2012.08.16 07:00 - Dark matters

The Guardian for this meeting was Storm Nordwind. The comments are by Storm Nordwind.

Bleu Oleander: morning Storm :)
Storm Nordwind: Good morning!
Bleu Oleander: how are things in the mtns?
Storm Nordwind: We keep getting other people's smoke. But otherwise well :)
Storm Nordwind: Any more haboobs?
Bleu Oleander: 2nd hand smoke ... :)
Bleu Oleander: we had one last week
Bleu Oleander: missed us though
Storm Nordwind: Good morning Eliza
Bleu Oleander: hi Eliza .. lovely in green
Eliza Madrigal: Morning :) ty
Storm Nordwind: I am surrounded by beauty :)
Bleu Oleander: awww!
Eliza Madrigal: besieged?
Bleu Oleander: haha
Storm Nordwind: ha!
Storm Nordwind: perhaps
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Riddle :)
Storm Nordwind: Good morning Riddle!
Bleu Oleander: hi Riddle!
Riddle Sideways: Hi Storm, Eliza, Bleu

The theme of ignorance.

Storm Nordwind: What 'thematic progressions' have there been this week?
Eliza Madrigal: :) good question - would say it has been thematic but not necessarily progressive
Bleu Oleander: :)
Riddle Sideways: hard to push ignorance up hill
Eliza Madrigal: hahah
Storm Nordwind: Sounds like a good sig!
Bleu Oleander: like Sisyphus ... keeps rolling back
Storm Nordwind: Sounds like a poster i saw yesterday...
Storm Nordwind: "I'd slap the stupid out of you, but that would take all week..."
Bleu Oleander: :)
Riddle Sideways: hehehehhe
Eliza Madrigal: :) well the basis of the topic is that ignorance has much to teach - treasures in the blind spots
Bleu Oleander: I hope you didn't think that applied to any of us hehe
Eliza Madrigal laughs
Riddle Sideways laughs
Storm Nordwind: Many differences between not knowing that we don't know, knowing that we don't know, and knowing what we don't know...
Bleu Oleander: yes
Eliza Madrigal ponders the resume of unknowing
Bleu Oleander: even admitting that we don't know
Eliza Madrigal: "Hello, please hire me... I don't know a lot!"
Bleu Oleander: but I'm trainable hehe
Eliza Madrigal giggles
--BELL--
Storm Nordwind: "Please hire me. I don't know much but I'll question everything you say until you're infuriated. Of course that will be providing you with a service to test the bounds of your own knowledge..." ;-)
Eliza Madrigal: !!!
Bleu Oleander: :)

On the edges.

Eliza Madrigal: Hi friendly Bertram :)
Riddle Sideways: ok, you're hired and fired
Riddle Sideways: bi bert
Bleu Oleander: hi Bert:)
Riddle Sideways: *hi
Storm Nordwind: Come closer Bert, or you won't be in the chat log!
Bleu Oleander: haha
Bleu Oleander: gaming the system :)
Eliza Madrigal: "potential" - like Bert has the potential to be in the chat log because he is just on the edges
Bleu Oleander: Bert, that's not the spirit
Bleu Oleander: :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: esp if you're "friendly"
Bleu Oleander: hehe
Bleu Oleander: haha
Eliza Madrigal: like coaxing cats into a bath tub
Bertram Jacobus: wow - riddle and storm in partner look !? :-)
Bleu Oleander: black and white
Riddle Sideways: didn't you get the dress code memo?
Storm Nordwind: The rumors are unfounded ;)
Bleu Oleander: haha
Storm Nordwind: We're just good friends
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: in shades of knowing and unknowing and potential knowing
Storm Nordwind: I've no idea ;)
Bleu Oleander: hiya Sam
Riddle Sideways: hi O
Eliza Madrigal: Hi oO0Oo :)
Storm Nordwind: Hi Sam!
Bertram Jacobus: i´m not sure, whether i have a white top or shirt ... hm ... ;-)
oO0Oo Resident: :) Hi Bleu, Riddle, Storm, Eliza, Bertram
Bertram Jacobus: hi sam ! ... :-)

Ignorance and dark matter.

