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    Archmage Atlantis: All we are, we are
    --BELL--
    Aphrodite Macbain: WB arch!
    Archmage Atlantis: namaste sister
    Aphrodite Macbain: How are the animals?
    Archmage Atlantis: determined
    Aphrodite Macbain: lol
    Archmage Atlantis: They think this world has a future
    Aphrodite Macbain: Good for tham
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Fc
    Archmage Atlantis: nasty buggers all
    Aphrodite Macbain: Who?
    FcSeeker Resident: Hello Aphrodite Archmage
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hello Stevenaia
    FcSeeker Resident: Hello stevenaia
    stevenaia Michinaga: hi Fc, Aphrodite, Arch
    Aphrodite Macbain: a day of rest Steve?
    stevenaia Michinaga: always, busy day of rest
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-) laundry etc?
    stevenaia Michinaga: friends, food, nap... and laundry
    Archmage Atlantis: God scoped, as they say in the UK....or something like that.....2 ppl seperated by a c ommon language
    Aphrodite Macbain: One of my favourite things to do today is go to the farmers market
    FcSeeker Resident: hi Korel
    Aphrodite Macbain: welcome korel
    Korel Laloix: Heya
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, shopped this morning at local farmer's market
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hello Cosmic flower
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Korel
    FcSeeker Resident: Hello Comiscflower <3
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Hi Dears ***<3<3<3***
    Archmage Atlantis: Sister Cos, long time no see
    Aphrodite Macbain: what did you get Steve?
    stevenaia Michinaga: hi cosmic, nice to see you after such a long timee
    Archmage Atlantis: <*
    stevenaia Michinaga: I don't shop, just carry the apples, etc
    Aphrodite Macbain: lol
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Thanks, same words Dears
    stevenaia Michinaga: drink coffee, eat fresh croissants
    Aphrodite Macbain: are there musicians singing or playing?
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes
    Archmage Atlantis: eat fresh coconuts?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Aph.
    stevenaia Michinaga: think this is one of the oldest continuous Farmers Markets in the country
    Aphrodite Macbain: what is that on your head Bruce?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bruce
    FcSeeker Resident: hi Zon
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Zon
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Arch.,Fc, Korel, Cos, Zon and steve.
    Korel Laloix: Heya
    stevenaia Michinaga: hi Bruce, Zon
    Aphrodite Macbain: Cosmic - I think you left your arm band over Bruce's head!
    Zon Kwan: hi guys and gals
    FcSeeker Resident: just got a message which I'd want to share...
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Hey ;)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Please share Fc

