The Guardian for this meeting was Lucinda Lavender. The comments are by Lucinda Lavender. Attending were
Yaku, Rhia, Susan, and for a time Eliza, Arch, Darren. This session covers illusion, memory, positive energy,
Darren Islar: bye everyone :)
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Darren
Bruce Mowbray: May all be happy -- See you all later!
Pema Pera: bfn
Eliza Madrigal: Be happy and well
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Bleu
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks :)
Bleu Oleander: bye bye
Lucinda Lavender: bye everyone ...:)
Eliza Madrigal: I can't stay too long but it is lovely to see you Luci
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye all leavers
Eliza Madrigal: Two more weeks of this odd feeling of cross-over
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Lucinda Lavender: nice to see you also:)
Lucinda Lavender: ?
Yakuzza Lethecus: hi luci :)
Eliza Madrigal: amazing to linger in the boundary and notice the way it feels
Eliza Madrigal: between sessions
Lucinda Lavender: hi Yaku
Yakuzza Lethecus: how was the trip ?
Lucinda Lavender: the thoughts that were between one group morphing into another one
Eliza Madrigal: mmmm :))
Lucinda Lavender: my trip has been good...just few more days
Eliza Madrigal: What is left on the agenda?
Lucinda Lavender: :)..one more day of the MEt...and some shopping :)
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Eliza Madrigal: be sure to leave yourself many excuses to return
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Lucinda Lavender: I think so!
Eliza Madrigal: that is rarely a problem in NY I guess
Eliza Madrigal: especially if one'd daughter is there ;-)
Lucinda Lavender: I find I am a little intimidated by the hugeness of it all
Eliza Madrigal: hm, in what way?
Lucinda Lavender: or was just tired...needed in the heat to stay home and rest a bit...
Eliza Madrigal nods, lots to take in
Lucinda Lavender: allow everything to perculate
Lucinda Lavender: I really see what an amazing museum the Met is...
Lucinda Lavender: a container for amazing seeing and skill over great expanses of time
Eliza Madrigal: container for seeing, what a curious phrase
Eliza Madrigal: Sorry not to stay this morning... kids are home and I've a project to wrap up ...
Lucinda Lavender: ok..thanks for the visit tho:)
Eliza Madrigal: thank YOU and I hope Yaku is *here* :)))
Eliza Madrigal: heheh
Eliza Madrigal: Hugs
Lucinda Lavender: I am happy either way:)
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye eliza :)
Lucinda Lavender: hugs to you...
Eliza Madrigal: Bye for now
Lucinda Lavender: bye
Yakuzza Lethecus: well, i am not too talkative as usually
Lucinda Lavender: is ok:)
Lucinda Lavender: is it hot where you are now?
Yakuzza Lethecus: oh no
Yakuzza Lethecus: just 20 degrees celsius
Yakuzza Lethecus: cloudy
Yakuzza Lethecus: not too bad
Yakuzza Lethecus: and it just started to rain a little
Lucinda Lavender: very green then?
Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, here it´s usually green, we had a pretty dry period
Yakuzza Lethecus: but since last week it fortunatly started raining
--BELL--
Lucinda Lavender: there has been a heat advisory the past few days...90's that felt like 100 farenheight
Lucinda Lavender: wondering if you have a favorite part of the time sessions that you could describe to me...
Lucinda Lavender: HI ARch:)
Lucinda Lavender: if not that is fine...
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey arch
Lucinda Lavender: and Koya...
Yakuzza Lethecus: I think with the illusions
Archmage Atlantis: Lucinda, I am glad you are here
Yakuzza Lethecus: bruce talked about that in his report
Yakuzza Lethecus: well, i don´t follow very mindfully anyway
Archmage Atlantis: I have come to say goobye
Lucinda Lavender: ah illusions...
Lucinda Lavender: where are you going Arch?
Archmage Atlantis: This is the illusion I live ibn
Archmage Atlantis: sl
Archmage Atlantis: I am leaving here
Lucinda Lavender: and coming back?
Archmage Atlantis: I realized that by telling about Bruce in rl, I compromised the mission
Archmage Atlantis: This avatar must die
Lucinda Lavender: are you sure?
Archmage Atlantis: I only came to say, the mission is more important than te av
Archmage Atlantis: I go now
Lucinda Lavender: ok:) have a safe transformation then
Lucinda Lavender: illusion then...
Lucinda Lavender: can you say a bit more..?
Lucinda Lavender: illusions that Bruce was aware of in the hospital perhaps...
Yakuzza Lethecus: well, i am never sure if i can repeat things correctly
Lucinda Lavender: i know what you mean...
