2011.07.01 19:00 - Identities and how we got here

     

    The Guardian for this meeting was stevenaia Michinaga. The comments are by stevenaia Michinaga.

     

    Hokon Cazale, Eden Haiku,  Rasima Petrovic and eventually Paradise Tennant join us after the 1st hour as I filled in for Sylectra Darwin's session this evening

     

    We began with a short discussion of our weekend plans and how to lower the fountain.

    Hokon Cazalet: hiya Stevenaia =)
    stevenaia Michinaga: hi Hokon
    Hokon Cazalet: how are you?
    stevenaia Michinaga: good, judt got back form a nice outdoor concert
    Hokon Cazalet: cool =)
    stevenaia Michinaga: now I;m filling in for Sylectra
    stevenaia Michinaga: and keeping you company
    Hokon Cazalet: =)
    Hokon Cazalet: Yaaaaayyyyyyyy!
    stevenaia Michinaga: how was your week?
    Hokon Cazalet: was ok
    Hokon Cazalet: work is slowing down =)
    Hokon Cazalet: Yaaaaayyyyyyyy!
    stevenaia Michinaga: loved your thoughts on time last night :)
    Hokon Cazalet: hehe ty =)
    Hokon Cazalet: hi eden
    stevenaia Michinaga: Hi Eden, nice hat
    Eden Haiku: Hi Stve, hi Hokon ;-)
    Eden Haiku: *Steve
    Hokon Cazalet: =)
    stevenaia Michinaga: hmmm I can;t seem to lower the fountain anymore, wonders if Storm disabled it
    Eden Haiku: Are you writing 9/low in local chat Steve?
    stevenaia Michinaga: nods
    Eden Haiku: 9/low
    stevenaia Michinaga: "/9low"
    stevenaia Michinaga: nothing
    Eden Haiku: Doesn't seem to work...
    Eden Haiku: ah it's /9 space low I think, it did work now :-)
    stevenaia Michinaga: there, I needed the correct tag
    stevenaia Michinaga: or that
    stevenaia Michinaga: no no space needed
    Eden Haiku: Ah powerful Steve, giving us grass now!
    Hokon Cazalet: Weeee! ^.^
    stevenaia Michinaga: perfect for a holiday weekend
    Eden Haiku: ;-))))
    Eden Haiku: Yes!
    Eden Haiku: Special plans Steve?
    stevenaia Michinaga: a gathering of random friends for a cook-out on Monday
    Eden Haiku: 4th of July celebrations right?
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes
    Hokon Cazalet: =)
    Eden Haiku: What are you cooking?
    stevenaia Michinaga: not sure if we will relocate to see the firework
    stevenaia Michinaga: whatver we can grille or roast on the bbq, clams, chicken and vegitables
    Eden Haiku: Hope you have a sunny day!


    --BELL--


    stevenaia Michinaga: weatherman says... partly sunny and 87
    Eden Haiku: 87!!! That's pretty hot. But you shovelled so much, you deserve the warmth!
    Hokon Cazalet: =)
    stevenaia Michinaga: that was a long time ago
    Eden Haiku: ;-)
    Eden Haiku: We arroived at our summer house yesterday
    stevenaia Michinaga: anyone else have plans?
    Eden Haiku: And I'm proud of myself
    Eden Haiku: I reestabliushed the wireless connection in a snap yeah!!!
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, important thses days
    Eden Haiku: Yes, I could connected with satellite with iPad but that was soooo slow,,,
    Eden Haiku: *connect
    Hokon Cazalet: aww
    stevenaia Michinaga: seems they put limits on data w/ satellite connections (and you pay more for that)
    Eden Haiku: So now, I can work all summer...;-))
    stevenaia Michinaga: lol
    stevenaia Michinaga: is that a good thing?
    Eden Haiku: Yes, but don't worry, I plan to rest a lot too ;-)
    Eden Haiku: Fisrt time I see you in this dress Steve, it's lovely!
    Hokon Cazalet: yup it is =)
    stevenaia Michinaga: I have many dresses now, even have a shopping consultant :)
    Hokon Cazalet: hehe
    Hokon Cazalet: im gonna go nap, im feeling woozy
    Eden Haiku: A shopping consultant? Wow!
    Hokon Cazalet: i hope you two have a good evening =)
    Eden Haiku: By Hokon, nice meeting you ;-)
    stevenaia Michinaga: Well, it;s jsut a friend with far bettertaste than I ahve
    Hokon Cazalet: Weeee! ^.^
    stevenaia Michinaga: bye Hokon

