2012.08.05 01:00 - We often have bad opinions of ourselves

Wol Euler was guardian for this session.

TwitchyEars Resident: hi aga
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Twitchypants :)
TwitchyEars Resident: hows you ?
Agatha Macbeth: Eating breakfast
Agatha Macbeth: and yawning
TwitchyEars Resident: awwww
Agatha Macbeth smiles
TwitchyEars Resident: i was watching videos
Agatha Macbeth: Naughty ones?
TwitchyEars Resident: lol no
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
TwitchyEars Resident: im too boring
TwitchyEars Resident: just silly stuff
Agatha Macbeth: You don't seem boring to me
Agatha Macbeth: maybe it takes time? :D
TwitchyEars Resident: im boring to me
TwitchyEars Resident: heh
Agatha Macbeth: I guess we often have bad opinions of ourselves
TwitchyEars Resident: i think we judge ourselves more harshly than others. unless someone is an egomaniac
Agatha Macbeth: Oh I've known a few of those! :-)
TwitchyEars Resident: i have a brother like that
Agatha Macbeth: Doesn't run in the family then? :p
TwitchyEars Resident: na
TwitchyEars Resident: im the shy one
Agatha Macbeth smiles
Agatha Macbeth: Will you hit me if I say shy is cute?
TwitchyEars Resident: lolol
TwitchyEars Resident: ppl think it is
TwitchyEars Resident: not so fun from the inside
Agatha Macbeth: It can hold you back yes
TwitchyEars Resident: im painfully shy rl
Agatha Macbeth: So was i when young, but found it gets easier as I get older
TwitchyEars Resident: ill have to be 100 then :P
TwitchyEars Resident: youre in europe right ?
Agatha Macbeth: England
TwitchyEars Resident: oh nice :)
Agatha Macbeth: Wel...
Agatha Macbeth: Well* (rather)
Agatha Macbeth: Can't say too much for the weather
TwitchyEars Resident: i grew up in a rain forest
Agatha Macbeth: Amazon?
TwitchyEars Resident: no west coast of canada
Agatha Macbeth: Oh nice
TwitchyEars Resident: temperate. our rainy season is all winter
Agatha Macbeth: Aph country

