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2011.09.25 13:00 - Personal Space
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The Guardian for this meeting was SophiaSharon Larnia. The comments are by SophiaSharon Larnia. This session was attended by Susan, Alfred, Stevenaia, and Dash and a newcomer.
iwandertoo Resident: hi ssl
iwandertoo Resident: sorry...wasn't scrolling
SophiaSharon Larnia: no problem
iwandertoo Resident: my battery will prob be good for another 20mins
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
--BELL--
iwandertoo Resident: how r u
SophiaSharon Larnia: good, Susan
SophiaSharon Larnia: I think you're out of the recorder range
SophiaSharon Larnia: not that that matters to me
SophiaSharon Larnia: how are you?
SophiaSharon Larnia: welcome back
iwandertoo Resident: ty
iwandertoo Resident: I was sending msgs but they didn't go thru
iwandertoo Resident: how r u?
SophiaSharon Larnia: oh :( that happens to me sometimes
SophiaSharon Larnia: good :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: how are you
iwandertoo Resident: :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Dash
Dash Earthboy: hey Susan & SSL :)
iwandertoo Resident: I'm sitting by the seaside...wet, chilled, smiling
iwandertoo Resident: hi dash
SophiaSharon Larnia: yay
iwandertoo Resident: hehe
SophiaSharon Larnia: assuming chilled is something ya want to be :)
Dash Earthboy: sounds good to me too...it's almost 90 here :\
iwandertoo Resident: nope
SophiaSharon Larnia: ohh grab a big towel :)
iwandertoo Resident: but its all good...got caught in the rain...
Dash Earthboy: hugs Susan to warm her up :)
iwandertoo Resident: I'm waiting for the rest of the retreat team
SophiaSharon Larnia: i love that, as long as Im not traveling a long distance
iwandertoo Resident: ty, dash
SophiaSharon Larnia: oh! you are in Washington???
iwandertoo Resident: yes, at the seaside
iwandertoo Resident: where we are staying
SophiaSharon Larnia: oh nice! I forgot everyone would be arriving now-ish, I just saw an empty pavilion with no one to claim the log
SophiaSharon Larnia: cool!
Dash Earthboy: chilled SSL?
iwandertoo Resident: a local said that we most prob wud c whales
Alfred Kelberry: hi :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: yay
Alfred Kelberry: neko girl :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: @ whales ;p
Dash Earthboy: hey Alf
SophiaSharon Larnia: hello Boxy
Alfred Kelberry: no tail :)
iwandertoo Resident: I got caught in the rain, dash....I'm a little bit chilly now
iwandertoo Resident: hi alfred
SophiaSharon Larnia: i heard it rains a lot in seattle
SophiaSharon Larnia: no tail but the human one, Boxy
Alfred Kelberry: ouch, drink hot tea and keep yourself warm, susan
Alfred Kelberry: :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: yea, I hope you have all of your luggage intact, Susan
iwandertoo Resident: when they get here will do
Alfred Kelberry: you're a still a cute neko girl :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: so can change
SophiaSharon Larnia: aww thanks
SophiaSharon Larnia: lol
--BELL--
Alfred Kelberry: wuff!
Alfred Kelberry: *perks! sees sharon's tail now* :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
iwandertoo Resident: I think I see storm
iwandertoo Resident: going to go
SophiaSharon Larnia: I actually dont like to be touched randomly, even in a virtual world
SophiaSharon Larnia: Oh!! have fun Susan!!!!!
Alfred Kelberry: yay! say hi to stormy :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: say hi for me please lol
SophiaSharon Larnia: lucky ducks
Dash Earthboy: bye Susan
Alfred Kelberry: "touched randomly" :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: yea, happens alot when the tail is on
SophiaSharon Larnia: one of the reasons why I take it off
SophiaSharon Larnia: this one is no mod so I cant just delete the scripts
Dash Earthboy: so some sessions here will have light attendance because of the RL mtg there in Washington?
