2009.11.06 13:00 - Princeton miniretreat friday afternoon

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Yakuzza Lethecus. The comments are by Yakuzza Lethecus.

    Fox Monacular: Hi Yakuzza
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey fox
    Fox Monacular: how are you?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: fine, thanks hope you and the baby are too
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi wol
    Fox Monacular: yes, thanks:) we're good as well
    Wol Euler: hello fox, yaku
    Fox Monacular: hello Wol, Scath
    Wol Euler: hello scath
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Wol, Fox, Yakuzza:)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi sacth
    Fox Monacular: Hi Pema
    Pema Pera: Hi Everybody!
    Fox Monacular: Hi Pila
    Pila Mulligan: greetings
    Wol Euler: hello pema, pila
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Pema, Pila!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi pema, maxine
    Fox Monacular: Hi Maxine
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Maxine:)
    Maxine Walden: hi, Yakuzza, Fox, Scath
    Maxine Walden: hi, Pila
    Pila Mulligan: hi Maxine
    Fox Monacular: Hi Eos
    Eos Amaterasu: hi gang
    Maxine Walden: Am at Princeton along with Pema and others
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Eos:)
    Pema Pera: Greetings from Princeton, yes!
    Pila Mulligan: greetings to Princeton :)
    Fox Monacular: :)
    Fox Monacular: Hi Vendy
    Vendy Walpole: Hello everyone
    Wol Euler: hello maxine, vendy, eos
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi, eos,vendy
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Vendy:)
    Vendy Walpole: :)
    Pila Mulligan: how are the Princeton retreat sessions going?
    Eos Amaterasu: Pema, Maxine and I are connecting from the INstitute
    Wol Euler cheers
    Scathach Rhiadra: :)
    Maxine Walden: Trying to think how to answer Pila's question...
    Eos Amaterasu: Eliza is also coming
    Fox Monacular: Hi Bolnath
    Bolonath Crystal: namaste :)
    Wol Euler: hello bolonath
    Scathach Rhiadra: Namasté Bolo:)
    Pema Pera: Hi Bolo!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi bolo
    Pila Mulligan: yo Bo
    Maxine Walden: we are seated in a very spacious board rrom with a beautiful view to the crisp autumn outside...helping us to feel in a very spaceious setting
    Eos Amaterasu: /|\
    Wol Euler: nice
    Eos Amaterasu: Para says hi to PIla
    Pila Mulligan: is it on campus?
    Eos Amaterasu: @ IAS campus
    Pema Pera: There are seven guardians here in Princeton, only some of them with internet connection: Adams, Eliza, Eos, Maxine, Paradise, Pema, SophiaSharon
    Eos Amaterasu: SophiaSharon is late 'cause she's getting dressed
    Maxine Walden: yes, Pila, just a couple of buildings away from Piet's office at the Institute for Advanced Studies at Princeton
    Pila Mulligan: hi Eliza
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi eliza,solo
    Wol Euler: hello Eliza
    Vendy Walpole: Hi Eliza
    Yakuzza Lethecus: sophia
    Pila Mulligan: hi Sharon
    Fox Monacular: Hi Eliza, SophiaSharon
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Everyone, I will need a few minutes to rez
    SophiaSharon Larnia: on an old laptop :)
    Wol Euler: hello ss :)
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Eliza, sophiasharon:)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hello!!
    Maxine Walden: and our thoughts have been spacious in many ways
    Fox Monacular: full circle:)
    Eos Amaterasu: We Princetonians are sitting around an enormous "board" table
    SophiaSharon Larnia: with a fountain and pond out a great glass window
    Fox Monacular: Hi Qt
    Eos Amaterasu: there are two fountains in the pond we are looking out on
    Wol Euler: hello solo, qt
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Solo, Qt:)
    Vendy Walpole: hi Qt
    Solobill Laville: Hi, all :)
    Qt Core: hi all
    Eliza Madrigal: Forigve me for being a tad slow... am on a different computer :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Wonderful to see you all
    Pema Pera: So far, we have done three short practice sessions here in RL, starting with the basic PaB idea: "try to drop what you have in order to see what you are" -- perhaps we can all do that during the 90 second break here too
    Pema Pera: (I wish I could convey all the RL giggling going on here in this room . . . . )
    Wol Euler: :)
    Vendy Walpole: :))
    Maxine Walden: agree, Pema
    Scathach Rhiadra: we can imagine:)
    Qt Core: start voice ;-)
    Wol Euler: hello bert
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi bert
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Bertram
    Bertram Jacobus: hey all ! so many ! ... :-)
    Maxine Walden: yes, am feeling a bit distracted as if two 'groups' going on
    Pema Pera: Greetings from the Princeton PaB retreat, Bert
    SophiaSharon Larnia: there is a lot of side chat going on here :)
    Maxine Walden: even though we all are trying to focus on the SL group and session
    Bertram Jacobus: whaow - hiw nice ! ty pema :-)
    Wol Euler: hello bleu
    Bleu Oleander: hi
    Fox Monacular: Hi Bleu
    Bleu Oleander: hi all
    Bertram Jacobus: hy bleu :-)
    Pema Pera: Hi Bleu, so nice seeing you here!