Lucinda Lavender: maybe you could describe an level of illusion that interests you...
Yakuzza Lethecus: ups i was checking the log, and it was related to pema mentioning illusions
Yakuzza Lethecus: but illusions are generally interesting like for example the fact that we have the illusion of sitting here together
Yakuzza Lethecus: or how we come to be
Yakuzza Lethecus: one of my favorite subjects is of course how the environment we are in has a tacid influence on everything that we do
Yakuzza Lethecus: how you might have an impact since when i see you i think of colors
Yakuzza Lethecus: beer that ur husband brews, all the little pieces we see of someone over time
--BELL--
Lucinda Lavender: yes...we are operating on a body of information that we associate with the image on the screen...I am presenting this lovely avatar tho I am much different in rl...what i present even in the stories that i tell.. a certain level of truth about my life are even so stories...
Yakuzza Lethecus: how memory´s and associations are getting stronger like when you mention the MET to think of new york and having other associations about NY and the ppl i hear visited it
Lucinda Lavender: my assemblages...collages of experience
Yakuzza Lethecus: it´s interesting to follow the thoughts, most of the associations are of course crap and don´t make sence verbalizing
Yakuzza Lethecus: still i think that´s still a function which makes our memories better
Lucinda Lavender: :)))
Yakuzza Lethecus: *sense
Lucinda Lavender: memory is something I struggle with sometimes...
Lucinda Lavender: Hi Rhi:)
Rhiannon Dragoone: Sometimes I forget memory
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey rhi
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi Lucinda
Lucinda Lavender: like today I could not think of a certain word...tho I know it is in my head
Rhiannon Dragoone: Oh, don't you just hate it when that happens?
Lucinda Lavender: it is the word for underwear...but fancier
Yakuzza Lethecus: i often wonder in how far i learned to be bad in the things that i know i am :)
Rhiannon Dragoone: And then after that, it is burned into your memory
Rhiannon Dragoone: lingerie
Lucinda Lavender: lingerie I remembered
Lucinda Lavender: right:)
Rhiannon Dragoone: It's for fancy underwear. :)
Lucinda Lavender: rearely use the word
Lucinda Lavender: :)rarely
Lucinda Lavender: and so back to discussing illusion...
Lucinda Lavender: the illusion about ourselves...
Rhiannon Dragoone: What about illusions?
Lucinda Lavender: I think...our learnings that cause a smaller picture of who we can be perhaps?
Rhiannon Dragoone: Well, only if we let them--if we distory, delete, and generalize
Rhiannon Dragoone: *distort
Lucinda Lavender: having the integrity to tell the truth seem a real issue in our time
Lucinda Lavender: real
Rhiannon Dragoone: In all times; telling the truth takes courage and self esteem
Lucinda Lavender: yes:)
Yakuzza Lethecus: i wonder on which level of our society it becomes an issue
Lucinda Lavender: to be curious about how things are appearing..
Lucinda Lavender: well in the political realm for one...
Yakuzza Lethecus: well we have the 3rd or the 4th drop of nuklear energy right now
Yakuzza Lethecus: this time it might really be a drop out of it :P
Rhiannon Dragoone: Hi iwandertoo!
Yakuzza Lethecus: hello susan
Rhiannon Dragoone: Hi Susan!
Lucinda Lavender: HI Susan!
Lucinda Lavender: ok:)
Rhiannon Dragoone: I've been there, Susan
Lucinda Lavender: me too:)
Lucinda Lavender: at a Starbuck the other day
Rhiannon Dragoone: You're facing the group and within chat distance, so you're fine
Rhiannon Dragoone: I like Starbucks; but Dutch Brothers is better
Lucinda Lavender: can you say more about the neuclear issue Yaku?
Lucinda Lavender: nuclear
Rhiannon Dragoone: Heh. If I had that position, Susan, it would look like I'm hiding
Yakuzza Lethecus: germany is just leaving nuklear energy as the only country in europe
Lucinda Lavender: yes...I have heard so:)
Lucinda Lavender: how do you feel about that?
Yakuzza Lethecus: 7 plant´s are down since fukushima and other country´s like france of course don´t think about leaving it, well we are doing it alone and the wind comes from west to north west :P
--BELL--
Yakuzza Lethecus: so the party that was always keeping nuklear energy alive now dropped it, well they are moving with the masses, the insecurity was always known, well not a pabish subject, just one of the political confusions, since it´s only a symbolic sign and costs a lot
Yakuzza Lethecus: no pabish subject
Yakuzza Lethecus: i rarely think of pabish subjects except thinking of "how much do i really need"
Yakuzza Lethecus: i can flip myself to ,,being happy", i drag myself into negativity as soon as i think about performing well, skills...
