The Guardian for this meeting was Eos Amaterasu. The comments are by Eos Amaterasu.

Catrinamonblue Resident: 's current display-name is "Catrinamonblue".

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Korel Laloix: Heya
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Kori :)
Korel Laloix: Good to see you again.
Catrinamonblue Resident: likewise :)
Korel Laloix: Quite some lag today
Catrinamonblue Resident: not so much for me
Korel Laloix: That last line from me was a thirty five second delay.
Catrinamonblue Resident: oh wow
Catrinamonblue Resident: is thinking Aph forgot her session :)
Korel Laloix: Not a big crowd today evidently..... mayhbe out of pity.. smiles
Catrinamonblue Resident: lol :)
Korel Laloix: Maybe to lagged to log on.
Catrinamonblue Resident: could be
Korel Laloix: Sl so needs to role back a couple of generations to let the lag settle.

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Catrinamonblue Resident: funny but I haven't really had much trouble that way
Korel Laloix: I am just winding down a cheap cell contract for internet service.
Korel Laloix: Can't wait to get something really good like I have had in the past.
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Korel Laloix: Anything in particular on your mind Cat?
Catrinamonblue Resident: not really, was just thinking bed would be a good place to be :)
Santoshima Resident: 's current display-name is "San".
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi San :)
Korel Laloix: Heya
Korel Laloix: Very laggy today fro sure
Santoshima Resident: hello cat and Korel
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hello Eos :)
Korel Laloix: Can'te vern see what I typed until afere I hit enter.
Santoshima Resident: greetings eos
Eos Amaterasu: hi Korel and San and Cat

Santoshima Resident: what's the topic tonight?
Catrinamonblue Resident: hypocrisy
Santoshima Resident: hmmm, ok
Korel Laloix: It is an interestingly overused word.
Santoshima Resident: hippos lose after the calgary flooding ... hippo crisis of a sort
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Paradise :)
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Para
Santoshima Resident: hi paradise
Paradise Tennant: hiya eos cat korel san :))
Santoshima Resident: how're the hipocracy conversations going so far?
Santoshima Resident: *i
Korel Laloix: Not so well... smiles
Korel Laloix: Think we are too worried about being labled.
Korel Laloix: The trouble is that most of the people the complain about hypocrits are themselves.
Korel Laloix: So hard to use the term.
Eos Amaterasu: or that our presentation doesn't match our being
Santoshima Resident: :)

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Eos Amaterasu: hmm... in hypocrisy you're two rather than one
Eos Amaterasu: or, you're not in your own skin
Korel Laloix: What do you mean by that Eos?... please explain.
Eos Amaterasu: there's who you're presenting yourself to be, and there's who you are (or think you are) :-)
Eos Amaterasu: or you feel insecure, so you feel the need to be someone/something other than what you are
Eos Amaterasu: $.02,
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: sry guys I'm too tired to participate in any coherent way :) will say g'night to you all
Eos Amaterasu: 'gnight
Paradise Tennant: sweet dreams cat
Santoshima Resident: that was well said, g'night! rest wel
Santoshima Resident: l
Korel Laloix: brb... relog

Eos Amaterasu: Hey Paradise, I just found out about the intense downpour and flooding in Toronto!
Paradise Tennant: yes!
Santoshima Resident: happening now?
Paradise Tennant: 14 inches in 1 hour
Eos Amaterasu: !!!
Eos Amaterasu: does the world seem particularly crazy right now?
Paradise Tennant: we still have hundreds of people lined up on Bay street trying to get home
Paradise Tennant: no subway no go train very busy taxis
Paradise Tennant: http://www.blogto.com/city/2013/07/massive_rain_storm_hits_toronto_causing_flooding_and_power_outages/
Santoshima Resident: oh, are you home para?
Paradise Tennant: yep but it took a while did not leave the office till 8
Santoshima Resident: was this storm anticipated by ... anyone?
Eos Amaterasu: no, but enough climatic energy of circumstance to produce highly vertical clouds which massively downpoured
Eos Amaterasu: there's just plain more energy in the air, so raises the bar for extreme events
Paradise Tennant: i guess very wierd to see a marine unit rescure a go train :)

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Paradise Tennant: think I am too sleepy to type it seems :)) will say good nite and take the pup puddle hopping
Eos Amaterasu: be well, para and pup
Santoshima Resident: good night paradise

Eos Amaterasu: any further thoughts on hypocrisy?
Santoshima Resident: not sure what people have discussed here, as have been away for a while ...
stevenaia Michinaga: greetings
Santoshima Resident: hypocricy involves intentional deception
Eos Amaterasu: hi stevie
Santoshima Resident: greetings stevenaia
stevenaia Michinaga: wonders, is the hypocrite ever aware of there own hypocracy
Eos Amaterasu: maybe it can creep up on you....
Eos Amaterasu: get caught up in a web of little shifts and spins
stevenaia Michinaga: creeping hyposcracy

stevenaia Michinaga: San, you think hypocricy is always intensional
Santoshima Resident: a moment toconsider your question
stevenaia Michinaga: nods
Santoshima Resident: i believe the definition incloudes that aspect.
Santoshima Resident: the degree of intentionality might be by degrees
Santoshima Resident: conscious
Santoshima Resident: unconscious
stevenaia Michinaga: but ever self acknowledged? I see it as a judgment by others, perhaps even rightfully so
Eos Amaterasu: a conspiracy of mutual ignoring can create shared hypocrisy, which might even be somewhat invisible to such a society
Santoshima Resident: true enough
stevenaia Michinaga: since you would have to be an idiot to paint yourself as a hypoctire
Eos Amaterasu: shit happens
stevenaia Michinaga: no shortage there
stevenaia Michinaga: nods, like stating all men are free (except for slaves)
stevenaia Michinaga: or the right to vote, (unless you are a women)
Eos Amaterasu: but those are also good examples of what was the norm in certain societies

