2013.07.29 13:00 - No Sims Could Say That

The Guardian for this meeting was Eliza Madrigal. The comments are by Eliza Madrigal.

--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal: Hi Rosatta :)
Rosatta Resident: Hi, Eliza. Are those fireflies?
Eliza Madrigal: they're "starbloom"
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Rosatta Resident: I like them : )
Eliza Madrigal: me too... I think that they're a Sunshine invention
Eliza Madrigal: just discovered them in my inventory
Rosatta Resident: It looks like you have your own cloud of fireflies - very fairy-ish and magical : )
Eliza Madrigal: hotaru ^.^


Eliza Madrigal: how are you doing today?
Rosatta Resident: I have forgotten, what are times of silence for this session?
Eliza Madrigal: in the beginning, I tried to stretch pauses to be at least 5 minutes, but have been letting that go mostly
Eliza Madrigal: seemed a little confusing for everyone to keep track of
Rosatta Resident: lol I guess we need that little red, glowing ring as a reminder
Eliza Madrigal: :) bells and whistles and rings indications
Rosatta Resident: Yes : )

Rosatta Resident: I read the GM sessions for the topics but this week's has slipped my mind
Eliza Madrigal: we chose "games and gaming" this week, springing from Bleu's session
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Zon :)
Rosatta Resident: Hi, Zon, nice to see you
Eliza Madrigal: do you play games, online and off?
Zon Kwan: hi

Eliza Madrigal: actually, today I have been engaging in a exercise we used to do as a group quite a lot
Eliza Madrigal: and sometimes pick up again for SL retreats
Eliza Madrigal: "You Seeing Being Seeing"

Zon Kwan: games..interesting
Eliza Madrigal: are you a gamer Zon?
Zon Kwan: yes
Eliza Madrigal: what sorts?
Rosatta Resident: I have a 'game' I play with my half-grown kitten. He jumps up on the table with the bird cages and I shut him in the bedroom for 10 minutes. It was supposed to be a deterrent, but he seems to have turned it into a '3 seconds of attention game'
Zon Kwan: life game
Eliza Madrigal: :)

--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal: do you really view life as a game, Zon?
Zon Kwan: i try very hard
Zon Kwan: makes it more interesting
Rosatta Resident: I like Steve Irwin's attitude towards life - a joyful adventure
Zon Kwan: makes learning more efficient
Zon Kwan: and fun
Rosatta Resident: Love the word fun :-D
Zon Kwan: yes rosatta

Eliza Madrigal: I think that makes sense... so to approach life as a game gives some distance
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Agatha :)
Zon Kwan: people play games all the time
Agatha Macbeth enters quietly
Zon Kwan: they are just not aware
Agatha Macbeth: Herro Liz
Rosatta Resident: Hi, Agatha : )
Zon Kwan: which makes them take things too seriously
Eliza Madrigal: that was my thought also Zon... that often it is in retrospect one sees the game that was going on
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Rosie
Zon Kwan: hi aga
Agatha Macbeth: and zon

Eliza Madrigal: one question that came up was, are all games zero sum?
Eliza Madrigal: particularly interesting question when looking at the way one lives their life on the whole
Rosatta Resident: What does 'zero sum' mean?
Zon Kwan: no
Eliza Madrigal: it means that everything has to even out, basically
Zon Kwan: otherwise we would nto be playing
Eliza Madrigal: that to gain something here one has to take something from there
Rosatta Resident: Hmmm . . . I hope not

Zon Kwan: the gain is the fun of playing and learning
Rosatta Resident: Yes
Eliza Madrigal waves :)
Rosatta Resident: And to think that someone, some place or something is being 'robbed' by my gain is a distressing thought
Zon Kwan: so interesting, sry i must go

Eliza Madrigal: Hi Eden! :)
Rosatta Resident: Hi, Eden : )
Agatha Macbeth: Be Zon hi Edie
Eden Haiku: hi:)
Agatha Macbeth: Bye*

