2011.05.23 13:00 - No Time to lose

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Agatha Macbeth. The comments are by Agatha Macbeth.

     

    Agatha Macbeth: Sera QT :)
    Qt Core: 'sera Agatha
    Agatha Macbeth: How are things?
    Qt Core: quite good and quite hot (today we reached 30C)
    Agatha Macbeth: OMG
    Agatha Macbeth: I hate to think what it must be like in the south then
    Qt Core: cloudy if i remember the meteo ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Agatha Macbeth: At least italy has no deserts :)
    Qt Core: we may get some in some thousands years ;-)
    Qt Core: and how are you today ?
    Agatha Macbeth: Well you don't need to worry :p
    Agatha Macbeth: I'm okay thanks
    Agatha Macbeth: Still light outside
    Qt Core: trying to imagine sunlight or sunset at this time of the day, quite weird, may have to try it ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes, it's that time of year :)
    Agatha Macbeth: In June, virtually the whole 1300 session takes place in daylight for me
    Agatha Macbeth: Hiya Shaz :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Aggers Hi Qt :)
    Qt Core: Hi Sharon
    Agatha Macbeth: Nice to see you again
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nice to see you too
    Agatha Macbeth smiles
    Agatha Macbeth: How has today been Sharon?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: considering SL time is like, 24 hr = 3 days
    Qt Core: Hi Wol
    Wol Euler: hello aggers, sharon, qt
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Wol
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello my dear :))
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes, isn't it?
    Agatha Macbeth: Time is a strange thing all round if you ask me
    Qt Core: sl sunset and dawn are quite nice, especially if there is some sea around
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Zon :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh absolutely QT
    Agatha Macbeth: Can't beat sunset over the sea
    Agatha Macbeth: Or sunrise
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Zon
    Qt Core: (and gr4aphic settings are high enough)
    Zon Kwan: hey all
    Qt Core: hi Zon
    Agatha Macbeth: I meant in RL :) but same goes for SL
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Wol Euler: my RL needs a better coprocessor
    SophiaSharon Larnia: mine too
    Agatha Macbeth: Give it a kick :p
    SophiaSharon Larnia: mine is rather buggy
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Ric
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello again Ricfender
    Wol Euler: hello ric
    Qt Core: it is already hard enough with a single core in rl ;-)
    Ricfender Resident: hello
    Qt Core: hi Ric
    Wol Euler: heheheh
    Wol Euler: and the RAM is *so* constrained
    Agatha Macbeth: Ain't it just?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Wol Euler gives a little cry of delight on finding some chocolate cookies hiding under a magazine
    Agatha Macbeth: What does Windlight do exactly?
    Wol Euler: changes the appearance of the world
    SophiaSharon Larnia: giggles hysterically
    Wol Euler: you can change the colour of hte sun, or move it about
    SophiaSharon Larnia: <3
    Wol Euler: impose clouds or mist or fog or starry night
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh, wouldn't wanna do that
    SophiaSharon Larnia: whoops
    Wol Euler: change the colour of ambient light
    Wol Euler: you can do some really neat stuff with it
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i like your tag Ric
    Wol Euler: but it's really easy to produce hideously awful effects too
    Agatha Macbeth: So a graphics thing then?
    Wol Euler: yep
    Ricfender Resident: thanks
    Agatha Macbeth: Thx
    SophiaSharon Larnia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hnrsqf33MXA
    Agatha Macbeth: Think I'd better leave it alone...
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Agatha Macbeth: (watching YouTube) That takes me back
    Wol Euler: well, it's really easy to undo too: just use World/Einvironnemt/Midday
    Wol Euler: or any ohter time
    Agatha Macbeth: Okies, ty :)
        --BELL--
    Wol Euler: they were really well corporately styled, weren't they?
