The Guardian for this meeting was Zen Arado. The comments are by Zen Arado.

Zen Arado: Hi Xirana ;)
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Zen! :-)
Zen Arado: how are you?
Xirana Oximoxi: I'm fine, thankm you...quite hot here today:)...and you?
Zen Arado: not bad..a little tired
Zen Arado: only 15 C here
Xirana Oximoxi: ahh that's a nice temperature:)
Zen Arado: too cold
Zen Arado: and windy as well
Xirana Oximoxi: well...yes, to be in summer it's a little too cold:)
Zen Arado: was raining this morning
Xirana Oximoxi: we need rain now.... 2 months without it and it's very dangerous for the 'fire' in woods
Zen Arado: hmmm yes
Xirana Oximoxi: last weel abig fire burned a lot of land at the north of Cataloina
Zen Arado: 'the rain is Spain stays mainly on the plain'
Zen Arado: in
Zen Arado: you know that saying?
Xirana Oximoxi: where I live it's usually green and rainy all year...but not this summer
Xirana Oximoxi: no:)
Zen Arado: I learned that in school
Xirana Oximoxi: oh!
Xirana Oximoxi: and what doea it mean exactly?
Zen Arado: I think it was a geography clas
Zen Arado: class
Zen Arado: I don't know where the 'plain' is though
Xirana Oximoxi: but it makes no sense... at the plain it rains less than in the mountains
Xirana Oximoxi: ah yes...that's what I was wondering:)
Zen Arado: hmmm yes...that's why I was so bad at geography
Xirana Oximoxi: hehe :)
Zen Arado: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: is your city full of tourists at this time of the year?
Zen Arado: yes lots where I live
Zen Arado: they come to see the castle
Xirana Oximoxi: yes..I saw the link and some ictures and it's a nice place to visit
Xirana Oximoxi: pictures*
Xirana Oximoxi: have you ever paint the castle?
Zen Arado: I see Japanese tourists take photos of King Billy statue
Zen Arado: and I wonder why :)
Zen Arado: people just look for things to photograph
Zen Arado: it is an ugly statue
Xirana Oximoxi: maybe the statue is nice:)
Zen Arado: and an ugly castle :)
Xirana Oximoxi: ahhh ok:))
Xirana Oximoxi: well... the castle is not ugly :)... as far as I remember:)
Zen Arado: http://www.flickr.com/photos/21212853@N08/2251416364/
Xirana Oximoxi: I'll have to have a look again:)
Xirana Oximoxi: thank you....king billy has a generous hair:)) and that may seen 'exotic' to japanese:))
Zen Arado: you think?
Zen Arado: probably a wig
Zen Arado: the sculptor was asked to make it life sized

Zen Arado: but he was a small man
Xirana Oximoxi: the castle is not very nice...you are right :) but maybe in rl and specially when one is on holidays we see things with more positive eyes :)
Zen Arado: yes
Zen Arado: I made a mandala last week
Xirana Oximoxi: oh....can I see it?
Zen Arado: it isn't very good
Xirana Oximoxi: I am sure it is good:))
Zen Arado: but I can leaarn and make better ones
Xirana Oximoxi: yes...that's sure! :-)
Zen Arado: a friend showed me the principles
Xirana Oximoxi: wow Zen:)
Zen Arado: have to go to Kira
Xirana Oximoxi: too quick:)+
Zen Arado: restart :(
Xirana Oximoxi: ahhh yes...I see...like every Wednesday
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Bleu!
Zen Arado: Hi Bleu
Xirana Oximoxi: 4 minutes
Zen Arado: we are going to Kira...restart

We moved to Kira Cafe:

Bleu (bleu.oleander): hi Zen, Xirana :)
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): hi Bleu! :-)
Second Life: levi Ewing is online.
Zen (zen.arado): I was just showing Xiri a mandala I started to make last week
Bleu (bleu.oleander): oh nice
Zen (zen.arado): hmmm can't rez here
Second Life: Can't rez object at { 222.002, 30.8734, 102.604 } because the owner of this land does not allow it.  Use the land tool to see land ownership.
