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2012.10.07 08:00 - Guardians Session: Dark Topics
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No headersAttending this week's guardian session were: Agatha Macbeth : Alfred Kelberry : Aphrodite Macbain : Bleu Oleander : Bruce Mowbray : Eliza Madrigal : Eos Amaterasu : Lucinda Lavender : Maxine Walden : Santoshima Resident : Wol Euler
Two dark topics were chosen for the next two weeks:
1 - The Opportunities and Dread of Being Lost (including doubts and terrors)
2 - Absence - and, How Dark Matters Matter
(individual guardians should feel free to work with the topics if they like, as they like, when hosting their sessions)
(Thanks Eos for the great picture!)
We begin...
Agatha Macbeth: and Boxy!
Maxine Walden: hi, Wol and Boxy
Agatha Macbeth: and Lizzie ♥
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): ♥ ♥ ♥
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): ♥ ♥ ♥
mighty pirate (alfred.kelberry): ah, woly appears
Bleu (bleu.oleander): hey all
Agatha Macbeth: and Bleu :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hello Wonderful People
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Wol Euler: hello bleu, eliza
mighty pirate (alfred.kelberry): maxine :)
boxy's nose: Agatha Macbeth gently squeezes boxy's nose
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): um... happy about Fall, Wol?
Bleu (bleu.oleander): looking very fallish Wol :)
Wol Euler grins.
Maxine Walden: hi, Alfred. So nice to see you!!
mighty pirate (alfred.kelberry): likewise :)
Wol Euler: it is one of my four favourite seasons
Bleu (bleu.oleander): haha
Agatha Macbeth: Autumny Wollie
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Wol Euler: possibly my favouritest
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I love Fall, but we don't get it until Winter
mighty pirate (alfred.kelberry): i prefer winter to fall
Bleu (bleu.oleander): october one of my favorite months
Wol Euler: too near the equator
Bleu (bleu.oleander): haha us too Eliza
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Wol Euler: brb, going to get a cup of tea before we start
Bleu (bleu.oleander): still around 100 here lol
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yikes!
Agatha Macbeth: OMG
mighty pirate (alfred.kelberry): 37 c
Bleu (bleu.oleander): but it's a dry heat haha
Maxine Walden: we are having an unseasonably sunny, thus colorful fall here; no rain, usually rainy and gray.
Agatha Macbeth: Just as well eh
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): so your hair looks better than mine Bleu ^^
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): that sounds lovely Maxine
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): is everyone friendlier?
Bleu (bleu.oleander): right! great hair weather
Agatha Macbeth: Too hot to get aggressive I reckon
Bleu (bleu.oleander): hi Bruce
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Oh Bruce! Surprised to see you
Agatha Macbeth: Hiya Brucie
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): glad you made it
Maxine Walden: yes, more sunny dispositions than when it is rainy and thus everyone turns inward with melancholy
Wol Euler: hello bruce, nice to see you again
Maxine Walden: hi, Bruce
mighty pirate (alfred.kelberry): 8:01 - shall we start?
Bleu (bleu.oleander): yup
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Stevenaia is attending a funeral today but sends his best to everyone
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Maxine Walden: ah, sorry for his loss
Bleu (bleu.oleander) sends a hug to steve
Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Hi, folks. Whay am I having such trouble sitting on a cushion???
Wol Euler: poor stevie
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): there Bruce, you made it :)
Agatha Macbeth: You look fine to me Brucie
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Sure, Alfred :) Is there a hot topic that has you jumping in your seat?
Agatha Macbeth: A hot Boxy?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :))
mighty pirate (alfred.kelberry): not that i know of
boxy's nose: Bruce pokes boxy's nose
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): OK :) just checking...
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): There are a few things to bring up...
Bleu (bleu.oleander): I saw Art of Being was on the list ...
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes Bleu would you like to begin?
Bleu (bleu.oleander): thanks sure
Art of Being...
Bleu (bleu.oleander): haven't heard from any of the "teams"
Bleu (bleu.oleander): but our team is working on a project
Bleu (bleu.oleander): any others?
Wol Euler nods.
Wol Euler: aph and druth and san and myself are hard at work
Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Yes, my team is also working on a project -- San and I.
Bleu (bleu.oleander): with the change of date to Oct 28 gives more time
Bleu (bleu.oleander): great!
Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Yes, much appreciated!
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): as usual I did not join a team but as the date approaches I begin to panic and feel I should have :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): much to juggle lately
Bleu (bleu.oleander): still time :)
Wol Euler: including rest and recuperation
Bruce (bruce.mowbray): You're still welcome to join "my" team, Eliza.