Eliza Madrigal: we've been talking about games and gaming... and Zon said that he tries to aproach life that way, as a game
Eliza Madrigal: Rosie as an adventure :)

Agatha Macbeth: Seem to faries floating around
Eliza Madrigal: ^^ starbloom
Agatha Macbeth: Bless you
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Maude :)
Agatha Macbeth: Hello
DR42 Resident: ηαмαѕтє
Eden Haiku: Thanks for the summaRY ELIZA.
Rosatta Resident: Well, one of my role models - Steve Irwin lived life as one great, delightful adventure. I would like to have that attitude.
Rosatta Resident: Hi, Maude : )
Eliza Madrigal: me too... leaves room for a bit of mischief
Agatha Macbeth: 0.0

Eden Haiku: is games the topic?
Eliza Madrigal: the week's topic yes, but we can talk about anything really
Eden Haiku: No no, that's perfect...
Eden Haiku: It,s so much synchronicity, I'm amazed...
Eliza Madrigal: yes?
Eden Haiku: Been playing the Sims in the laST FEW DAYS.
Agatha Macbeth smiles
Eden Haiku: a friend told me about that game, I TRIED...
Eden Haiku: And realized it IS very boring...
Eliza Madrigal laughs... yes it can be, especially in comparison to something open ended like SL
DR42 Resident: The original "Sims"?
Eliza Madrigal: I played that with my daughters years ago... before SL
Agatha Macbeth: Animal Crossing is cute
Eliza Madrigal: it is, they like that too
Eliza Madrigal: and Harvest Moon
Eden Haiku: no flying, no teleportation... you keep planting pepper bells and buying stuff...
Eliza Madrigal giggles
Agatha Macbeth: Tom Nook

Eden Haiku: Made me miss you guys...
Agatha Macbeth: We missed you too
Eliza Madrigal: aw, well then that's a wonderful twist
Agatha Macbeth: And your colourful logs
Eliza Madrigal: :)
DR42 Resident: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sims#The_Sims ?

--BELL--

Rosatta Resident: There is always something new to explore in SL
Eden Haiku: It helped me cope. I needed to occupy my mind. My brother's house burnt down to ashes and I was so sad and worried about him. But they are all safe, even the 17 yo cat...
Eliza Madrigal: dear god Eden I'm so sorry
Agatha Macbeth: Oh dear
Eliza Madrigal: thank goodness all okay
Eden Haiku: Yes, it is very sad.
Rosatta Resident: The other day I found some drive-able shopping carts and had fun . . .

Rosatta Resident: I am glad every one is ok
Rosatta Resident: I hope they can recover financially. Do they have insurance help?
Rosatta Resident: But sentimental thing are gone forever : (
Eden Haiku: Yes they do. But we re going to offer help until then, my other brother and I.
Eliza Madrigal: family banding together
Agatha Macbeth: What caused the fire?
Eden Haiku: Yes and a lot of my parents's furniture, He was the only one to have room enough: he had a huge house in the woods, by a big lake...
Eden Haiku: All the memories gone; the grandfather's clock...
Eliza Madrigal: very difficult

Rosatta Resident: I must go. My wishes for them go out
Eliza Madrigal: bye Rosatta :) nice to see you
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Rosie tc

Eden Haiku: Lightning stroke the house at dawn. They were up, saying goodbye to my niece and her husband ...Bye Rosatta...
Agatha Macbeth: Good grief
Eliza Madrigal: world changes in a flash
Agatha Macbeth: An act of god

Eden Haiku: So playing the Sims for a few days helped me think about silly things like falling asleep in a neighbor,s bathtub instead of too much thinking...
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Eden Haiku: That's very true Elia: our world can change in a flash.
Eliza Madrigal: yes I really get that... frivolity as therapy
Agatha Macbeth: 'A little less levity Stanley'

