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2011.05.06 01:00 - The active form of well-ness
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No headersWol Euler was guardian for this session.
Barcalona Rhapsody: i see
Wol Euler: good morning, barca
Barcalona Rhapsody: you was invisable
Barcalona Rhapsody: thnx
Wol Euler: sorry :)
Wol Euler: how are you?
Barcalona Rhapsody: i am ok
Barcalona Rhapsody: i have a holiday today
Wol Euler: ah! nice
Wol Euler: what's the occasion?
Barcalona Rhapsody: and u ?
Barcalona Rhapsody: yesterday was freedomsday in netherlands
Wol Euler: ah.
Barcalona Rhapsody: and this day is the offices closed
Barcalona Rhapsody: so its a free day that is not free
Barcalona Rhapsody: we are obliged to take this day off
Wol Euler: heh
Barcalona Rhapsody: it saves energy for the office
Wol Euler: still, you might say that you get a four-day weekend!
Barcalona Rhapsody: sure
Barcalona Rhapsody: i like it
Barcalona Rhapsody: now i can talk here
Barcalona Rhapsody: in my pyamas
Wol Euler grins.
Barcalona Rhapsody: it is 10.08 am here
Barcalona Rhapsody: i am on the coffee
Wol Euler smiles and nods
Barcalona Rhapsody: and u ?
Wol Euler: I got dressed about ten minutes ago, after breakfast
Wol Euler: 10:09 am, coffee here too
Barcalona Rhapsody: i just brushed my teeths
Barcalona Rhapsody: i spoke to sorm Nordwind this morning early
Barcalona Rhapsody: at about 7.00 o clock
Barcalona Rhapsody: storm
Barcalona Rhapsody: i had a dream
Wol Euler listens.
Barcalona Rhapsody: i wanted to tell him
Barcalona Rhapsody: just before he went to sleep
Barcalona Rhapsody: i have a new idea for PaB
Wol Euler: oh?
Barcalona Rhapsody: why not calling it PaWB ?
Barcalona Rhapsody: WB for Well-Being
Barcalona Rhapsody: and i like to see a museum for divine Design
Barcalona Rhapsody: or in the museum for sacred art
Barcalona Rhapsody: see: www.aldobakker.com
Wol Euler: interesting ideas
Barcalona Rhapsody: he is design teacher for well-being
Barcalona Rhapsody: and he takes japanese craftmanship into his designs
Barcalona Rhapsody: and now u can take it into the log of this discussion
Barcalona Rhapsody: and Storm said we first have to work it out in a workshope here
Barcalona Rhapsody: workshop
Wol Euler: Meep Meep ;P :p:P :p :P
Wol Euler: oops, sorry
Wol Euler: that should have been a nod :)
Wol Euler: mistyped my gesture
Barcalona Rhapsody: but it all has to do with time experience
--BELL--
Barcalona Rhapsody: thats what pema is looking for i thought
Barcalona Rhapsody: i saw u was one of the first ppl in PaB ?
Barcalona Rhapsody: on that screen
Wol Euler: well, that's a matter of perspective :)
Barcalona Rhapsody: ok
Wol Euler: PaB was already pretty well established when I joined, there were maybe 25 or 30 guardians already
Barcalona Rhapsody: maybe i have to change perspective
Wol Euler: but I have been here longer than most
Barcalona Rhapsody: ok
Barcalona Rhapsody: i am not even a guardian
Wol Euler: some of those original 2 dozen have dropped out since then, as always happens with groups, but most remain
Wol Euler: what does "well being" mean to you?
Barcalona Rhapsody: well thats all to me
Barcalona Rhapsody: its the active form of well-ness
Barcalona Rhapsody: well-ness
Barcalona Rhapsody: and its what makes me and u happy
Barcalona Rhapsody: not lucky
Barcalona Rhapsody: but happy
Barcalona Rhapsody: we can work on our own happiness
Barcalona Rhapsody: by talking a bit here
Barcalona Rhapsody: and feel that we are listend to
Wol Euler nods.