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): thanks Wol, yes
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and thanks Bruce... fun to be an appreciative audience too
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): i'll send an email note to rally the teams :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yay, thanks Bleu
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hi Eos :)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): hi Eos :)
Wol Euler: hello eos
Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Howdy, Eos!
Wol Euler: bye eos :)
Agatha Macbeth: Hello E
Bruce (bruce.mowbray): where are you going, eos!?
Wol Euler: take two
Agatha Macbeth: The dreaded sim boundary strikes again
Wol Euler: and .... action
Agatha Macbeth: WB E
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): finding the gaps :)
Eos Amaterasu: Whew!
Wol Euler smiles.
Agatha Macbeth: A glitch in the matrix
Eos Amaterasu: Nothing worse than intermittent reality!
Eliza (eliza.madrigal) laughs
Wol Euler: heheheh
Bleu (bleu.oleander): haha
Maxine Walden: Falling into the multiple realities, Eos
boxy's nose: Bruce pokes boxy's nose
Eliza (eliza.madrigal) wonders if she looks under the floor if there are upside down guardians
Eos Amaterasu: (Wol is festive in fall colors)
Maxine Walden: :))
Wol Euler: /me smiles.
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I don't think we've heard from the WG since the last meeting - were there any updates or issues of concern?
Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Not really, Eliza... Basically we were interested in the Art project and . . . (checks log of WG...)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): thanks Bruce... just let us know if there is something that should/could be addressed I guess
Bruce (bruce.mowbray) is sorry that he doesn't have the log immediately available.
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): no worries at all, thank you!
Bleu (bleu.oleander): the last meeting was mostly about Art of Being
Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Does Bleu have more to say about the Art Project, though?
Bleu (bleu.oleander): no more
Bleu (bleu.oleander): just rally the teams
Bruce (bruce.mowbray): ok. cool, and thanks.
Eos Amaterasu looks for the raven...
SL Retreat...
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Next item then, is the upcoming SL retreat...
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Nov 9-11
Wol Euler: ah :)
Bruce (bruce.mowbray): one seat left?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Let's see... Wol, Eos, Eliza, San, Zen, Aph, Agatha (?), Riddle (?), Maxine...
Bruce (bruce.mowbray): so 9 in maximum?
Wol Euler nods.
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): so really it is about flexibility and how many sessions one might miss and still participate
Bruce (bruce.mowbray): cool, thanks, Wol.
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Riddle may have a business trip
Wol Euler: and aggers may have ... ?
Bleu (bleu.oleander): dates are too busy for me to attend
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): just may miss one session, right Aggers?
Agatha Macbeth: May have what?
Agatha Macbeth: Oh yes
Wol Euler: :)
Wol Euler: if we have people hesitating whether to attend, and others champing at the bit to do so ... then ...
Bruce (bruce.mowbray) listens carefully.
Wol Euler: sooner or later the hesitators must decide
Wol Euler: no pressure :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Eos, would you say more about the structure of the retreat? And then Wol about 'themes' ?
Eos Amaterasu: Hmm....
Eos Amaterasu: well, there is a wiki page that talks about what we've learned so far about doing SL rereats
https://wiki.playasbeing.org/Retreats/About_Retreats/SL_Retreat_Patterns
https://wiki.playasbeing.org/Retreats/About_Retreats/SL_Retreat_Patterns
Agatha Macbeth: I'll look at that
Eos Amaterasu: one thing is to give it a boundary in time (the weekend) and space
Eos Amaterasu: idea is to meet, be together, in SL, during the retreat, several times per day
Eos Amaterasu: and then when we're in RL, but still in retreat, we are not together
Wol Euler nods.
Eos Amaterasu: play with continuity and discontinuity of those
Eos Amaterasu: also a way to bring SL retreat presence into RL
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes.... in a way it is a solitary retreat, as well as a group retreat
Eos Amaterasu: hmm, yes, interesting
Wol Euler: the hours away from SL are definitely still part of the retreat
Wol Euler: you are not "off duty" then :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal) nods
Eos Amaterasu: Sunday I believe will be a silent day
Eos Amaterasu: silence including the iAirways
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): though we will still meet
Wol Euler grins.
Eos Amaterasu: talking stick approach to discussion during SL sessions
mighty pirate (alfred.kelberry): silent day? at the retreat?
Wol Euler: hello san
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): On the email list we can begin discussing some of these details also, yes
Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Hey, San!