Second Life: druth Vlodovic is offline.
Zen (zen.arado): wonder why that is?
Zen (zen.arado): permissions must be different than at pavilion
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): I have seen some painted mandals... the children of my brother do paint it ...over a draw that is done...but yours is in ·D!!
Bleu (bleu.oleander): hmmm, I can't either
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): yes, I think permissions to rezz are different group
Zen (zen.arado): I want to learn how do do more dynamic art
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): in3D*
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): you mean with SL tools, Zen?
Zen (zen.arado): yes so far
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): Bleu makes wonderful Machiminas:)
Zen (zen.arado): tried Kira tag but still no rez
Bleu (bleu.oleander): ty! fun to do
Bleu (bleu.oleander): the awards ceremony is this sunday
Zen (zen.arado): a friend showed me some basic principles
Zen (zen.arado): machinima awards?
Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): to make mandalas?
Zen (zen.arado): yes
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): oh..have you presented a new one Bleu?
Zen (zen.arado): i wish I could show you
Bleu (bleu.oleander): I have 4 videos in the contest
Zen (zen.arado): what time is it at?
Bleu (bleu.oleander): 6am
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): thank you ! Bleu:)
Zen (zen.arado): TY 6am I can do
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): 6 am is ok for Europeans! :)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): they're opening with a show
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): I'll try to come:)
Zen (zen.arado): there is a mandala competition
Bleu (bleu.oleander): band and light show
Zen (zen.arado): but I didn't enter
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): is it a competition?
Zen (zen.arado): I need to learn more first
Bleu (bleu.oleander): http://uwainsl.blogspot.com/2012/07/...ek-wisdom.html
Bleu (bleu.oleander): ty!
Bleu (bleu.oleander): deadline just pasted
Bleu (bleu.oleander): past
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): I will go to visit:)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes me too
Zen (zen.arado): reminds me I want to take a video of my art gallery to show people i RL
Zen (zen.arado): I was telling women in my art club about SL and they just give me funny looks
Bleu (bleu.oleander): good idea Zen
Bleu (bleu.oleander): of course
Zen (zen.arado): so hard to explain
Zen (zen.arado): I could just use iPhone
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): yes...it takes some time here to get immersed and have fun:)
Zen (zen.arado): some of them use computers a bit
Zen (zen.arado): some bring in digital photo frames and paint from photo in it
Zen (zen.arado): :)
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): welll...the most important is to enjoy and also the result...actually I see a lot of artists mixing all medias
Zen (zen.arado): what is yhe topic this week
Bleu (bleu.oleander): what shall we do for our next art of being project? photos? sculptures?
Bleu (bleu.oleander): what's your favorite?
Zen (zen.arado): ha mandalas :)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): as sculptures?
Bleu (bleu.oleander): photos?
Zen (zen.arado): you could explain basic idea
Zen (zen.arado): sculpyure
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): :)) welll...it's a nice idea...but you'll have to explain the principles :))
Zen (zen.arado): maybe too much for some
Bleu (bleu.oleander): sculptures more challenging
Zen (zen.arado): need a little building skill
Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes
Zen (zen.arado): but not that mush
Zen (zen.arado): could pt it on a notecard
Zen (zen.arado): then tey could add own textures
Zen (zen.arado): only a simple couple of animation scripts needed
Bleu (bleu.oleander): what kinds of scripts?
Zen (zen.arado): smooth animation and slow rotation
Bleu (bleu.oleander): what's a smooth animation?
Zen (zen.arado): would be fun playing with them
Zen (zen.arado): if you add it to a water texture the water moves
Zen (zen.arado): like a river
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): ah nice
Zen (zen.arado): so if you add to a painting it moves
Bleu (bleu.oleander): oh like a texture movement?
Zen (zen.arado): best with abstracts
Zen (zen.arado): yes
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): I have the scripts to rotate textures
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): but maybe this one is different
Zen (zen.arado): you can play with different shapes then
Zen (zen.arado): it is a very simple script
Zen (zen.arado): one line
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): :)
Second Life: szavanna is offline.
