2011.06.29 07:00 - Dream Circle: Creativity of the Feminine

The Guardians for this enchanted Dream Circle meeting, were Lucinda Lavender & Eliza Madrigal. It was a wonderful session with little need for commentary, enhanced by a few pictures toward the bottom. :) 

Eliza Madrigal: Morning Luci! :))
Lucinda Lavender: morning Eliza:)
Eliza Madrigal: bright-eyed an bushy tailed?
Lucinda Lavender: I managed to get my self up!!
Eliza Madrigal giggles
Eliza Madrigal: Very glad!
Lucinda Lavender: well..I was up till 1:30 am working on my family tree:)
Eliza Madrigal: Nice! Research? or compiling?
Lucinda Lavender: just started the research
Lucinda Lavender: looking eventually for some cousins near my age in the long run...and more about my fathers father
Eliza Madrigal: treasure hunt :)
Lucinda Lavender: :) found some cousins have already been working on this ...
Eliza Madrigal: :) that's convenient
Lucinda Lavender: yes ind interesting. We had quite a few of my maternal Grandmothers grandsons and great grandsons here last night at my house!
Eliza Madrigal: wow
Lucinda Lavender: took their pictures:)

--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal: you've really jumped in
Lucinda Lavender: well seems like it is my turn...and I have great photos that are in a box...
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Lucinda Lavender: by the way...I do not have the usual statement here about the pause...
Eliza Madrigal: ? notecard?
Lucinda Lavender: for the bell
Lucinda Lavender: the 90 seconds
Lucinda Lavender: it did not show up as usual
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, yes... the first bell doesn't ring at the end :)
Eliza Madrigal: since people are just arriving and getting settled
Eliza Madrigal: if we've been recording from earlier, it sometimes will
Lucinda Lavender: well sorry if I was short in my pause

Eliza Madrigal: I was up early too...
Eliza Madrigal: woke at 5am this morning, but am glad... it helped me to go back to sleep and have a very long and interestingly integrative dream
Lucinda Lavender: ah:)
Lucinda Lavender: lovely!
Eliza Madrigal: It combined elements of the last few weeks, blending SL, films, and RL in a really lovely way
Lucinda Lavender: nodding
Lucinda Lavender: Hi susan;)
iwandertoo Resident: waves :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Susan :))
iwandertoo Resident: waves
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Maxine :)
Lucinda Lavender: Would you like to bring your dream Eiza?
Lucinda Lavender: Hi Maxine:)
Eliza Madrigal: Nice West Coast gathering so far :)
Eliza Madrigal: Maybe we should give just a few minutes more, to see if anyone else arrives?
Maxine Walden: hi, folks, hoping to just listen as I am late
Eliza Madrigal: We haven't started yet so please Maxine, if you have a dream or image it would be great for you to share
Lucinda Lavender: we have not really started:)
Yakuzza Lethecus: good morning everyone
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Yaku
Lucinda Lavender: morning yaku:)
Eliza Madrigal: (and I'm rather sure Zaldaan is just hanging around oddly)
Lucinda Lavender: nice to see everyone:)
Maxine Walden: ah, thanks for the invitation; also the end of a cold so not feeling very in touch with creativity :)
Maxine Walden: hi, Yaku
Eliza Madrigal: :) maybe we'll help
Eliza Madrigal: Do others have dreams to share?
Maxine Walden: SL friends always help!
Eliza Madrigal: ;-D
Eliza Madrigal: I am sharing only a piece of a long dream, so please don't hesitate
Lucinda Lavender: luci looks for her dream journal...
Maxine Walden: :)
Eliza Madrigal listens for the crickets....
Maxine Walden: do crickets pip the dreams our way ? :)
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, okay, great Luci
Lucinda Lavender: oh well...
Eliza Madrigal: yes I think so Maxine :)
Lucinda Lavender: no real need...
Lucinda Lavender: I am ready
Maxine Walden: :) me too;
Eliza Madrigal: Great :) Yaku, did you have something to share as well?
Yakuzza Lethecus: i wonder a bit if everyone who writes down his dreams is really only writing down how a dream unlucidly been happening, or where the actual fantasy comes in
Eliza Madrigal: ah, will take up your question at the end :))
Yakuzza Lethecus: since on a high level lucidity a dream is a wake fantasy as i understood it