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hi San
Wol Euler: I'll send you a notecard of what we said so far
Eos Amaterasu: ~~
Bleu (bleu.oleander): hi San
Maxine Walden: hi, San
San (santoshima): hello, can't see anybody ...
Eos Amaterasu: the suggestion was made to have a silent day, or period, during the SL retreat
Eos Amaterasu: the silence being no talking except "functional talking"
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): each has to ask themselves basically, what is the purpose of retreat and how to work with the silence
Agatha Macbeth: Hello San, we are here :p
San (santoshima): see you now
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Eos Amaterasu: and that includes things like email, facebook, twitter, ....
Eliza (eliza.madrigal) nods :)
Eos Amaterasu: This is the first time we will have done that during a SL retreat
Maxine Walden: (just imagining a burning silent issue which we may have to discipline selves not to focus on during retreat: results of US election just a few days earlier)
Eos Amaterasu: SL/RL, really
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hi Luci :)
Wol Euler: heheheh
Wol Euler: hello luci
Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Hey, Luci!
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): this is true Maxine :))
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Luci
Maxine Walden: :)
Eos Amaterasu: hi Luci
Wol Euler: I'll sned you a notecard of what we said so far
Maxine Walden: hi, Luci
Bleu (bleu.oleander): hi Luci
Lucinda Lavender: HI sorry to be late!
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): thank you Wol
Lucinda Lavender: thanks Wol
Wol Euler: yw
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Wol would you like to say something about theme of the retreat?
Wol Euler: the general theme this time will be Pema's formulation "Being Seen"
Bruce (bruce.mowbray) listens.
Wol Euler: as in letting yourself be seen
Wol Euler: we spend so much time and effort raising defenses and images
mighty pirate (alfred.kelberry): it will be a silent retreat? no talking?
Wol Euler: no, boxy, just silent period on the sunday
Wol Euler: lots of talking other times
mighty pirate (alfred.kelberry): ok
mighty pirate (alfred.kelberry): one week?
Wol Euler: two and a half days
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): it is a RL retreat with SL supports, which in a sense is a solitary retreat with group supports
Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Nov. 9-11
Wol Euler: eliza mailed the group about this several times, most recently I think on the 30th
Eos Amaterasu:
We will start with a short session 2 pm SLT, Friday:
We will start with a short session 2 pm SLT, Friday:
a short check-in with one another, and meditation
Then, on Saturday and Sunday we will meet:
6 am - 8 am SLT (10 am - Noon am AST)
1 pm - 3 pm SLT (5 pm - 7 pm AST)
RL walks and informal meeting in between
Silent in-between time on Sunday
Silence: no web, email, as well as talking
Wol Euler: ty
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): thanks Eos
mighty pirate (alfred.kelberry): ouch, no web for 2.5 days
Eos Amaterasu: (no web for 1 day)
Wol Euler: silence during the silent time
Wol Euler: not silent during the not silent times :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes... just a window of silence really Boxy :)
Wol Euler: don't worry :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): a taste
Agatha Macbeth: Be happy
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Bruce (bruce.mowbray): ;-)
Wol Euler: perhaps that might be a special issue you might consider :)
mighty pirate (alfred.kelberry): 1 day i can handle :)
Wol Euler: let your internettedness be seen :)
Wol Euler: (back to the topic :)
Eos Amaterasu: STDOUT => dev/null
Wol Euler: ha!
Wol Euler: our suggestion is that we consider what the theme means for each of us
Agatha Macbeth: なるほど^^
Wol Euler: how (whether) it applies to us
Eliza (eliza.madrigal) nods
Wol Euler: and consider that during the togehter times and also in the private meditation time
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): we have time to share and work out details in the group, but it seemed a good idea to discuss here a bit too
Wol Euler nods.
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): (there is a separate email group for those who are committed to the time)
Wol Euler: ideally we'd like to have a structure agreed among those who will take part, before it begins
Maxine Walden: wonderful theme, seems very pertinent and timely, in my view
Wol Euler: so we can go smoothly into the session
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes... it has been a while, and it is hoped there won't be as long of a gap between this and the next one
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): So maybe that is enough on that item for now :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal) peeks at agenda.... ah, does anyone have thoughts on Pila's idea of an Ethics workshop?
Bruce (bruce.mowbray): I hope you'll have a meeting place that will not leand itself to interruptions from those not in the retreat itself.
Wol Euler: hopefully ;) there is a special area for it, but there is no way to prevent people from TPing in
Bleu (bleu.oleander): say more about the ethics workshop ...