--BELL--

Agatha Macbeth nods
TwitchyEars Resident: shes about 500km from me now. now i live in the desert
Agatha Macbeth: There's desert in Canada?
TwitchyEars Resident: yups
Agatha Macbeth: Wow
Agatha Macbeth: never knew that
TwitchyEars Resident: lots of ppl dont
Agatha Macbeth: I just think of lots of wheat and snow
TwitchyEars Resident: my province has artic, rain forests, desert, alpine bit of everything
Agatha Macbeth: Good lord
Agatha Macbeth: Are you near the US border?
TwitchyEars Resident: about 3 hrs 3 1/2
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, right
Agatha Macbeth: I love the way you type one-handed :)
TwitchyEars Resident: its an ani i got for typing cos me all of 10L
Agatha Macbeth smiles
Agatha Macbeth: I totally refuse to shell out major amounts of money on AOs
Agatha Macbeth: I think the most expensive one I ever had is 1L
TwitchyEars Resident: ive bought 3. one for my human form one for my neko rp and one mistake
TwitchyEars Resident: so prolly just over 5000L
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, can't beat mistakes :p
TwitchyEars Resident: unfortunately im vein lol
Agatha Macbeth: Girls have every right to be vain :)
TwitchyEars Resident: :)
TwitchyEars Resident: sl is fun for playing dress up
Agatha Macbeth: Oh isn't it just :p
Agatha Macbeth: I love it
Agatha Macbeth: Morning Wollage ♥
TwitchyEars Resident: just wish hair was this easy rl
Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
TwitchyEars Resident: gmoring wol
Wol Euler: good morning/evening
Agatha Macbeth: You look rather....white
Agatha Macbeth: I just found out Twitch is from Canada :)
Wol Euler: indeed
TwitchyEars Resident: middle of no where yes
Agatha Macbeth: Oh love being in the middle of nowhere
TwitchyEars Resident: i dont cope with cities well
Agatha Macbeth: I can't stand em really
Agatha Macbeth: Prefer the country
TwitchyEars Resident: i grew up very remote just my normal i guess
Agatha Macbeth: Sounds wonderful
Wol Euler smiles.
TwitchyEars Resident: has its ups and down
TwitchyEars Resident: small enough you know everyone, but small enough everyone knows you. there isnt any secrets
Wol Euler: that is true :)
Agatha Macbeth: Aha
Agatha Macbeth: Like Hobbiton :p
Wol Euler: and not much variety either
TwitchyEars Resident: same ppl over and over whether you like them or not
Wol Euler nods.
Agatha Macbeth: 'Familiarity breeds contempt but a lack of it doesn't breed anything'
TwitchyEars Resident: i met one kid years ago when i was 17
TwitchyEars Resident: went island hopping for some parties
TwitchyEars Resident: his family lived on that island forever
TwitchyEars Resident: asked him about dating there he said he didnt cos he accidently dated a cousin without knowing it
Wol Euler chuckles.
Agatha Macbeth: Hmm, nice
Agatha Macbeth: Keep it in the family
TwitchyEars Resident: ya kinda sucked a lot lol
Agatha Macbeth: I think the american south has a reputation for that kind of thing
Agatha Macbeth thinks of jerry Lee Lewis
TwitchyEars Resident: when your family tree is a stump its time to move
Wol Euler: or when it forms loops and swirls
TwitchyEars Resident: lolol
Agatha Macbeth: I think I'm waking up now
TwitchyEars Resident: coffee wakes me up. then it makes me pee all day >.<
Agatha Macbeth: Erk
Wol Euler: hehehe
Wol Euler: um, twitchy, should you be waking *up* at 1am?
Agatha Macbeth: Actually peeing is no bad thing: excess body fluid is highly bad for you
TwitchyEars Resident: ill sleep when im dead

--BELL--

Agatha Macbeth: How long have you been in SL then?
TwitchyEars Resident: 5 years total with lots of long breaks.
Agatha Macbeth: Oh wow
TwitchyEars Resident: i came here to hide when my dad died
Agatha Macbeth: Awww
Agatha Macbeth: *hugs*
TwitchyEars Resident: hugs
TwitchyEars Resident: its a good place to make believe everything is ok :)
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, this is true :0
Wol Euler gives you a hug
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Agatha Macbeth: Group hug
TwitchyEars Resident: heh hugs are good i like them
Agatha Macbeth: Moi aussi
TwitchyEars Resident: tu parle francaise
TwitchyEars Resident: ?
Agatha Macbeth: Actually we seem to do it a lot in this group
Agatha Macbeth: Un peu ;P
TwitchyEars Resident: i read it almost fluently
Agatha Macbeth: Beaudelaire?
TwitchyEars Resident: dont know why. guess i actually paid attn in that class
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: that's what does it
Agatha Macbeth: Well will help if you move to quebec ;-)
Wol Euler: so much of schooling is pushed into kids without giving them any reason or showing any usefulness
TwitchyEars Resident: na i wont go there. i dont think i could live anywhere else but here
Wol Euler: like packing cement into a mould with a trowel
Agatha Macbeth grins
TwitchyEars Resident: like math. omg. i dont understand why math teachers have to make it a mystery
Agatha Macbeth: It is something of an arcane subject to many I guess
Wol Euler: perhaps they love the mystery of it themselves, and want to show that aspect?
TwitchyEars Resident: school teaches to be obedient not to think.
Agatha Macbeth: Could be
Agatha Macbeth: I always found it fascination tbh
TwitchyEars Resident: my grade 10 math teacher hated me
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, well that never helps
Wol Euler: :(
TwitchyEars Resident: he had my brother before me and took it out on me. his very first words to me was "jesus fucking christ not another fucking [enter my last name here] "
Agatha Macbeth: Oh, wonderful
TwitchyEars Resident: those words exactly.
Wol Euler: O.O
TwitchyEars Resident: ya its like oh i can tell ill do GREAT! in this class :D
Agatha Macbeth: Not the best introduction certainly
Agatha Macbeth: You sound quite young actually
TwitchyEars Resident: 28
Agatha Macbeth: Like I said...:)
TwitchyEars Resident: :P
Wol Euler: :)
Wol Euler: we are oldies here btw :)
Agatha Macbeth: To me anybody under 30 is a kid these days
TwitchyEars Resident: never went to college. never did lots of things. never even saw a live concert that wasnt at the local pub
Wol Euler smiles.
Agatha Macbeth: Pub concerts are good! :p
TwitchyEars Resident: they can be fun :)
Agatha Macbeth: I've known a few
TwitchyEars Resident: i like this group its interesting to see other ppls worlds
Wol Euler nods and smiles
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, I've been here pretty much since I arrived
Agatha Macbeth: Think I found it after about three weeks
TwitchyEars Resident: lucky you. i did all the stupid noob stuff
Agatha Macbeth: I was lucky :p
Agatha Macbeth: I didn't move off the orientation island for about a week tho