Eden Haiku: It made me appreciate my life even more and I feel suddenly so close to my youngest brother, I see him as child, as he was as a child. His tiny fingers when my mother came back from the hospital...
Agatha Macbeth nods
Eliza Madrigal: that's an amazing memory to go back to...
Eliza Madrigal: did you feel displacement when he was born? I felt that, when my sister was born... so beautiful
Eden Haiku: Yes, it all comes back to me in-between sessions of planting carrots and being kind on the Sims :)à

Eden Haiku: Displacement Eliza? I,m not sure what you mean?
Eliza Madrigal: hm... just thinking of what older siblings sometimes feel with new arrivals
Eliza Madrigal: curiosity, love, and loss of place... search for footing
DR42 Resident was the youngest of 6, and would not understand.
Eliza Madrigal: 6, wow!
Eden Haiku: Ah no, he was a tiny infant and I was already 8. I rather felt protective. I rocked him a lot in a rocking chair when he was little.
Eliza Madrigal smiles

Eden Haiku: Youngest of 6 Maude, you must have played a lot of games when you were little with so many playmates!
DR42 Resident: Exactly the opposite.
Eden Haiku: oh?
DR42 Resident: They wanted little to do with me.

--BELL--

Eden Haiku: How did you feel Maude?
Eliza Madrigal: have heard youngest siblings often are charmers due to stretching to be seen and heard
DR42 Resident: Isolated.
Agatha Macbeth: I-solation
DR42 Resident: When I was little, I was at the mercy of my sisters desires, so I was isolated socially from kids my age.
Eliza Madrigal: a bit lost in the mix then, for your parents?
Eden Haiku: Sorry to hear that Maude...My youngest brother might have feel something like that becacuse the three older ones we were already grown up a bit. I hope he will feel we are closer than he thought during this ordeal... Oh, at the mercy of your sisters desires?
DR42 Resident: Both worked, we were not rich.
DR42 Resident: I have Empathy for your brother.

Eliza Madrigal: there are ways that my oldest had many more resources and energy from parents than by the time my son was born... to a mother dealing with illness, etc
Eliza Madrigal: and yet I think in some ways he was fortunate... a slower mom not dragging him around and obsessing over parties and things :)

Eden Haiku: We really tend to see things through our own filters don't we? As the eldest I always feel responsible and i tend to forget others can feel left out...Thanks for reminding me Maude :)
DR42 Resident: The sister just older than me was extremely ill. She was given only a few years to live.
Eden Haiku: A slower Mom must be lovely for a young boy :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: oh, Maude :(
DR42 Resident: She is in her late 60s, now. Such is the advances of medicine.
Eliza Madrigal: amazing
Eden Haiku: oh wow...
Eliza Madrigal: and yet it must have been difficult... am sure rightfully so much attention went to tending to her needs

Eliza Madrigal: "character" doesn't seem to come easily, eh?
Eden Haiku: Yes, it must have been hard for you Maude.
Eliza Madrigal: you know the comparison between Sims and SL is really striking in that sense... flatland to dimensionality of spontaneity
Eden Haiku: Flatland is a good word yep!!!
DR42 Resident: Well, it was far more difficult for her, I am sure.
Eliza Madrigal: easy to live and do things, accumulate ideas and accomplish objectives.. but something else to live
Eliza Madrigal: alive, I mean :)

Eden Haiku: No feelings, just actions. As silly as going to the toilet, taking showers. Do any of you have showers in SL? Eden never took a single bath...
Eliza Madrigal: :)) I think I took a shower in an art of being project
Agatha Macbeth: In this weather I need lots :p
Eliza Madrigal: but I've taken many baths actually, lol
Eden Haiku: Oh right, I did do. Phewww, Eden is fresh like a rose then :)
Eliza Madrigal: hahah
Eliza Madrigal: we have self-cleaning inventories
Agatha Macbeth: And as sweet as one
Eden Haiku: LOL
Eliza Madrigal: SL can be almost as flat as the Sims some days, and on other days it is such an animated and alive, surprising, synchronous place
DR42 Resident: I have not bathed in 2 years in SL. Please sit far away.
Eliza Madrigal: maybe we should find a turkish bath
Eden Haiku: Pinching her nose....