Rhiannon Dragoone: Positive energy makes a big difference, Yaku
Yakuzza Lethecus: well, faith,trust and hope
Lucinda Lavender: I erase sometimes
Lucinda Lavender: I have those thoughts of negativity and have been learning over the years to listen to intuition about what may be evolving out of the present moment which talkes a different path ...
Rhiannon Dragoone: Yes, at every moment, there is both positive and negative things; like the economy; in the 30's, during the Great Depression, the death rate actually went down. To make ends meet, people were eting ot less and eating healthier (cheaper) foods.
Yakuzza Lethecus looks at the piece of chocolate in front of him
Lucinda Lavender: but here in NYC ai have thought so much about how we are usuing the energy now for cooling the city...our consumption levels are a thing that are scary sometimes......
Yakuzza Lethecus: per citizen in the united states it´s about twice than what we use here in europe
Lucinda Lavender: nodding...
Yakuzza Lethecus: still we haven´t those distances and climatic environments
Lucinda Lavender: true...
Yakuzza Lethecus: i guess we are only comparable with like pensilvanya
Lucinda Lavender: not sure what to say about our world...
Lucinda Lavender: an amazing construction...
Yakuzza Lethecus: i often wonder about economics, distribution of ressources, justice, egalitarianism and alike and in the end i feel the need to see my thoughts moving in order not to get stuck in the things that i don´t understand
Yakuzza Lethecus: to preserve positive tention
Lucinda Lavender: yes...know what you mean...
Rhiannon Dragoone nods at Yak
--BELL--
Yakuzza Lethecus: interesting with pab is that it´s the only community i know that is actually related to view thoughts within my accessibility, there might be ppl here in the town but i´ve just never heard about it
Yakuzza Lethecus: an actual community which talks about appearances and perceptions
Yakuzza Lethecus: on any level
Lucinda Lavender: It seems like a fertile line of curiousity..
Lucinda Lavender: maybe you could post a note in a library and see who would show up...
Yakuzza Lethecus: they wouldn´t be too amazed when i sti around quietly :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: i do or did that already in a rl phil class, this semester i am not there, but i used to go
Lucinda Lavender: quietness can be a very rich experience
Lucinda Lavender: seems like an interesting experiment...
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye susan
Lucinda Lavender: bye for now Susan!
Rhiannon Dragoone: bye Susan!
Lucinda Lavender: Imagining planting seeds of awareness that does not get stuck:)
Lucinda Lavender: I have a plan today so best be on my way...out into the world of brick and cement and people I do not know but look a lot like people I know:)
Yakuzza Lethecus: :)
Lucinda Lavender: carry on:)
Yakuzza Lethecus: enjoy the rest of ur trip
Rhiannon Dragoone: tc, Lucinda
Lucinda Lavender: thanks so much:)
Rhiannon Dragoone: Nice gown btw
Lucinda Lavender: :) had a little shopping trip:)
Rhiannon Dragoone: It's beautiful
Lucinda Lavender: to get fancied up for the trip:)
Lucinda Lavender: I like how it moves
Lucinda Lavender: bye for now:)
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye luci :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: and ur dsl works fine now ?
Rhiannon Dragoone: Oh, didn't you notice that I walked in?
Rhiannon Dragoone: It's working great.
Yakuzza Lethecus: not until you spoke
Yakuzza Lethecus: how much do you get ?
Rhiannon Dragoone: You know how to make a girl feel special, yaku. lol
Yakuzza Lethecus: hehe, didn´t have the radar open
Rhiannon Dragoone: ten megs; the speed is nice, not the fastest but reliable
Yakuzza Lethecus: still 14 times more then what i used to have
Rhiannon Dragoone: I'm always interested in what people notice in sl; a lot notice me visually and a lot don't notice until I open m mouth
Yakuzza Lethecus: and double what i have and your´s isn´t a shared medium
Rhiannon Dragoone: yeah, upload and download speeds are only 1.7 and .89, but work well
Rhiannon Dragoone: Hi Zen
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey zen
Zen Arado: Hi Rhia , Yaku :)
--BELL--
Zen Arado: isn't it time for Sun's building class?
Yakuzza Lethecus: hello aya
Yakuzza Lethecus: have you been here before ?