Barcalona Rhapsody: listened i mean
Barcalona Rhapsody: not listed
Barcalona Rhapsody: or even listed
Barcalona Rhapsody: doesnot matter anymore
Barcalona Rhapsody: logged
Barcalona Rhapsody: when happy is not bad
Barcalona Rhapsody: share happines doubles happiness
Wol Euler nods.
Barcalona Rhapsody: share worse makes it smaller
Wol Euler: right
Barcalona Rhapsody: so its also well-being here
Wol Euler: so you are saying that we should recognize what we have, change the name to reflect that fact?
Barcalona Rhapsody: sure
Barcalona Rhapsody: maybe thats possible
Barcalona Rhapsody: ?
Wol Euler: I don't know.
Barcalona Rhapsody: but not necesairy
Wol Euler: well-being in English has a particular flavour which "being"does not
Barcalona Rhapsody: its nore that i think that sacred art is more than buildings
Wol Euler: it's associated with the health-food movement, and with regular exercise in fresh air :)
Barcalona Rhapsody: so ?
Barcalona Rhapsody: thats not bad i think ?
Barcalona Rhapsody: its also a form of retreat
Barcalona Rhapsody: like we have here
Wol Euler: so that is perhaps a little too specific for the general philosophical "Being" that Pema had in mind
Barcalona Rhapsody: and holiday
Barcalona Rhapsody: maybe
Barcalona Rhapsody: sure
Barcalona Rhapsody: Being is broader
Wol Euler: I don't know. I agree with Storm that we should have a workshop to discuss what that means
Wol Euler: that's the best way to discuss it, I think
Barcalona Rhapsody: i think so too
Barcalona Rhapsody: or a special in the sacred art museum
Wol Euler: or that :)
Barcalona Rhapsody: there was a special of barcelona too
Barcalona Rhapsody: so why not about dutch design ?
Barcalona Rhapsody: who is the curator of that museum ?
Wol Euler: Adams Rubble
Barcalona Rhapsody: now there is a special about california
Barcalona Rhapsody: i saw
Barcalona Rhapsody: maybe i have to ask adams
Wol Euler: but I'm confused now. What does Aldo Bakker have to do with renaming PaB?
Barcalona Rhapsody: ok
Barcalona Rhapsody: he is a design teacher for well-being
Barcalona Rhapsody: and he makes timeless objects
Barcalona Rhapsody: with japanes craftmanship
Barcalona Rhapsody: so that could be fitting here
Barcalona Rhapsody: first in the sacred art museum
--BELL--
Barcalona Rhapsody: not only architecture but also design
Barcalona Rhapsody: maybe
Wol Euler: sure, I have no problem with displaying his work at the museum, that seems fine.
Wol Euler: but what does that have to do with PaB?
Wol Euler: the sacred art museum is not PaB
Barcalona Rhapsody: oh ?
Wol Euler: no
Barcalona Rhapsody: ok
Barcalona Rhapsody: i didnt know that
Wol Euler: ah :)
Wol Euler: no, it's just a museum.
Barcalona Rhapsody: i thought it was a part of paB
Barcalona Rhapsody: like all the buildings here
Wol Euler: it grew out of PaB, sure, from discussions here, and created by Storm and Adams
Wol Euler: but it has its own life independent of us
Barcalona Rhapsody: thats nice
Barcalona Rhapsody: all the objects of Aldo Bakker have their own independence too
Barcalona Rhapsody: but are also part of a family
Wol Euler nods.
Dash Earthboy: hey Sophia
Wol Euler: hello dash
Barcalona Rhapsody: hi dash and sophia
Dash Earthboy: hey y'all
Wol Euler smiles.
Barcalona Rhapsody: yeah
Barcalona Rhapsody: looking for some well-being
Wol Euler: aren't we all, always? :)
Dash Earthboy: i see there's a few butterflies around here
Barcalona Rhapsody: oh
Wol Euler: yeah
Dash Earthboy: cool
Barcalona Rhapsody: i didnt see them yet
Wol Euler: you must have particles turned off in graphics preferences
Dash Earthboy: i'm just happy to be here
Dash Earthboy: not playing nobody
Barcalona Rhapsody: ok
Barcalona Rhapsody: me too
Barcalona Rhapsody: just myself
Wol Euler smiles.
