2011.06.12 01:00 - Will the rain help Berlusconi?

Eliza posted this session..

[01:15] Wol Euler: buongiorno, qt
[01:15] Qt Core: buongiorno :-)
[01:16] Wol Euler: how's italy this morning?
[01:16] Qt Core: sunny, after a couple week of rain and thunderstorms
[01:16] Wol Euler: heh, same here
[01:17] Qt Core: but if there was a day in need of rain it would be today, we have to vote for 4 national poll (and some city have local polls too)
[01:17] Wol Euler: will the rain help Berlusconi?
[01:17] Qt Core: no, the sun will
[01:18] Wol Euler: pity :)

[01:20] Qt Core: the poll are against privatization of water, nuclear and the right of top level state figures to not to go to in fromt of judges as they have state things to do in choosen days
[01:20] Qt Core: guess what is the one mr B. is most worried about
[01:20] Wol Euler: heheheh
[01:20] Wol Euler: but surely he owns the judges too?
[01:20] Wol Euler: sorry, too cynical
[01:21] Qt Core: nooo, all the judges are communist and have an agenda specifically agains him (he call them red togas)
[01:21] Wol Euler: good :)
[01:21] Wol Euler: I'm glad to hear they are still independent
[01:22] Qt Core: that's why there is an impeding justice reform in his agenda
[01:23] Wol Euler: and a majority of people actually vote for him? hard to understand
[01:24] Qt Core: for him or one of his ally
[01:25] Qt Core: they are quite good, one was the descendant from fascist party and the other main gol is "let the south die, keep our money here in the north"
[01:25] Wol Euler: charming.
[01:27] Qt Core: some of them left him a few months ago so he went around the parliament "buying" a mp here and a mp there... ant those formed an organization that called itselv "the responsible"
[01:28] Qt Core: now there is some confusion as he created to few new roles for them ;-)
[01:28] Qt Core: hi Yaku!
[01:28] Wol Euler: hello yaku
[01:29] Qt Core: (it would be funny if only my country future wasn't the thing they play with)
[01:31] Wol Euler: agreed
[01:32] Qt Core: but maybe the tide is changing, mr B. lost quite badly past weeks administrative election (like losing Milan major after 20 years)
[01:32] Wol Euler: well, I hope that it goes well
[01:35] Wol Euler: yaku, you are quiet today
[01:35] Qt Core: ok, something hap[pier than italian politics now ?
[01:35] Wol Euler: :)
[01:36] Yakuzza Lethecus: well, i was actually wondering if he might try it again when he´s loosing his position once more
[01:36] Yakuzza Lethecus: he only falls to come back usually
[01:37] Yakuzza Lethecus: but even he has to consider his age :P
[01:37] Qt Core: he seems to think about not running anymore for PM (shudder at the idea of him being republic president
[01:37] Qt Core: ... and a puppet as PM ;-)
[01:37] Wol Euler: o.O
[01:44] Qt Core: you know, several newspapers/commentators said we should take a hint from what northern africa middle eastern countries did/do these days
[01:44] Wol Euler grins.
[01:46] Wol Euler: mind you, they had no alternative. There are no meaningful elections in those countries, if any at all
[01:47] Qt Core: yes, and probably it would be less cruent if ever

[01:47] Yakuzza Lethecus: and i still wonder about artifical democraty vs grown lived structures

[01:48] Wol Euler: for example?
[01:48] Yakuzza Lethecus: i mean like in egypt, now they got rid of mubarak but now they have the forces united before in seperate factions
[01:49] Yakuzza Lethecus: well, i don´t know enough but these questions are circling my head
[01:49] Wol Euler nods.
[01:50] Wol Euler: egypt in particular seems only to have gone halfway
[01:50] Wol Euler: the head was cut off but the body doesn'T seem to have changed much
[01:53] Qt Core: complete overhaul is hard and with many chance of failing (thinking about italy from 1943 to 1948, in the end we even kept many of the previous laws)

[01:54] Wol Euler: on the other hand, we have a surprise event today, in ten hours!
[01:54] Wol Euler nods.
[01:54] Qt Core: don't know if i will be there, i don't even toke a reservation ;-)
[01:55] Wol Euler: well, I'm sure somebody will tell you about it aftewards
[01:55] Yakuzza Lethecus: any info on that event ?
[01:55] Wol Euler: it's all still secret
[01:56] Qt Core: knowing Bleu it would be artsy ;-)
[01:56] Wol Euler: other than that we meet here at 11:30
[01:56] Wol Euler: yep
[01:56] Wol Euler: (I think it's here?)
[01:56] Yakuzza Lethecus: ya
[01:56] Qt Core: just an hour ago i wondered... a mistery marriage ?
[01:56] Wol Euler: woooo
[01:57] Wol Euler: I wonder who?
[01:59] Qt Core: i wonder why ;-)
[01:59] Wol Euler: :)
[02:13] Yakuzza Lethecus: is there pfingsten in italy ?
[02:14] Yakuzza Lethecus: or a vacationday tomorrow for pentecoste
[02:14] Qt Core: i recently got there: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...52310025.shtml , i really was amazed/shoked by last paragraph
[02:14] Qt Core: no there is not
[02:15] Wol Euler: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentecoste
[02:16] Qt Core: there are trasditions and some feast, obviously but there are no holidays for it
[02:16] Wol Euler: ah, I see
[02:17] Qt Core: still i'm not go to the office tomorrow ;-)
[02:18] Wol Euler: well, that counts.
[02:18] Qt Core: ok, rl calling, bye all and have a funny but relaxing day
[02:18] Wol Euler: bye qt, enjoy the day
[02:22] Yakuzza Lethecus: bye qt (for the log)
[02:22] Yakuzza Lethecus: well i also got to go
[02:22] Wol Euler smiles.
[02:22] Wol Euler: bye yaku, enjoy the day
[02:22] Wol Euler: see you at noon!
[02:22] Wol Euler: or just before
[02:22] Yakuzza Lethecus: cya then :)