The Guardian for this meeting was Lucinda Lavender. The comments are by Lucinda Lavender.Attending were Alfred, Bleu, Darren, Dash, Eliza, Malinson,  Xirana, Yaku....and visible as a halo Stevenaia.

Darren Islar: bye everyone leaving
Pema Pera: bye everybody!
Bleu Oleander: bye Pema :)
Eliza Madrigal: Where will you be, Luci?
Lucinda Lavender: I will be looking for someone to step in....Graduation in DE and then new york
Eliza Madrigal: Sounds wonderful
Eliza Madrigal: Off hand, I think I can do it

Eliza Madrigal: yay :D
Lucinda Lavender: yes ! Yay!
Bleu Oleander: sounds fun Luci
Lucinda Lavender: intern
Bleu Oleander: intern at the Met?
Lucinda Lavender: yes
Darren Islar: (is not really here, I'm afraid)
Lucinda Lavender: American Wing
Bleu Oleander: wonderful
Lucinda Lavender: yes!
Bleu Oleander: oh how nice is that!
Darren Islar: met?
Lucinda Lavender: the Museum yes
Bleu Oleander: metmuseum .org
Bleu Oleander: I love their American wing
Lucinda Lavender: so many things in process
Lucinda Lavender: Cool Bleu:)
Lucinda Lavender: what have you seen?
Bleu Oleander: don't forget to check out the roof exhibition
Lucinda Lavender: ok...
Bleu Oleander: wonderful view up there
Darren Islar doesnt' understand the discussion
Lucinda Lavender: DArren...there is this museum in NYC The Metropolitain Museum of Art...
Eliza Madrigal: Darren, Luci's grown daughter will be an intern at the Met museum in NY
Lucinda Lavender:  will be an intern for the next year after she graduates
Eliza Madrigal: wonderful opportunity (oh, sorry to step on chat toes)
Bleu Oleander: Anthony Caro on the roof
Lucinda Lavender: is ok:)
Lucinda Lavender: who is anthony?
Darren Islar: thanks )
Xirana Oximoxi: oh! thanks for asking panther!! I also didn't understand well... congratulations Luci!! sounds fantastic!
Bleu Oleander: will have to stop in to see her when in NYC this fall Luci
Darren Islar: and in it are Wings?
Lucinda Lavender: Luci is a preschool teacher so does not know her artists so much:)
Darren Islar: (sorry, will stop my stupid questions :))
Eliza Madrigal: I've covered such a small section of the Met... missed almost all of it, proportionally
Lucinda Lavender: please do Bleu:)
Eliza Madrigal: :) though I have wandered for horus
Eliza Madrigal: *hours
Eliza Madrigal: Not Horus, hehe
Lucinda Lavender: 3.5 million objects?
Xirana Oximoxi: no no... keep asking!!! :))
Bleu Oleander: Met is "home" to me :))
Darren Islar: but I'm happy for you and your daughter
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Lucinda Lavender: wow...Bleu...thank you Darren
Lucinda Lavender: it is way outside my experience
Lucinda Lavender: so am gearing up...dream of cockroaches:)
Bleu Oleander: hahaha
Bleu Oleander: bedbugs too
Lucinda Lavender: yes:)
Eliza Madrigal: It was after returning from the first Met trip that I made my 'infinite possibilities' board at home, that the kids love... was so inspired. It tells why I'm not an 'artist' because I'd need to go to the museum before each creation
Lucinda Lavender: :)))
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Lucinda Lavender: wow
Bleu Oleander: that is being an artist Eliza :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)) well, it is nice to know the pool is there to draw from
Lucinda Lavender: so watershed experience...with everything seeming different after?
Xirana Oximoxi: it exist no artist born from the nothing
Eliza Madrigal: in a way I think it does 'reset' one to nothing, when another artists sort of hm....
Eliza Madrigal: flips your perspective
Lucinda Lavender: I imagine that too
Eliza Madrigal: like a pallate cleanser?
