The Guardian for this meeting was Lucinda Lavender. The comments are by Lucinda Lavender. Sitting with Xs...Boxy arrives toward the end.

Xs Andree: ao off
Lucinda Lavender: Hi xs:)
Xs Andree: good morning lucy
Xs Andree: in the sky with diamonds
Xs Andree: your gown is lovely
Lucinda Lavender: nodding:)
Lucinda Lavender: thanks so much
Lucinda Lavender: it is feathery...
Xs Andree: You remind me of Lucinda
Xs Andree giggles
Lucinda Lavender: I am something like lucinda:)
Xs Andree: you are, she was really special to me. I wasn't sure how to tell her.
Lucinda Lavender: aw
Lucinda Lavender: how to say someone is special...
Xs Andree shrugs
Xs Andree: I talk too much, maybe she knows, and I wasn't supposed to say anyway.
Xs Andree: like a secret between us
Lucinda Lavender: it is sort of challenging in 2L to know what is going on...
Xs Andree: 2L?
Xs Andree: second life
Xs Andree: kk
Lucinda Lavender: second life
Xs Andree: sorry, i forgot I was here.
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Xs Andree: I know a Lucinda irl
Lucinda Lavender: really!
Xs Andree: nod
Lucinda Lavender: wow!
Lucinda Lavender: not many I meet!
Lucinda Lavender: tho I love to
Xs Andree: I've only met one
Lucinda Lavender: I am curious what part of the world she was from...just as a way of knowing where the name was used
Lucinda Lavender: no need to say of course
Lucinda Lavender: and..this is recorded as I bet you know
Lucinda Lavender: for me...the name was on both sides of my family
Lucinda Lavender: grandmother and great grandmother
Xs Andree: I know it is recorded.
Xs Andree: She was from Kansas.
Lucinda Lavender: really...my people were from Ohio and Indiana
Lucinda Lavender: it feels like a mid or eastern us name...
Xs Andree: We have wanderlust in our blood, mine are from Pennsylvania to california
Lucinda Lavender: I have been watching via youtube the program about the us seen from the eyes of Stephen Fry...have you heard of that?
Lucinda Lavender: As a man from UK his visit to all the states of the US is quite interesting. He drives a cab...
Lucinda Lavender: and explores
--BELL--

Lucinda Lavender: and interviews
Lucinda Lavender: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0i2abKXr9c
Lucinda Lavender: this is long
Lucinda Lavender: but it gives an interesting start to seeing the US from another's eyes
Lucinda Lavender: I like the word interview:)
Xs Andree: I've heard of stephen fry, but i haven't seen it.
Lucinda Lavender: like looking into and in between and allowing the view to form
Xs Andree grins
Xs Andree: I like how you look at words. Not many people look at words
Lucinda Lavender: SL feels explorotory as well
Xs Andree: RL is exploratory
Xs Andree: much more to see, everything here is a symbol. Being here is not as rewarding as there.
Lucinda Lavender: ah so in some ways removed...
Xs Andree: I like SL because of the people i meet here, people are different here than in RL
Lucinda Lavender: do you think they are more creative?
Lucinda Lavender: or imaginative?
Lucinda Lavender: playful?
Xs Andree: I think they are less afraid here, less afraid to explore
Lucinda Lavender: nodding:)
Xs Andree: in RL, they want to be one thing, seen as one thing. Here that clinging to an identity doesn't last as long.
Xs Andree: IRL everyone wants to be "real", they don't want to be "fake' everyone wants the "truth"
Xs Andree: willing to die to have it, ready to kill over it.
Lucinda Lavender: thinking about attachment to view...
Lucinda Lavender: pride
Xs Andree: yeah
Xs Andree: I do get that way at times. but I wonder, if my truth is that there is no truth
Xs Andree: then what is my truth?
Xs Andree: that there is one, and there isn't?
Xs Andree: and if that is the truth, and there isn't a truth...then what is that?
Xs Andree: a really good friend of mine said once to me (he's a much better nihilist than I am)
Xs Andree: "Everything I know is a lie, and everything is true"
Xs Andree: lol he also said to me once, "THere is no addendum to 'Nothing matters'"
Xs Andree: because i kept saying "Nothing batters but....." and then i'd put something there
Xs Andree: Nothing matters but love
Xs Andree: nothing matters but family
--BELL--