Agatha Macbeth: The stars keep the air pure
Eden Haiku: Love that Agatha :) Stars keep the air pure. No Sims could say that :) They don't even talk (I play the free one...)
Eliza Madrigal: don't they gurble?
Agatha Macbeth: No talking? Erk

--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal: the girls talk in simlish sometimes
Eliza Madrigal: hm... thought I might have a bath tub but only bird bath...
Eliza Madrigal: :) if we had bird avies we could shrink down and splash around
Agatha Macbeth: Strictly for the birds
DR42 Resident: I like to think I have some very nice perfume.

Eden Haiku: Thanks for the company. It was refreshing talking with real human beings pretending they are avatars :) See you soon, hopefully. Bye Aggers, Eliza, Maude :) Love to you all.
Eliza Madrigal: ah so that's the fragrance wafting this way
Eliza Madrigal: refreshing to see you always dear Eden
Agatha Macbeth: I really *am* an avatar :p
Eden Haiku: Smells good... Bye!
Eliza Madrigal: love to family
DR42 Resident: bye, safe travels, and I hope things work out well,
Agatha Macbeth: A bientot Edie
Agatha Macbeth: Smell well

Eden Haiku: À bien tôt girls :) Avatars and real :)
Eliza Madrigal: :) so many thoughts are rushing through my mind at the moment... real and not
Agatha Macbeth: Glad she's back

DR42 Resident: Do PaB people ever meet in RL?
Eliza Madrigal: many of us have Maude
Agatha Macbeth: Used to
Agatha Macbeth: Doesn't seem to happen now
Eliza Madrigal: for a while we tried to have retreats 4 times a year
Eliza Madrigal: well, one or two years, then down to two meetings..
Eliza Madrigal: some have had meet ups, because they didn't like the idea of retreat
Eliza Madrigal: we had a fund set up also, so that people could receive help to get to retreats

Eliza Madrigal: how many have you met from other groups maude?
DR42 Resident: UUtopia, many, maybe 12, 16 people, and I expect I will meet many more next June.
Eliza Madrigal: nice!
DR42 Resident: Some of the people from there, I see every few weeks, some come to my home and visit for a few days, even.
Eliza Madrigal: have your impressions been on target?
DR42 Resident: Yes.
DR42 Resident: It helps that we use FB to remain in contact all the time.
Eliza Madrigal: here is the link to pages with past PaB meetings: https://wiki.playasbeing.org/Retreats/Past_retreats
DR42 Resident: ty
Eliza Madrigal nods... I wrestle with FB but have to admit it is a good net
Agatha Macbeth: Who wins?
Eliza Madrigal: FB it seems , lol

Eliza Madrigal: the first PaB retreat changed my whole life I think
Agatha Macbeth: For the better hopefully
Eliza Madrigal: well, PaB in general has..
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Eliza Madrigal: yes for the better in most ways

Eliza Madrigal: :) it is never simple I think... forming attachments
DR42 Resident: I feel like such a stranger here sometimes
Agatha Macbeth: Hell no
Eliza Madrigal: I think when I came into SL I'd thought to remain more solitary
Agatha Macbeth: Nor keeping them

Eliza Madrigal: a stranger here in PaB, or SL, Maude?
DR42 Resident: At PaB
DR42 Resident: I found the book of poetry hidden under the floor
Eliza Madrigal: wondered who was playing with that, lol
Agatha Macbeth: Storm buries things
DR42 Resident: It was well hidden
Eliza Madrigal: someone must have been trying to give it to someone else

