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2013.07.14 08:00 - Guardians Session: Meditation with Onigokko
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No headersThis session was attended by: Agatha Macbeth : Aphrodite Macbain : Bleu Oleander : Catrinamonblue Resident : DR42 Resident : Eden Haiku : Eliza Madrigal : Eos Amaterasu : Korel Laloix : Santoshima Resident : Wol Euler : Yakuzza Lethecus : Zen Arado : szavanna Resident
Thanks to Aggers for sending me (Eliza) the log, since I'd neglected to turn on chat logging after updating my viewer. A bit sleepy, I missed some cues and playful banter that was much enjoyed later as I posted.
Thanks to Aggers for sending me (Eliza) the log, since I'd neglected to turn on chat logging after updating my viewer. A bit sleepy, I missed some cues and playful banter that was much enjoyed later as I posted.
Topics:
1. Metamorphosis
2. Time as shows up in the 90 second pauses
1. Metamorphosis
2. Time as shows up in the 90 second pauses
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Hello Cat ^.^
Catrinamonblue: hi :)
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): /me waves
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): oops...sorry to step on your head Aggers
Bleu (bleu.oleander): hi all :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): have a nice surprise today :))
Sunshine (szavanna): hi Eden ;))
Catrinamonblue: Hi Eden :)
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Hello Edie good to see you again
Sunshine (szavanna): hi pablings °͜°
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hi Sun
Bleu (bleu.oleander): Sunji !
Zen (zen.arado): why am I seeing you grey Chiff Chaff?
Sunshine (szavanna): Bleujiii °͜°
Eden Haiku: Hi Sunshine, Agathitha :)
Second Life: San is online.
Eden Haiku: hello everyone:)
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): And hello neko-Sun :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hi Cat :)
Zen (zen.arado): Hi Cat, Aggers, Sunji :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I was neglectful not to send the notice earlier.. so may be just we
Sunshine (szavanna): hi Zenji °͜° Kori, Agi, Lizzy
Sunshine (szavanna): °͜°
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): We are enough I guess
Eden Haiku: It was on the calendar Eliza:)
Sunshine (szavanna): hi Cat & Maude °͜°
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): true
Chiff Chaff (dr42): ηαмαѕтє
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and I sent out a little reminder with the working group minutes
Sunshine (szavanna): _/\_
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): not too much 'business' in WG lately, which I guess is a good thing
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Stevenaia chalks it up to summer
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): summer rhythms :)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): perhaps we're all still dreaming :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): perhaps!
Eden Haiku: ;)
Sunshine (szavanna): zzzzz
Catrinamonblue: :)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): Sunzzzzzzi
Sunshine (szavanna): ;P
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): /me pinches aggers
Bleu (bleu.oleander): :P
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Eek
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): she didn't yelp, must be sleeping
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): She did
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): oh, there... delayed, lol
Chiff Chaff (dr42): Huh? I'm so confused.
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): so shall we pick topics? ideas?
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Yah
Catrinamonblue: like the workign group I had been thinking of a back to basics
Bleu (bleu.oleander): I like your idea of Metamorphoses Eliza :)
Chiff Chaff (dr42): Music? That came up in a few discussions.
Eden Haiku: What about pickin "time" a topic this week as you suggested earlier in the morning session Eliza?
Sunshine (szavanna): mm music °͜°
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): metamorphose is an idea gleaned from sessions
Bleu (bleu.oleander): time is always a good one
Sunshine (szavanna): hi Eos :)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): hi Eos
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Hello E
Catrinamonblue: Hi Eos :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and from coursera
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hello Eos :)
Chiff Chaff (dr42): And There was a set of lectures I found on The perceprion of time in our memory.
Eden Haiku: I like metamorphosis also:)
Eden Haiku: Hi Eos!
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Hi Aph :)
Eos Amaterasu: Hi gang!
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I listened to the first lecture Maude, thanks for passing that along in emails
Catrinamonblue: Hi Aph :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Morning Aph
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): Hello everyone
Sunshine (szavanna): hi Aphji :)
Eden Haiku: Hi Aphrodite!
Bleu (bleu.oleander): hi Aph
Zen (zen.arado): Hi Aph:)
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): Eden!! Hi
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): so how would we approach metamorphose? or is it enough to just have the word and see how we play?