Xs Andree: no addendum, Nothing matters
Lucinda Lavender: hmmm...my philosophical thinking is not to complex...I like the practice of dropping my thinking voice in my head...and resting without it chattering on but I also feel ..and they sometimes inspire words to know what is going on.
Lucinda Lavender: feelings inspire thought for me...and noticing stuff
Lucinda Lavender: looking, and sometimes it is in dreams that I notice things
Lucinda Lavender: and I keep track of that
Xs Andree: I agree.
Xs Andree: I looked for something to believe in, something worth believing in
Xs Andree: and i found nothing
Lucinda Lavender: have had the fand i:))
Lucinda Lavender: oops
Lucinda Lavender: did not see what I started:)
Lucinda Lavender: hello Boxy:)
Lucinda Lavender: we are talking about believing in something...and truth
Lucinda Lavender: have felt the nudge of there being truth
Lucinda Lavender: and it was not about religion ...more about there being more than we know
Xs Andree: when I look at truth it vanishes
Xs Andree: when I observe it, it flys away from me
Alfred Kelberry: hi :)
Alfred Kelberry: xs, you become a real pab regular :)
Xs Andree: yeaah...i need to get out more.
Xs Andree: :P
Alfred Kelberry: yes, take your loved one out for a walk :)
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Alfred Kelberry: luci, how's seattle doing?
Xs Andree: actually...I have been in the practice of coming here when I'm free to do so, I don't schedule it anymore, or make sure i don't miss whatever meeting. But if I'm free, I come here.
Lucinda Lavender: uh oh...nothing is forming in the type place
Lucinda Lavender: chicken feeding time
Alfred Kelberry: xs, i like this approach :)
Lucinda Lavender: brb
Xs Andree smiles.
Alfred Kelberry: luci's particles remind me of sun :)
Xs Andree: they remind me of peratatsuul
Alfred Kelberry: she's so good in making particles of all forms and velocities :)
Alfred Kelberry: pera-what?
Xs Andree giggles
Xs Andree: She is!
Xs Andree: the divide between worlds of what is, and what isn't.
Alfred Kelberry: hmm
--BELL--

Xs Andree: symbolized by the stillborn dragon, the first "is" out of the gerosh, where all things are at once at all times
Xs Andree: it is the first "I am not"
Xs Andree: The "I am not everything"
Xs Andree: It is the mouth of the breakwater, the river into the void, from its mouth pours what is, into what is not, and makes the physical world
Xs Andree: spewing creation into the void
Lucinda Lavender: back..I like that way you have said that
Xs Andree: welcome back
Xs Andree: but its just my own creation myth
Lucinda Lavender: I like that
Lucinda Lavender: I had to write a personal myth once
Xs Andree: really? Can I hear it?
Lucinda Lavender: I was too young to know how really
Lucinda Lavender: it was before I had explored the world
Lucinda Lavender: I am not having much luck typing at the moment but it was about my finding I was not alone in the world
Lucinda Lavender: it was about how being together was the potential
Lucinda Lavender: as long as the muddiness of emotional stuff was not the focus of ones view
Alfred Kelberry: how old you were?
Lucinda Lavender: it spoke of me as a hungry pig...sad and alone in the woods
Lucinda Lavender: (I was 20)
Lucinda Lavender: :))
Lucinda Lavender: about learning to trust
Alfred Kelberry: hungry pigs :)
Lucinda Lavender: hungry for destraction
Lucinda Lavender: distraction
Lucinda Lavender: but sitting in the presnt moment with others...very powerful for me
Lucinda Lavender: feeling the unwinding of the universe
Alfred Kelberry: i don't get it, but it sounds nicely mythical :)
Lucinda Lavender: just a picture in my head I find helpful in truth
Lucinda Lavender: stepping back from the personal maybe
Lucinda Lavender: I have to go dears
Alfred Kelberry: yes, time is up
Alfred Kelberry: thank you
Lucinda Lavender: thanks to you both:)
Lucinda Lavender: nice to have this time
Lucinda Lavender: glad to meet you ex:)
Lucinda Lavender: xs
Lucinda Lavender: sso slow
--BELL--

Lucinda Lavender: bye for now:)
Bleu Oleander: hi Xs :)
Xs Andree: Hey Bleu
Bleu Oleander: just stopped by to change the hosting sign :)
Bleu Oleander: take care and have a nice day
Bleu Oleander: bye bye
Xs Andree: kk