Eliza Madrigal: you get knocked around, in a museum, sometimes, hahah... especially in a modern section
Lucinda Lavender: beauty, view, the shifting from one object to another
Eliza Madrigal: mmm, nods
Darren Islar nods
Eliza Madrigal: and all those simultaneous views
Lucinda Lavender: are there any specific things that you viewed that did the flip?
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey boxy
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: i wonder how virtual reality will have an impact on rl museums as well, maybe regular virtual trips through all museums of the word for a fee ?
Bleu Oleander: hi boxy
Alfred Kelberry: hi :)
Xirana Oximoxi: hi Boxy:)
Yakuzza Lethecus: i like the google art project
Alfred Kelberry: wuff!
 http://www.googleartproject.com/museums/met said Yaku whose name I accidentally included in the link and wanted to undo from the link:)
Eliza Madrigal: hard to say, for me it was something more 'through and through' that taking in many views shows up
Lucinda Lavender: thanks Yaku!
Alfred Kelberry: oh, cool, yaku
Eliza Madrigal: thanks Ya!
Alfred Kelberry: i didn't know about this one
Bleu Oleander: http://www.googleartproject.com/
Lucinda Lavender: I was able to look at it one day too...great way to get ready

--BELL--

Lucinda Lavender: whispering hi to boxy
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Alfred Kelberry: *wiggles his tail*
Xirana Oximoxi: Yaku, in my view it will never be the same to see works of art in RL...it's like going to a live concert in RL or in SL.. interesting and some thiing similar, but the light, feelings ...are different
Darren Islar: hey boxy
Lucinda Lavender: being with the art...
Eliza Madrigal nods.. direct experience Xirana, texture
Xirana Oximoxi: sorry
Eliza Madrigal: though....
Eliza Madrigal: I was thinking, when I saw Bleu's picture in her time report, that it was 'RL wall worthy'... made the wall between SL/RL almost ridiculous seeming
Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, but in for example a virtual world you can even do it together with someone at any time, so virtual words can provide shared experiences
Alfred Kelberry: xir, never say never :)
Bleu Oleander: great to have options for those that can't directly experience though
Eliza Madrigal: yes, and the options will become better
Bleu Oleander: :)) Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: we'll be able to 'feel' at some point
Alfred Kelberry: i think it will match rl experiences one day
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Lucinda Lavender: whe the art speaks to you...
Xirana Oximoxi: I must go... nice weekend to all and see you soon!
Bleu Oleander: was fun to "get in the movie"
Eliza Madrigal: Nice to see you too Xirana
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye xirana
Lucinda Lavender: thanks Xirana:) same for you...
Bleu Oleander: bye Xirana
Eliza Madrigal: :) Bleu... that showed!
Alfred Kelberry: fiesta, xir? :)
Bleu Oleander: haha
Lucinda Lavender: is it available for me to see Bleu?
Darren Islar: need to go too
Bleu Oleander: yes, on my time report
Lucinda Lavender: happy weekend Darren:)
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Darren
Lucinda Lavender: ok
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye darren
Darren Islar: sorry I wasn't really here, but I will be next time :)
Eliza Madrigal: I'll find the link Luci... might be tricky if not familiar
Alfred Kelberry: oh, bleu
Alfred Kelberry: nice hat :)
Xirana Oximoxi: family coming now.. must go to say hello.. but I will discuss this 'never say never' about rl art next time!!! bye to all!!
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Lucinda Lavender: :)))
Bleu Oleander: thx boxy :)
Lucinda Lavender: thanks Eliza
Bleu Oleander: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/PaB_Books/Magic_of_Time/Time_Sessions/Weekly_Reports/2011%2f%2f05%2f%2f20%3a_Reports/2011%2f%2f05%2f%2f18%3a_Bleu_Oleander
Alfred Kelberry: oops, i only see stev's head
Bleu Oleander: there'a link to the movie there too
Eliza Madrigal: ah, thanks Bleu
Eliza Madrigal: Boxy, that's normal :)
Bleu Oleander: very short film ... lovely
Alfred Kelberry: is it?