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): transformation
Zen (zen.arado): I just signed up for History of Rock :)
Eden Haiku: Might be enough yes.
Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes, maybe leave it open
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): a geology class Zen?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): hehe
Chiff Chaff (dr42): Zen, that has been a fun series.
Zen (zen.arado): heh no
Zen (zen.arado): rock music
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): still rezzing. sigh
Zen (zen.arado): it started last week though
Eos Amaterasu: long wave acoustics caused by shifting tectonics
Chiff Chaff (dr42): Ah, part 2.
Zen (zen.arado): just got around to it
Zen (zen.arado): yes
Zen (zen.arado): didn't do part 1 though
Eden Haiku: Metamorphose is the verb right?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes, active
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I've been having some trouble sleeping and yet eyes tired so I've been listening to the fiction of relationships lectures
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): Ineresting?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): nice that one can do that... slice out what capable of eating only
Sunshine (szavanna): Liz ❤
Zen (zen.arado): hmm sounds interesting too
Eden Haiku: The fiction of relationships Eliza? Tell us more?
Catrinamonblue: listens
Sunshine (szavanna): hi San :)
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): Hi San
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): very... have read jane eyre and yet found the conversations in class illuminating
Bleu (bleu.oleander): I really enjoyed the ones on Kafka's Metamorphoses
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): G'day San
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Bleu has been taking that course
Zen (zen.arado): gosh don't tell me about any more courses or I won't have time for anything
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hi San :)
Zen (zen.arado): Hi San
Bleu (bleu.oleander): am now listening to Woolf's "to the lighthouse"
Bleu (bleu.oleander): loved that book :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): those are brilliant (like I said, no sleeping :P)
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): who is reading it?
Chiff Chaff (dr42): Zen, so many classes, so little time...
San (santoshima): hello everyone :)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): hi San
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): that's all you have to do Zen... no sleep and lots of time for classes, lol
Sunshine (szavanna): true Maude °͜°
Eden Haiku: I'm stressing about a a day long workshop un titled "Anti-Stress" next week:)
Zen (zen.arado): doing courses has been an addiction I'm trying to kick
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): hahaha
Zen (zen.arado): but just one more
Eden Haiku: In RL that is :)
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Aww
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I hope you 'achieve' nonstress Eden
Eden Haiku: Nice koan Eliza :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): /me smiles
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): we all need a little stress
Zen (zen.arado): sounds like song
Bleu (bleu.oleander): don't stress about stress lol
Eden Haiku: Yes... a song!
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): nice stress
Chiff Chaff (dr42): Useful Genetics, Computational Methods for Data Analysis, The Camera Never Lies, Maps and the Geospatial Revolution, Think Again: How to Reason and Argue
Bleu (bleu.oleander): haha
Zen (zen.arado): Reason and Aegue I can do without
Eden Haiku: Hi santoshima:)
Zen (zen.arado): argue
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): san is dancing on the spot
San (santoshima): drat stuck cursor
Chiff Chaff (dr42): I prefer Non-Violent Communications, personally.
Eden Haiku: Ah yes, that,s wonderful! Have you seen Rosenberg's 3 hours long video on NVC on You TUbe?
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): yes
San (santoshima): yes
Eos Amaterasu: tl;dw
Eden Haiku: I love it!
Chiff Chaff (dr42): No, I'll have to get it...
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): grins at San
Eden Haiku: Almost took a workshop of NVC in RL but the trainers were too stessed-out to m y taste...
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): lol
Catrinamonblue: :)
San (santoshima): seems about right
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): does seem like something people could get perfectionistic about, oddly
San (santoshima): fetishize, perhaps
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Hi Yak
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): Yes, I took a couple but found it very difficult to apply theory to practice
Sunshine (szavanna): hi Yaku
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): but I enjoyed the videos too
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): /me nods
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hi Ya!
Zen (zen.arado): Hi Yaku
Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): hey everyone
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): Yaku/Snoopy !
Eden Haiku: Yaku metamorphed into Snoopy ? Hi Yak!à
San (santoshima): hi Yaku
Korel Laloix: Rl calls.. take care all.
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): /me waves Kori
Bleu (bleu.oleander): hi Yaku
Eden Haiku: And there is the yellow little bord too, Yellowstone I think?
Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): bye kori
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): bye Korel
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Bye K
San (santoshima): ciao korel
Bleu (bleu.oleander): bye Kori
Eden Haiku: Bye Korel...
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): which is least violent for second topic... time, or music?
Korel Laloix: ciao all
Zen (zen.arado): bye Kori
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): the topic of time sounds interesting- a rather large one however
Bleu (bleu.oleander): Sunji and Zenji, are you still doing your music sessions on friday?
Catrinamonblue: gtg sry guys :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): k, bye Cat
Eden Haiku: So large that anything goes which makes it a no-fail topic:)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): bye Cat
San (santoshima): bye cat
Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): bye cat
Eden Haiku: Bye Catrina!
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): maybe we could pull at the edges, Aph
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): waves at Cat
Zen (zen.arado): yes Bleu
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): it IS a big topic but we have a lot to work with on the wiki too
Zen (zen.arado): bye Cat
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): pulling at the edges of time....nice sounding tittle
Chiff Chaff (dr42): Well, cut a slice off of the Time topic.
Eden Haiku: Work on the wiki, what do you mean?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): oh, just that we have 'old' sessions
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Eden Haiku: Oh oh...I see...
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): or suggested subjects
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): well, a few angles
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and lots of openness
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): maybe we can break time down into past, present,future
Eden Haiku: By the way, we don't make the 90 seconds break during guardians sessions? i didn't remember that...
Chiff Chaff (dr42): I still like perception of time and our memory.
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): No bell Edie
Zen (zen.arado): I do a DJ sessiom from 2pm to around 3.30,4 pm Fridays and Sunji does a session with a live guitarist at her place from 4 pm
Bleu (bleu.oleander): maybe time with a focus on the 90 sec breaks?
Eden Haiku: Ah, just our inner practice then (humm humm...)
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Hummm
Eliza (eliza.madrigal) shakes head... sometimes the bell is heard but we've never had it here
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): would be nice
Sunshine (szavanna): :)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): inner practice ... I like that
Eden Haiku: Ah yes, that would be nice Bleu. A real sharp focus on what we do in sessions anyway...
Eden Haiku: Time as it shows up in the 90 seconds break.
Bleu (bleu.oleander): it's a theme in a way from to the lighthouse
San (santoshima): yes, eden!
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): nice!!
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): smiles
Eos Amaterasu: 90 seconds over time
Eden Haiku: At this morning session, time seemed to be stretching very very wide during the pause for me. I realized I missed it.
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): mmm
Bleu (bleu.oleander): time as wide expanse of space
Eden Haiku: I missed the collective silence, the breaking of the impulse to talk/type,...
San (santoshima): ty, was just about to ask 'missed what'
Eden Haiku: Oh that is beautiful Bleu: time as a wide expanse of time. Almsot an haiku. You are already in your poetry workshop :)
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): Is collective silence more silent than individual silence?
Bleu (bleu.oleander): "all the being and the doing, expansive, glittering, vocal, evaporated; and one shrunk, with a sense of solemnity, to being oneself, a wedge-shaped core of darkness, something invisible to others." from "to the lighthouse"
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): beautiful
Bleu (bleu.oleander): :) Eden
Eden Haiku: Also missed becoming suddenly aware of the the presence of the RL beings at their computers behind the avatars,,,
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): who have missed you... as well as the pauses it seems
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): :-)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes :)
Eden Haiku: So glad to be here this morning:)
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): So glad to see you here
Bleu (bleu.oleander): ((( Eden )))
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): come back again
Zen (zen.arado): and stay :)
Eden Haiku: Yes, I will try to come back more often:)
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Yay
Sunshine (szavanna): :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): so it seems we have an open plan, a light scheme, for weeks ahead
San (santoshima): Is there a first topic chosen already?
Second Life: Ari is online.
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): metamorphose
Eos Amaterasu: verb?
San (santoshima): noun
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): could be the noun
Zen (zen.arado): means change I thought
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): metamorphosis
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): suppose could be either... I hear active
Eden Haiku: Snoopy didn't metamorphose Yaku's speaking patterns it seems:)
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): transformation
Eos Amaterasu: morphose?
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): Hey Wol!
Bleu (bleu.oleander): hey Wol
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Wollie ♥
Zen (zen.arado): comes from morphos
Sunshine (szavanna): Wollie °͜°
Wol Euler: afternoon, all! sorry I'm late
Eden Haiku: Hi Wol:) Beaming you a big smile!