--BELL--

Agatha Macbeth: Wanted to be sure i could at least walk and talk poperly first
TwitchyEars Resident: i came with my rl sister. we called her tinkerbell cos shed fly around crashing into everything
Wol Euler: me too, I was there for about a week
Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
Wol Euler: until all my friends left, then I thought it was time to move on
TwitchyEars Resident: awwww
Wol Euler smiles.
TwitchyEars Resident: im stupidly nostalgic. makes me sad to say goodbye
Agatha Macbeth: The thing I remember most about it was a huge 'Press F1' spinning round in the middle
Agatha Macbeth: And a piano
Wol Euler: awwwww
TwitchyEars Resident: i tpd out right away cos a friend we knew was here she helped us with everything
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, that does help a lot
TwitchyEars Resident: funny how av's take on a personality
Wol Euler: absolutely!
Agatha Macbeth: Absolutely
Agatha Macbeth: Snap
Wol Euler: snap
Wol Euler: heheheh
TwitchyEars Resident: my first av was a dreadful slut
TwitchyEars Resident: my next av was a virgin
Wol Euler: :)
Agatha Macbeth: I'd probably like her! :p
TwitchyEars Resident: this one is just silly
Agatha Macbeth: and cute...
TwitchyEars Resident: i like cute :)
Agatha Macbeth: Me too
TwitchyEars Resident: i rp, build and now come here
Agatha Macbeth: I never got into building
TwitchyEars Resident: im addicted
Agatha Macbeth: Never seem to find time
TwitchyEars Resident: make sculpts and textures in photoshop. textures are my fav
Agatha Macbeth: Ooh
Agatha Macbeth: You make clothes?
TwitchyEars Resident: no never got into it
TwitchyEars Resident: friends did
Agatha Macbeth: Pity
TwitchyEars Resident: one of my friends makes av's like the clothes and stuff. she made me a demon av
Wol Euler: ooh
Agatha Macbeth: Erk
TwitchyEars Resident: not quite so cute lol
Agatha Macbeth: Well certainly different
Wol Euler: wow
TwitchyEars Resident: this is my other form i use for rp
TwitchyEars Resident: my silly neko
Wol Euler: heheh
Wol Euler: you were in that the other day, I noticed the skin
Agatha Macbeth: I love nekos
TwitchyEars Resident: i play a naive uneducated one its fun and funny
Wol Euler grins.
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
TwitchyEars Resident: i think sl really reflects rl desires and dreams. good and bad
Agatha Macbeth: There's a lot in that, yes
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe what keeps many people here
TwitchyEars Resident: a hidden world where dreams can be true
Agatha Macbeth: To some I think it *is* real
Wol Euler nods.
TwitchyEars Resident: its as real as you let yourself feel it
Agatha Macbeth: Embodiment
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Wol Euler: it is very real to me :)
Wol Euler: do you dream in SL?
Wol Euler: in your avatar?`
TwitchyEars Resident: ive had rl dreams of sl
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: exactly :)
Agatha Macbeth: I can never remember my dreams :(
Wol Euler: my RL dreams often use my SL bodies
Wol Euler: and people I know from SL are in them
TwitchyEars Resident: mine are usually mixed rl and sl
Wol Euler: yep :)
TwitchyEars Resident: emotions are real. feelings are real only thing you can do is touch
TwitchyEars Resident: its a really thin line
Wol Euler nods.