Lucinda Lavender: oops friends I will be torn attentionwise here... will read up shortly...getting ims in RL of import
mighty pirate (alfred.kelberry): i think any workshop initiative is a great idea
Eos Amaterasu: We had an informal ethics workshop a few years ago (on Varela's 'Ethical Know How')
Bruce (bruce.mowbray): I think Pila's idea is excellent -- especially since I Ching will probably end at the end of this year.
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Ohh okay Luci, tc
San (santoshima): bye luci
Bleu (bleu.oleander): really liked Varela's book
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): sitting on my desk atm :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Eos Amaterasu: Wow!
mighty pirate (alfred.kelberry): did pila propose to lead it?
Lucinda Lavender: I am not leaving...just in two worlds
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Pila did not...
mighty pirate (alfred.kelberry): aww
Maxine Walden: :), bleu
Wol Euler: you can, boxy :)
Agatha Macbeth: Only two Luci? ;-)
San (santoshima): perhaps Pila could present that idea at the next guardian meeting? say more what he has in mind ~
Wol Euler: good idea
Bruce (bruce.mowbray): good idea.
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): let me find the session wherein we discussed it...
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I prob should have included this in the email
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): https://wiki.playasbeing.org/Chat_Logs/2012/09/2012.09.17_19%3a00_-_So_Many_Angles_to_Ethics
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): It took a lot of organization and follow through for Pila to keep up with I-Ching workshop...
Bleu (bleu.oleander): love his phrase "re-enchantment of wisdom" :)
Bruce (bruce.mowbray): ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: Much appreciated too
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and what he says is that he is not really up to doing that again but my impression is that he'd like to be part of a workshop that might be similar
Eos Amaterasu: this is somewhat a topic of relation of PaB to action?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): say more please?
Eos Amaterasu: of wei to wu?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): certainly could be!
Agatha Macbeth: Wei to go
Eos Amaterasu: Ethics has to do with how we act....
Eos Amaterasu: PaB with how to be (to some extent).... so how to act?
Bleu (bleu.oleander): :) Aggers
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): If we chose to do it we could actually start with the small Varela book again...
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and set aside a few weeks, then come from another angle
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I-Ching met once a month I think, not each week
Agatha Macbeth: Aph! :))
Bleu (bleu.oleander): hey Aph
Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Hey, Aph!
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hi Aphrodite, glad you made it
Bruce (bruce.mowbray): How's Padua?
Eos Amaterasu: http://www.amazon.com/Ethical-Know-H...dp/0804730334/
Aphrodite Macbain: bongioorno
Wol Euler: whispers: hello aph! I'
Wol Euler: I'll send you a notecard of what we've said so far
Eos Amaterasu: Ciao, bella
Aphrodite Macbain: smiles- so nice to be here
Agatha Macbeth: So nice to have you
Bleu (bleu.oleander): have to slip out ... take care all :)
Aphrodite Macbain: thanks wol
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): tc Bleu :)
Aphrodite Macbain: thanks aggers
Agatha Macbeth: :)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): bye bye
Eos Amaterasu: ciao bleu!
Wol Euler: bye bleu, take care
Agatha Macbeth: Take care Bleu
Bruce (bruce.mowbray): I also need to slip out -- I'm taking my niece to Quaker Meeting today. . .
Aphrodite Macbain: hi bye blue
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): OH, wonderful Bruce
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): say hello for us :)
Agatha Macbeth: Quake well Brucie
Bruce (bruce.mowbray): We quack. but well.
Aphrodite Macbain: bye
Eos Amaterasu: :-), Bruce
Wol Euler: be bruce, have a ducky day
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): So we'll come back to the ethics topics in a few weeks then... (btw if I seem a little off in pacing it is true, hah, didn't sleep much last night)
Agatha Macbeth: Quack
mighty pirate (alfred.kelberry): why wait a few weeks?
Agatha Macbeth: Aww *hugs Liz*
Eos Amaterasu: next guardian meeting
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): well.. we still have 'topics' to choose this week
boxy's nose: Agatha Macbeth slowly strokes boxy's wet nose
Eos Amaterasu has a pillow hat somewhere....
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Boredom was a really fruitful topic!
Wol Euler: /me smiles.
Agatha Macbeth: It didn't bore anyone then?
mighty pirate (alfred.kelberry): we don't have much workshop proposals. i think we should fast-track this one.
Aphrodite Macbain: what made boredom so excciting?
