The Guardian for this meeting was Zen Arado. The comments are by Zen Arado.

Riddle Sideways: Rolling Reboot musta happened
Riddle Sideways: Hi Ewan
Riddle Sideways: Must have been a rolling reboot go through. couple of ppl over at the Cafe
Riddle Sideways: did you have any problems logging in today?
Ewan Bonham: There seems to be few people on sl at the moment..
Ewan Bonham: No, I did not..
Ewan Bonham: Were there people here before?
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: when region is not available, av gets sent to a very populated waiting area
Ewan Bonham: Were there more folks here before?
Riddle Sideways: Xir and Zen at least were here and ran to the Cafe
Ewan Bonham: Why did they run thwere?
Riddle Sideways: there usually is a region reboot at this time each week
Ewan Bonham: Oh, I see
Riddle Sideways: the sim stops existance
Riddle Sideways: then gensis again
Riddle Sideways: Hi Bleu
Riddle Sideways: so, what are you up to, lately?
Ewan Bonham: H Bleu..
Riddle Sideways: Hi Bleu
Bleu Oleander: hi Ewan, Riddle
Riddle Sideways: zen and Xir took the discussion to the Cafe
--BELL--
Bleu Oleander: I think they're coming back
Riddle Sideways: bye Ewan
Riddle Sideways: who poofed
Riddle Sideways: ah
Bleu Oleander: hi Xiri
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Rid:)
Riddle Sideways: Hi Xir
Xirana Oximoxi: Hi Bleu again:)
Bleu Oleander: hi again Zen
Riddle Sideways: have we missed the chat?
Zen Arado: Hi all
Riddle Sideways: do you have all the rules sorted out
Zen Arado: heh
Zen Arado: just started on 1
Riddle Sideways: wb Ewan
Zen Arado: not sure what it means
Zen Arado: Hi ewan
Ewan Bonham: hio fols..
Xirana Oximoxi: well..we have been talikng about different subjects... weather, scripting, art projects, energy to do things... and now we started about the rules San has proposed
Zen Arado: so everything is an experiment?
Zen Arado: good rule for SL
Riddle Sideways: Sans Rules
Riddle Sideways: like it
Bleu Oleander: :)
Zen Arado: withour rules ?
Zen Arado: without
Riddle Sideways: already done that
Bleu Oleander: rule number 1 ... there are no rules hehe
Xirana Oximoxi: :))
Riddle Sideways: rule 2: disregard rule 1
Bleu Oleander: haha
Zen Arado: I don't trust anywhere
Bleu Oleander: really?
Zen Arado: trust involves setting expectations
Zen Arado: raher just see what happens
Zen Arado: trust is a kind of freezing isn't it?
Xirana Oximoxi: I also see some kind of contradiction in rule 5
Zen Arado: wanting something or someone to behave a certain way
Zen Arado: yes following or doing it yourself
Xirana Oximoxi: and I agree completely with rule 7: RULE SEVEN: The only rule is work. If you work it will lead to something. It’s the people who do all of the work all of the time who eventually catch on to things.
Bleu Oleander: trust can allow you to relax
Zen Arado: well ok but you could work at the wrong thing?
Zen Arado: hmm yes Bleu
Xirana Oximoxi: it's the same for painting...you find good results if you paint...if you stay waitng for the inspiration to come ..nothing happens
Zen Arado: not always on edge
Bleu Oleander: yes Xiri
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Bleu Oleander: have to move the paint around!
Zen Arado: trust your intuition?
Zen Arado: they need a little more explanation
Bleu Oleander: sometimes your intuition is off
Zen Arado: can you be too self disciplined?
Bleu Oleander: have to correct it
Xirana Oximoxi: Read anything you can get your hands on. ?? there are a lot of book that we can live without reading
Zen Arado: yeh not always right
Bleu Oleander: how to choose what to read
Bleu Oleander: good question
Zen Arado: one of my problems too many books I want to read
Bleu Oleander: limited amount of reading time
Xirana Oximoxi: yes, good question Bleu:)
Riddle Sideways: reading and disgreeing with it could be constructive
Bleu Oleander: yes, true
Xirana Oximoxi: yes
Zen Arado: oh yes Riddle...reading critically
Bleu Oleander: shouldn't only read what you agree with
Zen Arado: when I did philosophy we were taught to read first sympathetically to get the full meaning and then read critically
Xirana Oximoxi: interesting way of reading and learning
Bleu Oleander: my problem is remember all that I read!
Zen Arado: if you start critically you will miss a lot of what the author tries to convey
Bleu Oleander: have to re-read some
Xirana Oximoxi: I have to reread a lot Bleu...