    Kindness

    FcSeeker Resident: Tomorrow, Sunday September 18, is the International Day of Kindness. WISHING YOU HAPPINESS; MAKE SOMEBODY HAPPY. Pass it on.
    stevenaia Michinaga: am I a cloud to everyone or just me?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I see cloud
    stevenaia Michinaga: Thank you Fc
    Bruce Mowbray: you're a "cloud" to me too, steve.
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Yes. You can celebrate at perfect paradise
    Aphrodite Macbain: by thowing all your unkind thoughts into a bonfire
    FcSeeker Resident: I see you also as the cloud steve
    Bruce Mowbray: There seems be a large tail-like thingie hanging over Fc
    Aphrodite Macbain: I see you perfctly clearly Steve
    Aphrodite Macbain: That tail like thingie is Cos' armband
    Bruce Mowbray: actually, steve looks more like an egg than a cloud to me.
    stevenaia Michinaga: hmmm, perplexed, if I rebake, I see me w/o a top clothing on
    Bruce Mowbray: How long are Cos' arms, then?
    stevenaia Michinaga: what do you see now?
    Bruce Mowbray: ahhh! Thou art a beauty, steve!
    stevenaia Michinaga: smiles
    FcSeeker Resident: now I also see you perfectly <3
    Aphrodite Macbain: Is there any particular subject people would like to raise?
    stevenaia Michinaga: thank you
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: my arms.. hmm
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: long ;)
    Aphrodite Macbain: if not, why dont we talk about kindness?
    Aphrodite Macbain: often it comes with the adjective "loving"
    Aphrodite Macbain: HHDL often talks about loving kindness to all beings
    stevenaia Michinaga: usually it is how difficult some people find it to be kind, that is perplexing as there there is little to gain from being unkind
    stevenaia Michinaga: Kindness always come back
    stevenaia Michinaga: like raining hearts :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: and kindness like love, never runs out
    --BELL--
    Zon Kwan: kindness can be mixed with weakness by those who want to exploit and use pple for their needs and purposes
    stevenaia Michinaga: that is not kindness, that is kindness abuse
    Zon Kwan: be kind but don't let others exploit you
    Bruce Mowbray: Hmmmm. . . Kindness requires clarity . . . lest it become abuse in the name of goodwill.
    stevenaia Michinaga: it only appears as kindness as a deception
    Korel Laloix: If you act kind, expecting someone to act back the same way, you are not actualy being kind.
    stevenaia Michinaga: nods
    Korel Laloix: You have to expect nothing in return to have real kindness on you heart.
    Zon Kwan: yes
    stevenaia Michinaga: what you get back is not payment for kindness, it is the goodness that you were kind
    FcSeeker Resident: <3
    Zon Kwan: kindness doesnt mean to be a doormat
    Archmage Atlantis: I have struggled with those thoughts
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: its in human nature to feel need to love/ be kind and receive
    Archmage Atlantis: Nimbus comes to me in my dreams
    Aphrodite Macbain is reminded of the phrase "sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind" and wonders what that means
    Archmage Atlantis: Yet Chester is here
    Bruce Mowbray: You were always kind to Nimbus, Arch, now perhaps he is returning that -- or trying to.
    Aphrodite Macbain: I dont think kindness necessarily means "niceness"
    Zon Kwan: nods
    Aphrodite Macbain: it perhaps means acting with a being's best interests at heart
    FcSeeker Resident: yes Aphrodite
    Zon Kwan: i am very kind but i am not nice
    Archmage Atlantis: aaaaaai think, Aph, it means sometimes feline kind, is felt to another as cruel
    Aphrodite Macbain: can you give me an example Zon?
    Bruce Mowbray doubts that we are capable of knowing anyone's best interests.
    FcSeeker Resident: and sometimes such may feel to be hurting from the receiver
    FcSeeker Resident: like it's said that friends tells if somebody does something 'bad/wrong'
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Zen.
    Zon Kwan: wow zen
    Zen Arado: Hi all
    Zon Kwan: hippie ?
    Aphrodite Macbain: but perhaps we attempt to consider other's best interests Bruce.
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Hi Zen ;)
    FcSeeker Resident: Hi Zen
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Zen. We're talking about kindness and what it means to each of us
    Bruce Mowbray: for sure, Aph.... but what some think is empathy could be projection.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Today is the International Day of Kindness
    Zen Arado: they are having a kindness day at Perfect Paradise tomorrow
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes but then how do we act Bruce. Do we do nothing?
    Bruce Mowbray: Better to BECOME the kindness -- and just be that in relation to others.
    Archmage Atlantis: I think there may a meditation I am called to....to all of you, I give my love, as I can understand it
    Zon Kwan: for example a beggar asks you money, its nice to give him some but is also kind, as you know he is going to drink them ?
    Aphrodite Macbain: I dont know what that means Bruce "become the kindness"
    Bruce Mowbray: be thee well, Arch. and chester too.
    stevenaia Michinaga: bye Arch
    Aphrodite Macbain: You could give the beggar a sandwich
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, San!
    Zen Arado: Hi Santo
    FcSeeker Resident: bye Arch
    Aphrodite Macbain: a smile and a sandwich
    FcSeeker Resident: Hello san
    Santoshima Resident: hey! hello everyone
    Aphrodite Macbain: just acknowledging them is kind
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi San
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello San
    Bruce Mowbray: In a sense, "I" disappers and the kindness takes over.
    Aphrodite Macbain: hmmm
    Zen Arado: kindness is giving?
    FcSeeker Resident: hi Susan
    Bruce Mowbray: Giving the sandwich might be wonderful -- if the kindness gives it.
    stevenaia Michinaga: giving of yourself
    Zon Kwan: if u know the beggar is part of organised business ?
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Sue!
    Aphrodite Macbain: I feel that kindness is a form of action taken with good intentions
