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2011.11.10 13:00 - Antibiotic poop and Grey Goo
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The Guardian for this meeting was SophiaSharon Larnia. The lack of comments are by SophiaSharon Larnia.
Korel Laloix: Heya
oO0Oo Resident: hey! Osiyo Korel
Korel Laloix: Big crowd today.
Korel Laloix: Just the beautiful people so far.... smiles
oO0Oo Resident: maybe in a few minutes.. more will come :)
oO0Oo Resident: aw
oO0Oo Resident: ::laughs::
Korel Laloix: Actaully, I have been a cloud only in my view for about two weeks now.
oO0Oo Resident: really?
Korel Laloix: Yes.
oO0Oo Resident: which viewer?
Korel Laloix: Even changing viewers.
oO0Oo Resident: oh
oO0Oo Resident: interesting
oO0Oo Resident: do you use a shared cache folder?
oO0Oo Resident: Yay :)
Korel Laloix: Heya
oO0Oo Resident: SSL !
--BELL--
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Korel, hi O :)
Korel Laloix: Not shared no.
SophiaSharon Larnia: 17/ sophiasharon@xxxx
SophiaSharon Larnia: oops
oO0Oo Resident averts eyes
SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
oO0Oo Resident: slash comes first SSL
SophiaSharon Larnia: yep thanks !
SophiaSharon Larnia: sleepy
Alfred Kelberry: a-ha!
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Boxy :)
Alfred Kelberry: neko girl is back :)
oO0Oo Resident: wuff!
SophiaSharon Larnia: eureka Boxy??
SophiaSharon Larnia: hey quit poking my tail
Alfred Kelberry: *clicks sharon's tail* :)
Alfred Kelberry: haha
SophiaSharon Larnia: :P
Alfred Kelberry: how do you know?
SophiaSharon Larnia: its an ancient chinese secret
Alfred Kelberry: it's not working :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: how is everybody?
Alfred Kelberry: kori? anything new on the bio-front?
Alfred Kelberry: i'm good. tired.
Korel Laloix: Read an interesting artical on some bacteria that only feed on other pacteria.
Korel Laloix: Bactgeria.
oO0Oo Resident: good thanks SSL... brb..
Korel Laloix: So a potential for a new sort of antibiotic really.
Alfred Kelberry: ah, like cannibals?
Korel Laloix: So lagged I can't see what I type until after I hit enter.
Korel Laloix: Yes.
Alfred Kelberry: cool
SophiaSharon Larnia: me too Korel, it just started
SophiaSharon Larnia: and googling bactgeria lol
Alfred Kelberry: how do current antibiotics work?
SophiaSharon Larnia: and chemical breakdown the particle bacteria and renders in ineffective
SophiaSharon Larnia: the*
SophiaSharon Larnia: sorry typos
SophiaSharon Larnia: lag
Korel Laloix: IN short terms, antibiotics are the poop of certain antibiotics that inhibit the growth of others, so they reduce competition for nutrients.
SophiaSharon Larnia: brb
SophiaSharon Larnia: have to relog
Korel Laloix: ok
oO0Oo Resident: back
Alfred Kelberry: hmm, not sure i get that, kori
SophiaSharon Larnia: sheesh
Alfred Kelberry: so you take antiboitic poop, then what?
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Wol
Alfred Kelberry: wb, neko girl :)
Wol Euler: antibiotic poop? I got here just in time.
SophiaSharon Larnia: ty
Alfred Kelberry: woly the hooves :)
Wol Euler: O.O
Wol Euler: not a neko :)
Korel Laloix: lol
SophiaSharon Larnia: ive never heard of antibiotic poop Boxy
Alfred Kelberry: yes, woly. kori is giving a lecture.
Wol Euler: hello boxy, sophia, korel, sam
Korel Laloix: No, the poop is the antibiotic.
Alfred Kelberry: neko girl is sharon! :P
SophiaSharon Larnia: ok k
Wol Euler: oh, I'm sorry :)
Alfred Kelberry: kori, ok, so we take this poop, then what?
Alfred Kelberry: how does it inhibit growth?
Korel Laloix: The activity of the antibiotic then inhibits the growth of other organisms.
Korel Laloix: There are verious ways they work.
Alfred Kelberry: you mean the poop eats up all the nutrition?
