2013.07.06 07:00 - family, dreams and certain amount of empathy

    2013.07.06 07:00 - Title goes here

    The Guardian for this meeting was Xirana Oximoxi. The comments are by Xirana Oximoxi.

    Xirana Oximoxi: 's current display-name is "Xirana".
    Korel Laloix: heya
    Xirana Oximoxi: HELLO kORI! :-)
    Xirana Oximoxi: Osiyo :-)
    Korel Laloix smiles
    Korel Laloix: Good to see you... what you been up to?
    Xirana Oximoxi: I'm quite busy RL with more family here
    Xirana Oximoxi: and last saturday I did meet with a group of friends of University and we went walking discovering places ...caves and so on :-)
    Korel Laloix: That does sound lovely.
    Xirana Oximoxi: and next saturday they come to have lunch here..so I will miss my session again...
    Xirana Oximoxi: it seems with good weather people is moving more
    Korel Laloix: No worries I am sure.
    Korel Laloix: Good to have family that you like around.... smiles
    Xirana Oximoxi: well.yes...I was beraly to go when you arrived...not a lot of crowd here :)
    --BELL--
    Xirana Oximoxi: nearly to go :-)
    Korel Laloix smiles
    Xirana Oximoxi: how are you ?
    Korel Laloix: I am not on for long anyway, so if you need to go, please do.
    Korel Laloix: Great... just having a day of doing garden work with grandma today.
    Xirana Oximoxi: oh no...If you are here I saty :-)
    Korel Laloix: About to head over there soon... just got back from running and need to tidy up.
    Korel Laloix: I like to have a nice long cool down after a run if I can.
    Korel Laloix: vs just jumping in the shower like I have to do most days.
    Xirana Oximoxi: oh yes...specially if the weather is hot and one is sweating :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: ah to tidy up...you mean your house?
    Xirana Oximoxi: I hate to do it...but must do, of course :)
    Korel Laloix: No I mean me.... smiles
    Xirana Oximoxi: ahh..I was not sure :))
    Korel Laloix: I am sweaty, muddy, dirty, insect repelent, stuff i my hair... lol... quite a sight I am sure.
    Xirana Oximoxi: hahaha....good description :-)
    Xirana Oximoxi: I can imagine you :))
    Korel Laloix: And I won't go into my scents at the moment.... grins
    Xirana Oximoxi: hehe ok :-))
    Korel Laloix: But it will be good to hlep grandma with her garden... then we usually cook something.
    Korel Laloix: Think we are mostly picking blackberries today so maybe makes some cobler or preserves.
    Xirana Oximoxi: yes...when gardening one gets quite 'dirty' too
    Korel Laloix: So I have to get claened up to go get dirty again...
    Xirana Oximoxi: but it's natural dirty... :-)
    Xirana Oximoxi: yes:))
    Xirana Oximoxi: I do also gardening ...to keep my fther ocupied and not going alone to walk into the wood...he is very old and can be lost easily...what he does not admit at all
    Xirana Oximoxi: father
    Xirana Oximoxi: well...I also like to do it :-) ...
    Korel Laloix: Same sort of for grandma... but she at elast realizes her directions are messed up.
    Korel Laloix: She liked to get out, but really preffers to have someone esle drive.
    Korel Laloix: Not sure how she still has a licence.
    Xirana Oximoxi: that's good :-)
    Xirana Oximoxi: I meant walking...my father does not have his driving license
    Korel Laloix: Yes.... sad to see realy that stage... but it is part of life.
    Xirana Oximoxi: he likes to look for mushrooms..and can get 'desoriented' easily
    Korel Laloix: Just glad to have her around... might move back in with her at the end of this lease and if they repare her house.
    Korel Laloix: Hopefully not from eathing the mushrooms... smiles
    Xirana Oximoxi: wonderful!
    Xirana Oximoxi: I think I remember you liked tp be with her
    Korel Laloix: It was great ans was sad to leave.
    Xirana Oximoxi: tp=to :-))
    Korel Laloix: But I was not safe there any more.'
    Xirana Oximoxi: that's sad
    Korel Laloix: I know.. but her problem son was arrested so he is not there any more.
    Xirana Oximoxi: are the problems solved?
    Xirana Oximoxi: ok:)
    Xirana Oximoxi: that's sad too...but at least you're safe
    Korel Laloix: NOt fully.... he really messed up the place.... they are going toh ave to tare out a bunch of stuff and repair things.
    Korel Laloix: So a lot of work.
    Xirana Oximoxi: you'll get 'fit' doinmg it :-)
    --BELL--
    Korel Laloix: I am already more than my share of "fit".... but I told her other sons that I would not help as i warned them... and they did not believe me. Complicated situation.
    Xirana Oximoxi: I've seen you've had had no time to 'dream' forthe art project :)
    Korel Laloix: I never remember my dreams unless they are nightmares..
    Korel Laloix: So not a lot of point for me.
    Xirana Oximoxi: that's always difficult when there are problems into a family
    Xirana Oximoxi: I know it
    Korel Laloix: And the thing is.. grandma is actually my latest stepfather's mother..... so not blood kin as they say here.
    Xirana Oximoxi: maybe representing the nightmares would be a way to get them off :)
    Korel Laloix: So that makes my position a bit strange.