--BELL--

TwitchyEars Resident: i think it can show you parts of yourself you never knew existed. ppl say its without consequence but i dont agree. emotions you feel are real in your real life
Wol Euler: and once it has happened and become a memory:
Wol Euler: what is then the difference between a memory of SL and a memory of RL? :)
TwitchyEars Resident: if you feel it its equally real
Wol Euler nods.
TwitchyEars Resident: what is the difference between a dream and awake ?
TwitchyEars Resident: both are part of you
Agatha Macbeth thinks of butterflies
TwitchyEars Resident: sl shows darkness or light depends what you do with yourself
TwitchyEars Resident: like real life
Wol Euler nods.
Agatha Macbeth: Mmm
TwitchyEars Resident: my dad used to tell me its not what you do that matters. its what you can live with afterwards that counts
Agatha Macbeth: Aha
Agatha Macbeth: Much to be said for that
Agatha Macbeth: (I think I must be using Zen's voice typing thingy)
Wol Euler: heheheh
Agatha Macbeth: Or maybe I'm not as awake as I thought yet
Wol Euler: nah, couldn'T be that.
Agatha Macbeth: Welllll...
Agatha Macbeth: So you like PaB then Twitch?
TwitchyEars Resident: i like it not sure if ill stay tho. i talk too much about things that arent so interesting i think
TwitchyEars Resident: makes me feel stupid
Agatha Macbeth: Don't be silly, I do that all the time
Wol Euler: of course!
Agatha Macbeth: Thanks
Wol Euler: nothing is inherently intereting!
Wol Euler: of course to twitchy, not to you, dearest.
Agatha Macbeth: If you're expecting anything deeply philosophical i doubt you'll hear it from me
Agatha Macbeth: But of course there are people here who are into that stuff
Wol Euler: this conversation has been fascinating to me
Wol Euler: even if nobody has yet said "meditation"
Agatha Macbeth: Meditation!
TwitchyEars Resident: i disagree. i think every person is an entire universe. all you have to do is see it the right way
Wol Euler: yep
Agatha Macbeth: onigokko
Agatha Macbeth: stop
Wol Euler: I must have knocked mine off when I put on the chim at Fracture last night
Agatha Macbeth grins
TwitchyEars Resident: i like to see everything. i want to experience everything possible
Wol Euler grins.
Agatha Macbeth: There's something to be said for that
Agatha Macbeth: Mind you, it's easier when when you're younger
Wol Euler hands Aggers her zimmer frame
Agatha Macbeth: Merci cherie
Wol Euler: wonder if there are zimmer frames in SL?
Agatha Macbeth: Probably
TwitchyEars Resident: zimmer frames ?
Agatha Macbeth: I've certainly seen people in wheelchairs and on crutches!
Wol Euler: an english invention, despite the name. the four-legged aluminium constructions that old people use to walk with
Wol Euler: like a four-legged cane that you can rest on
TwitchyEars Resident: oh a walker
Wol Euler: yeh :)
Agatha Macbeth: Always makes me think of Zimmerman
Wol Euler: bob?
Agatha Macbeth: That's the one
Wol Euler smiles
Wol Euler: I know you so well
Agatha Macbeth: This is true
Wol Euler: we're the Statler and Waldorf of SL :)
Agatha Macbeth: Boo! boo!
Agatha Macbeth: It's awful!
TwitchyEars Resident: my hero one of them was an early aviator amy johnson. she learned to fly when womens place was at home popping out babies. she set records before amelia erheart did
TwitchyEars Resident: she refused to live by conventions
Agatha Macbeth: Oh yes
Wol Euler nods.
Agatha Macbeth: Never found her body I think?