    iwandertoo Resident: hi team
    Santoshima Resident: hi coach!
    Zen Arado: Hi Susan
    Aphrodite Macbain: I can think of times when I have been unkind and those times I acted in some way that hurt another
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Pauw89
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hiya Susan GTSY
    Bruce Mowbray: we all can think of those times, Aph. thanks for reminding us of that.
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I think kindness is to be kind even in those times when there is thunder above the head
    Aphrodite Macbain smiles
    Zon Kwan: yes kindness is the intention behind the act
    Aphrodite Macbain: it's even harder to be kind then
    Zen Arado: kindness is not being unkind too
    iwandertoo Resident: kindness goes hand--in-hand with honesty
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and in those times also when there is hard
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: when all seems to be dark
    iwandertoo Resident: (it may not feel kind at times....but it is)
    Aphrodite Macbain: there are "unkind thoughts" too
    Zen Arado: acting for someone's best interest
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes zen
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: if then person is capable to keep Ones kindess , I think that is True kindess
    Bruce Mowbray: So if kindness gives the money in the church collection plate, but the pastor spends that money on drugs or a prostitute (it HAS ben done!), then I still know that I have been kind, because my intentions were kind.
    Aphrodite Macbain: when you say keep, do you mean maintain Cos?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I mean if You are already kind
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and when there comes things "unkind" and You still can "be" kind..
    Zon Kwan: one shoul also use ones intelligence
    Santoshima Resident: yes
    Zon Kwan: in act
    --BELL--
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: is maintain same than achieve
    Zon Kwan: no pearls to swine
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes I would think so Bruce, kindness is connected to the person who performs the act of kindness. sometimes the action creates problems or has bad results, but nevertheless the act was kind
    Aphrodite Macbain: shh sorry
    Korel Laloix: wado
    Santoshima Resident: whose blue fishy?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bruces-Blub
    Santoshima Resident: ah
    Santoshima Resident: thought it might be someone new, kindness welling up ...
    Aphrodite Macbain: So tomorrow at Perfect Paradise people are invited to throw all their unkind acts, thoughts etc into a big bonfire...
    Aphrodite Macbain: and start again
    Zen Arado: would need a daily bonfire I think
    Santoshima Resident: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: lol Zen
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: well,
    Aphrodite Macbain: I would doubt it
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: what if making a fire daily
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
    Aphrodite Macbain looks around for a fireplace
    Bruce Mowbray: That's a wonderful ritual, Aph - - - eerrrrr,, wonderful ceremony and celebration.
    Zon Kwan: we need..its called daily mindfulness
    stevenaia Michinaga: we can cast them in the fountain here
    Aphrodite Macbain: Speaking about kindness, behind me is the fledgling peace poem we are working on
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I was sitting on the fire outside with other scout leaders few days ago, there were full moon and people around. Felt like something "came home"
    Bruce Mowbray: I shall begin by throwing in all my illusions of "I" and "other."
    Aphrodite Macbain: Please send me two lines if you would like to add to the poem. You can IM me. Since last night I have received three more!
    Bruce Mowbray checks out the Peace Poem.
    Zen Arado: advertising pays
    Aphrodite Macbain: Lovely Cosmic
    Aphrodite Macbain: what came home Cosmic?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: well,
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: that feel
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: You know
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ?
    Aphrodite Macbain: hmmmm, no
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I can`t explain
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: "home" I mean home in heart
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: not my material home
    FcSeeker Resident: like for example this thought; 'this is why I was born'
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ***<3<3<3 thanks <3<3<3***
    Aphrodite Macbain: Oh, yes. I understand now Itthink
    Bruce Mowbray: Sitting around the campfire is an ancient experience that I allude to in my Profile. That is also what we are doing here -- except the fire is a fountain.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Home is where the hearth is..
    FcSeeker Resident: <3<3<3
    stevenaia Michinaga: Home is not a place but a state of being
    Zen Arado: where the heart is?
    Aphrodite Macbain: as well Zen
    FcSeeker Resident: and people with Cos 'turned to be one heart with the fire and love'
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ahh, thats true
    FcSeeker Resident: it's all over in your spirit, soul and mind
    Aphrodite Macbain: warmth, flying heavenward with sparkles
    Zon Kwan: where your presence is
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: all those people, I can not explain the feel how I enjoyed to be with them there
    iwandertoo Resident: someone has my heart
    iwandertoo Resident: ponders
    iwandertoo Resident: ;)
    Aphrodite Macbain: I think it's in our genes
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and I saw the "first time" them in this life time
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: it was strong feel
    Zen Arado: be nice if everyone had our heart
    FcSeeker Resident: <3
    Aphrodite Macbain: I get a similar feeling when I sit with people and listen to some kinds of music
    FcSeeker Resident: brb