    Hokon departs


    Eden Haiku: I started coming to SL on this laptop, on this very kitchen table where I'm sitting now ;-)
    Eden Haiku: Brings back memories ;-)
    stevenaia Michinaga: oh, of what?
    Eden Haiku: Of my first time in Second Life. A rainy night of July 2009...
    Eden Haiku: I was so awkward...but fascinated.
    stevenaia Michinaga: wow, what brought you here?
    stevenaia Michinaga: I heard a story about it on the radio in 2006 and never left
    Eden Haiku: A newspaper article I had read about 2 years before...
    stevenaia Michinaga: left behind other internet "chat rooms"
    Eden Haiku: My old computer couldn't access
    Eden Haiku: But that rainy summer I ordered a new computer online and received it by UPS in my country house.
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, my spouses didn't have the graphics to access SL (as a backup)
    Eden Haiku: So I wondered what I could do to play with it (i had eneough work already!)
    Eden Haiku: I came in as Rrose first, my twin sister.


    --BELL--


    stevenaia Michinaga: This is my third avatar in SL, all w/ the same name
    stevenaia Michinaga: it;s nice to have flexibility
    Eden Haiku: Ah!
    Eden Haiku: I thought you had to create another avatar when you used another computer ;-)
    stevenaia Michinaga: not if you use the same coount, just change form
    stevenaia Michinaga: account
    stevenaia Michinaga: the RL me hasn;t changed
    stevenaia Michinaga: ...much
    Eden Haiku: Yes, I realized that later. Now I'm coming as Eden on the same laptop I created Rrose.
    stevenaia Michinaga: you can sign on with your account from anyone's computer
    stevenaia Michinaga: so you can never loose yourself or need another avatar or alt if you don;t wnat
    Eden Haiku: Yes, on my desktop I can log in 2 differen
    Eden Haiku: 2 alternates on 2 different viewers
    Eden Haiku: I have 2 alternates: Rrose and Wilfred. We are triplets ;-)
    stevenaia Michinaga: actually , when I switched from viewer 2 to Phoenix, It change my avatar back to woman, so I jsut adapted her to me
    Eden Haiku: smiles
    stevenaia Michinaga: or me to her, not sure which
    Eden Haiku: identities...
    Eden Haiku: Wilfrid was the name of one of my grandfathers ;-)
    stevenaia Michinaga: just aspects of the same identity
    stevenaia Michinaga: aww, that's nice
    Eden Haiku: Yes, figments of the same identity...
    stevenaia Michinaga: some people spend the time to be something else in another form, I prefer lazyness
    Eden Haiku: French poet Arthur Rimbaud wrote: "je est un autre".
    Eden Haiku: I am another one ...
    Eden Haiku: I prefer simplicity too ;-)
    stevenaia Michinaga: even changing a dress is a labor to me, so many parts
    Eden Haiku: You like pretty dresses, not easy to put on!
    stevenaia Michinaga: my first fem avatar was more of a tomboy, then... I found dresses
    Eden Haiku: Ah dresses! Great dresses in SL!
    Eden Haiku: Now sitting in front of fireplace. That's a good point about laptops.
    stevenaia Michinaga: I never realized, I think I discovered the appreciation for dressed when I also discovered my appeciation of poetry
    Eden Haiku: How so STeve?
    stevenaia Michinaga: both are recent, both are wrapers around deeper meaning and beauty
    stevenaia Michinaga: both can be subtle
    Eden Haiku: Ah, new interests you developed through SL?
    stevenaia Michinaga: smiles, yes
    Eden Haiku: Ah nice;-)