Zen (zen.arado): Hi Wol
Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): hey wol :)
San (santoshima): greetings wol
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hi Wol :)
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): Big smiles all round
Chiff Chaff (dr42): Whenever the new announcement are under the session board is put up, please remove the yellow sticky I left there.
Eden Haiku: Snoopy is typing madly: It was by a dark stormy night... Yes Yaku?
Eos Amaterasu: any context for the "metamorphose" topic?
Zen (zen.arado): remembers metamorphic rock but can't remember how it was formed
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): yes. It could be anything
Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): hmm, don´t know i was looking normal to me when i stopped typing, was thinking of answering before
San (santoshima): what was the yellow sticky, chiff?
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): Pressure?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): it came up on the last few weeks sessions... springing from readings I think
Eden Haiku: Dear (((Yaku))), I love you so much!!!
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): Igneous, sedimentary...
Chiff Chaff (dr42): It says "July", I stuck it over the word "June"
Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus) gives eden a big hug :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Eos Amaterasu: Yaku's Snoopy is a theriomorphism
San (santoshima): true
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): a what?
Eos Amaterasu: animal form
Zen (zen.arado): change of form
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): ah
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Morphogenesis is good too
San (santoshima): how about "change"
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): not zoomorphism?
Chiff Chaff (dr42): the worship of deities that are partly animal and partly human in form
Bleu (bleu.oleander): like Kafka :)
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): change is a bit simpler
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Good old Kaf
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): transformation is closest I think
Eos Amaterasu: morphism connotes change of form
Bleu (bleu.oleander): Snoopy as deity
Zen (zen.arado): we metamorphose to an avatar?
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): we transform into an avatar
Zen (zen.arado): from flesh to pixels
Eden Haiku: Meta means over (like another level) and morphos means form, I think the greek ethymology makes metamorphose more full of possibilities than "change",
San (santoshima): could we just say yes to the topic? anything else on the agenda?
Eos Amaterasu: yes
Zen (zen.arado): yes
San (santoshima): ty
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Yes to the topic
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): Metamorphosis is a biological process by which an animal physically develops after birth or hatching, involving a conspicuous and relatively abrupt change in the animal's body structure through cell growth and differentiation.
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): :-)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): for the sign maker .... what are the two topics?
Eden Haiku: Yes to the topic
Chiff Chaff (dr42): Ah, to sleep, perchance to dream....
Zen (zen.arado): caterpillar to butterfly
Eos Amaterasu: metamorphose, and 90 seconds of time
Eos Amaterasu: (or something like that)
San (santoshima): good enough
Bleu (bleu.oleander): ok ty!
Eden Haiku: Yes, linking it to the 90 secs would be great!
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): time as it shows up in the 90 seconds
Eden Haiku: We morph during the break don't we?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): or as shows up, - it
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Didn't Ovid do it too?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): ?
Eden Haiku: yes he does!
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): yes he did
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Ah, thought so
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): indeed Eden, the whole world changes
Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes, reading that atm
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Ty
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): that's a coincidence Bleu
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Hello Rosie :)
Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): hey rosatta
Eden Haiku: Yes, it renews itself, it refreshes as when we refresh our screen :)
Rosatta: Hi, AGatha : )
San (santoshima): greetings rosatta
Bleu (bleu.oleander): in the zeitgeist
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hi Rosatta :)
Rosatta: Hello, San : )
Eden Haiku: Hi Rosatta, nice to meet you :)
Sunshine (szavanna): hi Rosie
Sunshine (szavanna): °͜°
Rosatta: He, Eliza, Eden, Sunshine : )
Rosatta: Nice to meet you, too, Eden, ty
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Rosatta: Hi, Yaku : )
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Are there other guardian matters or questions to raise?
Bleu (bleu.oleander): Rosattadatta :)
Zen (zen.arado): Hi Rosatta
Rosatta: lol, Hi, Bleu : )
Rosatta: Hi, Zen : )
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Rosie did your email probs get sorted out?
Eden Haiku: So we have 2 topics: metamorphose and time for next week, is that it?
Rosatta: Yes, ty
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Ah good
Eden Haiku: Sorry, I'm a bit out of touch lately (to say the least :)
Rosatta: I would like to ask about something
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Please do
Bleu (bleu.oleander): fire away
Rosatta: A couple of the sessions have gotten so negative with racial topics that people are leaving. What is appropriate?