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stevenaia Michinaga: they were not aware of their acts....and yet they appear like hypocrite now that we can look back and judge, however at that time, they thought nothing of it,
Eos Amaterasu: the question is, what is such a norm on our society that we are yet unaware of?
Eos Amaterasu: in our society
stevenaia Michinaga: indeed
Eos Amaterasu: the future will find us guilty (that's why the nsa is storing every move we make, every breath we take)
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, what will the future judge our hypocricy on
Eos Amaterasu: climate change is an obvious one....
Santoshima Resident: our knowledge of climate change and our general inablitly and unwillingness to actaully make the profound changes needed to alter the course ... for axample
Santoshima Resident: e
stevenaia Michinaga: nods, carbon emissions controled by coorporations, GMO's, etc
Santoshima Resident: our obliteration of whole species of plants and creatures
Eos Amaterasu: by the way, re last week'
Santoshima Resident: we are idiots to the extreme
stevenaia Michinaga: I have yet to see anyone be congratulated for their hypocrisy, we do not hold it high on our list of admirable qualities

stevenaia Michinaga: what abut last week, Eos?
Eos Amaterasu: oh, thinking of a powerful video I just saw that really demonstrates empathy
Eos Amaterasu: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2013/jul/08/mos-def-force-fed-guantanamo-bay-video
Eos Amaterasu: Yasiin Bey (aka Mos Def) force-fed under standard Guantánamo Bay procedure
Eos Amaterasu: tough watching, but conveys something
Eos Amaterasu: anyway, got to head to be, to sleep, to dream, perchance....
Eos Amaterasu: to bed
Eos Amaterasu: ciao, san and stevie
stevenaia Michinaga: night Eos
stevenaia Michinaga: seems like hypocrisy is everywhere, even if you can't it,
Santoshima Resident: peace

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stevenaia Michinaga: what flowers are you holding?
Santoshima Resident: cherry
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Santoshima Resident: how're you?
stevenaia Michinaga: tired, been very busy , a nice chnage
Santoshima Resident: good for you ...
Santoshima Resident: work-wise?
stevenaia Michinaga: have you been traveling?
stevenaia Michinaga: yes
Santoshima Resident: travelling, yes, sort of
Santoshima Resident: relocating 'home'
Santoshima Resident: it has been not some small task
stevenaia Michinaga: moving never is
Santoshima Resident: no internet hookup for a while
Santoshima Resident: frogs and bats instead
stevenaia Michinaga: I just moved my office, always distruptive
Santoshima Resident: oh, i remember you were moving
Santoshima Resident: settled now in new digs?
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, like it alot
stevenaia Michinaga: all alone and happy
Santoshima Resident: that's great
Santoshima Resident: solo?
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, office mate got a full time jb with a non-profit and is also very happy
stevenaia Michinaga: after 13 years together

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stevenaia Michinaga: did you move your studio too?
Santoshima Resident: no, still same place
Santoshima Resident: commuting
Santoshima Resident: for day stretches
Santoshima Resident: compressed work week
Korel Laloix: I can't see anyone.. just on the map.
Santoshima Resident: hi Korel
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Krel, you you on a mobile device
Korel Laloix: As usual, yes
Santoshima Resident: any images or just only ever text?
Korel Laloix: yCan't do Sl at the office any more/
Santoshima Resident: aww
Korel Laloix: Most of the time I can see things.. I just derez all the prims.
stevenaia Michinaga: well you got here, that;s half he battle
Korel Laloix: Makes it workabel that way.. but right now, I can't see either of you.
Korel Laloix: TPing just crashes when the lag is like this for me.
stevenaia Michinaga: nods, well I;m off to bed
stevenaia Michinaga: night my friends
Santoshima Resident: nite nite steve
Santoshima Resident: wow, so much more dress there
Korel Laloix: Ciao..; take care
Aphrodite Macbain: 's current display-name is "Aph".
Santoshima Resident: hello aph
Korel Laloix: Heya
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi
Aphrodite Macbain: I came to pick p my sewing
Aphrodite Macbain: O loke your olive leaves San
Aphrodite Macbain: I like
Santoshima Resident: oh ... green feathers i believe
Korel Laloix: I am off to bed again I think.
Aphrodite Macbain: aaaah ok

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Korel Laloix: Take care all.
Santoshima Resident: by korel
Korel Laloix: ciao
Aphrodite Macbain: ciao