2009.11.18 13:00 - Avatars, appearance, risk

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    Wol Euler recovered this session from the autologging database.

     

    Vendy appeared in a new avatar form, as a Tiny grey hamster.

     

    Vendy Walpole: Hello

    Fefonz Quan: Hello Wendy

    Vendy Walpole: Hope you do not mind that I appear in this way?

    Fefonz Quan: not it all, it's such a cute avatar :)

    Vendy Walpole: I think the same, glad you like it :)

    Vendy Walpole: This is my first day in sl in this avatar, feel like a child

    Vendy Walpole: exploring the world

    Fefonz Quan: yes, how do you call this animal?

    Vendy Walpole: I was wondering while I was watching others tinies what attracts people to animal avatars

    Vendy Walpole: Well, I would like it be a mouse, though

    Vendy Walpole: it is named a humster officialy

    Fefonz Quan: yes, that's what i thought

    Vendy Walpole: Are you a guardian this time Fefonz?

    Fefonz Quan: indeed

    Vendy Walpole: Okay, you have been long time in PaB?

    Fefonz Quan: and do you understand now what atracts people to animal avatars?

    Fefonz Quan: about a year now, most of it in PaB and Kira

    Vendy Walpole: I see, I am still green here :)

    Vendy Walpole: well, about the avatar I have it wakes up the child inside

    Vendy Walpole: and think makes people to react warmly

    Vendy Walpole: yet, still need more time to explore this

    Fefonz Quan nods, i guess so

    Fefonz Quan: i thought one main reason for those avatars is that they free people from the gender stereotype

    Vendy Walpole: That could be true also

    Vendy Walpole: and one more reason is that I do not have to think what to dress

    Fefonz Quan: well, me neither as some here tkae the effort to mention sometimes ;-)

    Vendy Walpole: :))

    Vendy Walpole: You should do as you feel of course

    Vendy Walpole: not as others expect

    Vendy Walpole: until it does not make any hurm to anybody

    Fefonz Quan: sure, i know that. yet, as we know, knowing the path and walking the path are two different things

    Fefonz Quan: Heya Pila!

    Vendy Walpole: Yes, as the fist step is the most difficult

    Vendy Walpole: Hello Pila

    Pila Mulligan: hi Fonzy ... long time :)

    Pila Mulligan: hi Vendy and Cal

    Vendy Walpole: Hi Calvino :)

    Calvino Rabeni: Hello all

    Fefonz Quan: yep, good to see you. and Hello Calvino

    Fefonz Quan: is it your first time here, pardon my asking?

    Pila Mulligan: yes, is there anything I should know?

    Calvino Rabeni: Not the first, less than 10th perhaps

    Pila Mulligan: :) Cal's been several times Fef :)

    Fefonz Quan: not you Pila :-p

    Fefonz Quan: ok, so i don't need to give you the newbies intro :)

    Calvino Rabeni: no, Isuppose not

    --BELL--

    Calvino Rabeni: I know a group that gives their newbies intro EVERY time, regardless of whether there are newbies.

    Pila Mulligan: souonds kind of rigid

    Fefonz Quan: the eternal renewal group? ;-)

    Pila Mulligan: :)

    Calvino Rabeni: No, it has a ritual function. They make it up new every single time.

    Vendy Walpole: perhaps they prefere new starts all the time?

    Vendy Walpole nods

    Vendy Walpole: yes, like each new day is a new beginning

    Fefonz Quan: that was my point too Vendy

    Calvino Rabeni: I thought it odd, but got to like it

    Vendy Walpole: I like sunrises cause that new chance we get

    Vendy Walpole: it is up to us what we shall do with it over the day

    Fefonz Quan: i like sunrises, just never see them cause of the time...

    Vendy Walpole: how do you mean never seen them, you are never awaken at that time?

    Fefonz Quan: on a lucky day i can see the sunset going out of work

    Fefonz Quan: Mostly not awake, very rarely i get up before 7-7 thirty am

    Vendy Walpole: You could try once to set the alarm clock

    Vendy Walpole: I believe you will enjoy

    Fefonz Quan: well surely i saw them some times in the pst

    Fefonz Quan: on trips, etc.

    Fefonz Quan: past

    Pila Mulligan: hi Wol

    Fefonz Quan: Heya Wol!