Alfred Kelberry: and the bad bacteria left starving?
oO0Oo Resident thinks humorously about the lines that sometimes meet us when we first TP to a session, aswell as the potential titles for this one so far ;)
SophiaSharon Larnia: me too O hahaha
Wol Euler grins
Korel Laloix: lol
oO0Oo Resident: lol
Alfred Kelberry: kori, correct?
Wol Euler: perhaps the origin of the otherwise inexplicable expression "a shit-eating grin"
Korel Laloix: No, the poop prevents other organism from developing.
SophiaSharon Larnia: i never did get that one
Alfred Kelberry: kori, how?
Korel Laloix: Leaving the pooping organism less competition.
Alfred Kelberry: hmm
Alfred Kelberry: does anyone get it?
Wol Euler: eliza! yay
SophiaSharon Larnia: does this have to do with bactergia. and i dont
Alfred Kelberry: kori, what's the mechanics of it?
oO0Oo Resident: yes.. think i got it
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Eliza
Korel Laloix: There are different mechanism.
Alfred Kelberry: eliza :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi :)) Nice to see you all
oO0Oo Resident: Hi Eliza.. welcome
Korel Laloix: Some are effected in their metabolism, some in cell replication, some effecting the cells walls, etc.
--BELL--
SophiaSharon Larnia: Eliza, I guess we're talking about antibiotics
Wol Euler: shhhhh
Wol Euler smiles.
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks much, Sharon, I'll hold onto my surf board and listen to catch the wave :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: still have a huge amount of lag
oO0Oo Resident waits for SSL
SophiaSharon Larnia: waiting for?
oO0Oo Resident: for lag to catch up
SophiaSharon Larnia: sorry, wasnt typing
Alfred Kelberry: kori, so the poop actually attacks the bacteria?
Wol Euler: the answer "boxy, look it up, I have no idea" would be entirely valid :)
Korel Laloix: It more interfears with their normal function.
Korel Laloix: In some cases, the antibiotic kills the cell, in others it just keeps it from reproducing.... thus giving the immune system time to adapt and work.
Alfred Kelberry: a-ha. and now with the invention of the cannibalistic bacteria they can simply goble the bad guys?
Alfred Kelberry: woly, shhh :P
Korel Laloix: Possibley... it is just a line of reserach.
Alfred Kelberry: cool
Alfred Kelberry: so they would produce more poop :)
Korel Laloix: In this case, it would be an active attack by one sort of bacteria on another.
Alfred Kelberry: awesome
SophiaSharon Larnia: everything in a battle for life
Korel Laloix: We will see what happens.
Alfred Kelberry: i guess our temperature would raise when it happens
Alfred Kelberry: *nods to sharon*
Korel Laloix: The body raising its temp is a way that the body fights the infection by being at a temperature outside of the bacteria's normal reproduction thermal comfort.
Alfred Kelberry: even suicide is a search for a better life
Alfred Kelberry: kori, cool
Eliza Madrigal: what a line, Boxy
Alfred Kelberry: *wants the bio workshop in kira* :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: yes Boxy
SophiaSharon Larnia: (re: what a line)
Korel Laloix: One of the big problems now is antibiotic resistance.
SophiaSharon Larnia: ive thought of it as more a want to escape than i search for a better life
Korel Laloix: So new forms need to be found.
SophiaSharon Larnia: a*
SophiaSharon Larnia: yes Korel, superbugs...scary
Alfred Kelberry: kori, how come they adapt so quickly recently?
Korel Laloix: Mass missuse and incomplete courses of drugs.
oO0Oo Resident: !
Alfred Kelberry: gah
Alfred Kelberry: i'm not particulary thorough with pills
Korel Laloix: Simply put, all life has an instinct for survival and replication.... so if there is a will, there is a way.
Alfred Kelberry: kori, what about nano pills?
Alfred Kelberry: you program them, let in and they kill the bad guys
Korel Laloix: YOu mean ingested micro robots?
Alfred Kelberry: yep
Korel Laloix: I have read on those before, a long way off.
Wol Euler: hey, I saw that movie :)
Alfred Kelberry: yay!
Korel Laloix: But I can't reject the concept.
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Zon
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Zon :)
oO0Oo Resident: Hi Zon !
Wol Euler: hello zon
Alfred Kelberry: kori, it's the best concept! it would be immune to bacteria adaptation
Alfred Kelberry: hi, zon
Zon Kwan: hie everybody
--BELL--
Korel Laloix: No it would not.