--BELL--

TwitchyEars Resident: died ferrying RAF spitfires cos they wouldnt let her into combat
TwitchyEars Resident: no i dont think they did
Agatha Macbeth: My old man was in the RAF
Wol Euler: in ww2?
Agatha Macbeth: Hang on, just got GN
Agatha Macbeth nods to Wol
TwitchyEars Resident: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4FEkK3LQJQ this is my dream :)
Wol Euler: ah :)
Agatha Macbeth: M & C factory eh?
Agatha Macbeth: might take a look later
Wol Euler: fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
TwitchyEars Resident: its wingsuit flying.
Wol Euler: um, not for me
Wol Euler: very not for me
Agatha Macbeth: Anyway, I must hit the store
Wol Euler: I wouldn't even walk up to the edge of the cliff to watch you fall
TwitchyEars Resident: ok cyas later
Wol Euler: bye aggers, enjoy the day
Agatha Macbeth: Take care babes, mice chatting
Wol Euler: and the rats too
TwitchyEars Resident: rats to you too :)
TwitchyEars Resident: ^^
Wol Euler: heheheh
Wol Euler: free the mice!
TwitchyEars Resident: im terrified of heights but id do that
TwitchyEars Resident: haha
Wol Euler: wow
Wol Euler: I'm not afraid of heights as such, as long as there's a guardrail I am fine
Wol Euler: it's the open unprotected edge that scares me
TwitchyEars Resident: spiders and heights my biggest fear
TwitchyEars Resident: but to fly just even once. to step outside myself and just have this feeling of .... it would just be me for me. nothing between me and the world :)
Wol Euler nods.
Wol Euler: well, go for it.
Wol Euler: you've got plenty of mountains ...
Wol Euler: people must do training for this, there must be a place to learn ...
TwitchyEars Resident: need 200+ parachute jumps and learn how to use a hang glider
Wol Euler: okay, so it's a long-term plan
Wol Euler: you are young
Wol Euler: next question :)
Wol Euler grins.
TwitchyEars Resident: next ?
Wol Euler smiles and waves a hand.
Wol Euler: I was saying "that's not a problem, you can do that"
TwitchyEars Resident: you wont come ? :P itll be fun
Wol Euler: youngsters don't appreciate how much TIME they have
Wol Euler: time is the most important thing
Wol Euler: perhaps the only important thing
Wol Euler: start, continue, you'll get there
TwitchyEars Resident: i learned about time when my dad died. time can break easy enough
Wol Euler nods.
Wol Euler: so many people save up (money, destinations, desires) for their retirement, and then are too sick or frail to enjoy them
Wol Euler: my grandfather died the day after he retired.
TwitchyEars Resident: i never understood that
TwitchyEars Resident: omg
Wol Euler: yeah
TwitchyEars Resident: sorry to hear that
Wol Euler: poor bugger, pardon my french
Wol Euler: oh it was a long time ago, before I was born
TwitchyEars Resident: i grew up on a farm i knew every swear there was by age 4
Wol Euler: :)
TwitchyEars Resident: my mom lolol she used to get mad at me swearing. id tell her, "my own father cant make me stop what makes you think ill listen to you ? "
Wol Euler: heheheh, I bet that calmed her right down!
TwitchyEars Resident: omg
TwitchyEars Resident: twist and spin!
Wol Euler laughs.
Wol Euler: anyway, my dear, it's getting late and I really need my breakfast (and a shower but I won't worry you with the details)
Wol Euler: and you should get some sleep ;)
TwitchyEars Resident: lol oks
TwitchyEars Resident: couple of hrs
Wol Euler: goodnight!
TwitchyEars Resident: go home and work on the build
TwitchyEars Resident: nini