Dash Earthboy: i'm showing on my screen as a cloud
Dash Earthboy: do I appear ok to y'all?
Wol Euler: rebake, perhaps? ctrl-alt-r
Barcalona Rhapsody: u lok great
Wol Euler: you look ruthed to me, as in that photo
Barcalona Rhapsody: look
Barcalona Rhapsody: great
Dash Earthboy: i re-configured my laptop just before going 70 miles away to a job interview yesterday
Wol Euler: oh, good luck.
Dash Earthboy: my son fronted me the gas money and let me stay with him Wed night
Wol Euler: I hope that works out!
Dash Earthboy: so I tweaked the wireless there at his place w/3M download speeds!
Wol Euler: :)
Barcalona Rhapsody: ok
Dash Earthboy: i'm back at my 650 kps home
Wol Euler smiles and nods
Barcalona Rhapsody: that is nice
Dash Earthboy: the interview was kind grueling...for government job at juvenile detention center
Barcalona Rhapsody: what time is it with u ?
Dash Earthboy: here at the house it nearly 4:45 AM
Barcalona Rhapsody: here is 10.42 am
Wol Euler: you're up early, or very late
Dash Earthboy: early
Barcalona Rhapsody: so u are early bird
Dash Earthboy: did not get good sleep at son's although they really did everything right
Barcalona Rhapsody: did u sleep well ?
Wol Euler: nervous about the job, perhaps
Barcalona Rhapsody: oh
Dash Earthboy: i'm mostly a nightowl to start with, making it good for me in music/technology work
Dash Earthboy: but not good for regular banker's hours jobs
Barcalona Rhapsody: well i have a gorvernment job
Wol Euler nods.
Barcalona Rhapsody: making it good
Dash Earthboy: yes Wol nervous about the job for sure
Barcalona Rhapsody: i am almost retiring
Dash Earthboy: what's your job like Barcalona?
Barcalona Rhapsody: so no nervous here
Barcalona Rhapsody: ict-consultanat
Dash Earthboy: ict?
Barcalona Rhapsody: at ministry of education
--BELL--
Sunshine Vayandar: hi Wol, Dash, Sharon ;)
Dash Earthboy: hi Sunshine!
Barcalona Rhapsody: information ans communication technology
Barcalona Rhapsody: and
Dash Earthboy: cool!
Barcalona Rhapsody: yeah
Wol Euler: hello sun
Wol Euler: oops
Barcalona Rhapsody: but after 30 years
Barcalona Rhapsody: its not so cool anymore
Dash Earthboy: aww
Dash Earthboy: i still like helping people use the technology better
Barcalona Rhapsody: sure
Dash Earthboy: especially for communications & education
Barcalona Rhapsody: thats social
Barcalona Rhapsody: hi sun
Sunshine Vayandar: hi Wol, Barca ;)
Barcalona Rhapsody: i have a sun rise here
Dash Earthboy: i've been at it for 25 years
Wol Euler smiles.
Dash Earthboy: 'sup Sun?
Barcalona Rhapsody: now all ict is in the cloud
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Dash Earthboy: cloud is great for connected people...not so much for poorer 3rd worlders
Barcalona Rhapsody: so helping with using is still a good job
Barcalona Rhapsody: but in ten years Africa is a majority
Dash Earthboy: i'm real fascinated by the outreach in Brazil and discuss that with friends there
Barcalona Rhapsody: and not a 3rd country
Dash Earthboy: they live in Rio
Barcalona Rhapsody: sure
Dash Earthboy: still remote places in Brazil to reach out to
Barcalona Rhapsody: good work man !
Dash Earthboy: yah but Portuguese is hard!