    --BELL--


    stevenaia Michinaga: spouse won't let me wear her dresses
    Eden Haiku: hehe
    stevenaia Michinaga: do you cange clothes often here?
    stevenaia Michinaga: *change
    Eden Haiku: I do, but I think I have been wearing this pale pink linen outfit since Monday...
    Eden Haiku: I would never do that in RL...
    stevenaia Michinaga: lol
    Eden Haiku: I was sleeping my beautu sleep in the computer, so my outfit is still fresh :_)
    stevenaia Michinaga: do avatars sleep?
    Eden Haiku: Mine does!
    stevenaia Michinaga: I do have jammies, but they are mainly for parties
    Eden Haiku: First time I arrived in SL I was very concerned with "where is she going to sleep"?
    stevenaia Michinaga: I found a friend couch and slept there
    Eden Haiku: A nice Infi Island lady helped me stay in some University dormitory for the first week ;-)
    Eden Haiku: Ah, you knew people here?
    Eden Haiku: I have a few nice jammies and slippers ;-)
    stevenaia Michinaga: no, it took a month or so of exploring, and inviting friends to SL who made houses, something I never have done, cept the tent I currently ahve
    Eden Haiku: Ah yes, I remember seeing you coming from that tent in my first sessions here, a green one right?
    stevenaia Michinaga: nods
    stevenaia Michinaga: that was a nice gift from a friend
    stevenaia Michinaga: as was everything I own, excpet the dresses whych were purchased with funds gifted to em
    Eden Haiku: My Japanese tea house was a gift also: I love going back there when I leave SL...
    stevenaia Michinaga: people are very generous in SL
    stevenaia Michinaga: Rl tea house?
    Eden Haiku: You must be a generous person too Steve ;-)
    Eden Haiku: No no SL...
    Eden Haiku: Swiss style summer house in RL. Not gifted: we are renting ;-)
    stevenaia Michinaga: " I love going back there when I leave SL..." how can you leave SL and go to an SL tea house?
    Eden Haiku: Same place for 9 years now
    stevenaia Michinaga: your summer place
    stevenaia Michinaga: ice
    stevenaia Michinaga: nice
    Eden Haiku: No, I mean when I know I'm going to log out, I go back home, put my avatar to sleep, and log out!
    Eden Haiku: Funny to see how the cat settles back to her summer habits: following me on the path in the morning, following us on our night walks...
    stevenaia Michinaga: awww, I ahve ly ogin set to begin at "home" so it;s automatic... if your tea house is set to your hoem
    Eden Haiku: She might think she's a dog ;-))
    stevenaia Michinaga: cats are funt to take walks with, they love to lead
    Eden Haiku: Yes, my tea house is set as my home ;-)
    stevenaia Michinaga: you can set your log in to begin at home
    Eden Haiku: And she runs like a rabbit!
    Eden Haiku: I always begin at home too yes ;-)
    Eden Haiku: Except today, I found myself in Bleu's sun house (where I was last time).
    Eden Haiku: That's why I didn't change clothes I guess...
    stevenaia Michinaga: I used to begin where I left and often arrived in an embarrising situation
    Eden Haiku: hehe
    Eden Haiku: I better go now. My boyfriend is out of the shower,


    --BELL--


    stevenaia Michinaga: ok, night

    Eden Haiku: we are going to the farmer's market early tomorrow
    stevenaia Michinaga: enjoy :)
    Eden Haiku: It wa snice chatting with you Steve, thank you. have a great 4th of Jul;y celebration and holiday!
    stevenaia Michinaga: you too
    Eden Haiku: Bye for now...