Eliza Madrigal: so much hidden, so much lost
DR42 Resident: A Buddha brought Eliza to play as being
Agatha Macbeth: Good job it wasn't an onigokko
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Eliza Madrigal: he did... my first friend in SL was named Buddha Nirvana
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Original
Eliza Madrigal: we both liked to sit alone in meditation places

--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal: I wonder if what you feel here Maude, is the lingering sense of nostalgia
DR42 Resident: I have a number of those, one in VAI, one in Dreams, one in UUtopia.
DR42 Resident: Maybe, desire for a past life, or part of the one I never had.
Eliza Madrigal: I feel that too... can relate I think
Eliza Madrigal: sometimes I get full of schemes to begin planning retreats and such again
Eliza Madrigal: but it makes no sense to try to push
Agatha Macbeth: Or pull
Eliza Madrigal: :)) or pull

DR42 Resident: For the UUs, most are located in the New England area, and we also see each other at the annual convocation of all of the congregations each year.
Eliza Madrigal: it makes me happy to know there is such energy for the UUs... the congregation here is rather tired feeling...
Eliza Madrigal: and yet it makes so much sense for our time, the inclusive umbrella
Agatha Macbeth: Art imitating life perhaps
Eliza Madrigal: I tried to go back to the buddhist meeting that they hold, just a few months ago actually
Eliza Madrigal: (RL) and it was hard to break in
Agatha Macbeth: Was the door locked?
Eliza Madrigal: hehe...
Eliza Madrigal: figuratively, yes
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
DR42 Resident: A different UU group? I had not seen you at the one I go to.
Agatha Macbeth: 'Lemme in!'
Eliza Madrigal: I've attended some UUtopia meetings but not for a long time
Eliza Madrigal: I was speaking about the RL group though
DR42 Resident: Ah. Sorry for the confusion.
Eliza Madrigal: UU churches in general
Eliza Madrigal: ours is shaped like a spaceship and attended by really lovely people
Eliza Madrigal: but it is like a time warp to go there... maybe 1971...
Agatha Macbeth: A good year
Eliza Madrigal: :)
DR42 Resident: Near me, most are well over 100 years old.
Agatha Macbeth: The people?
Eliza Madrigal: lol
DR42 Resident: Sometimes, yes...
Agatha Macbeth: Wow
Eliza Madrigal: I love the vision though.... and that sunday school for children means learning about different faiths
Eliza Madrigal: we should all stay in sunday school forever ^.^
DR42 Resident: Mine runs a Sunday school and a K-6 school.
Agatha Macbeth: Eternal sunday
Eliza Madrigal: :)

DR42 Resident: Time for me to cook dinner. I will have to remember to ask storm for a copy of the book. :)
Eliza Madrigal: :) I think Sunshine made them actually
DR42 Resident: OK,
Agatha Macbeth: Sounds like Sun's thing yes
Eliza Madrigal: I don't have a copy either...
Eliza Madrigal: so we will need to pester Sun

Eliza Madrigal: what's for dinner Maude?
Agatha Macbeth: Always fun that
Agatha Macbeth: Tap tap
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Eliza Madrigal: I'm juice fasting so would love to hear food descriptions
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: play as eating
Agatha Macbeth: Juicy Lucy
DR42 Resident: Home made fresh Kielbasa and chicken in a tomato sauce over home made pasta.
Eliza Madrigal sighs.... so want to learn to make pasta....
Agatha Macbeth: Hm that works
Eliza Madrigal: beet ravioli specifically
DR42 Resident: Pastya is EASY.
Eliza Madrigal: I've now got a machine that will grind grains... so it is one of the things on the to do list
DR42 Resident: I have a small manual crank "Pasta Queen" that is a joy to use. Beats the rolling pin.
Eliza Madrigal makes note
Eliza Madrigal: you are the pasta queen... lol....
Eliza Madrigal: wife of spaghetti monster
Eliza Madrigal: :)
DR42 Resident: made in Italy.
Eliza Madrigal: nice
Eliza Madrigal: such a luxury
Agatha Macbeth: I like lasagne