Eliza Madrigal: Luci would you like to begin, then we can travel counter-clockwise and share dreams or dream fragments if we wish... the second round, we can make comments
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey dash
iwandertoo Resident: waves...
Eliza Madrigal waves Susan
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Dash, I will IM and give you a note about dream circle (this is a special session)
Maxine Walden: hi, Dash
Dash Earthboy: hey y'all :)
Lucinda Lavender: yes...lovely...the dream comes from june 23 and the hi dash I am about to tell a dream ...

--BELL--

Lucinda Lavender: I was in an airport and looking for my boarding pass... next I see Michele Obama leaning sideways in a resting but awake position...she has a gold cloth covering her hip..there is a sort of thought for me that "This is the hip that Barack Loves" end of dream...

Lucinda Lavender: pass to Eliza

Eliza Madrigal: Thank you Luci, this is a dream fragment ...
Eliza Madrigal: but is still a bit long, apologies...
Eliza Madrigal: The dreamer is looking out of a window at her son who is on the edge of a lake, surrounded by geese or beautiful ducks. It is a beautiful sight, so she grabs a camera and tries to walk outside carefully, to capture it, but the birds disperse, and she catches a different shot. She follows him to an Italian feeling courtyard area in the middle of a town.
Eliza Madrigal: Again he is on the outside and she is inside (not sure how she got inside), but she walks easily through a gated, arched doorway. He walks into the street and stands on a large chessboard, with a nun, a very friendly looking person who sort of dances with him on the chess board. Again the dreamer begins to take a picture and this time as she does, many figures get into the shot with him… all sort of choreographed.
Eliza Madrigal: Everything is in white and gray, in that shot. He begins to walk back to the dreamer and a stunning, very old woman, with long grey hair, comes with him from the picture.

Eliza Madrigal: I pass the stone to Dash
Dash Earthboy: unprepared so I pass the stone to Maxine
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Maxine Walden: pass the stone to Yaku :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: me is passing over to luci
Lucinda Lavender: ah..

Lucinda Lavender: ok I will retell mine and we can respond to it..
Lucinda Lavender: I am in an airport and looking for my boarding pass. I see Michelle Obama and she is in a resting position leaning over
Lucinda Lavender: her hip is covered in golden cloth and I think..."This is the hip that Barack loves". end of dream:)
Lucinda Lavender: Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: ty Luci
Lucinda Lavender: oh my
Eliza Madrigal: (uh oh)
Maxine Walden: :( for crashing
Eliza Madrigal: :) I will type my thoughts and copy them for her should she hopefully return
Eliza Madrigal: When I read this, I think of Luci's recent trip to New York....
Eliza Madrigal: and to the MET, where she immersed in sculpture
Eliza Madrigal: Michele Obama is a statueque woman...
Maxine Walden: :)
Eliza Madrigal: very strong and sculpted looking... her arms are quite known for that at this point...
Eliza Madrigal: and people are not always kind about her looks
Eliza Madrigal: (though I think she is beautiful)
Eliza Madrigal: she sort of breaks the mould of the presidential wife in some ways :)
Eliza Madrigal: the gold cloth is intriguing, in this context as well, I pass the stone to dash for comments
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Luci, welcome back, I'll IM you with my thoughts :)
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Dash Earthboy: pass to Maxine
 

Maxine Walden: hmm interesting images for me as well. The golden cloth, the statuesque First Lady, and perhaps, from Eliza
Maxine Walden: s comment...
Maxine Walden: there may be envy here too, envy of her strength, leadership qualties, breaking the mould...
Maxine Walden: that's it for me now