    Eden departs , Rasima arrives


    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Rasima
    Rasima Petrovic: hello!
    stevenaia Michinaga: have you been here before?
    Rasima Petrovic: yes, last night
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: so you ok w/ being recorded?
    Rasima Petrovic: sure
    stevenaia Michinaga: smiles
    stevenaia Michinaga: thanks for coming back, the other visitor just left so the topic is open
    Rasima Petrovic: ah okays
    Rasima Petrovic: what was the topic?
    stevenaia Michinaga: we were talking about identities, what we cloth ourseves in, etc
    stevenaia Michinaga: we had known each other for a few years and a few forms
    Rasima Petrovic: oh I see... our AVs or our RL selves? or us in general?
    stevenaia Michinaga: we were speaking in terms of SL avatars in particular
    stevenaia Michinaga: have you had diferent avatars or alys
    stevenaia Michinaga: ?
    stevenaia Michinaga: alts?
    Rasima Petrovic: yes
    Rasima Petrovic: always for a different task.. like I have a builder alt
    Rasima Petrovic: and i used to have a vendor alt
    stevenaia Michinaga: were you still RL you, or did you change to suit the avatar
    Rasima Petrovic: well thats kind of a loaded question
    Rasima Petrovic: because even your "RL you", you don't act the same way at work as you do with friends
    Rasima Petrovic: so your AV reflects that
    Rasima Petrovic: like my vendor alt is very professional looking
    stevenaia Michinaga: :) dressed for work?"
    stevenaia Michinaga: hi Paradise
    Rasima Petrovic: yep! basically =)
    stevenaia Michinaga: so is it clother that change or everything about your avatar
    Rasima Petrovic: she wears nice suits and stuff. I wear that stuff on my main too but like, it's different
    Paradise Tennant: smiles hiya stev .. rasima
    Rasima Petrovic: hey paradise
    Rasima Petrovic: well its a different everything. she had to be appealing to a certain market crowd
    stevenaia Michinaga: not sure much of me changes , but I can see that I might dress differently for an SL job interview
    Rasima Petrovic: for customer service and stuff
    Rasima Petrovic: people act different in different sitautions
    Rasima Petrovic: it's still "you".. it's just "me at work" and "me with one group of friends"
    Rasima Petrovic: even when I'm at school I'm a little bit different than when I'm at work
    stevenaia Michinaga: you mean in RL?
    Rasima Petrovic: yes
    Rasima Petrovic: also for SL... say you go to a formal ball or something with strangers.. you'd act a little differently


    --BELL--


    Rasima Petrovic: how about you?
    Rasima Petrovic: do you do notice that?
    stevenaia Michinaga: hmmm, I may dress differently, but not act different;y
    Rasima Petrovic: feel free to join in paradise
    Rasima Petrovic: do you act the same way around little children as you do with your casual adult friends?
    stevenaia Michinaga: depends, most of my friends act like children
    Rasima Petrovic: LOL XD
    stevenaia Michinaga: but probably not
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Rasima Petrovic: well when you're around children, adults always try to put on their best impression
    stevenaia Michinaga: I certainly feel different in different dresses
    Rasima Petrovic: oh yeah me too
    Rasima Petrovic: you're treated different, and you act differently a little
    Rasima Petrovic: thats the magic of clothing ^^
    Paradise Tennant: smiles :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: I generally don;t try to impress, it;s more entertaining watching others try
    Paradise Tennant: you are always impressive stev
    stevenaia Michinaga: giggles
    Rasima Petrovic: lol =)
    stevenaia Michinaga: it;s the dess you helped me choose, PAradise
    stevenaia Michinaga: *dress
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Rasima Petrovic: it's a nice dress. very fae!
    Rasima Petrovic: it's a nice dress
    stevenaia Michinaga: it does have a life of its own
    Rasima Petrovic: acting differently doesnt always mean to impress... I'm a teacher, so I have to act like one
    Paradise Tennant: fae is a good work dor it
    Paradise Tennant: *word
    Rasima Petrovic: yeah =)
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, like "Play as Being" our group... we Play as if we know... and learn from that
    Paradise Tennant: smiles going to excuse myself .. thank you rasima stev :)
    Rasima Petrovic: see you!
    stevenaia Michinaga: bye paradise
    Paradise Tennant: nite nite you two :)
    Rasima Petrovic: night!
    Rasima Petrovic: i think its interesting to see how people conform to dress codes
    Rasima Petrovic: especially if there's a uniform
    Rasima Petrovic: you can really see an aspect of people's personalities there
    Rasima Petrovic: like, if their clothes are always neatly pressed and shoes shined
    Rasima Petrovic: or if they're really crumpled and smelly.... or how they wear the clothes
    stevenaia Michinaga: my spouse went to a catholic school for high school, all uniforms, the diferntating aspect of each person was how smart they were, not their looks or jewlery, said it was very liberating
    Rasima Petrovic: yes. the "subtle" differences are what you notice the most in places like that though
    stevenaia Michinaga: do you teach a grade or college?
    Rasima Petrovic: high school
    stevenaia Michinaga: if you don;t mind me asking
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: must be quite a challenge
    Rasima Petrovic: yep! well, the school year is over here for now
    stevenaia Michinaga: as all good jobs are
    Rasima Petrovic: anway steve, I needa head out!
    stevenaia Michinaga: ok, I have places to go too, thanks for coming
    Rasima Petrovic: see ya!
    stevenaia Michinaga: nice meeting you

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