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): well we can have a special session to work out details? like a theme session?
Wol Euler: boxy, given that it will follow after I-ching, and that I-ching will run until the end of the year, I personally feel that we have some leeway to work it out.
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): re ethics?
Eos Amaterasu: you had to be there :-)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): haha
Aphrodite Macbain: :-) I'll read the log
Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
mighty pirate (alfred.kelberry): woly, ah. iching. yes, indeed.
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): the topic from the week before was "connections" but perhaps it was too broad
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I dropped the ball on that one myself, having not seen it before I hosted
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): but I didn't see it much when looking at other sessions... so I wonder if we want to pick it up in a different way
Eos Amaterasu: I think Aph? or Paradise? said it was 'connections between people'.... creating a good "framing" of a topic is an art
Aphrodite Macbain: I did?
Eos Amaterasu: I think it was Paradise
Agatha Macbeth: I think Para introduced it, yes
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :) topic as art... like that
Agatha Macbeth: Often abstract art...
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): hahah
Aphrodite Macbain: my mind is too full of italian buildigs
Eliza (eliza.madrigal) smiles
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): rightly so Aph
Aphrodite Macbain: and getting lost a lot
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yay
Agatha Macbeth: Wow Aph, hope there's enough room
Aphrodite Macbain: and going the wrong way
Aphrodite Macbain: far too many times
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :) maybe that is a good topic... getting lost
Aphrodite Macbain: wish you were here
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :) Aph
Aphrodite Macbain: getting lost-I can talk a lot about it
Eos Amaterasu: losing your way
Aphrodite Macbain: inventing new pathways
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Bleu actually brought this up sort of, this morning... in talking about an artist who was in transition... in between expressions
Aphrodite Macbain: I find I can get lost a lot more happily on a full stomach
Eos Amaterasu: good theme, yes
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): are we all okay with that one? What is another idea?
Agatha Macbeth ponders 'in transition'
Aphrodite Macbain: what is the theme for this coming week?
Aphrodite Macbain: boredom\/
Aphrodite Macbain: ?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): that was last week Aph :)
Aphrodite Macbain: oops
Eos Amaterasu: boredom in Veniuce
Agatha Macbeth: Boredom II - the sequel?
Aphrodite Macbain: lol
San (santoshima): absence 101
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Absence is interesting
Aphrodite Macbain: can one get bored while getting lost?
Eos Amaterasu: can you say more about absence?
Aphrodite Macbain: When you find something you think you have lost, it is an exhilarating experience
Agatha Macbeth: Makes the heart grow fonder?
San (santoshima): :)
Aphrodite Macbain: absence makes the heart go fonder
Maxine Walden: seems to me one can be intrigued or maybe terrified when feeling lost, probably not so much bored
Agatha Macbeth: Snap
Eliza (eliza.madrigal) listens
Agatha Macbeth: Or is it 'out of sight is out of mind'?
Aphrodite Macbain: getting lost is the stuff of nightmares
Maxine Walden: agree, Aph, it can be so
Wol Euler: not knowing where you are, on the other hand, is the essence of exploration :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): dark fairy tales
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :) Wol
Wol Euler: there is a difrerence :)
Wol Euler: Lewis and Clark were not lost :)
Eos Amaterasu: to boldly go....
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): aimless wandering
Aphrodite Macbain: what is it that prevents us from not being terrified?
Maxine Walden: daring to explore our 'unknown worlds' which are also the residence of our doubts and terrors
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): beautiful Maxine
San (santoshima): curiousity, aph
Eos Amaterasu: hmm, "doubts and terrors" as a theme?
Wol Euler: oh, nice, we can take that as an aspect of Being Seen!
Wol Euler: self-seen
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Aphrodite Macbain: If I know the boundaries, and feel strong I wont get terrified. If I dont know the boundaries, I do
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I like these dark topics...
Maxine Walden: I spend a lot of time thinking, dwelling perhaps, in that region...the unknown....know the players well !! :)
Aphrodite Macbain: mmmm wonder why Wliza
Agatha Macbeth: Dark comes before the dawn
Aphrodite Macbain: smiles at Maxine
San (santoshima): { we are nothing if not dark topics }
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): indeed
Eos Amaterasu: dark matter matters
Aphrodite Macbain: we wouldn't recognize the light otherwise
boxy's nose: Wol Euler slowly strokes boxy's wet nose
Maxine Walden: dark matters matter
Eliza (eliza.madrigal) smiles to think I phrased the notice for this session that we'd discuss matters and no matter
Aphrodite Macbain notes that Wol is loosing her leaves
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): wow there is a lot here....