Eliza Madrigal: It is Stevie's current puzzle
Bleu Oleander: won lots of awards
Alfred Kelberry: hehe
Alfred Kelberry: was it riddle's idea? :)
Lucinda Lavender: wonderful report Bleu..
Bleu Oleander: ty!
Eliza Madrigal: it is an SL oddity Boxy
Bleu Oleander: you can watch the movie on line
Eliza Madrigal: Stevenaia may have to make a new av to fix it, not sure
Alfred Kelberry: thank you, blue. i'll watch it.
stevenaia Michinaga: no, it;s just this internet connection at my office, it;s fine at home, no explanation
Eliza Madrigal: hm
Lucinda Lavender: hmmmand have just been singing in my mind...I see the moon..the moon sees me...
Bleu Oleander: are you using the same viewer in both places?
Alfred Kelberry: stev, you still have your halo though :)
stevenaia Michinaga: same computer
Eliza Madrigal: I love the moon and the moon sees me
Bleu Oleander: oh how weird
Eliza Madrigal: s/o reversal...
stevenaia Michinaga: when I go home and plug in I'm "normal"
stevenaia Michinaga: hehe
Bleu Oleander: not the moon ... steve's computer :)
Lucinda Lavender: oh! I wondered where steve was:)
stevenaia Michinaga: lol
Eliza Madrigal: Hey Dash
Bleu Oleander: have you tried putting on different skin/clothes?
Lucinda Lavender: hi Dash!
stevenaia Michinaga: so did I , I was actually distracted by work but here intermittancetly (like when I see my name flash across the screen)
Dash Earthboy: hey y'all
Alfred Kelberry: dashing through the snow :)
Dash Earthboy: what snow alf?
Alfred Kelberry: um... just a song. sorry :)
Dash Earthboy: hehe
Eliza Madrigal: I have to dash, actually....
Dash Earthboy: awww
Eliza Madrigal: but nice to linger a bit today :) Congrats again Luci
Eliza Madrigal: and thanks everyone
Alfred Kelberry: thank you for your emails, eliza :)
Bleu Oleander: me too
Lucinda Lavender: thanks Eliza...
Bleu Oleander: take care everyone
Dash Earthboy: bye Bleu
Dash Earthboy: bye Eliza
Alfred Kelberry: congrats luci? what happened?
Bleu Oleander: bye :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)) Bye for now
Lucinda Lavender: If you cannot do Friday am please let me know:)
Alfred Kelberry: luci, you got promoted? :)
Dash Earthboy: wow, did I forget to shower?
Alfred Kelberry: jump in, dash :)
Lucinda Lavender: no I get to visit my daughter for her graduation and help her move to NYC
Dash Earthboy: hehe
Lucinda Lavender: to do an internship at the MEt
Dash Earthboy: sounds wonderful Luc!
Alfred Kelberry: oh, big day, luci - congrats, indeed :)
Lucinda Lavender: yes...and I am in awe
Alfred Kelberry: hehe
Lucinda Lavender: how was the water Boxy?
Alfred Kelberry: cold
Lucinda Lavender: nodding
Alfred Kelberry: but refreshing :)
Lucinda Lavender: sunny day for you?
Alfred Kelberry: yep
Lucinda Lavender: finally we are having a sunny day or two
Alfred Kelberry: so good outside
Dash Earthboy: i've been up for 6 hours
Dash Earthboy: got outside for awhile before the heat
Lucinda Lavender: early rising...ah!
Dash Earthboy: seriously
Dash Earthboy: 4:30 AM
Lucinda Lavender: we all have such different weather...
--BELL--
Dash Earthboy: Code Orange day here for air quality
Lucinda Lavender: ah...
Dash Earthboy: hi Lieble
Dash Earthboy: who
Lucinda Lavender: how do you do Lieble:)
Dash Earthboy: who's recording this morning?
Lucinda Lavender: it is I
Dash Earthboy: ah!
Lucinda Lavender: or me...
Dash Earthboy: which of you is it?
