2011.07.29 07:00 - Title goes here

The Guardian for this meeting was Lucinda Lavender. The comments are by Lucinda Lavender.

iwandertoo Resident: waves
Riddle Sideways: oh hi, was off in another window :)
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: was wondering about where ppl were for this session?
Riddle Sideways: Hi Luci
Lucinda Lavender: Hi !so sorry but slept in!!
Riddle Sideways: s'ok
Riddle Sideways: better for you
iwandertoo Resident: waves :)
Lucinda Lavender: I have had a very busy week ...with friends here from out of town...
Riddle Sideways: how nice
Riddle Sideways hums "old friends"
Lucinda Lavender: yes...very nice...new ppl I had ownly known through computer and skype
Riddle Sideways: Hi Ewan
Lucinda Lavender: so pretty exciting to meet in RL
Lucinda Lavender: HI Ewan:)
Riddle Sideways: can imagine
Lucinda Lavender: They came from Texas
iwandertoo Resident: waves
Riddle Sideways: Texas is (mostly) a nice place
Ewan Bonham: Hi all!
Lucinda Lavender: interesting that you can become close even through phone and computer
Riddle Sideways: but Oklahoma is OK
Ewan Bonham: I do believe there is an energy here which is very real..:)
Riddle Sideways: yes, was watching you trouble trying to sit, Ewan
Lucinda Lavender: yes Ewan...
Lucinda Lavender: will claim this as I was late but am so glad you are all here!
Riddle Sideways: please say more, Eqan
Riddle Sideways: *ewan
milakel Resident: hi :)
iwandertoo Resident: waves
Lucinda Lavender: the real ness of energy here...
milakel Resident: no storm today
Riddle Sideways: littl Mila :)
Lucinda Lavender: Hi Mila
Ewan Bonham: I am sorry...what would you like me to expound upon?
Ewan Bonham: The energy here?
Ewan Bonham: And how it is transmitted?
Lucinda Lavender: yes if you might have more to say
Ewan Bonham: Well, I think as I am interacting with other avis, I can almost feel their hearts and spirits..
Ewan Bonham: Each one seems to differ..
Ewan Bonham: And it does not have much to do with what they said...:)
milakel Resident: ewan, how they look? :)
Ewan Bonham: Does anyone else have that experience?
Lucinda Lavender: Yes I do...
Ewan Bonham: It also does not seem to matter how the avi looks..
Ewan Bonham: It is a presence...
milakel Resident: i like when riddle has a cute elephant avi
Riddle Sideways: :)
Lucinda Lavender: :)
milakel Resident: or when luci has her cosmic dress :)
Ewan Bonham: Smile...
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Riddle Sideways: but, not locked into one look
Riddle Sideways: the same energy is there
Riddle Sideways: to be tasted
milakel Resident: i think you can't dismiss the appearance unless you can't see the object (or avi)
Lucinda Lavender: you think about what presents itself in each moment and there is kind of an unfolding/evolving presence yes
Ewan Bonham: Appearance has a bearing on my impressions but this sense of presence seems totally a separate thing for me..
Lucinda Lavender: sometimes it reminds me of flowers that open and close
milakel Resident: poetic :)
Ewan Bonham: nods..
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: yes the separate presentation from/with the appearance
Ewan Bonham: Yes..
Riddle Sideways: the A&P of APAPB
Lucinda Lavender: we can take away the avi's appearance..which acts as a place holder or something...but when taken away...there is a the attention maybe that the person at the keys demonstrates...
milakel Resident: may i ask how you define 1. appearance and 2. presentation in this context? ewan, riddle?
Riddle Sideways: but A&P was a grocery chain too
Riddle Sideways: :)
iwandertoo Resident: :)
Lucinda Lavender: :)))was thinking same
Riddle Sideways: like using a text-only SL viewer sometimes
Riddle Sideways: and still "knowing" ya'll
Lucinda Lavender: Luci listens...
Riddle Sideways: grok
milakel Resident: it's cause you have prior experience
Riddle Sideways: then the experience of meeting those avs and voices in RL
Riddle Sideways: let Luci is doing
milakel Resident: still, what's the difference in appearance and presentation?