Alfred Kelberry: :/
Wol Euler: shhhh :)
Wol Euler: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_goo
SophiaSharon Larnia: you do like poking me Boxy
Wol Euler: (about the "not necessarily" just then :)
Alfred Kelberry: kori, ok, how do they find the bad guys?
Alfred Kelberry: yes, grey goo is awesome
Alfred Kelberry: neko :) you're so... pokable :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: gray goo? its so strange
Alfred Kelberry: not really
Korel Laloix: Find bad guys?
Alfred Kelberry: it's like cancer. just artificial.
Wol Euler: exaactly
Wol Euler: a very apt simile
Alfred Kelberry: kori, yes. how do the poop knows what to disrupt?
oO0Oo Resident: orders come down from the poop deck ?
Alfred Kelberry: *pushes woly's button*
Wol Euler laughs.
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Korel Laloix: Oh, it is in a certain concentration in teh bloodstream... So it touches all the cells... but they only attack the bacteria, leaving the host cells untouched.
Alfred Kelberry: sam, that's in case of nano robots :)
oO0Oo Resident: lol
Alfred Kelberry: kori, how do they mark the bad bacetria?
Alfred Kelberry: um, identify
Korel Laloix: They don't.... not to oversimplify, but the antibiotics only attack cells that have cell walls.
Korel Laloix: Animal cells do not have cell walls...
Alfred Kelberry: ah
Alfred Kelberry: fascinating
Korel Laloix: So the antibiotics don't affect the host.
Alfred Kelberry: well, then nano bots would be very effective
Alfred Kelberry: you find the wall, mark it for deletion
Alfred Kelberry: then, another bot frags it
Korel Laloix: It could be..... but I am sure that bacteria will find a way to resist.
Alfred Kelberry: um, can the current poo use heuristic to fight the bacteria?
Alfred Kelberry: or it's cut out for one single action?
Eliza Madrigal cannot wait to see the title for this session :)
Wol Euler grins.
Alfred Kelberry: :P
SophiaSharon Larnia: sighs :)
Alfred Kelberry: my point it, the nano bots could
oO0Oo Resident: "poop" is to this session as _______ is to the movie scarface
Alfred Kelberry: *is
Wol Euler: ha!
Eliza Madrigal: hehe
Wol Euler: now there is a meme with legs.
Alfred Kelberry: sam, well, bubbles in champagne are poop too :)
oO0Oo Resident: lol
SophiaSharon Larnia: define the word as you intend it, because i dont understand
Alfred Kelberry: kori knows
Korel Laloix: Champagne tastes like.
Alfred Kelberry: heh
Korel Laloix: Never seen scarface.
Korel Laloix: brb
Alfred Kelberry: sharon, bubbles are gas that is by product of... little organisms
Alfred Kelberry: yeast family?
Alfred Kelberry: oh, that
Alfred Kelberry: eh, kori left :/
SophiaSharon Larnia: never heard of it
SophiaSharon Larnia: ok, moving on :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
--BELL--
Alfred Kelberry: *continues playing with sharon's tail*
SophiaSharon Larnia: brb :)
Alfred Kelberry: :)
oO0Oo Resident: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=poop
oO0Oo Resident: Hi Bruce :)
Alfred Kelberry: bruce :)
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, everyone!
Alfred Kelberry: guys have you used voice conference in sl?
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bruce :)
Eliza Madrigal: sure, Boxy
Alfred Kelberry: i wonder, how do you talk in there without being heard in-world
Wol Euler: hello bruce
Wol Euler: never used it, but it seems to work ok
Alfred Kelberry: i mean that thing that bruce just did
Wol Euler: it's one of the few things one never hears people complaining about :)
Alfred Kelberry: hmm
Wol Euler: what did he do?
Bruce Mowbray: I only did it for Wokkers, Boxy - - and that's only because one of my antlers got caught in the new-fangled SL viewer.
Eliza Madrigal: it just switches... the window place you have open is the one that is activated
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Alfred Kelberry: heh
Alfred Kelberry: yes, sorry, woly
Alfred Kelberry: ah
Alfred Kelberry: hmm
Bruce Mowbray: hmmmm.
Wol Euler: no need to apologise, I've turned voice off in any case
Alfred Kelberry: hmm
Alfred Kelberry: it hides the window
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Bruce
Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Sharon!
Bruce Mowbray: What did I rudely interrupt?