SophiaSharon Larnia: this time slot is somethings light anyway
SophiaSharon Larnia: sunday afternoon
Dash Earthboy: yah, i could be grocery shopping I guess
Alfred Kelberry: sharon, makes sense
Dash Earthboy: but it's really hot out there today
SophiaSharon Larnia: does it Boxy, i didnt think it did lol
Alfred Kelberry: re: tail :)
Dash Earthboy: :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: im not one of those warm and fuzzy neko's hmm
SophiaSharon Larnia: i guess
Alfred Kelberry: *feels warmth coming from sharon*
Dash Earthboy: grins
SophiaSharon Larnia: giggles
Alfred Kelberry: *and fuzziness*
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Dash Earthboy: need to get Sharon closer to Susan :)
Dash Earthboy: warm her up :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: how do you feel when someone you dont know beeps your nose Boxy?
Alfred Kelberry: heh
Alfred Kelberry: never happened to me so far :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: oh. With tails its different
Alfred Kelberry: it would be... interesting, i guess :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: if thats what you want, then hey, good for them.
Alfred Kelberry: i don't visit random places usually. so those who do touch are very welcome :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
SophiaSharon Larnia: I do, a lot
Alfred Kelberry: but i sure can imagine how annoying it can be when random people do
Alfred Kelberry: wuff!
SophiaSharon Larnia: the fact that it bugs me just reveals my immersiveism, and I shouldnt take it so seriously ^^
SophiaSharon Larnia: ha
Alfred Kelberry: heh
Alfred Kelberry: i think it's cute. a bugged neko kitty :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: it's the same kind of thing as intrusion of personal or emotional space
Alfred Kelberry: oh yes, can relate to that
Alfred Kelberry: i quite like it in finland for this reason as their personal space is vast :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: in my world (culture), people dont go around touching others randomly, so it's easier to hide this aspect of myself from myself
SophiaSharon Larnia: oh really? can you define vast?
Dash Earthboy: alf, i hadn't heard that from my fine finn friends :)
Alfred Kelberry: *imagines a culture of random touchers* :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: lol
Alfred Kelberry: dash, eh... well, my limited experience :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: well, ive heard some cultures have a very small personal space and are demonstrative
Dash Earthboy: alf, you can find that culture of random touchers in most Atlanta bars & clubs :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: haha
Alfred Kelberry: guess when you stick in one place for a while, the personal space gets blurred
SophiaSharon Larnia: are ya sure theyre not just buzzed
Alfred Kelberry: dash, thanks for the tip :)
Dash Earthboy: oh they're that too SSL :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: yea
Dash Earthboy: not much different in the Boulder clubs either, come to think of it :)
Alfred Kelberry: stev! :)
Dash Earthboy: hey Stev
stevenaia Michinaga: hi DAsh, Bpxy, SSL, susan
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Steve :) nice to see you
stevenaia Michinaga: (isn't susan at the retreat?)
Alfred Kelberry: she is
Dash Earthboy: yah Stev
Alfred Kelberry: on her phone
SophiaSharon Larnia: Im not sure what we are discussing, personal space perhaps
stevenaia Michinaga: nice to see you dash, whave you been well?
Alfred Kelberry: stev, you didn't go?
--BELL--
Dash Earthboy: yah Stev, ty...and I met a woman at a Habitat for Humanity event Fri night who needed the warming up Susan needs right now :)
stevenaia Michinaga: to the retreat, no, to far for me, but there have been people asking very nicely if I could attend
stevenaia Michinaga: susan cold?
Dash Earthboy: chilled
Dash Earthboy: wet
stevenaia Michinaga: well, I've heard that about the NW
stevenaia Michinaga: wet
stevenaia Michinaga: as long as the people there are warm
Alfred Kelberry: she's in good storm's hands now. i wouldn't worry :)
Dash Earthboy: yah :)
stevenaia Michinaga: Good of Storn, have you met Storm in RL Boxy?
Alfred Kelberry: not yet
stevenaia Michinaga: Storm
stevenaia Michinaga: Storm
Alfred Kelberry: any candidates for the next year retreats?
Dash Earthboy: he's passed on my such offers since I arrived in colorado :(
stevenaia Michinaga: wait, I did spell it correctly
Alfred Kelberry: stev :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: next year retreats?
Alfred Kelberry: yes, locations
SophiaSharon Larnia: oh. not that I know of
Alfred Kelberry: dash, he refused to meet you?
stevenaia Michinaga: personal space, is that the place of comfort, or the place where if someone comes into it there is discomfort, or both
Alfred Kelberry: how about china?