    Agatha Macbeth: 90 secs of silence featuring the Beatles - tremendous
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    Wol Euler: the identical outfits, all growing handlebar mustaches at the same time
    Agatha Macbeth: The Beatclones
    Ricfender Resident: :) yeah yeah yeah
    Wol Euler: yep
    Qt Core: today i was "hit" by this (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-en...nment-13452711) quite hard to grasp and to imagine how to talk/think that way
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hmm, how do they agree on when to gather, stuff like that
    Wol Euler: huh
    Agatha Macbeth: I'd fit right in there
    Wol Euler: heheh
    SophiaSharon Larnia: "when the sun is by that big branch over there'
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :) Aggers
    Qt Core: maybe they have such a simple organization that once adult you know what/when to do
    Agatha Macbeth smiles
    SophiaSharon Larnia: maybe
    Ricfender Resident: everything is "ish" there
    Wol Euler: well, our societies were exactly like that until a few hundred years ago
    Agatha Macbeth: I didn't know what to do when I became an adult
    Wol Euler: your role and home were known from birth on
    Agatha Macbeth: Mm, could be
    Qt Core: probably they don't have agricolture, quite hard to do it without time, even if thay know time, they just don't speak about that
    Agatha Macbeth: Structured time seems so connected with work
    Ricfender Resident: or other "stuff"
    Wol Euler: well, living in the rain forest, always overcanopied by dense trees, they might not see enough stars to pick out the wanderers and so create a calendar
    Wol Euler: (strange theory)
    Agatha Macbeth: They don't have so many trees to worry about now :(
    Wol Euler: probably true
    Qt Core: it is the same as mine, EOl
    Qt Core: Wol
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Agatha Macbeth smiles at Eol
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Qt Core: they probably have river floods to keep time
    Qt Core: (if they wish)
    Agatha Macbeth: It's wet so it must be August
    SophiaSharon Larnia: heh
    Qt Core: or the cycle of they most eaten fruit
    Wol Euler nods.
    Agatha Macbeth: Seasonal stuff, right
    Ricfender Resident: so there is time, just no clocks or calander
    Agatha Macbeth: Calendars were probably first required when agriculture took off
    Ricfender Resident: They survive, so there is a sence of when to find or look for certain things
    SophiaSharon Larnia: pictures a time of the blueberry
    Wol Euler: season of the parrot eggs
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hahahga
    Ricfender Resident: I think it becomes harder for these people to not be effected by outside influences
    SophiaSharon Larnia: um - g
    Agatha Macbeth: Think I'll take the blueberries
    Qt Core: the article says that they don't have problem using time related words whwn they learn another language that has them so, again, they know about time
    Wol Euler: it'll be interesting to see if hte Portuguese words for time get adopted in their own language
    Agatha Macbeth: They probably just wish the damn explorers hadn't found 'em
    Wol Euler: well, yeah
    Agatha Macbeth: I guess they probably will Wol
    SophiaSharon Larnia: how sad aggers
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes
    Agatha Macbeth: Wonder if they have a MacDonalds yet?
    Qt Core: (sadly) wondering how much time will be needed before their culture dies
    Agatha Macbeth: Not long, sadly
    Agatha Macbeth: And not only theirs
        --BELL--
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hmm
    Agatha Macbeth: No

    At this point we hear someone shouting from somewhere in Bieup...
    Wol Euler: I shall personally kick anyone who shouts an answer
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hahahahh
    Agatha Macbeth: Looks like he/she/it's gone
    Agatha Macbeth: I'll edit them out
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Qt Core: wow, i was going to shout: "minimap" ;-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia puts away the tag
    Agatha Macbeth: Glad you didn't QT
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hahah
    Agatha Macbeth: With a bit of luck, they went to Hanja to join the other nutters
    Wol Euler nods.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: how far does a shout go, anyway?
    Agatha Macbeth: Dunno
    Wol Euler: not very, 100m I believe
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ok thx :)
    Qt Core: 100m if i remember it right
    Agatha Macbeth: I don't even know how
    Wol Euler: clickon the popup to the right of hte text box
    Wol Euler: like whispering but different :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes, I only whisper when i don't mean to
    SophiaSharon Larnia: me too :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hmm
    Qt Core: i'm letting my eyes wandering in my rl rooms and i can't stop thinking about time and its measuring, how many days something is sitting on my desk, how many years ago i bought the forniture, how many hours till i'l go to my bed and so on, it's making me going crazy
    SophiaSharon Larnia: does it look back?
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Agatha Macbeth: Maybe you should try dropping time then QT :p
    Agatha Macbeth: I'm sure Pema knows how
    Qt Core: or a hammer on a toe ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Owwwww
    Qt Core: that would make me think about something else
    Agatha Macbeth: Like calling a doctor?