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): 0.0
San (santoshima): what were the nature of the comments
Eden Haiku: 0.0
San (santoshima): or what were the dates/times so others can check
Rosatta: There was a lot of bitterness from one or two people
Wol Euler: what sessions were these, please?
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Which particular sessions?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): in general there are no 'off' topics, and yet there is a way of being with topics
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Snap
Eos Amaterasu: ?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): but always also, personalities
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): let me find the wiki guide
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): I have found Malinson to be very difficult
San (santoshima): oh?
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Oh our blue friend
Bleu (bleu.oleander): respectful of each other at a minimum
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): yes
San (santoshima): difficult how?
Rosatta: My last WEdnesday session there were three people that left because of the anger and hatred being expressed towards 'the dominant race'
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): I'll take a look at that
Wol Euler: so wednesday 7pm?
San (santoshima): ditto
Rosatta: But this has happened before, just last Wednesday was the most intense
Rosatta: Wed 1 pm
San (santoshima): date?
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Ok Ty
San (santoshima): july 10th?
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): wednesday evenings?
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): or at 1?
Rosatta: the 10th at 1 pm SL time
Eos Amaterasu: https://wiki.playasbeing.org/Chat_Logs/2013/07/2013.07.10_13%3a00_-_Distress_expressed_and_wishes_for_world_harmony ?
San (santoshima): ty
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): here is one: https://wiki.playasbeing.org/About_PlayAsBeing/About_Our_Meetings
Rosatta: Last Wednesday, as a white woman, I felt the need to express that there is racism that goes both ways. But I will not defend myself in this again.
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): from time to time frictions between people come up
Rosatta: I am just not sure what to do to move the sessions to a more Zen-like mood, which is where I believe they are supposed to be
Chiff Chaff (dr42): I am embaressed to see that I was there yet did not sense the anger.
Rosatta: And where I prefer them, personally
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): but yes there is a question of base vision of the group
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): spirit of acceptance
Rosatta: I did my best to steer the discussion to a more positive light such as living in what is rather than raging at what was, and I seemed to end on a better note,
Rosatta: But this is becoming rather frequent and I feel badly about the people who left due to the atmosphere
Rosatta: I spoke to one and she said she had to leave.
Rosatta: She is Indian - from India - and she has been the victim of racism
Eliza (eliza.madrigal) nods... always hard when that happens - very hard to recover after there is that kind of impression
Rosatta: But she wants to live in a harmonious mental state and couldn't be in a session that was mostly anger
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): Are we saying that we shouldt talk about difficult topics?
Rosatta: I dont' know if she will return
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Well if someone is being out and out offensive the GoC always has the option to eject
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): no Aph, not at all
San (santoshima): could you point to the part of the text that you feel is problematic, Rosatta?
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): I think it is imporrant to get these issues aired
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): I've never needed that personally
Bleu (bleu.oleander) slips out quietly ... RL calls .... take care all :)
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Bye Bleuji
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): bye Bleu :)
Zen (zen.arado): byee Bleu
Sunshine (szavanna): take care Bleuji ;))
Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): bye bleu
Rosatta: Take care, Bllue : )
Wol Euler: bye bleu, take care
Bleu (bleu.oleander): nice to see you Eden
Bleu (bleu.oleander): bye all :)
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): as long as it's done in a respectful way
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): Bye Bleeu
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): that's the heart... the way of discussion
Eden Haiku: Someone from India, how wonderful. Hope she will return. Sorry you had to live through that kind of session Rosatta...Will read it.
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and that's what the guardian does
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): yes- it takes courage and skill
Zen (zen.arado): it can be tricky because what seems innocuous to one person can be offensive to another
Eden Haiku: IT seems you moved in in the right direction at the end so it finished on a happier note so that's good :)
Chiff Chaff (dr42): Rosatta, I sent you an IM.
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): I find that when people get to me I find it hard to be impartial
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Thank you for bringing it to the group's attention Rosie
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes, thank you
Wol Euler: /me nods.
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): yes, thanks Rosie
Eden Haiku: Yes, thanks.