--BELL--

DR42 Resident: http://www.amazon.com/kitchen-dining/dp/B005HZKUVW
Eliza Madrigal: thanks for the link!
DR42 Resident: many attachments... I have the one for ravs
Eliza Madrigal: ohh, have to pay attention to that when buying...
Eliza Madrigal: it is strange to begin to love cooking at 42
DR42 Resident: http://www.amazon.com/Marcato-8323-A...ref=pd_sim_k_9
Eliza Madrigal: what kind of lasagne Aggers?
Agatha Macbeth: Er
Eliza Madrigal: (yikes pricey)
DR42 Resident: Mine is a marcato...
Agatha Macbeth: The usual kind :p
Eliza Madrigal: lol
DR42 Resident: I bought it 30 years ago.
Eliza Madrigal: ah, heirloom then

DR42 Resident: Well, off to cook.
DR42 Resident: bye
Eliza Madrigal: :) bye for now
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Maude, cook well
Eliza Madrigal: :) how is Aggers?

Agatha Macbeth: I swear you never look the sam two times in a row...
Agatha Macbeth: same*
Agatha Macbeth: Are you hiding from someone? :p
Eliza Madrigal: avatar protection program
Agatha Macbeth: Quick change artist
Eliza Madrigal: I enjoy changing
Agatha Macbeth: The sheepdog look
Eliza Madrigal: bangs are hard to keep up with in RL

Agatha Macbeth: The more I change the more I stay the same
Eliza Madrigal: you change dramatically as well.. but more so due to outfits
Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
Eliza Madrigal: was noticing your headpiece
Agatha Macbeth: Well no point in not looking good
Eliza Madrigal: right
Agatha Macbeth: Yes it's nice this...from Emo-tions
Eliza Madrigal: I'd love to get away with ball gowns and jeweled headpieces in daily life...
Agatha Macbeth: I bet you could
Eliza Madrigal: and suppose it is possible, but likely draws some looks :P
Agatha Macbeth: Don't you anyway?
Eliza Madrigal: nah...
Agatha Macbeth: Hard to believe
Eliza Madrigal: back in the day, lol
Agatha Macbeth: Hm

Eliza Madrigal: was thinking about some spiritual teachers who donned various appearances
Eliza Madrigal: to step into ways of being
Agatha Macbeth: Don't think I'm one of those
Eliza Madrigal: kinds of composures
Eliza Madrigal: how differently do you feel from outfit to outfit?
Agatha Macbeth: 'Compose yourself' they said to beethoven
Agatha Macbeth: Er
Agatha Macbeth: Not at all I don't think
Agatha Macbeth: Still me
Eliza Madrigal: :)

Eliza Madrigal: I feel differently sometimes
Agatha Macbeth nods
Agatha Macbeth: Do you dress by mood?
Eliza Madrigal: yes, generally
Eliza Madrigal: I met someone a few years ago who dresses elementally
Agatha Macbeth: Kewt
Eliza Madrigal: I thought that was an interesting idea
Agatha Macbeth: Depends on the element I guess
Eliza Madrigal: well I'd be fire today ^^ - you'd be space perhaps? in white?
Agatha Macbeth: Air
Eliza Madrigal: ah, yes
Eliza Madrigal: with hair on fire
Agatha Macbeth: Unless it was Chinese elements, they are diff
Eliza Madrigal: are they? how so?
Agatha Macbeth: There are 5 instead of 4
Eliza Madrigal: I tend to think of 5... perhaps due to tibetan frameworks.. same?
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, could be
Agatha Macbeth: Don't think Air is one tho

Eliza Madrigal: The Wu Xing, (五行 wŭ xíng) also known as the Five Elements, Five Phases, the Five Agents, the Five Movements, Five Processes, and the Five Steps/Stages, is a fivefold conceptual scheme that many traditional Chinese fields used to explain a wide array of phenomena, from cosmic cycles to
Eliza Madrigal: the interaction between internal organs, and from the succession of political regimes to the properties of medicinal drugs.

