short clip on David Abram saw it last nite thought it was just great ... one sec
oO0Oo Resident: @ Stevenaia /me prays to the spirit in the baseboard heater... to give relief, or at least understanding
oO0Oo Resident: kk Para
stevenaia Michinaga: seems they are both stardust
Paradise Tennant: There is a little poem by Rainer Maria Rilke that captures this in a gentle way:
Ah, not to be cut off, not through the slightest partition shut out from the law of the stars
The inner — what is it? if not intensified sky, hurled through with birds and deep with the winds of homecoming.
Paradise Tennant: http://www.scottlondon.com/interviews/abram.html
Paradise Tennant: going to post this while I hunt for the clip smiles
Dash Earthboy: hey San
Santoshima Resident: hey
oO0Oo Resident: Hi Santo
Santoshima Resident: hello
Roger Ormenthal: I find animals to very much be spiritual beings. Anyone who is a companion human to an animal knows that.
oO0Oo Resident: Paradise is setting up a David Abram clip for discussion
Paradise Tennant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HRR4Mee8Ec
FcSeeker Resident: Hello san
Santoshima Resident: oh, ty
Santoshima Resident: hello Fc
Paradise Tennant: hmm not the one I was looking for but I suspect anything by this author will be interesting
Paradise Tennant: hiya san .. just started a topic thread - your suggestions on david abrams
Santoshima Resident: great, do you want any links?
Paradise Tennant: pls
Santoshima Resident: ok, a sec
Paradise Tennant: could not find the three we watched last nite :)
Santoshima Resident: here they are:
Santoshima Resident: flight from embodiment / david abram http://vimeo.com/14310916 an encounter the edge / david abram http://vimeo.com/14310585 Sleight-of-Hand in the Shaman's Craft / david abram http://vimeo.com/14311111
Paradise Tennant: your baseboards are wild dash :)
Paradise Tennant: going to suggest we take a moment to - just talk about wildness :)
stevenaia Michinaga: seems it is something we can't help but accept
oO0Oo Resident: before acceptance?
stevenaia Michinaga: offers no choices, just its own diretion and result, like weather
Paradise Tennant: think it is something we are that we try to run away from deny
stevenaia Michinaga: before acceptance there is now
Dash Earthboy: When I got my farm I had to face what the previous owners had done to the woodlot: let it grow back "wild" after it had been timbered out
oO0Oo Resident: that is a now situation
oO0Oo Resident: wild
Dash Earthboy: i did not accept "let it grow wild" at that point because the balance had already been effected by the timbering out of the finest hardwoods
stevenaia Michinaga: like the way susan arrives by phone, any where , any postion tonight she is a contortionist
--BELL--
stevenaia Michinaga: thank you susan
iwandertoo Resident: wonders...
stevenaia Michinaga: ..wild
Dash Earthboy: so I worked with the state forestry service to "manage" the woodlot (50 acres)
Paradise Tennant: let’s let go in this next 90 secs and think wild
Paradise Tennant: smiles
Paradise Tennant: so wilder a bit ? or no :)
oO0Oo Resident: almost out of control
Paradise Tennant: lol
stevenaia Michinaga: it's everywhere
Paradise Tennant: yes we are part of a big wildness that is totally beyond are control but it fundamentally is what we are :)
Paradise Tennant: *our
Paradise Tennant: smiles san .. which link would you like to explore introduce next :)
Santoshima Resident: maybe the first on the stack
Santoshima Resident: still watching Wild insights
Santoshima Resident: light from embodiment / david abram http://vimeo.com/14310916
Paradise Tennant: ok let's wait a minute and then we can watch the next one together when you are ready :)
Santoshima Resident: * :)
Santoshima Resident: ready ~
Paradise Tennant: okies
Dash Earthboy: pax et bonum y'all
iwandertoo Resident: waves
FcSeeker Resident: waves
oO0Oo Resident: _/\_ Dash
Santoshima Resident: bye dash
Paradise Tennant: namaste dash :) be wild :)
Santoshima Resident: wild and fwee
Santoshima Resident: *free
--BELL--
Paradise Tennant: smiles
stevenaia Michinaga: susan, you are not wild anymore (seated)
iwandertoo Resident: wonders
Paradise Tennant: makes you want to let go and embrace . the totality :)
Paradise Tennant: lol susan :)
iwandertoo Resident: (always skipping)
iwandertoo Resident: (if you set your visibility to 24m...the stars here are lovely)
Paradise Tennant: smiles thank you .. lovely to be able to adjust your seeing button :)
Paradise Tennant: would like to continue wtih this ..? san ? would you like t o choose another ?