Dash Earthboy: :)
Lucinda Lavender: I am a little distracted...thinking about so many things
Lucinda Lavender: well both I and me
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Lieble Cuttita: I'm welll thank you, I didn't wanted to interrupt, plaese pardon me
Dash Earthboy: ya, i got another conference IM going and am finishing an email right now too
Lucinda Lavender: I see Dash...busy too:)
Lucinda Lavender: and Lieble have you been here before?
Dash Earthboy: multi-tasking as usual
Lucinda Lavender: we have a recorder going...
Lucinda Lavender: which then puts the conversation on a website
Lieble Cuttita: I passed by once, as I am now
Lucinda Lavender: was thinking I could send you a link to view it:)
Dash Earthboy: bye Lieble
Dash Earthboy: well, you tried Luc
Lucinda Lavender: :)...I could not see here so I was slow to send:)
Dash Earthboy: Alf maybe you could have given her a lovebite?
Lucinda Lavender: you know...I think I should go...must get my brain ready for work
Dash Earthboy: Whaddya think Yaku?
Dash Earthboy: awww, okay Luc...gtsy
Lucinda Lavender: Dash...hope the weather cools for you
stevenaia Michinaga: time to go, thanks for being (here)
Dash Earthboy: thanks but not likely
Dash Earthboy: bye Stev
Lucinda Lavender: bye steve:)
Dash Earthboy: whew, and my other IM conference is done too
Lucinda Lavender: simplifying then...
Dash Earthboy: hope I don't get bored ;)
Dash Earthboy: yes, Luc I'm always simplifying
Lucinda Lavender: well I hope so too
Lucinda Lavender: I am rarely bored but occassionally restless
Dash Earthboy: i'm amazed how complex my life is for one who only wants simplicity
Dash Earthboy: haha...yeah, I was kidding Luc...i'm never bored
Lucinda Lavender: perhaps it reflects your brains abilities
Lucinda Lavender: I figured...:)
Dash Earthboy: oh? do you know about my Mensa interests?
Lucinda Lavender: remember someone saying that children could be reassured about bordom...it happens just before something new can be tried
Lucinda Lavender: no did not know...:) really?
Dash Earthboy: yah, I always told my son that if he's bored it's because he's boring
Dash Earthboy: and he has over 800 Facebook friends now
Lucinda Lavender: hmmm keeps one busy I notice
Dash Earthboy: he still has the gall sometimes to write on his wall about being lonely or bored
Dash Earthboy: poor guy is making as much in his first post-grad job as I made at my best job since we moved here
Lucinda Lavender: well feeling separate...
--BELL--
Dash Earthboy: his g/f is awesome and he spends very little time alone
Lucinda Lavender: was going to say feeling separate can happen even when with others...
Dash Earthboy: i spent the night with them a couple weeks ago before a job interview up their way about 70 miles from here
Dash Earthboy: their apartment is actually more modest than the one I had at his age when I came to Atlanta for school & work
Dash Earthboy: but they have 3G wifi and a 50" HD
Dash Earthboy: I slept on the futon couch I let them have for half what it cost me
Lucinda Lavender: hope you had a nice time...it is nice to get together and connect.
Dash Earthboy: and her cats really were a pleasure to be around
Dash Earthboy: for sure
Lucinda Lavender: cats can be such fun...
Lucinda Lavender: well I better go. I will post the log later today so continue
Dash Earthboy: hers remind me of the cats my NYC g/f had who introduced me to Lincoln Center and the Met and all
Lucinda Lavender: grandfather's cats?
Lucinda Lavender: nice
Dash Earthboy: okay, Luc farewell and have a good one
Lucinda Lavender: remember the names?
Dash Earthboy: g/f is girlfriend ;)
Lucinda Lavender: oh:)
Lucinda Lavender: sorry:)
Lucinda Lavender: good to know:)
Dash Earthboy: makes a little difference y'know :)
Lucinda Lavender: right
Lucinda Lavender: will head out now tho:) good day and weekend to all:)
Dash Earthboy: best to you Luc
Lucinda Lavender: thanks:)
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye luci
Yakuzza Lethecus: hi dash
Dash Earthboy: lessee, Alf is away
Lucinda Lavender: bye Yaku, boxy too>
Dash Earthboy: oh, good you are there Yaku!