Eliza Madrigal: Hey Zen :) I'll give you a nte of the dream circle so far
Zen Arado: Hi all :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey zen
Maxine Walden: hi, Zen
Lucinda Lavender: hi Zen:)
Dash Earthboy: hey zen :)

Yakuzza Lethecus: the open question if love is attached to the body or the mind
Zen Arado: sorry forgot it was dream session
Yakuzza Lethecus: the hip been seen as fear of physical atteachment
Eliza Madrigal: no worries, please feel free to jump in
Eliza Madrigal: (when its your turn ;-)
Yakuzza Lethecus: well i´ll pass to luci

Lucinda Lavender: thanks Yaku...I think of the hip as the part of the body that gives birth to hte generations...and in a sense connects the generation back into history...and the gold as a radiance like the sun..pass to Eliza

--BELL--

Dash Earthboy: i take my leave bidding you all to dream on in peaceful slumber :)
Maxine Walden: bye dash
Zen Arado: bye Dash
Eliza Madrigal waves to Dash
Lucinda Lavender: I have one thing to add if the stone comes round on this dream again...
Eliza Madrigal: thank you Luci... these comments bring the image together in a wonderful way... sort of pointing to the next generations perhaps. Are there further comments on Luci's dream?
Eliza Madrigal: OK, lets go around.... I pass the stone to Zen :)
Lucinda Lavender: Yes one from me
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Dar, this is dream circle, I will IM you about it
Dar Innis: k

Zen Arado: I can't thnk of much to say on that...
Zen Arado: wonder how Luci feels about Obama?
Zen Arado: does he represent a power figure?

Lucinda Lavender: The day of my dream I did some research and found that Michelle had been to speak with Nelson Mandela...there was a youtube of her trip and the light was streaming through a window on to her hip
Maxine Walden: ah, beautiful!
Lucinda Lavender: in the picture...she was leaning toward him and listening with gratitude for his work...
Eliza Madrigal: ooohh, lovely
Maxine Walden: that image brings a golden feeling
Eliza Madrigal: mmmm, nods
Lucinda Lavender: I think the youtube started with a shot of an airplane with graphics that said On board with Michelle Obama
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Maxine Walden: :)
Lucinda Lavender: so the feeling I had about this dream was that when she was deeply moved it was sent round the world...
Maxine Walden: golden indeed
 

Lucinda Lavender: yes...shall we move on to Eliza's dream now?
Maxine Walden: yes
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks, Luci :) The dream fragment I'm sharing happened just this morning...
Eliza Madrigal: (lots of text coming) heh....

Eliza Madrigal: Eliza Madrigal: The dreamer is looking out of a window at her son who is on the edge of a lake, surrounded by geese or beautiful ducks. It is a beautiful sight, so she grabs a camera and tries to walk outside carefully, to capture it, but the birds disperse, and she catches a different shot. She follows him to an Italian feeling courtyard area in the middle of a town.
Eliza Madrigal: Again he is on the outside and she is inside (not sure how she got inside), but she walks easily through a gated, arched doorway. He walks into the street and stands on a large chessboard, with a nun, a very friendly looking person who sort of dances with him on the chess board. Again the dreamer begins to take a picture and this time as she does, many figures get into the shot with him… all sort of choreographed.
Eliza Madrigal: Everything is in white and gray, in that shot. He begins to walk back to the dreamer and a stunning, very old woman, with long grey hair, comes with him from the picture.
 

Eliza Madrigal: I pass to Dar, if you would like to make comments :) Otherwise or afterward, please pass to Zen
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Riddle.. will give you a note for dream circle today :)
Eliza Madrigal: (Ah, pass to riddle not zen, Dar) heh
Riddle Sideways: Hi All
Dar Innis: no comments, i'll pass to lucinda
Lucinda Lavender: HI riddle:)
Zen Arado: Hi Riddle, Dar
Dar Innis: oh, i mean i pass to zen, my bad.
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Eliza Madrigal: :) ty
Eliza Madrigal: (riddle is probably reading, so we'll come back around if you'd like to comment Zen)
Zen Arado: oh ok
Zen Arado: so difficult
Zen Arado: you should have more simple dreams Eliza :)
Maxine Walden: :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: :)
Eliza Madrigal laughs and thinks of how long this one really is, hah
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey riddle,dar,storm
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Storm, will give you a note :)

