2011.05.29 13:00 - Everyone Brings Something Delicious Here

The guardian for this session was Wol Euler filling in for Maxine Walden...

[13:05] Wol Euler: hello arch
[13:05] Archmage Atlantis: hello Wol
[13:05] Wol Euler: hello gaya
[13:05] Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Arch and Wol :)
[13:05] Archmage Atlantis: hello Gaya
[13:06] Gaya Ethaniel: How do you lower the fountain?
[13:06] Gaya Ethaniel: It blocks my view ...
[13:06] Wol Euler smiles.
[13:07] Archmage Atlantis: I think one wishes it to be lower??
[13:08] Gaya Ethaniel frowns .... wishes it ... hm ... it doesn't work meh.
[13:08] Archmage Atlantis: Or not
[13:08] Wol Euler: like that?
[13:08] Gaya Ethaniel: oh it worked ... wow I have magic power!
[13:09] Wol Euler: no, I typed in the right command :)
[13:09] Wol Euler: "/9 low"
[13:09] Gaya Ethaniel pokes you ...
[13:09] Wol Euler: sorry, but I did :-P
[13:09] Archmage Atlantis: The is power, power, wonder working power....
[13:09] Archmage Atlantis: sorry, too many revivals
[13:09] Gaya Ethaniel: Not true, it was my magic power.
[13:09] Wol Euler: testify!
[13:10] Gaya Ethaniel doesn't feel any needs to explain these things.
[13:10] Wol Euler is awed and enhumbled.
[13:10] Archmage Atlantis: Agree, Gaya
[13:10] Gaya Ethaniel: :P
[13:10] Gaya Ethaniel: brb
[13:11] Archmage Atlantis: How is the architecture biz going Wol?
[13:11] Gaya Ethaniel: back
[13:11] Archmage Atlantis: front
[13:12] Wol Euler: in a strangely mixed state, arch :)
[13:12] Wol Euler: there's not much for us to do except wait for problems to arise onsite and hopefully resolve them asap
[13:12] Wol Euler: there are nine more weeks to the official opening, and it's nowhere near ready.
[13:12] Archmage Atlantis: You are not committed to this project in your heart
[13:13] Wol Euler scoffs
[13:13] Archmage Atlantis: I did not say you should be
[13:13] Wol Euler: could you expand on that please?
[13:13] Archmage Atlantis: Ok
[13:14] Archmage Atlantis: In every conversation we have had, you describe it as a task
[13:14] Archmage Atlantis: You do not describe it as a passion
[13:14] Wol Euler: well, we have been working on it full-time for just under three years.
[13:14] Wol Euler: passion wears thin.
[13:15] Wol Euler: most outsiders have no idea how *slow* architecture is
[13:16] Wol Euler smiles.
[13:16] Archmage Atlantis: The opera house in Australia, it is now a great monument......I remember when it was a folly, when the architect was reviled
[13:16] Wol Euler: most great monuments were like that
[13:16] Archmage Atlantis: Yes
[13:18] Wol Euler: and for what it's worth, my description was factually accurate :) the design work was finished over a year ago
[13:18] Wol Euler: what we've been doing since then is cost controlling and solving crises as they arise onsite
[13:18] Wol Euler: mediating between arguing contractors
[13:18] Wol Euler: hard to be passionate about that
[13:19] Gaya Ethaniel: I heard that process is very challenging to manage.
[13:19] Wol Euler: yep
[13:19] Gaya Ethaniel: No one wants to be responsible kind of thing right?
[13:19] Wol Euler: we are everyone's enemy
[13:19] Gaya Ethaniel: :(
[13:19] Wol Euler: yeah, it quickly turns legalistic
[13:19] Gaya Ethaniel: I guess you learn to be firm :)
[13:19] Wol Euler: heheh

[13:19] Wol Euler: and also to know when to turn a blind eye
[13:20] Wol Euler: some things you just have to let slip past, because there is no better solution than X, or because that X is actually covering up a mistake that the archtiect made :)
[13:20] Wol Euler: there is a certain amount of give and take