Dash Earthboy: alf, i'll just say "passed"
Alfred Kelberry: um, alright :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: both, depending on who it is, who's in your personal space
Dash Earthboy: with no counter offers
SophiaSharon Larnia: i have no space at all for most of my family and friends (I meant no barrier, sorry)
SophiaSharon Larnia: (personal space that is), in rl
Alfred Kelberry: am i in your personal space now, stev? :)
stevenaia Michinaga: your choice?
stevenaia Michinaga: My personal space is very open
stevenaia Michinaga: mine to share
stevenaia Michinaga: not a wall
Alfred Kelberry: sophia, do you mean that you're accessible and no personal space stands in between for your friends and family?
SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, most of the time
SophiaSharon Larnia: in rl
Alfred Kelberry: ok
Alfred Kelberry: cause it could be seen in two ways. as if you don't want contact with them - not allow them into your personal space :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: and no matter how much time I spend in sl, most still feel like strangers to me
Alfred Kelberry: is stev a stranger?
SophiaSharon Larnia: oh. I meant if persoanl space is a 2 ft parameter around a person, that parameter does not exist.
stevenaia Michinaga: <-- met SSL in RL, a treat
SophiaSharon Larnia: yes and no
Alfred Kelberry: ah, ok. i think personal space is always there. it's like stev said, you either open it to others or not.
SophiaSharon Larnia: lol Steve thx and you as well
Alfred Kelberry: stev, didn't know that :)
Alfred Kelberry: yet still a stranger?
SophiaSharon Larnia: I cant defend myself here and I wont
stevenaia Michinaga: it's a dilemma, you can open it to all and learn the lessons of making it accessible to those who you shouldn't have let in, or you close it tight and keep it
Alfred Kelberry: no need to defend. just be yourself, sharon :)
Alfred Kelberry: we love you as you are :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: lol
Dash Earthboy: billy Joel song?
SophiaSharon Larnia: any child automatically gets a pass
Alfred Kelberry: dash, don't know this one
stevenaia Michinaga: you are lucky Boxy
SophiaSharon Larnia: I have had good reasons to be guarded in the past
stevenaia Michinaga: or Dash, rather
Alfred Kelberry: heh, how so? :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: just have
stevenaia Michinaga: not knowing Billy Joel song
Alfred Kelberry: ah
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Dash Earthboy: i sing it often
Dash Earthboy: goes over well with just the 12-string
Alfred Kelberry: sophia, think we all have something to guard
SophiaSharon Larnia: well, when you put it that way....
Dash Earthboy: what will it take till you believe in me the way that I believe in you?
SophiaSharon Larnia: i have no idea what I'm guarding
--BELL--
Alfred Kelberry: guarding spots that may hurt you
SophiaSharon Larnia: yea, well
Dash Earthboy: Sting said we often forget how fragile we are
Dash Earthboy: i find much wisdom in such songs
Alfred Kelberry: yes...
Dash Earthboy: i'm not IMing...just working on the company netbook
SophiaSharon Larnia: brb phone
Dash Earthboy: multitasking since childhood :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye for now, have fun you guys
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Dash Earthboy: bye SSL
Dash Earthboy: dang it is past the hour isn't it?
stevenaia Michinaga: time flies here
Dash Earthboy: yah
Dash Earthboy: i'm holding off on grocery trip until late afternoon
Dash Earthboy: riding a bike
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Dash Earthboy: much healthier lifestyle here :)
stevenaia Michinaga: I should go for a walk before it rains
Dash Earthboy: kk
Dash Earthboy: i'm also hanging paintings & posters in my room today
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Dash Earthboy: making it feel more like home :)
Dash Earthboy: put my electric guitar out on a stand in the living room this morning beside my roomies' Ovation guitar
Dash Earthboy: found some good folks to live with here :)
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Dash Earthboy: now I just need a different job
stevenaia Michinaga: nice when companionship in living arrangements works
Dash Earthboy: so we can have more quality time together
Dash Earthboy: yah
--BELL--
Dash Earthboy: glad i have today off
stevenaia Michinaga: finding work is dificult these days
Dash Earthboy: eating better than I can 40 miles away at work location
Dash Earthboy: Colorado is like "job heaven" compared to where I came from in Georgia
Alfred Kelberry: but georgia has peaches :)
Dash Earthboy: now i'm just trying to find something closer to home and using my best skills
Dash Earthboy: amazingly, Colorado has peaches too :)
Alfred Kelberry: ohio?