Zen Arado: get the feeling of your son's life being complex too
Maxine Walden: hi, Storm, nice to see you :)
Storm Nordwind: Hi all. Thanks Eliza
Riddle Sideways: Hi Storm, and sry was reading please me by
Zen Arado: and you knd of in and out of it
Zen Arado: but in a way tryig to freeze it a bit? the camera?

Storm Nordwind apologizes for late attendance today
Zen Arado: pass to Maxine
Zen Arado: Hi Storm
Eliza Madrigal: (no worries Storm, glad you're here)

Maxine Walden: ah,,for me this is a complex dream and I don't think I can get much below the surface, at first glance:
Maxine Walden: the bird dispersing, the people gathering into the picture, beautiful colors with the birds, white and grey with the people. You in and your son out...
Maxine Walden: for me, than a caesura or place where things cross over a boundary from one space into another...something like that...

Maxine Walden: Yaku

--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal: :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: too many fragments of experiences covered in that, i pass to luci

Lucinda Lavender: luci thinks of the black and white being the energies that are of creating....the light in the void. and to dance with the nun...adds the interesing "creativity of the feminine" again...
Lucinda Lavender: the older long haired woman has something ancient about her...perhaps...and the blending in her gray hair..of black combining with white
Lucinda Lavender: I thought of this as a rich understanding about his creativity...and his learning to dance with the feminine
Lucinda Lavender: pass to Eliza

Eliza Madrigal: thank you :) ... I'll now pass to Storm, so that those who arrived recently can comment, then say a few words at the end before opening to general discussion :)

Storm Nordwind: Thank you Eliza. Firstly, I'll say that it's amazing to be here in a place where that safe open space has been nurtured for this kind of occasion
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Storm Nordwind: Second, I'm also struck In Eliza's dream of the black/white demarcation...
Storm Nordwind: it reminds me of a wish to try and hold onto things that are changing...
Eliza Madrigal: (HI Bleu), will give you a note, we're almost ready to open the dream circle to general discussion)
Zen Arado: Hi Bleu :)
Bleu Oleander: (I'll just listen, thanks)
Lucinda Lavender: hi Bleu:)
Storm Nordwind: things that that are black and white seem to be more tangible, less fluid and more easy to grasp...
Yakuzza Lethecus: morning bleu
Storm Nordwind: whereas the gentle color of the first image is more dynamic and resists photgraphing (it its own way)...
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Storm Nordwind: and the black and white is a separation too, like being inside and outside the window...
Storm Nordwind: so it's very interesting, and thank you for sharing it - very thought provoking
Storm Nordwind: Not sure whether I should pass the stone on or throw it in the air!
Maxine Walden: :)

Lucinda Lavender: so close to the end ...if anyone has something more to say:)
Lucinda Lavender: ?
Riddle Sideways: pass
Eliza Madrigal: OK I do have a few comments....
Maxine Walden: Nice discussion, but I am feeling a bit ill and moving slowly so better go (slowly). Thanks to everyone.
Eliza Madrigal: (((Maxine)))))
Maxine Walden: bye all
Eliza Madrigal: feel better please
Lucinda Lavender: bye Maxine and thanks:)
Bleu Oleander: take care Maxine
Zen Arado: bye Moxine
Storm Nordwind: Sorry to hear that - please take care
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye maxine
Riddle Sideways: bye maxine

Eliza Madrigal: The comments this morning are quite apt to my sensibilities of the dream... a little background I can give...
Eliza Madrigal: is that this was a very long dream, filled with female muses
Eliza Madrigal: and various scenes
Eliza Madrigal: My son is often a figure 'ahead of me' in dreams
Eliza Madrigal: and at the end of this very long dream, we are in a beautiful natural park, holding sleek black stones...
Eliza Madrigal: I tell him that the designers didn't tamper with nature here so the magic is preserved
Eliza Madrigal: he says it is the nicest park he's ever been to :) it felt deep and wonderful
Eliza Madrigal: (end)