Yakuzza Lethecus: thx, just had some dinner
Dash Earthboy: care to tell?
Dash Earthboy: i'm having some tea late morning here
Yakuzza Lethecus: nah, some gulasch with spätzle and green salad
Dash Earthboy: yummy!
Dash Earthboy: i like all that
Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, except i eat a pack of cashew core´s 30 minutes before and still have of the dish in the fridge now :)
Dash Earthboy: closest place for any decent spatzle or gulasch is way up in the mtns of N GA
Dash Earthboy: it's great you can eat cashews like that
Yakuzza Lethecus: you have an disability concerning those ?
Dash Earthboy: i have problems with nuts, even some like cashew butter
Yakuzza Lethecus now has to think of wol´s tag, *may contain nuts*
Dash Earthboy: i love peanut butter
Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, me too
Dash Earthboy: and I used to love cashews and almonds and their nut butters too
Dash Earthboy: but started having trouble with regular pieces or whole nuts
Yakuzza Lethecus: do you have some german ancestry ?
Dash Earthboy: i miss my pistachios
Dash Earthboy: yah
Dash Earthboy: i come from swiss-german stock who mingled with Native Americans
Dash Earthboy: settled in West VA and became farmers & miners
Alfred Kelberry: nice mix :)
Dash Earthboy: my maternal grandfather moved up into Ohio and pursued farming while also working at a steel mill
Yakuzza Lethecus: VA = virginia ?
Dash Earthboy: yep
Yakuzza Lethecus: thx :)
Alfred Kelberry: i like hazelnuts, btw
Yakuzza Lethecus: we used to have a hazelnut tree
Dash Earthboy: and my uncles moved to Pittsburgh and opened a big dry cleaning chain
Dash Earthboy: my paternal uncles
Yakuzza Lethecus: *well more like bush
Dash Earthboy: the Cherokee mix is on my father's side
Dash Earthboy: ah, I really enjoy hazelnut creamer in my coffee these days
Alfred Kelberry: "hazelnut" dry cleaning - sounds good
Dash Earthboy: sure would smell better than regular dry cleaning fluids!
--BELL--
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Dash Earthboy: my father worked at a dry cleaner in Ohio for awhile
Dash Earthboy: but he didn't like to be inside so much
Dash Earthboy: I don't either
Dash Earthboy: did Lucinda retain the recording position?
Alfred Kelberry: not sure
Dash Earthboy: wow this day is flying by
Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, she´s recieving the log
Dash Earthboy: i'm trying to figure out how to overcome an obstacle...the mower donated to me in 2007 stopped working after 5 minutes on May 07 and I haven't been able to start it ssince
Yakuzza Lethecus: we could turn the recording off if you wish
Dash Earthboy: up to y'all Yaku
Dash Earthboy: we could voice chat if you'd rather as well
Yakuzza Lethecus: nah, just wanted to mention it
Yakuzza Lethecus: at noon i have my voice session again btw
Alfred Kelberry: dash, have you seen "the straight story"? :)
Dash Earthboy: so on Sunday, I emptied out the gas & oil and cleaned the spark plug and air filter, replaced the oil and gas, and still can't get it started
Yakuzza Lethecus: good that you mentioned voice, i have to change all my settings
Dash Earthboy: no alf I haven't
Alfred Kelberry: you could do what alvin did in the movie with his mower :)
Dash Earthboy: really I'd rather have a goat
Alfred Kelberry: yes, nice milk
Dash Earthboy: save money on milk for sure
Dash Earthboy: i got goat's milk in Nashville for my lactose-intolerant host
Dash Earthboy: sometimes my grocery here puts it on special too
Dash Earthboy: i like getting $4 goats milk for 79 cents!