     

    Fire

    Bruce Mowbray: You and those around that campfire plugged into an ancient archetype -- we did that for thousands of years before there were cities and General Electric.
    Aphrodite Macbain: connected through experiencing some form of beauty
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah yes Bruce ;)
    Aphrodite Macbain: connected by sight, sensation, sound
    Bruce Mowbray: I am so happy for you that you had that experience!
    Zon Kwan: connected by the collective presence
    Aphrodite Macbain: I think we all yearn for connection
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I love fire
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I have been in scouts when I was a child about 11 years
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and then there came a pause, and now my own kids started to talk about it
    FcSeeker Resident: fire is one form of the spirit in human world
    FcSeeker Resident: being also the spirit
    Aphrodite Macbain wishes she could build a big bonfire where the fountain is
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and thought... yessss
    Zon Kwan: fire cleanses
    FcSeeker Resident: to connect 'our body' which is mostly 'water' and our spirit which is fire
    Aphrodite Macbain: fire destroys also
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I felt in love with "fire" when I was about 7 year old
    Zon Kwan: and reforms
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I saw a dream
    Aphrodite Macbain: it is part of hell's make up
    Aphrodite Macbain: a dream?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: there were house burning me inside and I saw a person who had a clothes of worror
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: this person was "he" in my dream..
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and felt deeply in love at age of 7
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I think this person was that spirit of fire
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: when I woke up
    FcSeeker Resident: <3
    Bruce Mowbray: Both fire and love consume us.
    Zon Kwan: and reforms us
    Aphrodite Macbain: can be destructive and constructive
    Zon Kwan: love ?
    Bruce Mowbray: . . . and purifies us.
    Aphrodite Macbain: transformative, one way or the other
    Aphrodite Macbain: we have come a long way from kindness... or have we?
    Zon Kwan: not destrucive ?
    --BELL--
    Aphrodite Macbain: let'as think about this
    Bruce Mowbray "drops" and invites kindness to consume him.
    Aphrodite Macbain: shhh
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)

     

