2011.07.12 19:00 - On the 9 second road with Kerouac

The Guardian for this meeting was Eos Amaterasu. The comments are by Eos Amaterasu.

Eos Amaterasu: Hi playful Lila!
Lila Darkmatter: Hi Eos :) Nice to see you
Eos Amaterasu: How are you doing?
Lila Darkmatter: fairly well, bit sleepy as usual if on at this time :)
Lila Darkmatter: you?
Eos Amaterasu: Pretty well... this month is a cascade of overlapping events and projects
Eos Amaterasu: with summertime finally appearing after months of fog and rain
Lila Darkmatter: may need to schedule time to catch your breath, hide out, heh
Eos Amaterasu: I have to be still on the run
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Lila Darkmatter: Oh, nice to hear that Summertime is appearing
Lila Darkmatter: aha.. still on the run
Lila Darkmatter: hiding in plain sight
Eos Amaterasu: resting in full tilt boogie
Lila Darkmatter: :))
Lila Darkmatter: What are your musings of late, Eos?
Eos Amaterasu:

Jack Kerouac sits
spine to spine with Longchenpa
my bookshelf laughing

Lila Darkmatter: buddha bookshelf
Lila Darkmatter: wonderful :))
Eos Amaterasu: serendipity of books next to each other
Lila Darkmatter: How do they converse?
Eos Amaterasu: through our eyes, it seems

Eos Amaterasu: Hi Bertrum
Lila Darkmatter: Hello Bertrum :)
Bertrum Resident: hi everyone
Ewan Bonham: Hi Folks..
Bertrum Resident: hi Ewan
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Ewan
Lila Darkmatter: Hello Ewan :)
Lila Darkmatter: Reading from Jack's list of 30 essentials, in wikipedia...
Lila Darkmatter: enigmatic, most
Lila Darkmatter: 20.Believe in the holy contour of life
Eos Amaterasu: hmm....
Eos Amaterasu: a quality of embrace/embraced
Eos Amaterasu: would you like to pick one for the upcoming 90 seconds?
Lila Darkmatter: :) 28.Composing wild, undisciplined, pure, coming in from under, crazier the better

--BELL--

Eos Amaterasu: compositions?
Lila Darkmatter: unbridled compositions
Eos Amaterasu: neighing rearing up
Lila Darkmatter: and not taming
Lila Darkmatter: maybe taking notes
Eos Amaterasu: accepting apples
Lila Darkmatter: always
Lila Darkmatter smiles, and be back in just a moment
Bertrum Resident: In praise of Character in the Bleak inhuman Loneliness...
Eos Amaterasu raises a glass
Bertrum Resident: Cheers!
Eos Amaterasu: Hip hip hooray!
Eos Amaterasu: every moment falling down dying, toasting the moment rising
Bertrum Resident: hi Steve
Eos Amaterasu: stevenaia's red is so confident, flashing trophies of war, and ribbons of euphoria
Ewan Bonham: Hi Steve..
Lila Darkmatter: Hello Stevenaia :)
stevenaia Michinaga: smiles, thanks Eos, I think
Eos Amaterasu: (who knows?)
Bertrum Resident: the dead bell. the dead bell. someone's done for...
Bertrum Resident: Plath.
Lila Darkmatter: :)

Eos Amaterasu: Another suggestion for (framing the) upcoming 90 seconds of being?
Bertrum Resident: Being There,
stevenaia Michinaga: the edges between awake and asleep :)
stevenaia Michinaga: or... Being There :)
Lila Darkmatter: a nice embrace
Eos Amaterasu: the mouse in the teapot
Bertrum Resident: Peter Sellers waving?