[13:20] Gaya Ethaniel nods.
[13:20] Archmage Atlantis: You cannot blame yourself, Wol
[13:20] Wol Euler: I don't :)
[13:21] Gaya Ethaniel: :)
[13:21] Archmage Atlantis: You do
[13:21] Wol Euler: well, not for taht :)
[13:21] Wol Euler: okay, I blame myself for mistakes I made, for errors that I should have caught while checking plans but didn'T
[13:21] Wol Euler: but there too, you just have to move on.
[13:21] Gaya Ethaniel nods.
[13:21] Wol Euler: the doorway is 25cm too low? fine, we adjust the doors
[13:22] Wol Euler: we aren't going to start cutting concrete away, not now.
[13:22] Gaya Ethaniel nods nods.
[13:22] Archmage Atlantis: ty for being here Gaya
[13:22] Gaya Ethaniel: yw :)
[13:22] Gaya Ethaniel: How are you today Arch?
[13:22] Archmage Atlantis: Learning
[13:22] Wol Euler smiles.
[13:23] Gaya Ethaniel: :)
[13:24] Gaya Ethaniel: brb
[13:25] Wol Euler: hi steve
[13:25] stevenaia Michinaga: waves
[13:25] Archmage Atlantis: Hello Stevenaia
[13:25] Wol Euler: got a moth problem? :-)
[13:25] stevenaia Michinaga: hi Arch, Wol , Gaya from my Rl backyard
[13:25] Wol Euler: heheheheh
[13:25] Wol Euler: nice
[13:26] Archmage Atlantis: Gaya lives in RL beside you, steven?
[13:26] Wol Euler: ah, from Falln :) should have guessed
[13:26] stevenaia Michinaga: I don;t know where Gaya lives in RL
[13:27] Wol Euler: steve is in her back yard on the laptop (I infer)
[13:27] stevenaia Michinaga: nods
[13:28] Wol Euler: hello zon
[13:28] Archmage Atlantis: Namaste, Zon
[13:28] Zon Kwan: hello all
[13:28] Archmage Atlantis: It has been an odd day
[13:28] Wol Euler: say more?
[13:28] Gaya Ethaniel: back
[13:28] Gaya Ethaniel: Hello stevenaia and Zon :)
[13:29] Archmage Atlantis: I tried to pay SL money, but it would not go through the channesl
[13:29] Zon Kwan: hi and bye
[13:29] stevenaia Michinaga: hi Zon
[13:29] Gaya Ethaniel: oh yes from time to time I camp out at stevenaia's wonderful back garden :P
[13:29] Wol Euler nods. There have been many reports of payments failing in the last weeks.
[13:30] stevenaia Michinaga: the birds and flowers love your company
[13:30] Gaya Ethaniel: :)
[13:30] Archmage Atlantis: I hesitate to say this, but I think the end is close
[13:30] Archmage Atlantis: For SL
[13:30] Archmage Atlantis: Not for life in general
[13:30] stevenaia Michinaga: :)
[13:30] Gaya Ethaniel: phew Arch
[13:31] Wol Euler: the end of SL would be bad enough
[13:31] Gaya Ethaniel: I was just about to say that stevenaia's place has one of the best chef in residence.
[13:31] stevenaia Michinaga: getting the feeling that you live here
[13:31] Gaya Ethaniel: :D
[13:32] Archmage Atlantis: All things end.....that they begin anew....that is rebirth
[13:33] Archmage Atlantis: When I was a child, I became as a child
[13:33] Archmage Atlantis: Odd how those words carry forward
[13:33] stevenaia Michinaga: doesn't every day have that potential?
[13:34] Archmage Atlantis: Yes, Stevenaia, and every era
[13:34] stevenaia Michinaga: today I became Sunday's image of myself
[13:34] Gaya Ethaniel: :)
[13:34] Archmage Atlantis: Yet times come when all is reborn
[13:34] Gaya Ethaniel: What's the secret stevenaia?
[13:34] Gaya Ethaniel: Give me a discount rate for sharing that too ...
[13:35] stevenaia Michinaga: smiles, no secret
[13:35] stevenaia Michinaga: just acceptance
[13:35] Archmage Atlantis: 3.5 % early payment, Gaya
[13:35] Gaya Ethaniel: acceptance of ... ?
[13:35] Gaya Ethaniel: or *just* acceptance?
[13:36] Archmage Atlantis: Oh I remember what I was meant to say
[13:36] Archmage Atlantis: Acceptance
[13:36] Archmage Atlantis: Not real
[13:36] stevenaia Michinaga: well, in this case, that sunday is a new day and you will be doing something you never did before, in my case, glazing windows and mulching garden beds
[13:36] stevenaia Michinaga: thank good ness I won;t be doing this again :)
[13:37] Gaya Ethaniel: Yes ... so true ... automatically one thinks, Sunday ... Sunday, rather than a new day :)
[13:37] Wol Euler: heheh
[13:37] Gaya Ethaniel: lol
[13:37] Wol Euler: hello dash
[13:37] Gaya Ethaniel: Well I'm sure you were given wonderful yummy rewards for it.
[13:37] Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Dash :)
[13:37] Archmage Atlantis: Letting go of a way that is not working....some call that acceptance......still it implies accepting the status quo.....going forward is who we are
[13:38] stevenaia Michinaga: hmmm, yes, the gift of monday
[13:38] Gaya Ethaniel: :)
[13:39] Archmage Atlantis: Just another manic Monday,wish it were a....
[13:39] Wol Euler: :)
[13:39] Dash Earthboy: that's my fun day
[13:39] stevenaia Michinaga: I have been thinking about the past few years here recently, and what I have learned not only from PaB but from the people I have met here, quite tranformative for me
[13:39] Dash Earthboy: my i don't have to run day
[13:39] Wol Euler: say more?
[13:39] stevenaia Michinaga: acceptance is not a static condition
[13:40] Gaya Ethaniel listens.
[13:40] stevenaia Michinaga: ,,,panic
[13:40] stevenaia Michinaga: smiles
[13:40] Gaya Ethaniel: oh ... please don't ...
[13:40] stevenaia Michinaga: just from listening
[13:41] stevenaia Michinaga: like a progressive dinner, everyone brings somthing delicious here
[13:41] stevenaia Michinaga: and we all get to enjoy it all combined in wonderful new ways
[13:42] stevenaia Michinaga: how could that happen daily in any other place
[13:42] Dash Earthboy: i've seen it at some jobs???
[13:42] Gaya Ethaniel: :))
[13:43] Gaya Ethaniel hopes her dishes aren't too burnt.
[13:43] stevenaia Michinaga: so I take that with me when I leave this place and expect the same thing in more aslects of life
[13:43] stevenaia Michinaga: *aspects
[13:43] stevenaia Michinaga: not as an expectation, but as acceptance
[13:44] stevenaia Michinaga: you learn to take the knwoledge brodge to you and snack on it
[13:44] stevenaia Michinaga: *brought