Storm Nordwind: "the magic is preserved" - how wonderful!
Eliza Madrigal: :)))
Lucinda Lavender: powerful images!
Eliza Madrigal: So we open the floor now? the two dreams emerge together quite interestingly too
Lucinda Lavender: yes!
Eliza Madrigal: so anyone should feel free to jump in and run around, heh
Zen Arado: feels parents walk protectively behind their children
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Lucinda Lavender: Luci wondered if his going ahead is because the young travel more quickly...or appear to. and
Eliza Madrigal: it is odd that my daughters are not often in this sort of role in dreams

--BELL--

Lucinda Lavender: whether he might have"been here before"...
Riddle Sideways: assigned roles for people into your dreams
Lucinda Lavender: a bit of a magician....
Eliza Madrigal: yes I asked myself that... but I think it is his personality and the way we relate
Zen Arado: perhaps the black and white reversion is a way to simplify the complexities and puzzlles of life a bit for him?
Zen Arado: i.e you want to make his path earier
Zen Arado: easier
Eliza Madrigal: yes I wonder, he seemed very free in the picture, but also showing me that it was something to go in and out of
Eliza Madrigal: Bleu gave me a good tip for we US dwellers tonight:

Bleu (bleu.oleander):
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/body/what-are-dreams.html
Bleu (bleu.oleander): airs tonight
Eliza Madrigal: looks really cool, thanks Bleu
Bleu Oleander: :)
Bleu Oleander: yw!

Storm Nordwind: Photographs also do the same thing. They frame some things, leave others out - and attempt to capture and simplify
Bleu Oleander: can watch online this week too
Eliza Madrigal: mmmm, nods
Zen Arado: interesting
Eliza Madrigal: and it had the feeling of a kind of italian courtyard so that's interesting with regard to Luci's dream in a way
Lucinda Lavender: a place of history...
Eliza Madrigal: the woman was amazing... she was so old, deep lines in her face, and also so beautiful
Lucinda Lavender: the courtyard...
Eliza Madrigal: not capturable in a way, not the 'idea' of beauty but beyond that
Lucinda Lavender: nodding...the limits of holding on to a moment
Eliza Madrigal: :)) Wb Storm

Lucinda Lavender: the black stones...kept safe too
Storm Nordwind double clicked (instead of single clicked) the close for the broswer - and away went SL too
Lucinda Lavender: they seem very old to me
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Eliza Madrigal laughing that I just received an email from a yoga place for a 'hip and shoulder workshop' hehe
Bleu Oleander: :)
Storm Nordwind chuckles
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Eliza Madrigal: these are really fun images... amazing how everything blends
Lucinda Lavender: yes...

Eliza Madrigal: btw Yaku, tell us about the magic paintbrush?
Bleu Oleander listens
Eliza Madrigal hopes Yaku is with us
Yakuzza Lethecus: kind of
Yakuzza Lethecus: not always
Yakuzza Lethecus: :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: :)
Storm Nordwind: How can we tell? ;)
Riddle Sideways: the typing AO is fastinating
Yakuzza Lethecus: it was from the place bleu suggested
Eliza Madrigal: a great aunt in a care facility was said to have 'lucid moments'
Eliza Madrigal: ;-)
Bleu Oleander: the art show?
Yakuzza Lethecus: in one temple later there was a sky painting installation
Eliza Madrigal: Ohhhh, Angry Gods?
Yakuzza Lethecus: agry gods
Yakuzza Lethecus: yes
Bleu Oleander: oh yes!
Eliza Madrigal: Zen, that is the sky painter?
Eliza Madrigal: I didn't get that obstacle :)

Yakuzza Lethecus: Zen painted pictures for the theatre in the sky :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: zen is truely a skypainter :)