Ewan Bonham: For me , that does not entirely account for all of the impression. It does feel like energy..
milakel Resident: riddlish :)
Riddle Sideways: @ Mila, you can refer to the piles of logs that discuss APAPB
milakel Resident: i don't know what apapb is
milakel Resident: is there a succinct definition? :)
milakel Resident: or just in your words. how do you see it?
Riddle Sideways: "succinct" hmmmm...
Riddle Sideways: as succinct as PaB gets
milakel Resident: :)
Riddle Sideways: Appreciate the presence of appearance as a presentation by Being
milakel Resident: ahhh!! now i get it :)
milakel Resident: or not :)
Lucinda Lavender: I remember early in the Time sessions there was talk about it I think...
Riddle Sideways: way back in '08 we kicked that around a lot
milakel Resident: oh, 08
Lucinda Lavender: I see
Riddle Sideways: ya get 134 hits from the search box
Lucinda Lavender: wow!
milakel Resident: popular thing
milakel Resident: i suppose it's one of those things that can't be described, but only discussed
Ewan Bonham: Smile...Mila
milakel Resident: :)
milakel Resident: or experienced
milakel Resident: but then, you have to know what it is you experience to notice
Lucinda Lavender: Interesting...am just remembering my dream...
milakel Resident: dream lady :)
milakel Resident: do tell us
Lucinda Lavender: and was standing outside a church...hearing a person..say they were related to Pema...
Lucinda Lavender: and I thought and then said I know Pema:) well sort of...
Lucinda Lavender: I know his avatar...
milakel Resident: appearance or presentation of pema? :)
Lucinda Lavender: Yeah...exactly
milakel Resident: never seen pema in a dream
milakel Resident: i guess it's a good sign, luci :)
Lucinda Lavender: this was Pema's reletive....
Riddle Sideways: hmmm, might have had a very simular dream
Riddle Sideways: slightly different spelling too :)
Lucinda Lavender: really...I also felt the place was New York City
milakel Resident: did you talk to him?
--BELL--
iwandertoo Resident: (waves...best to everyone)
milakel Resident: susie :)
Lucinda Lavender: nice to see you Susan:)
Ewan Bonham: Oh, I will be leaving as well to go to another meeting...:)
Lucinda Lavender: nice to see you Ewan:0
Ewan Bonham: Nice seeing you all!
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Riddle Sideways: bye susan and ewan
Riddle Sideways: want to hear about dream, but RL has entered this office
Lucinda Lavender: I think in the dream it was like overhearing someone speak of Pema as a relative might ...
milakel Resident: another meeting?
milakel Resident: what did they say, luci?
Lucinda Lavender: standing at a boundary and hearing someone say...I am Pema's watching Pema's children ...
milakel Resident: huh?
Lucinda Lavender: like a sister or something might say...
Lucinda Lavender: standing at the fence
milakel Resident: hmm
milakel Resident: kind of odd :)
Lucinda Lavender: sorry too many Pemas...
Lucinda Lavender: in that sentence
milakel Resident: pemapemapema :P
Lucinda Lavender: Ha ha!
Lucinda Lavender: I have been thinking about boundaries...and such
milakel Resident: i wonder if he feels the energy of us talking about him right now :)
Lucinda Lavender: when we hear someone speaking over the fence...and add to it...it does seem to make it stronger...
milakel Resident: we should ask if he felt something weird at 8 am slt :)
Lucinda Lavender: more flow
Lucinda Lavender: ok...
milakel Resident: make it stronger, luci?