    Vendy Walpole: hi
    Bleu Oleander: hi Pema, Bertram
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Bleu
    Bolonath Crystal smiles. so, did somebody drop anything?
    Eliza Madrigal: haha
    SophiaSharon Larnia: giggles
    Scathach Rhiadra: :)
    Bleu Oleander: hi Sophia
    Pema Pera: people here in RL are dropping all kinds of hints
    Eos Amaterasu: drop till you stop :-)
    Pema Pera: we saw many droppings in the woords
    Pema Pera: *woods
    Bolonath Crystal: :D
    Bertram Jacobus: which hint for example ?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: drop it like its hot
    Wol Euler: hello arch
    Bertram Jacobus: hy arch ... :-)
    Pema Pera: Hi Arch
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Arch
    Bertram Jacobus: which hints do people drop pema ?
    Pila Mulligan: have the 'try to drop what you have in order to see what you are' seesions led to insights?
    Pema Pera: all kind of hints, Bert :)
    Bertram Jacobus: whaow ! so many ! ...
    Eliza Madrigal: It has been very nice sharing space so far... more comfortable than I could havehoped
    Wol Euler: good :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi arch
    Pema Pera: yes, remarkably similar in quality as in the California retreat, even though in a very different setting
    Eliza Madrigal: awe-inspiring setting in its own way
    Eos Amaterasu: more colors in the trees, with the afternoon light going through them
    Fox Monacular: nice:)
    Pema Pera: I met three of us here for the first time, having seen them only in SL so far, and as before, we all hit it off right away -- so interesting how SL conversations smoothly continue in RL
    Pila Mulligan: a pleasant time of year
    SophiaSharon Larnia: very beautiful here, perfect
    Maxine Walden: every clear crisp autumn day is a gift!
    Eliza Madrigal nods...subtle light play and exquisite temps...crisp mostly
    Wol Euler: that's good, sophia, you were pretty nervous yesterday.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, but its been better than I hoped :)
    Wol Euler: good :)
    Pila Mulligan: are you in Fuld Hall? or is the questions, does the campus have more buildings than Fuld Hall? -- just looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institu...Advanced_Study
    Pema Pera: nope, we're near the pond
    SophiaSharon Larnia: we all hit off very well, i think you all will find the same thing
    Maxine Walden: more buildings, Pila, and we are near the one overlooking the pond toward the woods, south, I believe of Fuld Hall
    Archmage Atlantis: It os a campus larger than a city in jew rersey
    Maxine Walden: we are in a building near the pond...
    Pila Mulligan: I'll try Google maps then :)
    Wol Euler: oooh yes.
    Pema Pera remembers Wol's picture of his car in Princeton . . .
    Eos Amaterasu: street view
    Wol Euler: :)
    Wol Euler: give adams a nudge for me please
    Vendy Walpole: Pema, people you just met in RL... how much are their personalities different than you imagined knowing them here in SL?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: << Pema shoves Adams
    Pema Pera: Adams looked VERY surprised
    Wol Euler: :)
    Maxine Walden: we all are laughing after the shove
    Pema Pera: until reading the text chat over Eliza's shoulder
    Wol Euler: 'cause adams took that photo :)
    Pema Pera: ah!
    Pema Pera: not different at all, Vendy
    Pema Pera: it's amazing how personalities shine through in SL
    Wol Euler nods
    Pema Pera: within a few minutes it feels like you've known them "forever"
    Vendy Walpole: that is interesting, I ask myslef often how good am I in "seeing" people here
    Wol Euler: which of course you have! just not their "meat avatars"
    Vendy Walpole: will know only if meet them :)
    Pema Pera: exactly :-)
    Pema Pera: I would love to visit Macedonia, Vendy!