    Chosing to Smile

    Aphrodite Macbain: I find that simply wearing a smile can fill your heart with kindness
    Aphrodite Macbain: I catch myself in windows walking with a frown.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Am trying to be present and mindful and change that to a smile
    Zon Kwan: lets all smile now and see how it feels
    Bruce Mowbray: OH APH! I was just thinking about the window thing this afternoon!
    Zon Kwan: ahh..
    Aphrodite Macbain: Smile!
    Zon Kwan: realxes
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes Bruce?
    Bruce Mowbray feels GOOD!
    Aphrodite Macbain: yayy
    Bruce Mowbray: a choice to smile -- and a choice to feel good.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Try it walking down the street. People smile back!
    Zen Arado: maybe hardest is to be kind to ourselves

    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! Korel
    Bruce Mowbray: bye Korel.
    Zon Kwan: one can choose
    Zon Kwan: to smile or frown
    Korel Laloix: Take care all
    Santoshima Resident: bye Korel!
    Zen Arado: bye Korel

    Aphrodite Macbain: Yes it is a choice Zon. I agree
    Bruce Mowbray: just knowing that we have a choice, Zon, makes all the difference.
    FcSeeker Resident: bye Korel
    Aphrodite Macbain: A smile can be an easy form of kindness but a powerful one
    Santoshima Resident: being relaxed helps, whether one's facial muscles allow one to smile or not
    Aphrodite Macbain: It's true San
    Aphrodite Macbain: It takes fewer muscles to smile than to frown apparently
    Zon Kwan: but when u deside to smile, your muscles obey
    Santoshima Resident: some folks' can and some cannot
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)))))
    Santoshima Resident: that's just the way it is
    Bruce Mowbray can!
    Santoshima Resident: to be at ease and relaxed goes a long way toward extending that outward into the world
    Zon Kwan: all can if they will
    Aphrodite Macbain: One of the hardest things that people sitting on the street find is that they are ignored. I try and make an effort to smile at them and acknowledge them
    Santoshima Resident: well certain conditions do not allow that
    Santoshima Resident: we are not all the same
    Bruce Mowbray: (btw -- If anyone wants to have a Peace Dove t-shirt like the one I'm wearing, just let me know. I have LOTS!
    Zon Kwan: our will is different
    Bruce Mowbray: Internation Day of Peace is only four days away.
    FcSeeker Resident: I know several people who's got much probs to smile and their mouth and face uses to 'twist' when they try...
    Santoshima Resident: parkinson's disease, for example, limits facial mobility

    Zen Arado: I have to go
    Zen Arado: bye all
    FcSeeker Resident: bye Zen
    Bruce Mowbray: bye Zen
    iwandertoo Resident: tc, zen