Dash Earthboy: got em at the farmers market
Dash Earthboy: what about Ohio, Alf?
Alfred Kelberry: your home, is it?
Dash Earthboy: ???
Alfred Kelberry: thought you're from ohio
Dash Earthboy: born there, yes
Alfred Kelberry: you said "find something closer to home"
Dash Earthboy: but came here from GA
Dash Earthboy: have house in Georgia
Dash Earthboy: but "home" is here in Colorado now :)
Dash Earthboy: home has the nice couple, two dogs, and three cats :)
Dash Earthboy: in a 3BR condo
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Dash Earthboy: we pretty much control the common back yard :)
stevenaia Michinaga: First Floor?
Dash Earthboy: nope, second
Dash Earthboy: wonderful view of the mountains :)
Dash Earthboy: the guy bikes 12 miles into work each day
Dash Earthboy: and often takes a longer way home :)
Alfred Kelberry: oh, cool
Dash Earthboy: yah real cool !!!
Dash Earthboy: we walk the dogs down by the river too at night
Dash Earthboy: and this is a real "we" situation :)
Alfred Kelberry: share the pics some time :)
Dash Earthboy: :)
Dash Earthboy: my free presence here doesn't include uploads of pics unfortunately :(
Dash Earthboy: altho I believe someone granted Fcseeker that ability
Dash Earthboy: i can't even maintain profile pics
Alfred Kelberry: you can use any free image service :)
Alfred Kelberry: or dropbox for that matter
Dash Earthboy: tried using some Alf, including the one with Yahoo
Dash Earthboy: couldn't get it to stick between sessions
Dash Earthboy: haven't tried dropbox tho
Alfred Kelberry: hmm
Alfred Kelberry: rather odd
stevenaia Michinaga: i love dropbox for sharing files
Dash Earthboy: i'm using box net more for sharing files these days
stevenaia Michinaga: ask for a reference and they get additional 250 mb storage
Dash Earthboy: seems like I'll get pics loaded into an email's complimentary picture site and then they'll close down that service and transfer me to another
Dash Earthboy: 250M?
Dash Earthboy: hmmm
stevenaia Michinaga: Megabiyes
Dash Earthboy: yah
--BELL--
Dash Earthboy: it's just I have 5G at each Box.Net and 25G at each Skydrive
Dash Earthboy: plus UbuntuOne and others
stevenaia Michinaga: Skydrive, hmmm, never heard of that
Dash Earthboy: i'm pretty spread out these days
Dash Earthboy: Skydrive comes with any Hotmail account
Dash Earthboy: I have 3
Dash Earthboy: so 75G of online storage
Dash Earthboy: with sharing
stevenaia Michinaga: Skydrive for wndows :(
Dash Earthboy: well, Hotmail anyway Stev
Dash Earthboy: I use it with Google Chrome in Ubuntu
Alfred Kelberry: ah, hotmail sounds so 90s :)
Dash Earthboy: heheh Alf :)
Dash Earthboy: i'm just an old fart
stevenaia Michinaga: wow, very techie, Dash
Dash Earthboy: just a simple man wanting to know my options, Stev
Dash Earthboy: i believe in "choose, but choose wisely"
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Dash Earthboy: at my new job, they say "forget that and just put on blinders"
Dash Earthboy: "compartmentalize"
Dash Earthboy: i'm far too holistic for that BS
Alfred Kelberry: oh, not friendly
Dash Earthboy: nope
Dash Earthboy: i've been criticized for honoring "no soliciting" signs
Dash Earthboy: boss says "those are just signs that they are weak willed so exploit that"
stevenaia Michinaga: eek
Dash Earthboy: i respect other people's privacy issues
Dash Earthboy: yah stev, that's why today is a big online job app day for me
Dash Earthboy: boss is leaving us no time to look elsewhere Mon-Sat
stevenaia Michinaga: nods
Alfred Kelberry: as in "don't apologize. it's a sign of weakness" :)
Dash Earthboy: they changed the location to 40 miles from here (2x my max commute specified at interview)
stevenaia Michinaga: wait, they say that on my favorite tv show
Dash Earthboy: yes Alf
Alfred Kelberry: excuse me, what show is that? :)
stevenaia Michinaga: NCIS
stevenaia Michinaga: Navy crime show
Dash Earthboy: I thought it was the "Lie to Me" show?