--BELL--

Bertrum Resident: The Mouse That Roared.
Lila Darkmatter: out on the ledges, the edges, in the whistling fog... wandering away from and back into sleep...
stevenaia Michinaga: sometimes between awake and asleep, between RL and meditation there is a tug of war between stares of mind some times into a deeper state of perception, a nice dialogue to sense
Eos Amaterasu likes "stares of mind" :-)
Ewan Bonham: Yes...I enjoy those brief moments...
stevenaia Michinaga: it isn;t always one direction of "slipping from one place to another

Ewan Bonham: Rl call now unexpectedly...:)
Lila Darkmatter: bye Ewan :)
stevenaia Michinaga: bye Ewan
Ewan Bonham: Thank you folks...:)
Bertrum Resident: bye Ewan
Eos Amaterasu: bye Ewan

Eos Amaterasu: can you say more about that deepers sense, that dialogue?
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Roger
stevenaia Michinaga: sometime when breathing into meditation you feel the stepping of your mind sinking into another state, and when tired and nodding out, you slip into the sleep state and slip back as you wake yourself back up, if only for a moment, like being on the edge of a cup and loosing balanace... falling in
stevenaia Michinaga: without feeling offbalance
Lila Darkmatter: interesting
stevenaia Michinaga: like a gentle mud slide
Bertrum Resident: the mind's gravity
stevenaia Michinaga: remembers a similar place at the end of the yoga classes I used to take when you rest... and sometime a bit too deeply
Eos Amaterasu: the deep beneath the water and the waves
Eos Amaterasu: sharks being time
Lila Darkmatter: not off balance Stevenaia... so it is clear, though you slip?
stevenaia Michinaga: stevenaia Michinaga: like a gentle mud slide
stevenaia Michinaga: you can go wither way at a moment (and you do)
stevenaia Michinaga: *either
stevenaia Michinaga: so you are at an in between place
Eos Amaterasu: resting in motion?
stevenaia Michinaga: I think it is worthy of more experience,
Lila Darkmatter: seems so
Lila Darkmatter: between but maybe not between anything?
stevenaia Michinaga: to see this between place as a connection between both places
Eos Amaterasu: in transitions between seeing this and seething that
stevenaia Michinaga: not awake, and not asleep, a place to linger

--BELL--

Lila Darkmatter: during the bell considered the in between can seem a place of exchange
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, at times
Eos Amaterasu: with interest
stevenaia Michinaga: and When I meditate... standing and breathing, there is one breath that takes me smewhere other than where I was, parts drop away, clearity arises, things becomes more clear
stevenaia Michinaga: more emptiness
Lila Darkmatter: one breath?
stevenaia Michinaga: one different breath in a group of breathing

Eos Amaterasu: Hi Paradise
stevenaia Michinaga: Hi Paradise
Lila Darkmatter: Hi Paradise :)
Paradise Tennant: smiles hiya eos lila stev .. bertrum :))

Eos Amaterasu: outbreath takes you out and drops you
stevenaia Michinaga: nods
Eos Amaterasu: only noticing is left
Bertrum Resident: hi Paradise
Eos Amaterasu: noticer forgot
stevenaia Michinaga: having not meditated very long, and assuming others have, is this typical?
Lila Darkmatter: so many ways of meditation aren't there... does seem nice that you can linger there
Paradise Tennant: smiles like layers of breathing feeling .. seeing .. stillness
Lila Darkmatter: :)
Eos Amaterasu: go with the outbreath and let go
Eos Amaterasu: "give up everything, that's the whole point"
Eos Amaterasu: the observer is last to go
Eos Amaterasu: no color commentator
Eos Amaterasu: "No time for poetry but exactly what is"
Lila Darkmatter: :)
Eos Amaterasu: ( kerouac's 30 essentials )

Lila Darkmatter: thank you very much Eos, Bertrum, Stevenaia, Paradise :)
Eos Amaterasu: bye Lila!~
stevenaia Michinaga: buy Lila
Paradise Tennant: smiles thank you lila namaste :)
Bertrum Resident: bye lila
Lila Darkmatter: wishing you happy sleep, Goodnight :) _/!\_
Bertrum Resident: A breath is but a breath: I have the earth; I shall undo all dying by my death---Roethke