Zen Arado: many books worth reading a few times
Zen Arado: but I want to move to something new all the time
Bleu Oleander: when we read we bring ourselves to the reading ... hard not to read critically
--BELL--
Zen Arado: I can be too sympathetic
Bleu Oleander: bye for now ... take care :)
Zen Arado: tc Bleu
Xirana Oximoxi: bye bye Bleu..have a nice day
Ewan Bonham: Bye... folks..
Zen Arado: byee Ewan
Xirana Oximoxi: bye Ewan:) tc too:)
Xirana Oximoxi: and Rid:)
Zen Arado: and Riddle :)
Xirana Oximoxi: are these rules very famous?
Zen Arado: we can work too hard too maybe Xiri
Zen Arado: don't think so
Zen Arado: somebody made them up
Xirana Oximoxi: what do you mean, 'work hard'? Zen?
Zen Arado: try to do too much
Xirana Oximoxi: ahh yes... that's not goo either
Zen Arado: a life that is all work
Xirana Oximoxi: better try to do less and enjoy more...no hurry:)
Zen Arado: I find it hard to sit and watch a film
Zen Arado: I think I should be doing something more constructive
Xirana Oximoxi: because you have a 'creative' personality...you prefer doing:)
Zen Arado: but then I get so tired
Xirana Oximoxi: but it's also important to be lazy
Zen Arado: we can be bad judges of ourselves
Xirana Oximoxi: to be lazy is useful to restar our activities with more energy
Zen Arado: pity we can't do a meditation retreat in SL
Xirana Oximoxi: yes.... we can be the most strict judges about ourselves...until a level is good, but not excessive
Xirana Oximoxi: you did once ..I remember...was it not a good experience?
Xirana Oximoxi: I mean... not similar to sharing it in RL?
Zen Arado: yes but we talked all the time
Zen Arado: I mean a silent one
Xirana Oximoxi: ahhh lol
Riddle Sideways: bye all, ... rule 12 = have your best day
Xirana Oximoxi: I thought you did a meditation retreat in SL :)
Zen Arado: kk byee Riddle
Xirana Oximoxi: bye bye Rid! you too have a nice day:)
Zen Arado: there was some meditation but not much
Xirana Oximoxi: yes... it's not easy here:)
Zen Arado: many of them not used to meditation
Xirana Oximoxi: I am not used to it..I've never done
Zen Arado: only 10 minutes or so
Zen Arado: maybe you don't need to
Xirana Oximoxi: but after I finish my studies I've thought I will try to learn... I see it can bring a lot od benefits
Zen Arado: usually if people say that they never do it
Xirana Oximoxi: hehe:))
Zen Arado: we never have time
Xirana Oximoxi: yes, you're right:)
Zen Arado: actually it is just sitting quietlt and not doing anything
Zen Arado: but people add so many things to it
Zen Arado: quietly
Zen Arado: but so hard to find time to do that
Zen Arado: so many distractions
Xirana Oximoxi: it's also imporatnt to learn how to stay comfortable
Zen Arado: yes
Xirana Oximoxi: sitting in a good position?
Zen Arado: don't think it matters so much
Zen Arado: just comfortable as you said
Xirana Oximoxi: I never find the 10 minutes everyday to make some Gimm... :)
Xirana Oximoxi: gymnastique
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Zen Arado: you are active in your life though
Xirana Oximoxi: but thanks to my dogs I go walking 2 or 3 times everyday:)
Zen Arado: exactly
Xirana Oximoxi: yes:)
Zen Arado: that is a kind of meditation
Xirana Oximoxi: well... it can be seen like a kind of meditation...but I have no purpose in doing it
Xirana Oximoxi: amy mind jumps from thought to though
Xirana Oximoxi: thought
Zen Arado: that is meditatio...not having a purpose
Zen Arado: not trying to get anywhere
Zen Arado: just allowing yourself to be as you are
Zen Arado: and enjoying your dogs
--BELL--
Xirana Oximoxi: yes...in that sense it's what I do:9
Xirana Oximoxi: it has becvome a kind of rule in my life...if one day it rains I try to go anyway..if not something is missng to feel well...
Zen Arado: yes
Xirana Oximoxi: I must go now Zen! thanks a lot for this nice time chatting:)
Zen Arado: I used to walk my dog from an electric wheelchair
Zen Arado: kk thanks for coming Xirana !
Xirana Oximoxi: oh you explain to me next time:)
Xirana Oximoxi: you're welcome:)
Zen Arado: sure :)
Xirana Oximoxi: bye bye:)
Zen Arado: byee