Riddle Sideways: sat for while with the parallels of ignorance and dark matter
Bertram Jacobus: for sure not in such nice qualities like storm and riddle have theirs ...
Riddle Sideways: measurements of the whole and the amount we know about
Riddle Sideways: the missing "stuff"
Bleu Oleander: lots of ignorance there
Riddle Sideways: nice to have some label/words for the missing stuff
Riddle Sideways: dark matter or ignorance
Bleu Oleander: or "missing stuff"
Bertram Jacobus: dark matter = dunkle materie ?
Bleu Oleander: sounds mysterious
Bertram Jacobus: very much so, yes
Storm Nordwind: Hefeweizen Dunkel perhaps?
Bertram Jacobus: ehm - i would be surprised about that storm (!) :-)
Storm Nordwind: True. One shouldn't joke about good beer. ;)
Riddle Sideways: wow, ty
Riddle Sideways: Hi San
Santoshima Resident: hello
Bleu Oleander: hi kitty
Bertram Jacobus: hii san ! ... :-)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi San (brb, son's teacher phone call)
Storm Nordwind: Hi cutie kitty!
Santoshima Resident: !
Bleu Oleander: meow
Santoshima Resident: mornin'
Riddle Sideways: well, was thinking about the matter the universe has but can't be ... , but like that artist
Riddle Sideways: kittie is different colour today :)
Santoshima Resident: shadowy
Bleu Oleander: perhaps needs rebaking?
Riddle Sideways: you have several outfits?
Santoshima Resident: meow
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: huh, a ruth kitty
Riddle Sideways: neat idea
Riddle Sideways: so many things not know.... yet
Bleu Oleander: how does it feel to be a kitty?
Bertram Jacobus doesn´t understand the question with "matter" and "universe" ... sry ... matter = purpose ? no, i guess ... (?)
Eliza Madrigal: Riddle you want the universe to distinguish what is has from what it is? :)
Riddle Sideways: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter
Bleu Oleander: universe may need to drop a bit
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Riddle Sideways: :)
Bleu Oleander: drop what it has to see what it is
Eliza Madrigal: and is not
Bleu Oleander: and might be
Bertram Jacobus: yes - ty both for helping me ! then i understood dark matter correctly
Storm Nordwind: I thought dark matter was just packing for the universe... you know, like expanded polystyrene peanuts...
Bleu Oleander: dark peanuts
oO0Oo Resident: Dark matter is a special scientific term Bertram: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunkle_Materie
Eliza Madrigal: a prop? :)
Bertram Jacobus: yes. i had guessed that and asked already before you came sam - ty ! now there are the answers ... :-)
oO0Oo Resident: but perhaps used in various ways here.. not sure
Bleu Oleander: only more questions
Bertram Jacobus: my impression is that physics these days have some strange and even may be wrong hypothesises - and try to build theoretic systems and elements which make those theories possible ...
Riddle Sideways: have a pretty good idea of what "ALL", "ONE" and Everything means. And a measure of what 'me' / 'mine' is
Riddle Sideways: then the other stuff'
Eliza Madrigal: artists may think in terms of negative space... so is it just a matter of loosening the idea that what is 'known' or seen or alighted, is what is recognized as conscious
Bertram Jacobus likes to come back to simple understanding (!)
Riddle Sideways: the distance between what an I knows and all knowledge

Dark matters.

Santoshima Resident: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iYISVeijk4
Bertram Jacobus: *click*
Bleu Oleander: Terra incognita ... :)
Bleu Oleander: thanks San
Eliza Madrigal: great, ty
Bertram Jacobus: intense ...
Riddle Sideways: thank you
Bertram Jacobus: for what ?
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: TY San, for the URL/ dance performance/ youtube
Bertram Jacobus: hehe - silly me ...
Riddle Sideways: do the strings the run the puppets come from the darkness
Bertram Jacobus: cats who like dance performances ... ;-)
Bleu Oleander: broadway "Cats"
Bertram Jacobus: musical animals
Riddle Sideways: avatars
Santoshima Resident: yes
Bleu Oleander: exactly

We are all rather silent after watching the video.

Bertram Jacobus: ok - i leave - nice having met you - ty for the chat ! may all beings be happy pls ...
Riddle Sideways: mine ignorance is astounding
Riddle Sideways: must leave too
Bleu Oleander: bye Bert, Riddle :)
Storm Nordwind waves
Eliza Madrigal waves
Bertram Jacobus: :-)
Eliza Madrigal particles
Santoshima Resident: bye ~
oO0Oo Resident waves
Bleu Oleander: going to check out dark matter ... take care all :)
Eliza Madrigal: :) bye Bleu nice to see you
Bleu Oleander: bye bye
Storm Nordwind: Bye Bleu!
Santoshima Resident: bye bleu
oO0Oo Resident: bye Bleu.. have a questionable day!
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Santoshima Resident: peace, everyone ~
Eliza Madrigal: bye San
oO0Oo Resident waves
oO0Oo Resident: :)
--BELL--
Storm Nordwind: Thank you dear friends for sharing a peaceful hour :)
Eliza Madrigal: :) Thank you Storm, quite pleasant
oO0Oo Resident: Thanks :)
Storm Nordwind: Namaste
oO0Oo Resident:
oO0Oo Resident: Namaste