    Zen Arado: you don't get body language in here
    Eos Amaterasu: rl meating
    Vendy Walpole: You are welcome Pema, will be my pleasure to sho you all
    Zen Arado: wonder how important body language is
    Vendy Walpole: show*
    Wol Euler raises an eyebrow at Zen and shakes her head.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    Zen Arado: well not real body language?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: <
    Wol Euler: :)
    Archmage Atlantis: As i child must learn it's parent's love throrh pysical touch
    Archmage Atlantis: se er we learn here
    Pema Pera: Wol, we have been talking about future retreats
    Pema Pera: including the one that you might be organizing in October
    Wol Euler grins
    Pema Pera: do you want to say something about possible locations?
    Pema Pera: (and libations)
    Wol Euler: heheh
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yay
    Wol Euler: definitely libations.
    Scathach Rhiadra: :)
    Eos Amaterasu notes the timing Wol chose for the retreat
    Wol Euler: there will be a Beer Day, to balance other retreats' silent days
    Wol Euler: but it will be *after* oktoberfest to avoid high-season prices.
    Pema Pera: left-over kegs?
    Solobill Laville chuckles
    Pema Pera: for half price?
    Wol Euler: ou idea was to aim for the week after that, so that people who wanted to could come early and take in the Fest.
    Pema Pera: the "after fest" party
    Wol Euler: right
    Wol Euler: my idea was to find a plce on the Starnberger See, which is very close to Munich, it's 20 mins away on a local tram line
    Wol Euler: and a very beautiful lake
    Wol Euler: so plenty of walking possible there.
    Wol Euler: but I blush to admit that I am no closer to having details to offer.
    Pema Pera: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Starnberg
    Archmage Atlantis: Wol,. I have a questkin if I may
    Wol Euler: please do.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: sounds great but Im sure hotels fill up very quickly
    Archmage Atlantis: Wen all sahamen asre called, what is requried
    Wol Euler: that htey answer the call? I don't know.
    Eos Amaterasu: ¿?
    Pema Pera: As for future retreats, we were also discussing Japan as a possibility, for some time in 2011
    Wol Euler: Sophia, I do intend to get something booked fairly soon, still in 2009 if possible; but I need to do a lot of research before then
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :))
    Wol Euler: the places I know personally are too hard to get to for travellers w/out their own ccars
    Pema Pera: if there would be enough interest, we could organize something in Kyoto in the spring or fall
    Wol Euler: that would be wonderful!
    Vendy Walpole: Sorry Pema, but I need to ask again...
    Vendy Walpole: :)
    Pema Pera: we could rent a van, Wol, as we did in California
    Pema Pera: yes, Vendy?
    Vendy Walpole: ty
    Vendy Walpole: when you are at retreat, what is the programme there ?
    Pema Pera: it is pretty open
    Pema Pera: we do some practices, rather short, ten minutes or so
    Vendy Walpole: wished to know how it looks like,what you do?
    Pema Pera: and then we discuss and share our experiences
    Bolonath Crystal: sorry, gtg
    Wol Euler: bye bolo, take care.
    Bolonath Crystal: bye @ all
    Pema Pera: but the practices are whatever comes up
    Bertram Jacobus: bye bolonath ... :-)
    Scathach Rhiadra: Namaste Bolo
    Solobill Laville waves
    Pema Pera: nothing fixed beforehand
    Qt Core: bye bolo
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Bolonath
    Eos Amaterasu: In Santa Cruz the middle day (of 3 full days) was silent
    Pema Pera: like today we did this "drop what you have to see what you are" exploration for ten minutes
    Pema Pera: and then we shared our experiences
    Pema Pera: does that give you an idea, Vendy?
    Pema Pera: yes, it was nice to have a silent day!
    Vendy Walpole: yes, Its clearer ...ty
    Vendy Walpole: you are focused to practice and sharing it in the group most of the time
    Eos Amaterasu: Santa Cruz was much less internet-connected than Princeton is
    SophiaSharon Larnia: otherwise, a lot of sharing and listening
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (nad laughing)
    Maxine Walden: yes, the sharing seems significant in formal and informal ways
    Eos Amaterasu: open space in the formal "let's drop....", in the discussions and in between
    Bertram Jacobus: quietly and fast removing myself, so that it will not disturb to much - best wishes ! ... :-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (whispers fast bye)
    Wol Euler: bye sophia, take care
    Solobill Laville: A favorite definition of communication of mine is "formal and informal sharing of meaningful information" :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye sophia
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (that was Bertram)
    Wol Euler: oh, sorry :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    Maxine Walden: nice, Solo
    Archmage Atlantis: What are you thoughts Pia;?