    Aphrodite Macbain: Yes, also if we are feeling sad, angry, hurt we tend to look inward and not smile or acknowledge strangers but the very act of smiling can sometimes transform that feeling, especially if the other person smiles back
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: By Zen
    Santoshima Resident: not to assume that a smile needs to be external
    stevenaia Michinaga: brb
    Santoshima Resident: of course, that's not what I meant quite
    Aphrodite Macbain: San?
    Santoshima Resident: a close friend, for example, has great difficulty controlling facial expression
    Santoshima Resident: smiles are extended in a full body way
    Santoshima Resident: happiness and ease are expressed differently than with a big facial "smile"
    Santoshima Resident: does that help?
    Aphrodite Macbain: a bit; I'm still trying to imagine what that looks like
    Santoshima Resident: ?
    Bruce Mowbray: but have you noticed, San, that when you close fiend becomes the kindness, you can still experience that and appreciate it? --- regardless of the facial expression.
    Aphrodite Macbain: shoulders back, open palms
    Santoshima Resident: of course, that is what I'm saying ...
    Aphrodite Macbain: tone of voice perhaps?
    Santoshima Resident: brunce
    Santoshima Resident: brunce
    Aphrodite Macbain: lol
    Bruce Mowbray: friend* SRY.
    Santoshima Resident: yes, it's simple (but typing is not ...)
    Aphrodite Macbain: lol interesting typo
    Bruce Mowbray: typing is my SL downfall. Need to forgive fingers again and againa.
    Zon Kwan: yes againa and againa
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Dears. I need to go to sleep
    stevenaia Michinaga: night Cosmic
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Good nights
    Bruce Mowbray dies from laughing....
    Santoshima Resident: good night Cosmic blossom!
    FcSeeker Resident: sweet dreams <3
    Santoshima Resident: rest well
    Zon Kwan: bye all
    Aphrodite Macbain: Nite night
    Aphrodite Macbain: don't die Bruce (bruce dies of laughing)
    Bruce Mowbray: G'night all who leave -- and go with kindness - and AS kindness.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Kind Bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Mick!
    FcSeeker Resident: hi Mickorod
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Guys
    --BELL--
    Mickorod Renard: how u all doin?
    Mickorod Renard: oops
    Santoshima Resident: hi mickorod ~
    Mickorod Renard: hi
    Bruce Mowbray is having trouble seeing everyone --- hopes for folks sitting closer together... (but no obligation, of course.)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Mickorod
    Aphrodite Macbain: There we all are!
    Bruce Mowbray: ty!
    Santoshima Resident: maybe we could sit closer to you, susan?
    Mickorod Renard: kindness..its quite a deep subject
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes we've been talking about it for about 30 minutes
    Bruce Mowbray listens for a fresh view from Mick.
    Mickorod Renard: well....
    Mickorod Renard: I think in my earlier years i thought it was a requirement so that one may receive it in return
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Mickorod Renard: but these days it is something that I prefer to give, if posible, without question or seeking reward
    Mickorod Renard: ans oddly, i seem to feel happy being kind and that is reward anyway
    Aphrodite Macbain: kindness is its own reward?
    Mickorod Renard: I think so
    Aphrodite Macbain: Tomorrow is International Kindness Day Mick
    Aphrodite Macbain: something new, right Fc?
    iwandertoo Resident: seems silly to me
    Mickorod Renard: its like choosing a river to flow down and finding it a nice flow anyway
    Aphrodite Macbain: why silly Susan - any more than International Human Rights day?
    iwandertoo Resident: i think international kindness day is silly (for me)

    FcSeeker Resident: just love to sit between :)))

    Santoshima Resident: Fc :)))))

    FcSeeker Resident: <3

    Aphrodite Macbain: an Fc sandwich lol
    FcSeeker Resident: giggles


    Aphrodite Macbain: yes, but I think the purpose is to encourage awareness and discussions on the topic, and, who knows, new actions taken as a result
    iwandertoo Resident: doesnt resonate

    Mickorod Renard: I can reveal something I have found about myself though,,re kindness
    Mickorod Renard: sometimes when I find things are going wrong,I get frustrated and get the desire to be unkind,to let off steam, but I cant do it now

    stevenaia Michinaga: why not? Mick
    Aphrodite Macbain: you can't do it now because of a new awareness?
    Mickorod Renard: I dont know for sure
    FcSeeker Resident: ...steam melting to cool water here ?
    stevenaia Michinaga: letting go of frustration is the key
    Mickorod Renard: perhaps
    iwandertoo Resident: seeing/understanding the contradiction and recognizing the error
    FcSeeker Resident: mostly the truth is that frustration is caused by not seeing what's truly happening in one's life...
    Mickorod Renard: I dont think you have to pass on your frustrations to others,,you can just drop it
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes. awareness
    Santoshima Resident: yes
    iwandertoo Resident: nods
    Aphrodite Macbain: emotional intelligence?
    Santoshima Resident: the "leave it alone" approach
    FcSeeker Resident: when comes to 'between' people it's to see more of the truth ...
    stevenaia Michinaga: the only thing for me worse than unkindness is realizing it after I am unkind, and usually there is no reason for it
    Aphrodite Macbain: the "don't stoke the flame' approach
    Aphrodite Macbain nods at Steve
    Mickorod Renard: I think its relative too,,what a kind person see's as their unkindness may not be that bad anyway,,but just feels it
    iwandertoo Resident: nods
    Aphrodite Macbain: If it feels bad to them then it's real I guess
    FcSeeker Resident: ...deja vu'...
    stevenaia Michinaga: how it feels should be the arbitor of kindness/unkindness
    iwandertoo Resident: disagree...
    Mickorod Renard: I think I am more unkind to myself,,I need to work on that
    iwandertoo Resident: just feelings
    iwandertoo Resident: ?
    iwandertoo Resident: emotions deciding kindness?
    iwandertoo Resident: only?
    FcSeeker Resident: think not
    --BELL--
    FcSeeker Resident: it's also the choice
    Bruce Mowbray will drop frustration now.
    Aphrodite Macbain: you mean rational judgement as well Susan?
    Aphrodite Macbain: 90 seconds...
    stevenaia Michinaga: shhh
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)