Dash Earthboy: but having my own goat would solve the lawn mowing problem as well ;)
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Dash Earthboy: and be much more environmentally friendly
Yakuzza Lethecus: if there wouldn´t be all those tiny mines on the lawn then
Dash Earthboy: remember I have neighbors who cut down healthy trees to run their off-roaders around illegally
Dash Earthboy: the man brought his 18-wheeler flat bed into the culd-de-sac and parked it to block the outbound lane in front of his house all day Sunday
Dash Earthboy: cops wouldn't do a thing about it
Yakuzza Lethecus: here it´s forbidden too, ppl go up to fill acid to the core´s in order to make the tree´s valid for cutting, it´s so disgusting sometimes
Dash Earthboy: Yaku the mines just help the flowers grow y'know?
Dash Earthboy: or I could put it on the blackberry bushes I've allowed to remain...i cut many of them out years ago
Yakuzza Lethecus: i don´t mind those either, still some ppl actually like to walk on the lawn or lie there in the sunshine, we ain´t use our lawn in that way
Dash Earthboy: or rather, a rescuee did that cutting "to help" without letting me know
Yakuzza Lethecus: actually my father used to have 4 pieces of cattle last year
Alfred Kelberry: moos?
Dash Earthboy: no i don't have a lay-around lawn either
Yakuzza Lethecus: i am in germany :9
Dash Earthboy: from your meal, I kinda gathered that
Alfred Kelberry: cows are neat
Dash Earthboy: no my 2+ acre lot is mostly tree-covered with sweet gums
Yakuzza Lethecus: limosine blonde aquitaine mix
Dash Earthboy: and sweet gums have those spiny pods they drop all over
Yakuzza Lethecus: sounds fancy, wasn´t fancy at all :)
Dash Earthboy: :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: those were on the fields around the ouse of course and not on the lawn :D
Yakuzza Lethecus: haha
--BELL--
Yakuzza Lethecus: http://www.flickr.com/photos/yakuzza...in/photostream
Dash Earthboy: milk cows?
Yakuzza Lethecus: http://www.flickr.com/photos/yakuzza...in/photostream
Yakuzza Lethecus: those were the pieces of cattle
Yakuzza Lethecus: well only 2 of em
Dash Earthboy: ah yes!
Yakuzza Lethecus: no cows, female yes, but without baby´s
Dash Earthboy: nice pic!
Dash Earthboy: reminds me a little of my farm in Tennessee
Dash Earthboy: neighbors had 1-2 cows I helped them take care of when they were away from home
Dash Earthboy: i helped the neighbors with horses, cows and chickens...only had dogs myself
Yakuzza Lethecus: well, it´s neat when they ascape and you have to get em back :)
Dash Earthboy: yep
Dash Earthboy: happened alot with the horses
Dash Earthboy: and remember, I was the only guy in the 'hood with a computer in his house
Dash Earthboy: some of my neighbors still had party lines
Yakuzza Lethecus: party lines ?
Dash Earthboy: i started out with a party line but they didn't like me tying it up with modem fo be on Compuserve
Yakuzza Lethecus: *reading wiki article of party lines
Dash Earthboy: party lines were actually shared addresses on the phone line where each of our numbers had its own distinctive ring
Dash Earthboy: but we'd get the rings for their callers and they'd get ours
Dash Earthboy: and only one of us could use the line at a time (like a neighborhood street in some ways)
Dash Earthboy: kinda like my neighbor blocking the outbound lane with his truck
Dash Earthboy: of course, the parties who shared party lines were not necessarily side-by-side
Yakuzza Lethecus: right now i am glad to have at least a 3g connection with around 3-5 mbit´s considering when i started 33,6 modem´s where brand new, i never experiences 9,6 or worse telefoncoupling
Dash Earthboy: I hear ya...my modem at the farm was 150 baud....period
Dash Earthboy: my son has the 3G wifi at his place...blew me away considering I'm on 500kps now
Dash Earthboy: between that and my Intel graphics, Second Life doesn't really like me
Dash Earthboy: it does seem to perform better on Linux than on Windows tho
Dash Earthboy: different drivers