Sunshine Vayandar: ty Barca ;)
Barcalona Rhapsody: plesure is mine
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Barcalona Rhapsody: so thats also well-being
Barcalona Rhapsody: helping 3rd world ppl with use of ict
Dash Earthboy: so I just installed Imprudence in this 64-bit ver of Ubuntu 11 and thought I'd visit my fav SL site
Wol Euler smiles.
Barcalona Rhapsody: why do u smile Wol ?
Wol Euler: at dash's comment
Barcalona Rhapsody: ok
Dash Earthboy: i haven't been on SL so much last couple months
Dash Earthboy: this is one place I still feel good about
Barcalona Rhapsody: me too
Wol Euler: well, I'm glad of that, but sorry that the rest of SL is disappointing you
Dash Earthboy: oh that's ok Wol
Dash Earthboy: it's a big world :)
Barcalona Rhapsody: that is after the hype
Barcalona Rhapsody: there remains a usefull small part
Barcalona Rhapsody: and PaB is such a usefull part of SL
Barcalona Rhapsody: i think
Dash Earthboy: yes!
Sunshine Vayandar: PaB is great ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: but one can do lots of great things in SL I think
Wol Euler: definitely
Dash Earthboy: i've rebaked several times and still am in a fog :(
Sunshine Vayandar: I see you Dash
Sunshine Vayandar: I don't see Barca
Wol Euler: heheheh
Dash Earthboy: i see Barca & you and Wol
Dash Earthboy: So what did everyone do for Cinqo de Mayo?
Barcalona Rhapsody: 5 may we had freedom day
Wol Euler: stayed home, dozed, played in WoW and SL
Sunshine Vayandar: what happens on Cinqo de Mayo?
Dash Earthboy: any reason to party Barca!
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Barcalona Rhapsody: yes
Barcalona Rhapsody: but just stayed at home
Dash Earthboy: i had a grueling interview and got lost on the way home myself
Dash Earthboy: developed a migraine and ended up taking to bed at 7 PM
Barcalona Rhapsody: ok
Barcalona Rhapsody: that was your cinco the mayo ?
Dash Earthboy: yep
Barcalona Rhapsody: now its 6 may
Dash Earthboy: yep
Barcalona Rhapsody: and you may have time to sleep
Dash Earthboy: well, i'm trying to make up for lost time now...hate being sick y'know?
--BELL--
Dash Earthboy: the cooling off of the weather has helped some
Dash Earthboy: you leaving Sunshine?
Barcalona Rhapsody: ok its getting waremer here
Barcalona Rhapsody: warmer
Sunshine Vayandar: no was just looking for the source of the butterflies
Dash Earthboy: we've had many 80+F days
Dash Earthboy: i'm glad to save the energy costs from the a/c to keep inside down to 78F
Dash Earthboy: it's 55F here now
Dash Earthboy: 62F inside
Dash Earthboy: i may burn some junk mail in the fireplace to warm it a little
Barcalona Rhapsody: ah
Sunshine Vayandar: it's winter here in south africa
Barcalona Rhapsody: its about 20 degrees celcius here
Barcalona Rhapsody: in Holland
Dash Earthboy: i've stopped processing the deadfall
Barcalona Rhapsody: ok
Barcalona Rhapsody: when do u start the live grow
Dash Earthboy: yah Sun, ain't it great to have such different weather around this globe?
Sunshine Vayandar: but today is about 15-20 degrees
Sunshine Vayandar: it's only cold at night
Dash Earthboy: Barca, I only burn deadfall and junk mail in my fireplace
Barcalona Rhapsody: ok
Dash Earthboy: lots of deadfall has been coming down now in our terrible storms
Barcalona Rhapsody: oh
Dash Earthboy: but it's been too warm to use
Barcalona Rhapsody: i see
Dash Earthboy: and too wet as well
Dash Earthboy: we got flowers up and farmers are growing/harvesting already!
Dash Earthboy: bees and everything have been very busy
Dash Earthboy: i expect my blackberries will be in at least a month early
Wol Euler: wow
Dash Earthboy: yes, the early warmth has done a number on us...then the storms try to ruin it all
Dash Earthboy: so much death & destruction here lately
Wol Euler nods.
