The Guardian for this meeting was Eos Amaterasu. The comments are by Eos Amaterasu.

Eos Amaterasu: --Bell--

stevenaia Michinaga: greeetings
Eos Amaterasu: hi stevie
stevenaia Michinaga: do you celebrate christmas?
Eos Amaterasu: hmm, I guess a superset of Christmas
Eos Amaterasu: solstice
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Eos Amaterasu: darkness and light
stevenaia Michinaga: gives you the jump on things, at least it's a holiday that stands still
Eos Amaterasu: there's buddhist and catholic traditions to acknowledge in my greater family
Eos Amaterasu: plus there's a kind of asynchronous mutli-cultural convergence at this time of year
Eos Amaterasu: each a different language
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
stevenaia Michinaga: nods, I find it amusing that my holidays are either late or early, they are never on time for anyone else
Eos Amaterasu: sounds like the white rabbit
stevenaia Michinaga: even when christian holidays are follow some directly (easter
stevenaia Michinaga: but the white rabbit is never early
Eos Amaterasu: hmm.... must go ask Alice
stevenaia Michinaga: was having a conversation the other day wondering hold old Grace Slick is
stevenaia Michinaga: asked google, 73
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Eos Amaterasu: go ask google, I think she'll know
stevenaia Michinaga: smiles
Eos Amaterasu: we are such accidental stuff
Eos Amaterasu: the earth is tilted
Eos Amaterasu: and so we have seasons
Eos Amaterasu: which we celebrate
Eos Amaterasu: 'tip of the old earth to us!

--BELL--

stevenaia Michinaga: did you see that video I linked yesterday
Eos Amaterasu: oh, I saw the first one, but not the second
stevenaia Michinaga: seems the mayas were happilly counting cycles
stevenaia Michinaga: there was a second one? This was the National Geographic vid
Eos Amaterasu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YcJY22wFpFg ?
stevenaia Michinaga: yes
Eos Amaterasu: use the knowledge of the past to guide the future
Eos Amaterasu: we see cycles, eventually build clocks
Eos Amaterasu: the imagination sees cycles
Eos Amaterasu: gives them names
stevenaia Michinaga: labels
Eos Amaterasu: but also a name can be a "spell", conjure up something
Eos Amaterasu: like a story that re-creates
Eos Amaterasu recalls the awesomeness of story telling in the dark, perhaps by a fire
stevenaia Michinaga: looks for fire... no pocket
Eos Amaterasu: no fire in inventory?
stevenaia Michinaga: just my feet
Eos Amaterasu: magic fire music....
stevenaia Michinaga: not quite sure it has the same affect
stevenaia Michinaga: stories around the burning feet
stevenaia Michinaga: one thing that is missing in storytelling is repitition, the way we remember things to pass them on
Eos Amaterasu: we have that in music
stevenaia Michinaga: now it;s all in a book, seems to negate the need for a story to be retolsd by another
stevenaia Michinaga: yes
Eos Amaterasu: the meaning story needs to be retold every day..... (muses)
Eos Amaterasu: even if "with no direction home, like a rolling stone...."

--BELL--

Eos Amaterasu: Do you have a seasonal story, Stevenaia?
stevenaia Michinaga: thinking, not at hand
Eos Amaterasu: there's so many stories based on the seasons... Persephone....
Eos Amaterasu: may be more than a story "about"
stevenaia Michinaga: but a very interesting questions :) seems we all should
Eos Amaterasu: may be a story "from"
stevenaia Michinaga: all stories have a season
stevenaia Michinaga: a place in some season
stevenaia Michinaga: marked overtly or not so overtly by a season
Eos Amaterasu: friend of mine did this: http://ilianastory.com/songs.html
stevenaia Michinaga: like a background that hold a story in place
Eos Amaterasu: filling in the details of "once upon a time"
Eos Amaterasu: we are surrounded by the season
Eos Amaterasu: the dark starts early and goes away late
stevenaia Michinaga: as does the light
Eos Amaterasu: the light starts late in the morning, goes away early in the evening
Eos Amaterasu: "shall we go then you and I, through the transitive nightfall of diamonds...." :-)
Eos Amaterasu: there's life hiding in the dark, and it bursts into points of light
stevenaia Michinaga: would have never guessed that source
Eos Amaterasu: of the quote?
stevenaia Michinaga: yes
stevenaia Michinaga: the Dead
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
stevenaia Michinaga: Greatful Dead

--BELL--

Eos Amaterasu: when I first saw the Grateful Dead, my comment was "pirates playing Bach"
stevenaia Michinaga: interesting how when presented with the written music by your friend, how static is it (notes on a page). you almost expect more
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: I had friend who followed them in the 70's and cllected concerts on tape
stevenaia Michinaga: friends
stevenaia Michinaga: I think there is now an online archive of many of their concerts
Eos Amaterasu: archive.org
stevenaia Michinaga: I typed that before I saw that :)
Eos Amaterasu: naming is everything :-)
stevenaia Michinaga: smiles, and the destroyer of everything
Eos Amaterasu: a name can open something up
Eos Amaterasu: or be a substitute for opening to it

Eos Amaterasu: maybe in the darker season more of the dreamtime is prominent
stevenaia Michinaga: nods, more time in the dark
Eos Amaterasu: the imagination of words and songs is more active
Eos Amaterasu: painting our world, our identity
stevenaia Michinaga: for some darkness creates sadness anda time of deeper thinking
Eos Amaterasu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where_Do_We_Come_From%3F_What_Are_We%3F_Where_Are_We_Going%3F
Eos Amaterasu: stories need to touch those questions in us for them to be real
Eos Amaterasu: poignancy of realizing the infinitude of space around us

--BELL--

Eos Amaterasu: thanks, and ciao, stevenaia
stevenaia Michinaga: on that note I'll bid you good night
Eos Amaterasu: good nite!