The "Five Phases" are Wood (木 mù), Fire (火 huǒ), Earth (土 tǔ), Metal (金 jīn), and Water (水 shuǐ).

This order of presentation is known as the "mutual generation" (xiangsheng 相生) sequence. In the order of "mutual conquest" (xiangsheng 相勝) or "mutual overcoming" (xiangke 相剋), they are Wood, Earth, Water, Fire, and Metal.

Agatha Macbeth: Yep, sounds about right
Eliza Madrigal: 5 phases... I like that

--BELL--

Agatha Macbeth: The Chinese are very 5 orientated
Eliza Madrigal: me too, for whatever reason... like I have a 5 years of 55 breaths practice
Agatha Macbeth: Interesting
Agatha Macbeth tickles Liz's feet
Eliza Madrigal giggles wildly
Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
Eliza Madrigal: :) should go... have no idea what I'm pulling together for dinner
Agatha Macbeth: I love bare feet
Agatha Macbeth: Hm
Eliza Madrigal: me too... but can't get the SL feet to match my legs
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe you can do a Bruce and scrape something
Eliza Madrigal: lol
Eliza Madrigal: tonight might be an order in night... not feeling so hot
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Eliza Madrigal: but also feeling happy... nice session
Eliza Madrigal: thank you
Agatha Macbeth: Weather?
Agatha Macbeth: Yw :)
Eliza Madrigal: no tbh I'm having a severe flare lately... not able to get it under control
Agatha Macbeth: Oh dear
Agatha Macbeth: Makes you sound like the sun
Eliza Madrigal: so even being in SL makes my eyes sting a lot
Eliza Madrigal: lollol
Agatha Macbeth: You should bathe them or something
Eliza Madrigal: or a dragon
Agatha Macbeth: Yes
Eliza Madrigal: :) (((Aggers))))))
Agatha Macbeth: Liz ♥
Eliza Madrigal: ♥ ♥ ♥

Agatha Macbeth: Lovely background
Eliza Madrigal: I like this one too... gentle
Agatha Macbeth: One of Bleu's no doubt?
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Agatha Macbeth: Talented girl
Eliza Madrigal: very!
Eliza Madrigal: the group in general... so many talented folks
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
Agatha Macbeth: Lucky us
Eliza Madrigal: like our aggers too :)

Agatha Macbeth: I'm not much talented at anything
Eliza Madrigal: at breaking tensions... at livening discussions...
Eliza Madrigal: and stepping in so gracefully when I falter....
Eliza Madrigal: being sweet to people...
Agatha Macbeth: Livening discussions? Erk
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Agatha Macbeth: Well you're worth it
Eliza Madrigal: I am sort of amazed at some of the things you remember about people
Eliza Madrigal: little details... like Eden typing from bed
Agatha Macbeth: Hm?
Eliza Madrigal: was noticing that the other day
Agatha Macbeth: Oh right

Agatha Macbeth: Yes things like that stick
Agatha Macbeth: The big picture i miss totally!
Eliza Madrigal: hah, somehow I don't believe that
Agatha Macbeth: Wellll
Eliza Madrigal: but I won't blow your cover :P
Agatha Macbeth: I'll have to chase it if you do

Eliza Madrigal: hah... okay my friend... have a lovely night
Agatha Macbeth: We look like we're in an enchanted forest or something
Agatha Macbeth: You too
Eliza Madrigal: yes... sort of hard to leave
Agatha Macbeth: Be well
Eliza Madrigal: but leave we must
Eliza Madrigal: tc <3
Agatha Macbeth: OK I'll go first :p
Eliza Madrigal smiles

Agatha Macbeth: Where's the way out?
Eliza Madrigal: click your heels
Agatha Macbeth: And fly