[13:44] Archmage Atlantis: Body is crashing.......Blessings and Namste, Yawl
[13:44] Wol Euler: bye arch, take care
[13:44] Gaya Ethaniel nods and ponders ...
[13:45] Gaya Ethaniel: Bye Arch :)
[13:46] Dash Earthboy: yes, Stev, it's wonderful to be working with a great team that accepts & encourages each other toward common goals
[13:47] Gaya Ethaniel: That's just amazing stevenaia ...
[13:47] Wol Euler nods.
[13:47] stevenaia Michinaga: team?
[13:47] Gaya Ethaniel: I think I've learnt in a similar way but haven't really framed it as such to be conscious.
[13:47] stevenaia Michinaga: Team PaB?
[13:47] Wol Euler: rah rah rah
[13:47] Dash Earthboy: team/group/
[13:47] Wol Euler: we need t-shirts
[13:47] Dash Earthboy: yah!
[13:48] Gaya Ethaniel: :)
[13:48] stevenaia Michinaga: we have the 3yr t's
[13:48] Dash Earthboy: i'm a team-oriented person
[13:48] Gaya Ethaniel: :)
[13:48] Wol Euler: :)
[13:49] Dash Earthboy: and my problem is trying to find one that doesn't turn out to be the Black Sox ;)
[13:49] Gaya Ethaniel: Yes you and I are more on wahing up team in the divisional sense :P
[13:49] Dash Earthboy: give me a P.... give me an A....
[13:49] stevenaia Michinaga: I alway feel a better .... anything .. results form group participation
[13:49] Wol Euler: :)
[13:50] Gaya Ethaniel: :)
[13:50] stevenaia Michinaga: which is great when you work in groups
[13:50] Dash Earthboy: for sure
[13:50] Dash Earthboy: in music, for instance, i like the harmonies we can have as a group
[13:51] Dash Earthboy: hard to harmonize with onesself!
[13:51] stevenaia Michinaga: you start with ideas and egos) and end with tasty pudding that everyone enjoys, no one cares which flavor ws contributed by whom, it's just good
[13:51] Gaya Ethaniel: :D
[13:51] Gaya Ethaniel: What do you do with people who shouts, that is my recipe?
[13:52] Gaya Ethaniel: I've seen that ...
[13:52] Dash Earthboy: i'm trying to put off supper....;)
[13:52] Wol Euler smiles.
[13:52] stevenaia Michinaga: what's for supper?
[13:52] Dash Earthboy: you mean the taking credit for ideas?
[13:52] Gaya Ethaniel: Not just that, just spoling the enjoyment.
[13:53] Dash Earthboy: supper is smoked salmon on celery, carrots, cranberry juice
[13:53] Wol Euler: nice
[13:53] Gaya Ethaniel: :)
[13:53] stevenaia Michinaga: every group needs comic releif, especially of they don;t know how funny they are
[13:53] Dash Earthboy: it's 95 here
[13:53] stevenaia Michinaga: *if
[13:53] stevenaia Michinaga: 85 here :)
[13:54] Gaya Ethaniel: lol comic relief ...
[13:54] Dash Earthboy: yah
[13:55] stevenaia Michinaga: the one who needs to take shout and the other who see how irrelivant shouting is
[13:55] Dash Earthboy: i'm very aware of how funny i am...i'm reminded each time I look in the mirror ;)
[13:55] Gaya Ethaniel: :)
[13:55] Gaya Ethaniel: I think I often shout :P
[13:55] Dash Earthboy: who's shouting?
[13:55] Gaya Ethaniel: Hard to let go of ego ...
[13:56] Dash Earthboy: so ego's a BAD thing?
[13:56] Dash Earthboy: then I guess super-ego is SUPER BAD!!!
[13:56] stevenaia Michinaga: not a psycologist, perhaps you should remove it and see if it;s important
[13:56] Dash Earthboy: oops, didn't mean to shout ;)
[13:57] Gaya Ethaniel: heheh
[13:57] stevenaia Michinaga: giggles
[13:57] Wol Euler: :)
[13:57] Gaya Ethaniel: waaah, so funny ...
[13:57] Dash Earthboy: rofl?
[13:57] Gaya Ethaniel: :)