Agatha Macbeth: Leaf well alone
Aphrodite Macbain: lol
Eos Amaterasu: the perils of an autumn dress
Agatha Macbeth: Notes and nuts
Aphrodite Macbain: I think the subject of being lost, or looking for home is a wonderful topic
Agatha Macbeth: I agree Aph
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): so being lost - with connotations of explorations (will use Maxine's phrasing to frame), and "Absence" ?
Wol Euler nods.
Wol Euler: "lost" and "home" are pretty much opposites, aren't they ...
Aphrodite Macbain: the light and dark sides of being lost
Eos Amaterasu: and maybe "how dark matters matter" following that?
Aphrodite Macbain: yes for me they are Wol
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): interesting
Maxine Walden: the opportunity and the dread perhaps, Aph
Maxine Walden: for me, Wol tis the state of mind which determines whether 'lost' and 'home' are opposites or companions
Aphrodite Macbain: I was in an old maze a few days ago and I must admit I found it a bit frightening
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): how wonderful
Wol Euler listens.
Aphrodite Macbain: fortunately there was a man up on top of the maze looking down
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): like a lifeguard?
Wol Euler: like a tennis umpire?
Wol Euler: heheh
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): heheh
Aphrodite Macbain: helping those who really lost it
Maxine Walden: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: he felt like some sort of god
Eos Amaterasu: sounds like a sally :-)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): night walk
Aphrodite Macbain: smiles
Aphrodite Macbain: when I climed up and spoke to me he grinned at me and I noticed he had lost most of his teeth
Eos Amaterasu: Okay, on to Canadian Thanksgiving - bye all!
San (santoshima): oh right, forgot
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Happy Thanksgiving Eos!
San (santoshima): bye Eos
Wol Euler: bye eos
Agatha Macbeth: Happy flapjacks
Aphrodite Macbain: Happy thanksgiving to all
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and to all Canadian friends
Maxine Walden: hard to end the hour here; entrancing conversation
Aphrodite Macbain: and pumpkin pie
Maxine Walden: yes, happy Thanksgiving!
San (santoshima): { & all the poor turkeys }
Aphrodite Macbain: No once celebrates it in Vicenza
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes Maxine, feel that too... hope that I can present the topics as intended
Aphrodite Macbain: ssoooo= next topic is getting lost?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): opportunities and dread in lostness
Wol Euler: nice
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): something like that....
Wol Euler: lostness as opportunity
Aphrodite Macbain: kk
Aphrodite Macbain: i'll try it out for size at my 1pm
Wol Euler: the handbook could be Rebecca Solnit's "Field Guide to Getting Lost"
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :) follow the dralas...
Maxine Walden: sorry, have to go...
Maxine Walden: bye all
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe the dralas are lost too?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Thank you maxine :)
Agatha Macbeth: See ya Liz
San (santoshima): same, bye and thank you everyone
Wol Euler: bye maxine, take care
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): hah Aggers
Aphrodite Macbain: llllaaaaallllaaaa
Wol Euler: bye san
Aphrodite Macbain: bye everyone. sniff
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I will miss your session today Aph due to another meeting but it will be hard!
Aphrodite Macbain: awww
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I know.... grrr
Aphrodite Macbain: have a good meeting
Agatha Macbeth: You can always do your dance Liz
Wol Euler: bye eliza, have a nap!
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): haha
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): okay...
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): ♬ 오빤~~강남 스~타일~~ ♪♪
Agatha Macbeth: YAY
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): -«☁ »- 옵.옵.옵.옵. -«☁ »-
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): ♬ 헤~이 Sexy Lady~~ ♪♪
Lucinda Lavender: haha!!
Eliza (eliza.madrigal) grins
Aphrodite Macbain: lol
Agatha Macbeth: TY
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and Boxy sleeps through all the excitement
Agatha Macbeth: Bless him
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Agatha Macbeth: only time he's quiet
Wol Euler: heheheheh
Eliza (eliza.madrigal) grins
Wol Euler: dear distracted boxy
Wol Euler: he's lost too
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): aw
boxy's nose: Wol Euler softly kisses boxy's nose
Aphrodite Macbain: he doesnt look too distressed
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): So nice to see you all... yes a nap may be in order... gorgeous pictures btw Aph
Wol Euler smiles.
Agatha Macbeth: Nap well Liz
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): bye for now
Wol Euler: take care
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