    Xirana Oximoxi: hello steve :)
    Korel Laloix: I thought about that.
    stevenaia Michinaga: morning
    Korel Laloix: But could not find a good way .
    Korel Laloix: Heya
    Xirana Oximoxi: :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: steve ...you've not been dreaming this time?...you always create nice works:)...as Kori did when she put them at the Dome :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: sorry for the being late,
    Xirana Oximoxi: no problem at all :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: sometimes I've come to a session 5 minutes before the end :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: thanks, but RL demands, slthough makes for good dreams , does not allow much time to render them scuplturally
    stevenaia Michinaga: or to write them down
    stevenaia Michinaga: recently mu dreams have been work related, so almost like not dreaming
    Xirana Oximoxi: yes...it's not easy ...
    stevenaia Michinaga: then, poof the dissappear
    stevenaia Michinaga: like smoke
    Xirana Oximoxi: oh yes...if they are related to work they don't help to relax and disconnect during your slleping
    stevenaia Michinaga: only the patterns, not the story remain
    Xirana Oximoxi: yes...one must write it and I have no patience
    stevenaia Michinaga: I just assume, the memory and story of the dream will persist, I have been wrong about that for decades but I am still too lazy to write them down when they are fresh
    Xirana Oximoxi: yes, me too :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: isn;t that the definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: hehe ...yes...at one point the circle must be changed...if not you't 'fall always with the same stone'
    Xirana Oximoxi: I've translated a Spanish expression :-)
    Xirana Oximoxi: wonderful!!! enjoi it! :-)
    Xirana Oximoxi: wrong window...a friens is on holidays :9
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: I usually only do that when I am typing something increadibly embarrising
    Korel Laloix: Take care all.. I am starting to get chilled...
    Korel Laloix: Thanks for the chat.
    stevenaia Michinaga: bye Korel, gtsy
    Xirana Oximoxi: I prefered the old version of firestorm...not so easy to type in wrong window...but never mind, I am tired of learning about viewers
    Korel Laloix: ciao
    Xirana Oximoxi: bye bye Kori..have a nice shower and gardening
    Xirana Oximoxi: :-)
    --BELL--
    Xirana Oximoxi: hehe yes steve...usually one types in wrong window when sayoig something more private :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: I am sorry to have missed the topic of the week, sounded most interesting, may have to spend some time reading the logs
    Xirana Oximoxi: yes... me too I have not been here a lot this week
    Xirana Oximoxi: we have talked other times about compassion...but this time the comparation maybe makes it more clear
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes
    stevenaia Michinaga: although next week's could be equally interesting
    Xirana Oximoxi: I've learned here that 'compassion' = to suffer with, to share with...
    stevenaia Michinaga: and empathy?
    stevenaia Michinaga: to feels another pain?
    Xirana Oximoxi: we need a more expert with these differences than me :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: maybe they are similar and differences only sublte
    stevenaia Michinaga: "One may need to have a certain amount of empathy before being able to experience accurate sympathy or compassion."
    stevenaia Michinaga: from Wikipedia
    Xirana Oximoxi: it seems logical
    Xirana Oximoxi: I used to understand 'compassion' in the sense of feeling sorry for another one...that may be ¡pity?
    Xirana Oximoxi: pity
    stevenaia Michinaga: the difference may be feeling for someone vs feeling sorry for someone
    stevenaia Michinaga: was just watching the Woman's FInals of Whimbleton, as they spoke when accepting the 1st and 2nd award, I could feel their words, both sad and happy expressed deeply
    stevenaia Michinaga: was not feeling "to bad she lost", but the sadness
    stevenaia Michinaga: seems silly for eyes to get all watery at a TV
    Xirana Oximoxi: I think is sport competition the athletes get a very high point of emotions...they do prepare really hard during a lot of time and it can be lost in one second... they share the emotions...like they can not hide it
    stevenaia Michinaga: ... or a movie
    stevenaia Michinaga: nods
    Xirana Oximoxi: and they transmit it to spectators, sure
    stevenaia Michinaga: I can watch the same movie over and over and still feel the exact same emotion at the same time every time I watch it, you would think some things would pass with time
    stevenaia Michinaga: nice that they don;t
    Xirana Oximoxi: it happened to me more when reading a book
    Xirana Oximoxi: I don't watch a lot of films actually...
    Xirana Oximoxi: I'll have to go now Steve....
    Xirana Oximoxi: thanks for coming:)
    stevenaia Michinaga: bye, have a good day
    Xirana Oximoxi: have a nice day too !

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