Zen Arado: Hi Aya
Zen Arado: yes she has
Rhiannon Dragoone: Hi Ava!
aislay Resident: Hi Yaku
Rhiannon Dragoone: Aya
aislay Resident: Hi Rhiannon
aislay Resident: Yhanks Rhi
Rhiannon Dragoone: ur welcome
Yakuzza Lethecus: what´s been said around the circle will be logged and published aya, i don´t know if you´ve been here before, i am only sure that ur longer in secondlife since ur using the firestorm beta client
Yakuzza Lethecus: even tho ur av is 2 days old
aislay Resident: Well spotted Yaku ;)
Rhiannon Dragoone: Why bother? I've always wondered about people who are paranoid over alts.
aislay Resident: I'm actually Kodo, I'm setting up an avi for a friend
Zen Arado: how do you mean Rhi?
Yakuzza Lethecus: have you been here before ?
aislay Resident: As Kodo yes
Rhiannon Dragoone: Well, I go to a couple of sims where they engage in alt spotting, and are always paranoid that someone they don't know is someone they do know and don't like
Yakuzza Lethecus: good
aislay Resident: lol
Zen Arado: ah yes
aislay Resident: Must be an interesting atmosphere Rhi
Yakuzza Lethecus: well, of course i also recall for example the discussion if ur starling and alike
Rhiannon Dragoone: It's wierd, and yeah, interesting
Zen Arado: shows how we kinda categorize people yes?
aislay Resident: Dont htink I'd fit in there
Yakuzza Lethecus: and the bannings, actually it brings up a lot of thought about the immersiveness in secondlife
Rhiannon Dragoone: Yaku, oh, yeah; and my alt, Scott/starling who i made *just* for those people
Rhiannon Dragoone: They ran when he'd show up
Zen Arado: put people in a box od baddies and goodies
Yakuzza Lethecus: scottstarling quintett or something
Rhiannon Dragoone: Quartet; handsome devil
Rhiannon Dragoone: Was almost tempted to go to bed with him.
Rhiannon Dragoone: lol.
Rhiannon Dragoone: Now, what would Freud make of that?
Zen Arado: well if you made him he is what you like :)
aislay Resident cocks ear ;)
Zen Arado: I have problems like that with my alt
Rhiannon Dragoone: true, but h wasn't custom made; bought him at a store for male avatars
Zen Arado: ah ok
Rhiannon Dragoone: oh, Zen? you want to hae sex with her?
Zen Arado: no
Rhiannon Dragoone: I mean, he looks just like this other handsome devil, mykos.
aislay Resident: You havent tried then Zen?
Zen Arado: but find her strangely attractive
Rhiannon Dragoone: Who you may hae met, too.
Zen Arado: no
aislay Resident: It migh tcook your processor with two viewers going at it full steam ;)
Zen Arado: she kinda had some resonant characteristics of deep within me
Zen Arado: hard to explain
aislay Resident: You can be your anima and animus in perfect harmony
aislay Resident: bliss :)
Rhiannon Dragoone: yes, one of the things SL allows you to do
Zen Arado: I was telling Miralee of an experience I had with her
Rhiannon Dragoone: hey, I've gotta log
aislay Resident: ok
Zen Arado: ok
Rhiannon Dragoone: Zen, i want to hear more.
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye rhi
Rhiannon Dragoone: So I'll ask you about your animus/anima some time
Zen Arado: but you are going now?
Zen Arado: ok np
Rhiannon Dragoone: yeah, rl calls
Zen Arado: :)
Zen Arado: bye
aislay Resident: ok bye then from Aya too
Zen Arado: and Jan :)
Zen Arado: Rhia is a philosopher Aya
aislay Resident: I know about her
Zen Arado: she teaches philosophy
Zen Arado: ok
aislay Resident: She goes about naked
Zen Arado: didn't know you knew
Yakuzza Lethecus needs an injection of math and logic :P
aislay Resident: I think you might have told me
Zen Arado: well that is the other thing about her
Zen Arado: :)
Zen Arado is trying to give them up :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hehe :)
Zen Arado: came here to do building with Sun
aislay Resident: Keep trying :P
Zen Arado: but she hasn't shown up
Yakuzza Lethecus: well that´s another concern i have, we always problematize things that we don´t actually have in our possession
Zen Arado: didn't see a cancellation
aislay Resident: Maybe she forgot
Zen Arado: yeh
Zen Arado: checks calendar
aislay Resident: Im having troubel getting a gif to Aya
aislay Resident: gift
aislay Resident: hmm
Zen Arado: yeh it's there
--BELL--
Zen Arado: 08.00 Prim workshop
Yakuzza Lethecus: i am about to leave
Yakuzza Lethecus: take care the two of you
Zen Arado: k Yaku
Zen Arado: bye
aislay Resident: trying to get glasses for aya
Zen Arado: want me to rez Jan?
aislay Resident: why not
aislay Resident: might be fun
Zen Arado: see if there'sanythg I can give you
aislay Resident: we could go somewhere as the girls
aislay Resident: see what happens