Yakuzza Lethecus: exactly i have or had a very slow dsl line
Yakuzza Lethecus: about the same as yours
Dash Earthboy: i'm on 64-bit Ubuntu 11 now
Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, without a proper graphics card it´s a problem
Dash Earthboy: yah
Yakuzza Lethecus: i have only integrated on the laptop
Yakuzza Lethecus: so sl crashes a lot for me there
Dash Earthboy: I hear ya
Dash Earthboy: that's what mine is
Yakuzza Lethecus: practice patience :)
Dash Earthboy: for sure
Dash Earthboy: funny, SL doesn't work well on the 64-bit SUSE i have on this laptop
Dash Earthboy: not as well as on its 32-bit Vista
Dash Earthboy: but this Ubuntu is the best
Yakuzza Lethecus: i have to give it a try
Yakuzza Lethecus: everyone talks about it, i only know that it´s south african and debian based
Yakuzza Lethecus: never given a try
Dash Earthboy: yah
--BELL--
Dash Earthboy: I have each as main OS's to work in different development environments
Dash Earthboy: SUSE is for my IBM (Informix & DB2) projects
Dash Earthboy: Vista is for my SQL Server and Vis Studio projects
Dash Earthboy: and Ubuntu is for my Oracle and MySQL projects
Dash Earthboy: I also use Vista and Ubuntu as virtual machine servers
Yakuzza Lethecus: i use vista here
Yakuzza Lethecus: everyone complained about it from start
Dash Earthboy: yep
Yakuzza Lethecus: but it still runs
Yakuzza Lethecus: never had issues with it
Dash Earthboy: my main issue was the way HP packaged it with the laptop
Yakuzza Lethecus: what kind of soundcard do you use :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: haha :)
Alfred Kelberry: you're a dba dash?
Dash Earthboy: consultant
Dash Earthboy: dba, programmer, analyst...jack of all, master of none
Dash Earthboy: like the music instruments I play
Dash Earthboy: i'm kinda a "utility" player...if you know the baseball analogy
Yakuzza Lethecus: also reminds me of storm
Dash Earthboy: and self-taught on almost everything
Dash Earthboy: COBOL, BASIC, SQL, C++, Delphi, F#, etc
Dash Earthboy: when I consulted at AT&T -- brought in to train their people on Wordstar 2000, I programmed some Informix apps for them
Yakuzza Lethecus: ah, i am a bit jealous on you guys for being able to code
Yakuzza Lethecus: have to check for F# tho
Dash Earthboy: first time ever on unix let alone playing with Informix
Dash Earthboy: so AT&T rewarded me by sending me to a training center and getting certified as an Informix developer
Dash Earthboy: nice bonus huh?
Dash Earthboy: I think that kind of recognition is what attracted my ex to me
Dash Earthboy: she was a low level mgr then
Dash Earthboy: I trained her people in Wordstar 2000
Dash Earthboy: an upper mgr then had me, after seeing the Informix apps, develop contract management software for them, using Informix and Enable for interfacing
Dash Earthboy: I was allowed to choose the networkable interface and at the time Windows 286/386 just wasn't worth it
Dash Earthboy: even then I chose DR-DOS and Concurrent DOS over MS DOS
Dash Earthboy: but Microsoft knows how to market
Yakuzza Lethecus: oh, yes
Dash Earthboy: they make the best second-class software in the world
Yakuzza Lethecus: and how to buy new companys
Dash Earthboy: yep
Dash Earthboy: that's how they got Access
Dash Earthboy: and MS Money
Yakuzza Lethecus: like apple too, all prosperous technology got bought
Dash Earthboy: i'm not sales-oriented in my work...I'm service-oriented
--BELL--
Dash Earthboy: I look for what works best, not what looks best
Dash Earthboy: but I thought Informix was going to defeat Oracle in market share back in the late 80s...what do I know about popularity huh?
Dash Earthboy: now IBM owns Informix
Dash Earthboy: And Lotus
Dash Earthboy: IBM is like the Ford of technology
Yakuzza Lethecus memory´s of referrential integrety are passing my mind
Dash Earthboy: integrity?
Yakuzza Lethecus: right :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: ah, boxy is gone
Dash Earthboy: ooops, alf???
Dash Earthboy: without a word?