Paradise Tennant: if that is ok with everone ?
Santoshima Resident: any ... someone can choose if wanted
Santoshima Resident: but i dont feel the need to introduce these, paradise
Paradise Tennant: ok
Santoshima Resident: happy to just watch them and contemplate
Paradise Tennant: let's do one more ?
Paradise Tennant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjEFWRX1KbA
--BELL--
Paradise Tennant: going to have to buy this man's books find his ideas .. really fresh ..really open :)
oO0Oo Resident: Agreed, he's compelling and on to the pulse, with an intelligent and articulate way
oO0Oo Resident: embodied one might say
Paradise Tennant: smiles yes fully present on all levels :)
stevenaia Michinaga: watches him move... he must do Tai Chi
Paradise Tennant: smiles nods ....good eyes stev :)
stevenaia Michinaga: I think I will see that everywhere for the next 99 days
Santoshima Resident: :)
Paradise Tennant: how are the 99 days going ?
stevenaia Michinaga: day 2, or -1 and 0
stevenaia Michinaga: looking forward to it
stevenaia Michinaga: no time like now to begin (day 0)
Paradise Tennant: a first step
Paradise Tennant: a blank slate to be still to be wild to be embodied to be :)
Paradise Tennant: find your reasonance .. :)
iwandertoo Resident: ...hopes to find such
stevenaia Michinaga: if it calms you a bit more than not, it should be considered as something you should think about doing more
FcSeeker Resident: takes a humble bow
FcSeeker Resident: namaste
Santoshima Resident: rest well, Fc
iwandertoo Resident: waves
oO0Oo Resident: Namaste Fc
Paradise Tennant: namaste fc .. thank you :)
iwandertoo Resident: (waves...going to wander)
Paradise Tennant: smiles going to have to say good nite too .. was up really late last night .. after a very long day .. a little low ebb… sleepy :) very much enjoyed the company and the conversation .. Thank you all ..
oO0Oo Resident: bye Susan
stevenaia Michinaga: bye susan
Santoshima Resident: bye susan, paradise
--BELL--
stevenaia Michinaga: night Paradise
oO0Oo Resident: Night and thanks Paradise
Santoshima Resident: thank you both
Paradise Tennant: nite nite san ) stev :) sweet dreams
stevenaia Michinaga: smiles
Santoshima Resident: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: my friends
oO0Oo Resident: :)
Santoshima Resident: ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~
Santoshima Resident: dandelion chain for my friends
stevenaia Michinaga: smiles, thank you
oO0Oo Resident: ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ ❀◕ ‿ ◕❀ ❁◕ ‿ ◕❁ ✾◕ ‿ ◕✾ ◕ ‿ ◕
Santoshima Resident: :)***
stevenaia Michinaga: you have a very unusual keyboard
Santoshima Resident: ("serge"?)
oO0Oo Resident: ¯\(°⏝°)/¯
stevenaia Michinaga: lol
Santoshima Resident: snort
stevenaia Michinaga: wow Samúð, that little stick guy is over your fish
Santoshima Resident: ✿◕ yes, how did you do that?
Santoshima Resident: or ... better to not reveal
oO0Oo Resident: This fish, graciously given by a zulu friend, has the ability to change its name, so I simply put new name in.
oO0Oo Resident: et voila
stevenaia Michinaga: seems like magic to me
Santoshima Resident: yes, and still does even with that explanation
oO0Oo Resident: Doesn't hold a candle to your floating hair act Stevenaia ;)
Santoshima Resident: what floating hair?
Santoshima Resident: something I don't know about?
--BELL--
oO0Oo Resident waves ... best
stevenaia Michinaga: waves, Samúð
Santoshima Resident: oh dear
stevenaia Michinaga: when I sign on from work, my body dissappears, I’m all hair and dress
Santoshima Resident: oh, right
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: makes no sense to me
stevenaia Michinaga: it’s a better connection
stevenaia Michinaga: (faster)
Santoshima Resident: something to do with the drawing of the body
stevenaia Michinaga: I suppose it protects me so no one will recognize me when I should be working (except for the name hovering above me, of course)
Santoshima Resident: :) yes, I suppose that has an advantage
Santoshima Resident: oh dear ...
Santoshima Resident: are we recording still?
stevenaia Michinaga: night recorder
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