    Ricfender Resident: pain
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thats distraction
    Qt Core: no, some well choosen cursing, mostly
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeah, that helps
    SophiaSharon Larnia: or not so well chossen in my case
    Agatha Macbeth: :p
    Agatha Macbeth: I don't choose when I swear - it just comes out of its own accord
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Wol Euler whispers "tourette's syndrome?"
    Ricfender Resident: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: With me usually kitchen syndrome
    Agatha Macbeth: 'SHIT I burned the toast'
    Wol Euler chuckles.
        --BELL--
    Agatha Macbeth: Or more likely completely forget about it and remember when it's stone cold
    SophiaSharon Larnia: that reminds me....
    Wol Euler: mm?
    Agatha Macbeth: Yea?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i actuall had something in the mic, nvm :))
    SophiaSharon Larnia: microwaver
    SophiaSharon Larnia: brb
    Wol Euler: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: She's bad as me
    Wol Euler: I regularly burn stuff int eh kitchen because I've come back in here for "just a minute"
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh yes
    Agatha Macbeth: a fatal move
    Qt Core: there are cooking timers for pc... and smartphones
    Wol Euler: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: I prefer a microwave :p
    SophiaSharon Larnia is back and contentedly eats her soup
    Ricfender Resident: I try not to use a microwave too often
    Agatha Macbeth: Cold soup?
    Qt Core: sometimes i thought about mounting a webcam over the stove
    Wol Euler: bon appetit
    Wol Euler: good idea, qt
    SophiaSharon Larnia: no aggers
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah good
    Wol Euler: and a robot arm to stir the soup
    SophiaSharon Larnia: id need a timer around my neck qt
    Ricfender Resident: today's talk "Time"
    Agatha Macbeth: Borrow the pavilion bell
    Qt Core: around here we have "robot arms" to stir polenta. it's hard work and if traditionally done it is half an hour 45 min hard work
    Wol Euler: heh
    Agatha Macbeth: What's polenta?
    Wol Euler: imagine porridge cooked into a biscuit
    Wol Euler: corn meal
    Qt Core: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polenta
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, ty
    Agatha Macbeth: Okay, I believe you :p
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i love corn muffins
    Ricfender Resident: and corn bread
    Agatha Macbeth: Muffin the mule
    Wol Euler: corn chowder
    SophiaSharon Larnia: who me aggers?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :P
    Wol Euler: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: ??
    SophiaSharon Larnia: muffin the mule
    Agatha Macbeth: Naaaaw
    Wol Euler giggles.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: You don't even look like him
    Agatha Macbeth: much
    SophiaSharon Larnia: phew
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :P
    Agatha Macbeth: Ee aw ee aw ee aw to stop it
    SophiaSharon Larnia: just the temperment of one
    Agatha Macbeth: what about the other?
    Agatha Macbeth grins
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ok tempermental as 2 mules
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thats pretty bad
    Agatha Macbeth: Thought it was stubborn?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: they probably do what they want to do
    SophiaSharon Larnia: stubbon when someone tells them what to do
    Agatha Macbeth: Like kick people
    Agatha Macbeth: 'Have a hoof up the butt'
    SophiaSharon Larnia: giggles
    SophiaSharon Larnia: my favorite is a bear with a sour ass
    SophiaSharon Larnia: sore
    SophiaSharon Larnia: time for me to go eh :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Sour ass sounds better
    Wol Euler: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and feel free to remove that from the log
    SophiaSharon Larnia: "D
    Agatha Macbeth: No, think I'll leave it in :p
    Wol Euler grins.