Lucinda Lavender: same dream had some small crocodiles to watch over...
milakel Resident: oh, boundaries. sorry.
milakel Resident: hehe
milakel Resident: tiny crocs :)
Lucinda Lavender: yes:)
milakel Resident: maybe tuny crocs are guardians
Riddle Sideways: ah, Pema's kids are crocks :)
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Lucinda Lavender: who know!
milakel Resident: and you look over the session schedule :)
milakel Resident: riddle :)
Riddle Sideways: Pema's sisters' kids are crocks
milakel Resident: gah! this is such a complicated drema, luci! :)
Lucinda Lavender: was concerned for them being strong enough to open doors
Lucinda Lavender: these little crocks
Lucinda Lavender: they were inside a house in the dream..not by the fence tho...not Pema's maybe
milakel Resident: hehe
Riddle Sideways: tiny Echer B&W crocks
milakel Resident: dreams are the stories from the parallel universe
Riddle Sideways: that can go under doors
Lucinda Lavender: wanted to make sure the croc's did not eat my cats etc
milakel Resident: hehe
Lucinda Lavender: :)
milakel Resident: this is cute, luci :)
Lucinda Lavender: luci giggling:)
Lucinda Lavender: dreams can be fun
milakel Resident: cats with little crocs would make a hit on youtube!
Riddle Sideways: wonder if it is the dream that jumps around or the memory of fragments of a continuous dream
milakel Resident: hmm
Riddle Sideways: anything with cats is a hit on youTube
Lucinda Lavender: yes Riddle!
Lucinda Lavender: Husband and I were trying to contain the crocs:)
milakel Resident: riddle, interesting. it seems to me that it jumps whenever.
Lucinda Lavender: safely...
Riddle Sideways: maybe
milakel Resident: litke a broken teleporter
milakel Resident: can fire up at any time and send you away
Riddle Sideways: (miss Faenik syaing "it could be")
Lucinda Lavender: to me it seems that in a dream lanscape it is kind of like a weave...with threads
Lucinda Lavender: folding under and over influencing
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: yes
milakel Resident: i wonder if people appreciated each other more if we could teleport away any moment
Lucinda Lavender: INterestingly...with New York city there was the park conversation by the fence, and it connected to a part about where my grand mother lived when whe was there ...if she was...
Lucinda Lavender: searching through associations and history...
milakel Resident: random bits of memory
Lucinda Lavender: there was a sort of Harry Potterish feel to where she stayed in new york
Riddle Sideways: :)
Lucinda Lavender: I think mention of Pema on a friday morning was interesting too..as he held the Time Session slot there for so long...
Riddle Sideways: really like the weave of memory image
Lucinda Lavender: some new some old
Riddle Sideways: a rich blanket the conscienceness flys over
Lucinda Lavender: flying to Infinity and Beyond
Lucinda Lavender: ha
Riddle Sideways: an afgan with like a ruler/straight edge lain onto it
Riddle Sideways: where the edge touches
Riddle Sideways: comes into the dream
Lucinda Lavender: points of intersection there
Riddle Sideways: into the ADD (Adult distraction disorder)
milakel Resident: add
milakel Resident: hmm
Lucinda Lavender: nodding...sometimes see the dream as a mending process for the planket
Lucinda Lavender: blanket
Riddle Sideways: taking a new thread and knitting it in to fix up a hole
Lucinda Lavender: where loose threads get rewoven back in
Lucinda Lavender: and tied off
Lucinda Lavender: reconnected
Riddle Sideways: "... fixing a hole were the rain gets in"
Riddle Sideways: "and keeps my mind from wondering
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Lucinda Lavender: love the song
Riddle Sideways: how it will goooo go
Lucinda Lavender: the dream feels also to me like a cloak you put on during sleep
Lucinda Lavender: that in waking fals away sort of
Riddle Sideways: sort of (or maybe not)
Lucinda Lavender: yeah
Lucinda Lavender: Pema's relative...
Lucinda Lavender: well we all come here and relate
Riddle Sideways: or not to relate :)
Riddle Sideways: sometimes hearing the words and not getting them
Lucinda Lavender: yes...often so for me...
Riddle Sideways: sometimes relating deeper then thought ___
milakel Resident: folks, i'm off
Riddle Sideways: me, too
milakel Resident: thank you for the dreams and... apapo... well, that thing :)
Lucinda Lavender: yes me too...
Riddle Sideways: :)
Lucinda Lavender: thank you all:)
Riddle Sideways: bye all and thanks