SophiaSharon Larnia: nothing much bruce, we were talking about antibitoics
Alfred Kelberry: kori was giving a lecture on antibiotics
Alfred Kelberry: then she had to go
Bruce Mowbray looks for Kori...
Alfred Kelberry: now there's a little vacuum
Alfred Kelberry: we need another expert
Bruce Mowbray: oh. Well, I can honestly say that antibiotics saved my typist's life a few months ago.
Wol Euler: was she lecturing, or was she being badgered by rectangular questioners?
Eliza Madrigal: hehehe
SophiaSharon Larnia: nods at Bruce
Wol Euler: indeed, bruce!
Alfred Kelberry: *pats bruce*
Alfred Kelberry: good to hear
Wol Euler: and very glad that they did, too
Alfred Kelberry: woly, i think it was a nice conversation
Eliza Madrigal: antibiotics in their right measure and time, are wonderful... many resort to them over every cold, though
Bruce Mowbray: . . . TY! But they also did a lot of mischief in the process. . . but onward (dust off and get back on the horse).
Eliza Madrigal: and we use anti-bacterials like crazy
Wol Euler: it was, boxy :)
Eliza Madrigal: yes, thanks boxy for your impromtu theme session with Korel :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: sorry I have to go, bye for now
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Sharon, glad to see you
SophiaSharon Larnia: have fun
Eliza Madrigal: *Sophia
Bruce Mowbray: Bye, Sharon!
SophiaSharon Larnia: you too :)
Eliza Madrigal: :) smiles
Wol Euler: bye sharon, take care
Bruce Mowbray: Ways of Knowing in 6 minutes.
oO0Oo Resident: I think the overuse of Anti Biotics is revealing in how big pharma has its way with doctors and agricultural (animal feed) practices
oO0Oo Resident: Bye SSL
Bruce Mowbray wishes that gin could be substituted for anti-biotics. . . . effectively.
oO0Oo Resident: late bye to Korel
Bruce Mowbray: Bye, Korel!
Eliza Madrigal: is that part of a series, Bruce 'ways of knowing in '7 minutes', '9 minutes', '10 years'
Wol Euler: bye korel
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bruce Mowbray: ha ha!
Wol Euler: :)
Bruce Mowbray: That reminds my typist of "The Fabric of the Cosmos" on PBS last night (and also tonight).
Bruce Mowbray: Gotta move on over to the Cafe.
Eliza Madrigal nods re feed practices too
Bruce Mowbray: All be well and safe from anti-biotics!
Eliza Madrigal: OK, Bye for now Bruce, be well
Wol Euler: bye bruce
Wol Euler: actually, I'll go too
Wol Euler: by everyone else :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)) Bye Wol
oO0Oo Resident: Bye bruce, Wol :)
Eliza Madrigal: and Boxy who must be away or he would go too
Alfred Kelberry: auf, woly :)
Alfred Kelberry: go?
Alfred Kelberry: oh...
Alfred Kelberry: wok
oO0Oo Resident: maybe Boxy is pooped after that long discussion
Eliza Madrigal: wok to wok
Alfred Kelberry: sorry, distracted in im
Eliza Madrigal: hehe
Alfred Kelberry: :)
oO0Oo Resident: :)
Alfred Kelberry: we all poop now and then
Alfred Kelberry: and i'm going to leave you with this picture :)
Alfred Kelberry: :P
Alfred Kelberry: um, bye :)
oO0Oo Resident: bye Boxy :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: :)
oO0Oo Resident: Hi Mick :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Mick :))
Mickorod Renard: Hi oOOOo
Mickorod Renard: Hi Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: off to wok with you I know :)
Mickorod Renard: isnt it Wok?
Mickorod Renard: yep
Mickorod Renard: how are you boyth?
Eliza Madrigal: yes, glad you came :) I can't stay the whole time today so didn't wander over
Eliza Madrigal: fairly well friend, you?
Mickorod Renard: oww,,even a minute or two may be fun?
oO0Oo Resident: thanks .. good Mick
Mickorod Renard: \i am great thanks
oO0Oo Resident: :)))
Mickorod Renard: :)))
Eliza Madrigal: :)) yes well when you say it that way it is tempting
Mickorod Renard: ok,,i had best get there
Eliza Madrigal: but like one m-n-m
Eliza Madrigal: :)) OK Bfn
Mickorod Renard: ok,,see ya,,take care
oO0Oo Resident: :)))
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