    SophiaSharon Larnia eats her soup
    Agatha Macbeth: People will say 'Isn't Sharon naughty'
    SophiaSharon Larnia: that word is completely funny and takes the sting out of it
    Agatha Macbeth: Hmm
    Agatha Macbeth: Possibly :p
    Agatha Macbeth: Tho a wasp might not agree
    SophiaSharon Larnia: wasps can sting more than once
        --BELL--
    Agatha Macbeth: Good idea to shut the windows
    Ricfender Resident: you all have a great rest of the day! Peace
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Ric
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Ric, nice to see you :)
    Wol Euler: bye ric
    Agatha Macbeth: Is it me Shaz or do you have a dot as the name of a group?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: my lame attempt at a singularity
    Wol Euler: ah :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Aha
    Agatha Macbeth: Well you can't get much singularer
    SophiaSharon Larnia: my own group actually, keep forgetting to rez things under group and they disappear at the worst moment
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh dear
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, frustrating, when you have the land set that way
    Agatha Macbeth: 'The dot and the line'
    Agatha Macbeth: I noticed in the email people seem to be having trouble receiving the log still
    SophiaSharon Larnia: haha listening to life during wartime, speaking of tags lol
    Wol Euler: hmmmm
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Wol Euler: a wonderful song
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i think its that everyone hasnt headed the memo, aggers
    SophiaSharon Larnia: heeded*
    Agatha Macbeth: To re-register their address you mean?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DblvhECdws0
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yep
    Agatha Macbeth: I did it as soon as I saw Storm's email
    Wol Euler: I'm really curious about this. The listener tells yuo every time you claim a session, without exceptoin, always, whether it knows your address or not.
    Wol Euler: all you have to do is look at the screen
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes it does
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i concur
    Wol Euler: I don't know how I can make that more obvious, I really don't
    Qt Core: do perople read things in green ?
    Agatha Macbeth: PaB Listener Master: Hello Agatha, the Autologging system has registered your e-mail address as "agatha.macbeth@gmail.com". You can change this by saying a new one on channel 17, e.g. "/17 fred.jones@example.com", or remove it entirely by saying "/17 clear". If you have problems or questions, send an IM to Wol Euler.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: its not you, or anyone else who said it
    Qt Core: or just click on them when they remember an url ? ;-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i just learned from all tis that the link to the log is at the beginning of the chat, that i didnt know after all this time
    Agatha Macbeth smiles
    SophiaSharon Larnia: so hopefully wont have to email puulleeezzee, again
    Agatha Macbeth: I always grab it as soon as I get here
    Agatha Macbeth: To be safe
    SophiaSharon Larnia: me too, but havent been putting in an email each time
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i stopped that after a year :)
    Wol Euler: you don't have to
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeah, nobody said anything about doing every time
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Wol Euler: [14:10] SophiaSharon Larnia: me too, but havent been putting in an email each time
    Agatha Macbeth: Storm says it only needs doing after maintainence
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i did for a long time, for no reason
    SophiaSharon Larnia: im funny like that
    Agatha Macbeth hugs Shazzie
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hugs back :)
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: this aint no party, this aint no disco, this aint no fooling around :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: jk
    Wol Euler grins.
    Agatha Macbeth: No?
    Wol Euler points to her tag
    Agatha Macbeth: onigokko
    Agatha Macbeth: Wrong!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: darn and i took mine off to be "low lag"
    Agatha Macbeth: Silly
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i know (hangs head(
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (conveniently forgetting about 500 prim hair)
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Agatha Macbeth: stop
    Agatha Macbeth smiles
        --BELL--
    SophiaSharon Larnia: onigokko
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hahahah
    Agatha Macbeth: Yay
    Wol Euler: my dears, I must go - as soon as this is over :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hmm
    Agatha Macbeth: You'll be asleep before then :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Sleeponigokkoing
    SophiaSharon Larnia: active dreaming for sure
    Agatha Macbeth: Somnambuligokko
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh god
    Qt Core: it may be a good aid if one can't sleep... if you have enough space in rl
    SophiaSharon Larnia: now thats good
    Qt Core: (and earbuds for the music)
    Agatha Macbeth: Ear ear
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i would wake up truely mad
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and not half mad
    Agatha Macbeth: Loonigokko
    SophiaSharon Larnia: with a twitch :D
    Agatha Macbeth: A witch?
    Agatha Macbeth: Sounds good
    Wol Euler: stop
    Wol Euler: sorry, too tired :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ok feeling mercy for sleepy people
    Wol Euler: goodnight all, take care
    Qt Core: 'night Wol
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Sexy :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: sleep well, Wol :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thank you, that brightened my day
    Agatha Macbeth: Doubt if anyone else is coming, so I'll be off too
    Agatha Macbeth smiles
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Aggers :) sweet dreams
    Qt Core: bye Agatha
    Agatha Macbeth: Glad to make you happy Shaz :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Take care
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Qt :) have fun and see you soon, have to log off too
    Qt Core: bye Sharon

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