--BELL--

Paradise Tennant: lovely :)
Eos Amaterasu: Thank you all - I must collapse into little heaps....
Paradise Tennant: smiles sweet dreams eos thank you :)
Eos Amaterasu: very nice roethke, yes
stevenaia Michinaga: night Eos, enjoy your sleep (and getting there)
Bertrum Resident: bye Eos
stevenaia Michinaga: :)

Paradise Tennant: smiles I have not read much roethke :) going to have to explore
Bertrum Resident: I Knew A Woman is a great one!
stevenaia Michinaga: wow, he tought at a local college
stevenaia Michinaga: and was expelled from there
stevenaia Michinaga: hehe
Paradise Tennant: smiles
Bertrum Resident: His body of work is powerful. I think it will stand the test of time
Paradise Tennant: often think of poetry as a thinner veil to what is real ... maybe like a bit of gauze
Paradise Tennant: maybe because it cuts out the unecessary :)
Bertrum Resident: I agree... ANd I think the same can be said that all art functions in that way.
Bertrum Resident: But poetry seems more concise...
stevenaia Michinaga: concise in what way, I view poetry as art and cloudlike use of words
Bertrum Resident: Can you expand a bit on cloudlike?
stevenaia Michinaga: but I am relatively knew to poetry in tems of appriciation
stevenaia Michinaga: words that evoke emotion and passion which are sometimes hard to define
Bertrum Resident: Ah, I see what you mean..
stevenaia Michinaga: the boundries of feelings are cloudlike

--BELL--

Bertrum Resident: There are different forms of poetry. Some aim to distill experience and emotion. On the other hand, epic poems and some narrative poems are not as tight in that way..
Paradise Tennant: http://gawow.com/roethke/poems/220.html
Paradise Tennant: his poems are wonderful
Paradise Tennant: they take you into his life .. so aptly
Paradise Tennant: http://gawow.com/roethke/poems/43.html
stevenaia Michinaga: nice
Bertrum Resident: Yes. And vividly so!

stevenaia Michinaga: bedtime for me
stevenaia Michinaga: night all
Paradise Tennant: smiles nite nite stev :) sweet dreams
stevenaia Michinaga: thanks for the poems
Bertrum Resident: Night Steve

Paradise Tennant: any other favourite poets ?
Bertrum Resident: Many!
Bertrum Resident: What are your favorites?
Paradise Tennant: hmmm ogden nash because I have a fondness for silly
Paradise Tennant: but .. like just about everyone ..
Paradise Tennant: rumi maybe best of all
Bertrum Resident: Rumi is truly special!

--BELL--

Bertrum Resident: One of my most favorite American contemporary poets is Jane Hirshfield. She was featured in the PBS program on The Buddha with another wonderful poet W. S. Merwin.
Paradise Tennant: hmmm
Bertrum Resident: Both are strongly influenced by Buddhism.
Paradise Tennant: smiles will read them .. they both look intriguing
Paradise Tennant: http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/unbound/bookauth/jhirsh.htm
Bertrum Resident: For example, I love her poem The Stone of Heaven.
Bertrum Resident: The tanslations in Ink Dark moon from the ancient Japanese are also wonderful.
Paradise Tennant: This pine tree by the rock must have its memories too: after a thousand years, see how its branches lean towards the ground Izumi Shikibu
Paradise Tennant: http://www.simplyhaiku.com/SHv4n4/reviews/Hirshfield.html
Paradise Tennant: good description of the sensitivity of her translations
Bertrum Resident: Yes.

--BELL--

Bertrum Resident: Have a good evening, Paradise.
Paradise Tennant: Kobayashi Issa is considered the last of the great masters of haiku and the many misfortunes he faced in life led him to be a strong believer in Buddhism. His work was tremendously influenced by his beliefs in Zen. The main idea in Zen-Buddhism is belief. A sign of blessing The snow on the quilt From the Pure Land
Paradise Tennant: smiles thank you Bertrum :) namaste my friend :)