Eliza Madrigal: OOooh
Zen Arado: it only painted red
Eliza Madrigal: that' lovely Yaku
Zen Arado: you climb up a ladder with a brush
Eliza Madrigal: Dar would you like a landmark, I think it ends today...
Lucinda Lavender: sounds very fun!
Bleu Oleander: an amazing build
Lucinda Lavender: temporary tho?
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bleu Oleander: ends today I think
Eliza Madrigal: I think I gave you a lm but her is another luci, just in case
Bleu Oleander: every month a new artist
Eliza Madrigal: nice place to take pictures too :)
Riddle Sideways: may riddle have lm too?
Lucinda Lavender: oh thanks yes you did...was a little hesitant
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, of course

Lucinda Lavender: will anyone attack me?
Riddle Sideways: ty
Eliza Madrigal: hehe
Lucinda Lavender: thinks probably not...
Eliza Madrigal: just make sure you get instructions and wings before entering :)
Bleu Oleander: did you all see the Light & Gravity show too?
Eliza Madrigal: I did.. som fun things there was well

Storm Nordwind: one's own mind can sometimes play tricks when disoriented - and one can indeed feel attacked
Eliza Madrigal: indeed indeed Storm
Zen Arado: I have to go
Zen Arado: bye
Eliza Madrigal: can feel [like] the entire scene is on attack :)
Storm Nordwind waves
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Zen :)
Lucinda Lavender: hmmmmyes
Riddle Sideways: Bye all and thanks
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Riddle :) nice to see you
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye riddle
Bleu Oleander waves
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye everyone
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Yaku :)
Eliza Madrigal thinks of going back just for the paintbrush, hehe
Bleu Oleander: yes, me too
Eliza Madrigal: :)) You didn't have that either Bleu?
Storm Nordwind chuckles
Bleu Oleander: can't fly there though
Bleu Oleander: no missed that

--BELL--

Bleu Oleander: just got a note ... today is last day
Eliza Madrigal: thanks, Bleu!
Lucinda Lavender: ah...maybe I sho go see it
Lucinda Lavender: should
Bleu Oleander: yes!
Eliza Madrigal: changing every month seems a lot
Eliza Madrigal: but yes.. I have to break for breakfast now but will prob go back later today
Bleu Oleander: might go again too
Lucinda Lavender: so...get wings and read the direction eh?
Bleu Oleander: yes
Lucinda Lavender: ok..
Eliza Madrigal: H Zaldaan, we've just had dream circle and are now finishing up, dispersing :)
Eliza Madrigal: yes, wings and directions
Eliza Madrigal: and IMing others if you can, who have done it, is helpful even if only to say 'aaagh' or 'wow'
Eliza Madrigal: ;-)
Lucinda Lavender: :))

Bleu Oleander ⊱ smiles ⊰

Lucinda Lavender: Will look for others ...
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Lucinda Lavender: how do you get the wings?
Bleu Oleander: at the entrance
Bleu Oleander: in a folder
Lucinda Lavender: ok:)
Eliza Madrigal: thre is a box which gives a folder, nods
Eliza Madrigal: would love to go now, but fraid I can't just yet....
Eliza Madrigal: look forward to hearing your adventure Luci
Storm Nordwind didn't try his on. Let me see...
Lucinda Lavender: great
Eliza Madrigal: Oh Storm :)
Lucinda Lavender: thanks everyone who is leaving!!
Eliza Madrigal: angels in the architecture... spinning to infinity and I say hey, halleluia :D
Bleu Oleander: worth a pic Storm!!

Storm Nordwind: The halo is the wrong color, and straight! But acceptable! ;)

Eliza Madrigal: took one, hehe
Eliza Madrigal: haha Storm
Bleu Oleander: me too
Bleu Oleander: haha
Eliza Madrigal grins
Eliza Madrigal: thank you all, fun and interesting time
Eliza Madrigal: bye for now
Storm Nordwind waves