    Bruce Mowbray relates closely to Mick's difficulty in forgiving himself.
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Mickorod Renard: without knowing how everyone else feels,,inside their heads,,its hard to know how one should feel about things
    Aphrodite Macbain: We are our own drivers in the end and act alone

    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! San
    Santoshima Resident: bye folks, thank you for this ~ shantih
    Mickorod Renard: bye santa
    Santoshima Resident: hohoho
    Aphrodite Macbain: shantih
    iwandertoo Resident: tc, santoshima
    stevenaia Michinaga: bye San
    FcSeeker Resident: waves to san
    Mickorod Renard: I must go too,,just wanted to check Micko the avi out,,he has been resurrected
    Bruce Mowbray: Bye, Mick --WONDERFUL offerings today! Thank you!
    iwandertoo Resident: tc, Mickorod
    stevenaia Michinaga: bye Mick, gtsy
    FcSeeker Resident: bye Mick
    Mickorod Renard: my pleasure,,thankyou all
    Mickorod Renard: byeeeeeee
    Aphrodite Macbain: Nice you were able to come Micko
    Aphrodite Macbain: Poof
    Aphrodite Macbain: I have this 18 lb cat that I keep having to move off my keyboard
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Thank you all for your kindness and participation

    Aphrodite Macbain: I must go and do a few kind deeds in RL now.
    FcSeeker Resident: waves to Aphrodite
    stevenaia Michinaga: enjoy
    iwandertoo Resident: tc, aphrodite
    Bruce Mowbray: Bye, Aph!
    Aphrodite Macbain: IM me if you have two lines of poetry to add!
    stevenaia Michinaga: toughto fit lines comfortably among for me
    Bruce Mowbray: I love poetry -- so I have a bit of a "problem" writing two lines to "ADD" to what is there.
    Bruce Mowbray: Nevertheless, I have done so, but they are not in the poster yet.
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    iwandertoo Resident: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: Poetry is new to me, barely can apprciate it let along write it with intent
    iwandertoo Resident: love poetry...
    Bruce Mowbray: Here is what I wrote for the Peace Poem:
    Bruce Mowbray: Peace reveals herself to us as flowers bloom to fields: With hushed - though aching - vivid voice that full acceptance yields.
    Bruce Mowbray: (obtuse, no?)
    iwandertoo Resident: i like it bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: ty! I really should be getting some supper together.
    Bruce Mowbray: So, may you all be well and happy and kind!
    stevenaia Michinaga: bye Bruce
    iwandertoo Resident: tc, bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: bye for now.
    FcSeeker Resident: waves to Bruce
    FcSeeker Resident: here's what I wrote
    --BELL--
    FcSeeker Resident: ...silence...shh....silence....melody of love
    FcSeeker Resident: melody bringing the peace...shh...silence...shh
    iwandertoo Resident: :)
    FcSeeker Resident: takes a humble bow
    FcSeeker Resident: namaste
    iwandertoo Resident: tc, fcseeker

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