Alfred Kelberry: ah
Dash Earthboy: maybe both?
Alfred Kelberry: xfiles was the only show i watched. wait. i lie. also firefly.
Dash Earthboy: NCIS-LA too?
stevenaia Michinaga: not so much
Dash Earthboy: i liked x-files :)
Dash Earthboy: still catch reruns
Alfred Kelberry: it was awesome! :)
Alfred Kelberry: scully, so cutely skeptical md :)
stevenaia Michinaga: funny characters
Dash Earthboy: yep
Dash Earthboy: scully and muldur
stevenaia Michinaga: Xfiles, yes
Alfred Kelberry: eh, feel nostalgic about it...
Alfred Kelberry: the 90s
stevenaia Michinaga: is susan still here? her phone battery must be dead by now
Alfred Kelberry: heh
Dash Earthboy: yah, but who's gonna believe you?
Alfred Kelberry: yes, indeed. still there :)
Dash Earthboy: re: Xfiles storyline
Dash Earthboy: ah, yes i see she's still here but I thought she was in RL spending time w/Storm
Dash Earthboy: at the retreat
Dash Earthboy: the session now was already claimed by someone else
stevenaia Michinaga: nods
Dash Earthboy: SSL wasn't it?
stevenaia Michinaga: yes
Alfred Kelberry: the storyline is rather silly as i look at it now. aliens, abductions, colonization... but back then as a kid i was enchanted :)
--BELL--
Dash Earthboy: hope susan has a good battery in that phone :\
philogene Resident: Namaste
Dash Earthboy: munchkin?
stevenaia Michinaga: hello philogene
Alfred Kelberry: philo :)
stevenaia Michinaga: have you been here before?
philogene Resident: Hello! No, I have not.
Alfred Kelberry: welcome to "play as being" :)
stevenaia Michinaga: we record our conversations here and post them on the groups wiki, is that ok to include you?
philogene Resident: Thats fine.
stevenaia Michinaga: thanks you, we meet 4 times a day at 7 and 1 am and pm
Alfred Kelberry: i take it you find interest in philosophy? :)
Alfred Kelberry: wait, i think it was dash
Alfred Kelberry: i didn't make it :)
stevenaia Michinaga: his voice goes on now and then
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Alfred Kelberry: ah
philogene Resident: Yes I do. So the recordings occur at those times or is it continous?
Alfred Kelberry: shortly after the session
Alfred Kelberry: usually
stevenaia Michinaga: nods, they usually end after an hour or so, we are on the "or so" time now
Alfred Kelberry: if a session guardian isn't slacking :)
philogene Resident: Ah I understand. I'll have to return at 7 then.
Alfred Kelberry: drop in at any time :)
stevenaia Michinaga: or any 1 or 7, we are still recording from the 1:00 session
Alfred Kelberry: you can find folks here chatting
philogene Resident: Excellent. :)
Alfred Kelberry: is philo a professional interest of yours? any particular topics?
stevenaia Michinaga: I see this is your first day in SL, welcome
Alfred Kelberry: ah, a newborn :)
Alfred Kelberry: or reborn? :)
philogene Resident: Thank you! Yes, I'm trying to figure out things here at SL. Philo is more of a leisure interest rather than professional.
stevenaia Michinaga: I must go start the grille for dinner, see you soon
Alfred Kelberry: nom :)
stevenaia Michinaga: nice meeting you Phil
philogene Resident: Very well, take care and bon appetit.
Alfred Kelberry: grill well, stev :)
philogene Resident: You too Stevenaia
Dash Earthboy: guess I should also head for the grocery store
Dash Earthboy: nice to see y'all today
philogene Resident: Same here, take care Dash.
Dash Earthboy: pax et bonum y'all
Alfred Kelberry: eh, pax well, dash
Alfred Kelberry: i was about to start a topic, but...
Alfred Kelberry: next time i guess :)
Alfred Kelberry: nice to meet you, philo
Alfred Kelberry: come back at 7 pm
philogene Resident: You too, boxy!
Alfred Kelberry: wuff!
Alfred Kelberry: :)
philogene Resident: Hi Susan
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