Yakuzza Lethecus: that´s sad, i am not good in talking about technologie when it goes in depth
Dash Earthboy: np
Yakuzza Lethecus: guess he just lost the connection
Yakuzza Lethecus: i know the words
Dash Earthboy: that's cool
Yakuzza Lethecus: i can cathegorize most you said
Yakuzza Lethecus: but i have issues when it goes to application of those, i actually have pretty bad memory´s
Dash Earthboy: good enough for jazz huh?
Yakuzza Lethecus: nah, i still would like to improve my logic and computerscience sills
Yakuzza Lethecus: i used to be on a computerscience highschool and in the and and big issues in mathematics and programming as well
Yakuzza Lethecus: well, i was always interested and it´s my main nemisis
Dash Earthboy: well, back in 1967 my math teacher (i was taking 11th grade math in 10th grade) allowed her star pupils to take a break from studies
Yakuzza Lethecus: i am a metalworker now
Dash Earthboy: metalwork is a fine trade!
Dash Earthboy: anyhow, the math teacher introduced 10 of us to a game called WFF N PROOF
Dash Earthboy: it was supposed to raise IQ (non-verbal)
Dash Earthboy: and it emphasized cultivating logic
Yakuzza Lethecus: *googling
Dash Earthboy: it is still out there
Yakuzza Lethecus: http://wffnproof.com/
Yakuzza Lethecus: oh yes
Dash Earthboy: one makes WFFs (well-formed formulas) out of letters on dice one roles to establish a pool of options
Dash Earthboy: and you can time the game too
Dash Earthboy: like chess
Yakuzza Lethecus: i still struggle on logic and alike, i wonder how to jsut dissassociate the patterns that create some fear and confusion in me
Yakuzza Lethecus: i used to have the concept when i was a teenager that i would be programming later, but i was never good in logic and structured
Dash Earthboy: as I suffer from anxiety and depression, I'd recommend playing chess or similar strategic games to help overcome the fear and confusion
Dash Earthboy: it helps you see logic and goals as being steps
Dash Earthboy: not big bang stuff
Yakuzza Lethecus: issues are how to structure and focus
Dash Earthboy: yes
Yakuzza Lethecus: yesterday i had one of my classic experiences on logic
Dash Earthboy: so in chess one learns to dwell on each move as a step with ever-increasing result options
Dash Earthboy: hey Malinson
Malinson Bloobury: hello
Malinson Bloobury: may I sit before your fountain?
Yakuzza Lethecus: of course
Yakuzza Lethecus: hello
Yakuzza Lethecus: everything here is going to get recorded
Dash Earthboy: be sure to crank up your ambient sound volume Malinson
Dash Earthboy: the fountain sounds very soothing
Malinson Bloobury: I do not have that enabled at the moment
Dash Earthboy: i figured
Dash Earthboy: i do the same thing
Malinson Bloobury: How did you figure?
Dash Earthboy: many I meet with such manners have disabled ambient and gesture sounds because of all the noise in SL
Dash Earthboy: so as not to be annoyed or distracted
Malinson Bloobury: I see.
--BELL--
Dash Earthboy: on my! I just realized it's noon where I am!
Dash Earthboy: this day is getting away from me without me making any progress
Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, time is passing bye
Yakuzza Lethecus: i am also here for 3 hrs by now
Dash Earthboy: I better hush and head on out
Yakuzza Lethecus: actually starting from the time session
Dash Earthboy: yah, Yaku you were here even before session weren't you?
Dash Earthboy: I came from a morning meditation group
Yakuzza Lethecus: yes
Dash Earthboy: anywho, I best be off and grab some lunch and...
Dash Earthboy: gtsy Malinson and Yaku, a pleasure as always :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: take care dash
Malinson Bloobury: Good day to you.
Dash Earthboy: peace and good wishes!
Yakuzza Lethecus: i also have to go malinson, we meet again here at noon
Yakuzza Lethecus: for my voice session
Malinson Bloobury: Fairwell Yakuzza
Yakuzza Lethecus: the next meeting after that will be my guardianslot at 1pm slt
Yakuzza Lethecus: take care
Yakuzza Lethecus: sry ccan´t stay longer