Barcalona Rhapsody: ok i see
Dash Earthboy: at least where I am the worst stuff seems to go around rather than hit us right on
Barcalona Rhapsody: sounds heavy
Dash Earthboy: i've tried to choose location wisely for decades
Wol Euler: those storms last week were terrible
Dash Earthboy: yah
Wol Euler: (USA)
Wol Euler: tornado warnings for nearly a third of the country
Dash Earthboy: yah
Barcalona Rhapsody: yah
Barcalona Rhapsody: thats different wind than Storm nordwind
Dash Earthboy: and now the Army Corps of Engineers is releasing water onto good crop land
Barcalona Rhapsody: thants real storm
Dash Earthboy: to avoid flooding cities like New Orleans
Barcalona Rhapsody: so its realy sisky
Barcalona Rhapsody: risky
Dash Earthboy: pretty serious stuff we're dealing with
Barcalona Rhapsody: that must be so
A little light editing as requested.
Barcalona Rhapsody: strip tha last sentences out of log
Wol Euler: ok
Barcalona Rhapsody: tnx
Sunshine Vayandar: byebyeee all have to go again
Wol Euler: bye sun, take care
Alfred Kelberry: wuff!
Dash Earthboy: bye Sunshine
Sunshine Vayandar: have a great weekend
Dash Earthboy: hi Alf
Sunshine Vayandar: hi Wuffy ;)
Wol Euler: hello boxdog
Alfred Kelberry: butterfly removal team is on sight! :)
Barcalona Rhapsody: me heve to go too
Alfred Kelberry: hi :)
Wol Euler: bye barca, enjoy your day off
Barcalona Rhapsody: bye all
Alfred Kelberry: *purrs*
Wol Euler: a purring dog, what next?
Alfred Kelberry: ah, good timing :)
Wol Euler: must be genetically modified
Alfred Kelberry: everyone leaves
--BELL--
Alfred Kelberry: it's reaction on the nose clicking
Dash Earthboy: oh alf, you would have enjoyed my son's place...two cute kitties to play with
Dash Earthboy: lots of hair ;)
Dash Earthboy: he warned me to keep my interview clothes away until the last minute before heading for it yesterday
Wol Euler grins.
Dash Earthboy: been awhile since I wore a tie, let alone suit jacket
Wol Euler: I hope it works out, Dash.
Alfred Kelberry: how did it go, dash?
Dash Earthboy: thanks
Dash Earthboy: well, i'm afraid I didn't make a great impression
Dash Earthboy: i'm putting it all in my memoirs of course for the details
Alfred Kelberry: wrong tie color?
Alfred Kelberry: memoirs :)
Alfred Kelberry: when is it time for memoirs?
Dash Earthboy: but how about, within 5 minutes of sitting down to fill out paperwork, discovering ink or grease streaks on my hands
Alfred Kelberry: ouch
Dash Earthboy: and nobody could find the source
Dash Earthboy: so i tried to wash it off but still have some residue even now
Wol Euler: odd
Alfred Kelberry: *peeks at woly's garters*
Wol Euler: :-PPPPPP
Alfred Kelberry: ah, i hope it's at least a nice pattern, dash :)
Dash Earthboy: and then I come out of the bathroom and they push up the interview almost an hour early before I'm done with the paperwork
Dash Earthboy: and that's just how it started!
Wol Euler: :(
Alfred Kelberry: it makes a good story though :)
Dash Earthboy: then there's the extremely loud banging noise when they unlock the doors to let people in/out
Dash Earthboy: it will make a good story, I believe
Alfred Kelberry: when everyone goes as planned, memoirs turn out boring :)
Dash Earthboy: i've continued to say: I can't make this stuff up...truth is stranger than fiction for me
Alfred Kelberry: um, everything :)
Alfred Kelberry: the door bang awareness
Dash Earthboy: ah, that's another thing Alf...couldn't go as planned :(
Alfred Kelberry: this is the title for you :)
Wol Euler: :)
Dash Earthboy: my son doesn't have any coffee...so no morning constitutional before leaving
Dash Earthboy: let alone being difficult to wake up then and make a good showing
Alfred Kelberry: how old is he?