Second Life: mighty pirate (alfred.kelberry) is online.
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): I have never writen a script:)..if you want I can give you the ones I have, they are free... a friend gave it to me some time ago
Second Life: mighty pirate (alfred.kelberry) is offline.
Zen (zen.arado): a woman showed me how to do it in a very short time
Zen (zen.arado): you just add the script
Second Life: szavanna is online.
Bleu (bleu.oleander): http://lindenarts.blogspot.com/
Zen (zen.arado): she started with 3 cylinders
Bleu (bleu.oleander): some good classes coming up with LEA
Bleu (bleu.oleander): are you both members?
Zen (zen.arado): LEA?
Bleu (bleu.oleander): Linden Endowment for the Arts
Bleu (bleu.oleander): great group
Zen (zen.arado): nope
Bleu (bleu.oleander): put on wonderful art shows
Zen (zen.arado): a SL group?
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): I think I am, but as I receive so much notices maybe I delete all:)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): classes
Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): I will be aware of it
Zen (zen.arado): must join
Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes, you should
Bleu (bleu.oleander): cool stuff
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): what I see about dinamic sculptures at LEA sims is that they use a big amount of prims
Bleu (bleu.oleander): Oberon's script classes are great
Bleu (bleu.oleander): you can subscribe to the blog for info
Zen (zen.arado): they usually go too fast for me
Bleu (bleu.oleander): ha yes for me too
Zen (zen.arado): at those kind of classes
Zen (zen.arado): I could learn it if I put my mind to it
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): thank you Bleu:) I'll have a look of what they are preparing... but I am still quite fond to brushes:)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes, takes patience
Bleu (bleu.oleander): :) Xiri
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): :)
Zen (zen.arado): I like the dynamicism of SL art
Bleu (bleu.oleander): haven't used my brushes in a while
Bleu (bleu.oleander): should probably dust them off :)
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): I have no patience to sit in front of the computer and learn scripting
Zen (zen.arado): RL art looks a bit static to me now
Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes, to me too sometimes
Zen (zen.arado): it seems more about using shapes and textures
Zen (zen.arado): I have only used two scripts so far
Zen (zen.arado): and just added them to Contents
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): yes, I understand you Zen...a lot of Art in SL takes profit of the possibilities of the tools to build here ..it's also very interesting
Zen (zen.arado): textures are more important
Bleu (bleu.oleander): it's fun to explore this new medium for art
Zen (zen.arado): but I'd like to learn to animate using Photoshop or some other program
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): it's curious....in RL I have to 'move' to make a painting...and it looks 'static'...and when you sit 'static' in front of the computer you create dinamic art:)))
Bleu (bleu.oleander): interesting observation Xiri!
Bleu (bleu.oleander): you're right
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): :-)
Zen (zen.arado): hah
Zen (zen.arado): http://community.secondlife.com/t5/T...ght/true#M1654
Bleu (bleu.oleander): movement in your mind in the same
Zen (zen.arado): haven't ried this yet though
Zen (zen.arado): I had to do a sitting for my local art club on Monday afternoon
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): a 'sitting'?
Zen (zen.arado): they paint the same things over and over agin
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): you mean a 'talk'?
Zen (zen.arado): it is an exhibition
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): ahh thank you:)
Zen (zen.arado): someone has to be there to sell paintings
Zen (zen.arado): I am the only artist with abstracts
Bleu (bleu.oleander): :)
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): I like your abstraacts very much:)
Zen (zen.arado): they have only sold 3 out of about 60 paintings
Zen (zen.arado): thanks :)
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): yw:)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): me too ... very nice!
Zen (zen.arado): I just like to play with colors
Bleu (bleu.oleander): you are both very talented!