    Pila Mulligan: Pia is empty, Arc :)
    Pila Mulligan: there, a picture
    Pila Mulligan: worth 1000 words
    Wol Euler: ah, yes, very nice.
    Maxine Walden: Pila, wonderful!!
    Vendy Walpole: I needed thiis for the puzzle :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: Adams waves from the map
    Maxine Walden: yes, we are in the building nearest the triangular pond in the lower left
    Wol Euler tries to zoom in and is surprised when the resolution doesn' change :)
    Scathach Rhiadra: :)
    Pila Mulligan: is that a pond in the lower left?
    Maxine Walden: yes, solid green on the map
    Pema Pera: yes, we are at the "d" at the end of "Advanced" in the lower left
    Vendy Walpole: Perhaps on next session someone will show the pic of the interrior :)
    Eos Amaterasu: (I'll attach a pic of the view out from here to the chat log)
    Vendy Walpole: so, will have it all in 3d in my mind
    Wol Euler: what a pity that streetview doesn't go onto the institute's private roads
    Pema Pera: thanks, Pila!
    Wol Euler: (or perhaps: bully for you for keeping them out :)
    Eos Amaterasu: gps tends not to work well here either
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes I git lost, with Eliza int he car
    SophiaSharon Larnia: got*
    Pila Mulligan: http://static.panoramio.com/photos/o...al/8368443.jpg
    Pema Pera: some of our participants wound up in a wildlife preserve
    SophiaSharon Larnia: we ended up in a wildlife retreat
    SophiaSharon Larnia: wrong retreat!!!
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Wol Euler: :)
    Pema Pera: we had to go catch them
    Pema Pera: they're still pretty wild this afternoon
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Eliza laughs too (G)
    Pema Pera: (laughs is an understatement -- you should hear them here!)
    Wol Euler: heheheh
    Solobill Laville: :)
    Fox Monacular: :)
    Pema Pera: (now they're IMing each other in RL :-)
    Wol Euler: heh, how many layers of comms tech is that?
    Scathach Rhiadra: neat trick:)
    Pema Pera: (they're now lost in RL)
    Maxine Walden: without a gps
    Vendy Walpole imaginig Einstein walking through the park...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: true
    Maxine Walden: many spirits here
    Solobill Laville: Well, all the best to the retreaters! :)
    Solobill Laville: (oops)
    Pema Pera: ( ;-) )
    Pema Pera: Bye everybody, we're returning to RL
    Solobill Laville: Bye, all
    Fox Monacular: thank you for sharing
    Maxine Walden: Yes, need to leave. Take care all
    Scathach Rhiadra: good night all:)
    Wol Euler: bye retreaters, enjoy the day
    Eliza Madrigal: (Adams thanks Solobill and waves bye)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye all! take care!
    Eos Amaterasu: (we never left RL)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs true!
    Vendy Walpole: Bye ..have wonderful time all there
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thank you
    Fox Monacular: bye everyone
    Pila Mulligan: bye
    Qt Core: have fun retreating retreaters ;-)
    Bleu Oleander: bye everyone
    Scathach Rhiadra: bye Fox!
    Wol Euler: bye ari, fox, bleu
    Vendy Walpole: Bye
    Scathach Rhiadra: bye Bleu!
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye all, thanks..sorry to have been so quiet but happy to see you :)
    Fox Monacular: thanks again for sharing, retreatants:)
    Wol Euler: yes, it was great!
    Scathach Rhiadra: bye all!
    Wol Euler: I'll hve to ensure that the German retreaty place has wifi
    Wol Euler: bye scath, sleep well
    Vendy Walpole: It was great to see so many guardians too
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Vendy Walpole: Ok, be well all
    Vendy Walpole: bye
    Pila Mulligan: bye for now
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye everyone leaving
    Wol Euler: bye yaku, sleep well
    Yakuzza Lethecus: gute nacht wol :)
    Wol Euler: well, I should move on too. Goodnight everyone, take care.
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