Wol Euler smiles.
Dash Earthboy: so I hope I'll do okay, maybe get the job...but I was only male interviewing that I saw
Wol Euler: interesting.
Dash Earthboy: my son? he's a recent graduate w/engineering degree at 22
Dash Earthboy: and his first real job, he makes what I made at my best job in this area after years of experience ;)
Wol Euler: lucky
Wol Euler: and/or inflation :)
Alfred Kelberry: neat :)
Dash Earthboy: he is smarter than me I know, and I'm in Mensa, but it doesn't show in his schoolwork
Dash Earthboy: or lifestyle
Dash Earthboy: he follows his mother's brand-centric, high-maintenance lifestyle
Wol Euler: heh
Wol Euler: just as well he has a high-paying job, then
Dash Earthboy: like the 3M wireless service
Dash Earthboy: yes, for sure Wol
Dash Earthboy: by his age I had invested in land and made payments for 3 years already
Dash Earthboy: and not got into debt by working to pay for my full class load
Wol Euler: different generation ...
Dash Earthboy: but he'll make enough his first year he could pay off what he owes his mother
Dash Earthboy: on top of what he owes the state now
Dash Earthboy: but he's got a new car...an HSR? HRS? something like that
Dash Earthboy: yah Wol, but it's funny how much influence I have had...he does have similar tastes in furnishings to live with
--BELL--
Wol Euler smiles.
Dash Earthboy: and he has liked much of what I liked at his age
Dash Earthboy: but he sets himself apart (since he looks like my twin at that age) by getting himself all tattooed
Dash Earthboy: at least he didn't get too much pierced besides his ears :)
Dash Earthboy: hey it has been good catching up w/y'all
Wol Euler: likewise dash, nice to see you again
Dash Earthboy: good to see you Alf and Wol you seem to be in a good place today too
Wol Euler: I hope the job works out.
Dash Earthboy: thanks
Dash Earthboy: i'll look forward to when next we meet...peace y'all
Alfred Kelberry: hi :)
Wol Euler: hello boxy
Alfred Kelberry: off you go?
Wol Euler: not yet
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Alfred Kelberry: ok, i'll stay here with you for a while :)
Wol Euler: how are you today?
Alfred Kelberry: not bad
Wol Euler: up really early
Alfred Kelberry: cafh wiki is finally on
Wol Euler: cafh?
Alfred Kelberry: remember the workshop from last year?
Wol Euler: give me a clue? there were a dozen
Alfred Kelberry: um... i've only been there once :)
Wol Euler: what does cafh stand for?
Wol Euler: I assume it's an acronym
Alfred Kelberry: but this will give you an idea: http://www.cafh.org/english/index.htm
Wol Euler: "The word Cafh has ancient roots and several meanings. For example, it is the eleventh letter of the Hebrew alphabet. It also appears in the Tarot as the card Strength, symbolized by the image of a woman holding tight the jaws of a lion. "
Wol Euler: so it's not an acronym.
Wol Euler: "Cafh puts forward a universal way of thinking and a method of life which promote the unfolding of the human being. This unfolding consists in expanding one’s consciousness and cultivating a sense of responsibility in relation to one’s own life, one’s family, and the unfolding of humanity. In this way, Cafh fosters personal unfolding together with the advancement of humanity."
Alfred Kelberry: it looks like a bridal dress :)
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: I should wear the furry scarf, just a mo
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Alfred Kelberry: furry girl :)
Wol Euler: wearing fur feels a little odd now that I have a furry avatar too
Wol Euler: feels like cannibalism ...
Alfred Kelberry: ha!
--BELL--
Alfred Kelberry: um, i have to go
Wol Euler smiles.
Alfred Kelberry: thank you for the company, woly :)
Wol Euler: my pleasure, thank you boxy
Wol Euler: take care
Alfred Kelberry: fur well :)
Wol Euler: :)
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