Rosatta: : )
Eden Haiku: Won't be coming on Wednesdays nights anyway, phewww... Dance class in RL :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): am not quite on the ball today but would like to focus a bit more strongly on the question beneath this question, wider vision etc
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): Nice calling Eden
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :) that's one way to diffuse tension
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): can get up and dance
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): yes- the onigokku
Eden Haiku: Yepp!!
Aggers (agatha.macbeth) grins
Rosatta: lol That would have helped
Eden Haiku: Grins
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Rosatta: The 90 second pause is really helpful in these things
Eden Haiku: Yes, true.
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): release the hot air build-up
Zen (zen.arado): yes important to observe it then
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): nods... and sometimes a guardian can draw out the pause longer
San (santoshima): perhaps you could pose questions about how to handle difficulties in role of GOC with Stevenaia who is the mentor
Eden Haiku: It metamorphoses the negative energies...
San (santoshima): his/her title is
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): that's a good idea San
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): smiles at Eden
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): transforms them into energy
Rosatta: It helps when people come with a desire to gently explore thoughts rather than with rigid determination of their own world-view
Eden Haiku: Into love, yes.
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Agree with that Rosie
Rosatta: I find those sessions are a wonderful place to be and I learn a lot
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): always Rosatta!
Chiff Chaff (dr42)is deeply disturbed.
Eden Haiku: Yes, it is a deep learning process.
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): why?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): thank you Rosatta... there IS a difference between pab and a philosophy or political forum
San (santoshima): i don't see thea problem in the text, rosatta, so i am not sure why you've brought this particular text forward
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and yet we don't exclude whatever comes up if we can help it
Eden Haiku: Because you didn't feel the same about that session Chiff?
Rosatta: And though the world is full of injustice and horror, I don't find that focusing a session on those things is probably very helpful unless it is exploring solutions on how to live on a personal level without fixing the whole world - which isn't possible at this time
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): why are you deeply disturbed Chiff Chaff?
Zen (zen.arado): it's a fine line
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): texts don't always pick up the energy, especially if one is acting in guardian role and feels responsible
Wol Euler nods.
San (santoshima): true enough
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): 'It's only words'
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): each has their own way of sort of working with the energy perhaps
Chiff Chaff (dr42): My perception of the session was totally different, and clearly wrong.
Rosatta: I did some editing, San. this was the first one I felt it better to do so
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): looks at Chiff Chaff
Rosatta: Chiff, three people left
Wol Euler: tell us, chiff
Rosatta: One told me directly she left due to the topic and the atmosphere
Eos Amaterasu listens
San (santoshima): yes, so we understand
Wol Euler: people leave all the time, zon in particular always leaves. So two.
Sunshine (szavanna): byebyeee all gotta go
Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): bye sunshine
Wol Euler: bye sun, take care
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): /me waves to Sun
Zen (zen.arado): bye Sunji
Sunshine (szavanna): have a great week :))
Eos Amaterasu: suneee :-)
Eden Haiku: Bye Sunshine.
Rosatta: Peace and blessings Sunshine
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Take care bokkie :)
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): we havent heard from Chiff
Wol Euler: /me listens.
Eden Haiku: listens
Rosatta: Kit left from one meeting and won't be back, as far as I know
Chiff Chaff (dr42) listens, too.
Rosatta: Both were friend I invited and were at PaB for the first time
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): what was your impression Chiff?
Rosatta: Kit attended a previous one
Eden Haiku: Still have to read this session. so
Chiff Chaff (dr42): no. As is said, dispassionate discourse.
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): ?
San (santoshima): your friend came on your invitation and then left, disgruntled due to the topic and way the discussion went, did I get that right?
Rosatta: San, what are you wanting to know?
San (santoshima): wanting to know if i'm undersatnding what you are saying
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :) have invited people who come and then IM me "I thought you said it was a meditative group"
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Aggers (agatha.macbeth)me grins
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): interesting
Rosatta: Would you mind giving me the link to the session? I'm slow at finding these things?
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Meditation with onigokko
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): /me smiles
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes
Aph (aphrodite.macbain): lol
Eden Haiku: Yepp, Guilty of many charges :(((
Rosatta: Well, I like the "Play" in PaB :-D
Eos Amaterasu: https://wiki.playasbeing.org/Chat_Logs/2013/07/2013.07.10_13:00_-_Distress_expressed_and_wishes_for_world_harmony ?
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Anyway, I have to shoot off to a class
Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Take care
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