[13:58] stevenaia Michinaga: the other day I went to work and art the end of the day I realized I had 2 different shoes on , I think no one noticed, concerned I don;t check in the mirror enough

[13:58] Gaya Ethaniel: no way
[13:58] Dash Earthboy: sounds like a fashion statement to me :)
[13:59] stevenaia Michinaga: they were the same color
[13:59] stevenaia Michinaga: I suppose the next day everyone will do that
[13:59] Wol Euler: yep!
[13:59] Gaya Ethaniel: :)
[13:59] Dash Earthboy: i think of a scene from "Rebel Without a Cause"
[14:01] Dash Earthboy: was the 8 AM mtg inspiring this morning?
[14:01] Gaya Ethaniel: mm ... I didn't attend it.
[14:02] stevenaia Michinaga: I was glazing windows
[14:02] stevenaia Michinaga: :)
[14:02] Dash Earthboy: me & Adams were about the only ones at the 7 AM one here
[14:02] Dash Earthboy: glazing windows....sounds like a movie :)
[14:02] Gaya Ethaniel: ah ok
[14:03] Wol Euler thinks of glazing donuts
[14:03] Dash Earthboy: glazing pottery
[14:03] stevenaia Michinaga: very messy, this stuff has strange stuff in it, fish old and needs to be played with in your hands like playdough to work
[14:03] Dash Earthboy: tries to steer subject away from food*
[14:03] Gaya Ethaniel: :)
[14:04] Dash Earthboy: fish oil huh?
[14:04] Gaya Ethaniel: fish old?
[14:04] Dash Earthboy: did they use that in Ghost?
[14:05] stevenaia Michinaga: love that movie
[14:05] Dash Earthboy: yah
[14:05] Dash Earthboy: that and RoadHouse
[14:06] stevenaia Michinaga: hehe, well, I didn;t cry watching Roadhouse
[14:06] Wol Euler: :)
[14:06] Dash Earthboy: i did!
[14:06] Gaya Ethaniel: You cried watching Ghost then?
[14:06] stevenaia Michinaga: but I do like it
[14:06] Dash Earthboy: the old best friend getting killed like that
[14:06] stevenaia Michinaga: nods, when Woppy goldberg is outside the door
[14:06] Gaya Ethaniel: aw
[14:07] stevenaia Michinaga: and the penny is passed
[14:07] Gaya Ethaniel: :)
[14:07] stevenaia Michinaga: every time
[14:07] Gaya Ethaniel: aw
[14:07] Gaya Ethaniel: Well, me too ... :)
[14:07] Dash Earthboy: Whoopi is such a wonderful actress
[14:07] Wol Euler smiles.
[14:08] Wol Euler: "it's a wonderful life" does that to me :)
[14:08] Dash Earthboy: ah yes :)
[14:08] Dash Earthboy: Stewart knows how to bring it to us
[14:09] Dash Earthboy: politician, banker or cowboy
[14:09] Wol Euler nods.
[14:09] Wol Euler: he was typecast, it occurs to me, he only every played supremely *honourable* men
[14:09] Dash Earthboy: hmmm, you're right!
[14:09] Wol Euler: (that I know of)
[14:09] stevenaia Michinaga: even a politician
[14:10] Gaya Ethaniel: It must be boring to be a typecast ...
[14:10] stevenaia Michinaga: that;s tough
[14:10] Wol Euler: heheheh
[14:10] Dash Earthboy: O'Toole has maybe more of a range
[14:10] Gaya Ethaniel: I mean we kinda do that in RL too ...
[14:10] Wol Euler: yeh
[14:11] Dash Earthboy: King Henry to Mr. Chips and...
[14:11] Gaya Ethaniel: Even ourselves ...
[14:11] Dash Earthboy: typecasting makes life easier in some ways, harder in others
[14:11] Dash Earthboy: it's part of that "career" image