Zen (zen.arado): I don't frame them
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): ty Bleu...you are too:))
Bleu (bleu.oleander): you inspire me to start painting again
Zen (zen.arado): just use deep edge canvasses
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): ahh wonderful! :-)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): I like to use the deep edge canvasses too
Zen (zen.arado): means I have to use oil or acrylic though
Bleu (bleu.oleander): frames get expensive
Zen (zen.arado): pastels need a frame
Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes, paper works need to be frames most of the time
Zen (zen.arado): framing is ok if they sell
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): sometimes pastels look better with the most simple wood frame...
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): I like mine with them...very simple and natural wood
Zen (zen.arado): still expensive though
Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes
Bleu (bleu.oleander): unless you make your own
Zen (zen.arado): and not easy to reframe
Zen (zen.arado): need equipment then
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): in Ikea you have some different for more or less 20 euors
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): euros
Zen (zen.arado): but need mat board too
Zen (zen.arado): mounts
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): do you have Ikes in Usa . Bleu?
Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes
Bleu (bleu.oleander): didn't know they had frames
Zen (zen.arado): we have one in Belfast
Bleu (bleu.oleander): will check it out
Zen (zen.arado): not sure they have frames in belfast
Zen (zen.arado): could probably order online
Bleu (bleu.oleander): well have to get to work
Zen (zen.arado): I like working with pastel
Bleu (bleu.oleander): nice to see you both
Zen (zen.arado): kk Bleu
Zen (zen.arado): have a good day
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): bye bye Bleu:)
Zen (zen.arado): :)
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): http://www.ikea.com/es/es/catalog/products/30134630/
Bleu (bleu.oleander): c u later ... take care
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): I like this one:)
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): take care:)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): ty Xiri :)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): bye
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): yw:)
Zen (zen.arado): byee
Zen (zen.arado): ah yes and looks cheap
Second Life: Bleu (bleu.oleander) is offline.
Zen (zen.arado): it would have to be the right size though
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): the problem is that you have to cut a mat ...normally this one is not the good size for the papers I use
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): yes:)
Zen (zen.arado): yes and I would find that difficult
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): yes:)
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): I do it myself...I have a big 'cutter' for mats...but if you have to buy it it becomes expensive again
Zen (zen.arado): yes
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): how is your French going?
Zen (zen.arado): that guy Filthy Fluno sell them without frames
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): have you been practicing or making holidays like Cem and Jeff?
Second Life: Oona Ra is offline.
Zen (zen.arado): slowly ;)
Zen (zen.arado): I am using duolingo
Zen (zen.arado): it is good
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): ahh yes... I have not trid
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): tried
Zen (zen.arado): it is free too
Zen (zen.arado): I started about 6 weeks ago
Second Life: James (peacefuljames) is offline.
Zen (zen.arado): I do some every day
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): yes...I have the link...do you also 'speak' with othe people with duolingo?
Zen (zen.arado): no
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): ahh yes, that's what I thought:) I find more fun here :))
Zen (zen.arado): but there is dialogue ...recorded dialogue
Second Life: Aphrodite Macbain is online.
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): that's good to hearing practices then
Zen (zen.arado): yes no conversation
Zen (zen.arado): yes
Zen (zen.arado): that's the most difficult
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): the most important is what you do... a little everyday
Zen (zen.arado): some things sound the same and you have to work out what is said
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): in one place or another...also reading a book, or listening to radio...
Zen (zen.arado): yes
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): I will go now Zen!! thanks a lot for this nice time:)
Zen (zen.arado): but lsitening is so necessary
Zen (zen.arado): thanks for coming :)
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): yvw:)
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): see you soon ! and tc! :-)
Zen (zen.arado): I will try Spanish if I get good at French
Zen (zen.arado): byee
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): or Catalan!!1 I am teching Basic Catalan at Virtlandis:)
Second Life: ℳєℓίţђ (melith.rhiannyr) is online.
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): every Tuesday 11 am :)
Zen (zen.arado): Spanish would be more useful
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): hehe ok ok :))
Zen (zen.arado): is it like Spanish?
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): yes...it's of the same family:)
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): ok...bye bye for now:)
Zen (zen.arado): but more than Spanish with a diffeent accent
Zen (zen.arado): bye bye
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): :-)