2012.12.16 07:00 - Art and Beauty

The Guardian for this meeting was Bleu Oleander. The comments are by Bleu Oleander.

Bleu Oleander: 's current display-name is "Bleu".
--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal: 's current display-name is "Eliza".
Bleu Oleander: hi Eliza :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bleu :) quiet morning?
Bleu Oleander: hi Eliza :)
Bleu Oleander: yes
Eliza Madrigal: you are red!
Bleu Oleander: hehe yes
Eliza Madrigal: done with clarity already?
Eliza Madrigal: heheh
Bleu Oleander: seasonal :)
Eliza Madrigal: oh, of course!
Bleu Oleander: clarity filled up
Bleu Oleander: nice
Bleu Oleander: some last minute pieces
Eliza Madrigal: great... have to look today
Bleu Oleander: great exhibition
Eliza Madrigal: maybe we should keep roller skates at the dome in the rest of the seasons
Eliza Madrigal: it is a fun gathering/play place during winter
Bleu Oleander: haha!
Bleu Oleander: would lose their specialness
Eliza Madrigal: true... sigh :)
Bleu Oleander: I've been reading "the picture of Dorian Gray" by Oscar Wilde
Bleu Oleander: some very interesting themes
Eliza Madrigal: have seen the film but never read the book
Bleu Oleander: art being one of them
Eliza Madrigal: what is it sparking for you?

Bleu Oleander: what is the meaning of art?

Eliza Madrigal: figured it out?
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: haha nooooo!
Bleu Oleander: fun to try though
Eliza Madrigal: a timeless question
Eliza Madrigal: it is like asking what is the meaning of our world?
Bleu Oleander: also the individual and expressions of self
Bleu Oleander: the sacrifice of one’s self ....
Bleu Oleander: leads to one’s destruction
Bleu Oleander: also a theme
Bleu Oleander: the shallowness of a society that bases itself on superficial things ... another theme
Eliza Madrigal: more in there than I remember :)
Bleu Oleander: yes!
Eliza Madrigal: art is one way that an introvert's voice may be heard more clearly
Bleu Oleander: had not realized that it was as interesting
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bleu Oleander: so that's a question in the book

Bleu Oleander: is the role of art to reveal the artist?

Eliza Madrigal: but where does an artist end and the rest of the world begin
Bleu Oleander: yes .... is art an extension then of the artist?
Bleu Oleander: a continuum toward the viewer?
Bleu Oleander: an unbroken connection?
--BELL--

Xirana Oximoxi: 's current display-name is "Xirana".
Eliza Madrigal: yes, without the connotations often given to it I think of artists as channelers
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Xiri :)
Bleu Oleander: hiya Xiri
Bleu Oleander: gave you a NC
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Bleu,, Eliza :)

Bleu Oleander: we're talking about art
Bleu Oleander: it's meaning
Xirana Oximoxi: nice subject:))
Bleu Oleander: knew you would like it :)

Eliza Madrigal: I may take my kids to see the play "My Name is Asher Lev" - that is quite an art questioned filled book as well
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Bleu Oleander: i'm reading "the picture of Dorian Grey"
Bleu Oleander: art is a big theme
Xirana Oximoxi: ahh I did long ago:)
Bleu Oleander: Oscar Wilde was part of a movement in art
Xirana Oximoxi: but this book has a more important meaning than the art itself...specially related to our ego

Bleu Oleander: he said art's meaning is beauty

Bleu Oleander: oh yes
Bleu Oleander: self, ego, morals etc.
Bleu Oleander: lots of themes
Xirana Oximoxi: yes:)
Bleu Oleander: very fun to think about
Eliza Madrigal: "Anyone who lives within their means suffers from a lack of imagination" <-- favorite Wilde quote :)
Bleu Oleander: many Oscar quotes :)
Eliza Madrigal: yes, quite a character
Bleu Oleander: indeed

Eliza Madrigal: if one says art's meaning is beauty then one has to define beauty?

Bleu Oleander: "My Name is Asher Lev" never saw that

Xirana Oximoxi: I think I will read the book again... sure now I will reread it in a different way as some years ago

Bleu Oleander: yes, reading now with a different mind
Bleu Oleander: yes, so what is beauty?
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: "frustrated symmetry" is one answer I like
Bleu Oleander: perhaps a future AofB theme?
Bleu Oleander: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: you mean beauty, Eliza? = 'fustrated symetry?
Bleu Oleander: another theme ... the influence of people and things
Eliza Madrigal: yes... it is what someone said to me while looking at zen gardens
Bleu Oleander: on one's self
Eliza Madrigal: rock gardens... racked gravel and then one spot that was 'off'
Eliza Madrigal: raked*
Bleu Oleander: to some the "off" spot might be beauty
Eliza Madrigal: yes the off spot was the aha
Eliza Madrigal: the twist... but needed the larger nearly perfect context
Bleu Oleander: i'm attracted to "off" spots
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Eliza Madrigal: me too
Eliza Madrigal: "character"
Xirana Oximoxi: I am not sure to understand the 'off spot' :)
Bleu Oleander: sometimes not for my own good haha!
Xirana Oximoxi: language problem:)
Bleu Oleander: something out of sync perhaps?
Eliza Madrigal: sparks curiosity
Bleu Oleander: not symetric?
Bleu Oleander: irregular?
Eliza Madrigal: yes, like a perfectly lined up face without blemishes wouldn't seem 'real'
Bleu Oleander: surprizing?
Bleu Oleander: not a familiar pattern?
Eliza Madrigal: or a familiar pattern that is slightly changed
Eliza Madrigal: and one doesn't exactly know how - so draws curiosity
Bleu Oleander: yes
Eliza Madrigal: oops, better send guardian session note
Bleu Oleander: have you seen the new pieces in the dome Xiri?
Bleu Oleander: all full now
Bleu Oleander: oh yes, almost time!
Bleu Oleander: the hour went so fast today!
Bleu Oleander: too much to think about hehe
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: ok so off to the mtg :)
Eliza Madrigal: thank you Bleu, always interesting
Xirana Oximoxi: yes... I've taken my time today to visit and read all notecards
Bleu Oleander: thank you!
Xirana Oximoxi: amazing and interesting
Bleu Oleander: yes
Eliza Madrigal: see you in the hall
Bleu Oleander: ok
Xirana Oximoxi: ok...see you there:)