[14:12] Gaya Ethaniel: So you think one needs a certain degree of typecasting?

[14:12] Dash Earthboy: well, there is always someone trying to do that (typecasting) to you
[14:13] Gaya Ethaniel: But we always have freedom not to go along with that story?
[14:13] stevenaia Michinaga: I once heard Meryl Streep speak at a college graduation, I think a realitve or someone in her family was graduating and she was the commencement speaker, and I realized, that she was vessel for all those charaters... and was like none of them
[14:14] stevenaia Michinaga: was not my expectation
[14:14] Gaya Ethaniel: Yes ... she's amazing.
[14:14] Dash Earthboy: yah
[14:14] Gaya Ethaniel: Why not?
[14:14] Dash Earthboy: i saw her in her debut in "Julia"
[14:14] stevenaia Michinaga: it was like there was less of here in RL so she could be "whatever" while acting
[14:15] Dash Earthboy: she has a great range
[14:15] stevenaia Michinaga: this was in the 80's
[14:16] Dash Earthboy: really liked Streep's character in "Defending Your Life" too...she plays very well with Albert Brooks

[14:16] stevenaia Michinaga: I felt after that she had the "space" inside her to 'become" all those other people

[14:16] Gaya Ethaniel: cool ...
[14:17] stevenaia Michinaga: that was waht made her great
[14:17] Dash Earthboy: yes, her capacity to "become" the character
[14:17] stevenaia Michinaga: yes, cause I didn;t see it in RL, grins
[14:17] Dash Earthboy: right
[14:18] Gaya Ethaniel: I feel that those people are aware of all those characters that already exist in some sense, perhaps that sense of space and potential stevenaia mentioned.
[14:18] stevenaia Michinaga: she was in amovie with Robert Redford and some of the talk was about how starstruck she was by him
[14:18] Dash Earthboy: i think it's like Schwarzenegger only "Terminated" his political career in RL
[14:18] stevenaia Michinaga: out of africa
[14:19] Gaya Ethaniel: oh I remember that :)
[14:19] Dash Earthboy: Out of Africa was one of first VHS I bought
[14:19] stevenaia Michinaga: :)
[14:19] Gaya Ethaniel: Love the music too ... Mozart :)
[14:19] Dash Earthboy: really like most anything w/Redford in it and with Streep too...just fabulous!
[14:21] Wol Euler: (my dears, please do continue! but I must go. Goodnight, take care)
[14:21] stevenaia Michinaga: now I;m getting hungry, time to light the bbq and see what;s around to cook
[14:21] Dash Earthboy: met Redford while attending school in UT in early 70s...wonderful social conscience
[14:21] Wol Euler: goodnight!
[14:21] Dash Earthboy: g'nite Wol!
[14:21] stevenaia Michinaga: thank you me dear friends
[14:21] Dash Earthboy: sleep well
[14:21] Dash Earthboy: ok Stev
[14:21] Gaya Ethaniel: Bye :)
[14:21] Dash Earthboy: the BBQ sounds good!
[14:21] Gaya Ethaniel: I should get going too ... lat here.
[14:21] stevenaia Michinaga: wish I had some salmond
[14:22] Gaya Ethaniel: Nice seeing you :) Enjoy your dinner Dash.
[14:22] Dash Earthboy: time for me to fly....or teleport
[14:22] Gaya Ethaniel: :)