    Vendy Walpole: yes, and even in the towns they make me feel like purifying inside

    Pila Mulligan: hi Eden

    Wol Euler: hello everyone

    Calvino Rabeni: :)

    Vendy Walpole: Hi Eden

    Fefonz Quan: I remember once i woke up at 4:30 am to go see the sunrise over the Taj Mahal, but it was too cloudy :(

    Wol Euler: :)

    Wol Euler: nice av, Vendy :)

    Fefonz Quan: Hello Micko!

    Wol Euler: hello mick

    Vendy Walpole: Thank you so much, I am excited wearing it, can you believe?

    Mickorod Renard: hiya

    Pila Mulligan: hi Mick

    Wol Euler: actually, yes, I can easily believe that :)

    Vendy Walpole: Hi Mick

    Wol Euler: appearances influence us

    Vendy Walpole: I am glad that people react warmly to such avatars

    Wol Euler: even our own

    Vendy Walpole: yes

    Vendy Walpole: and I laughed today in fron of my screen a lot in RL

    Eden Haiku: Hello everyone, sorry I was spaced out...

    Vendy Walpole: watching myself here

    Fefonz Quan: Hello Eden

    Wol Euler smiles and nods

    Mickorod Renard: nice Eden

    Vendy Walpole: It made me think about more serious things though

    Wol Euler: mmmm?

    Vendy Walpole: like

    Fefonz Quan listens

    Vendy Walpole: how difficult is to change some habbits and patterns

    Wol Euler nods

    Eden Haiku: Indeed

    Vendy Walpole: and how much we care what people would think of us

    Fefonz Quan: yes, more than a custume

    Fefonz Quan: yes we care :)

    Vendy Walpole: so, that implies the question how much we are free really and I am still thinking about it

    Wol Euler: hello ara

    arabella Ella: Hiya everyone!

    Mickorod Renard: Hi Ara

    Vendy Walpole: Hi Ara

    Pila Mulligan: hi Ara

    Fefonz Quan: well, fefonz is just very little free

    Fefonz Quan: Hi Ara!

    Vendy Walpole: Why so Fefonz?

    Fefonz Quan: apearances seem to create so many conditioned reactions

    Mickorod Renard: the way we filter things I guess

    Pila Mulligan: maybe we have more freedom in some things and less freedom ni other things

    Fefonz Quan nods

    Wol Euler: and the fact of living in relationships, in a society

    --BELL--

    Wol Euler: hello arch

    Fefonz Quan: Hello Archmag

    Mickorod Renard: hi Arch

    Pila Mulligan: hi Arch

    arabella Ella: Hiya Archmage

    Vendy Walpole: The photographers have many filters in their bags close to them, i believe we have too, we are just used to one filter

    Archmage Atlantis: Hello all young

    Pila Mulligan: :)

    Pila Mulligan: hi Bert

    Mickorod Renard: Hiya Bert

    Fefonz Quan: Hey Bert

    Wol Euler nods. Changing av is a way to step aside from the filters we know, like wearing a mask in RL

    Wol Euler: hello bert

    Bertram Jacobus: hy everybody ... :-)

    Pila Mulligan: hi BigJimmy

    Eden Haiku: Hello Biglimmy, welcome!

    Vendy Walpole: This is a little experiment Wol, yes

    Vendy Walpole: I was afraid even to appear here like a mouse :)

    Pila Mulligan: Bert's avi also seems new to me

    Wol Euler: indeed :)

    Bertram Jacobus: yes. i never wore it here before pila :-)

    Vendy Walpole: But thene said, why not, nobody will be hurt

    Archmage Atlantis: muscle man :)

    Bertram Jacobus: lil fatty ... :-)

    Vendy Walpole: nice butterfly Bertram

    Wol Euler: but it#s interesting that it does take that moment of courage, isn't it?

    Bertram Jacobus: ty vendy :-)

    Vendy Walpole: yes, that is strange, even such step needs some courage

    Fefonz Quan: I am afraid i'll have to leave, i got so tired i started dreaming in the last 90sec meditation...

    Wol Euler: :)

    arabella Ella: nite Fefonz

    Wol Euler: goodnight fef, take care of youreself.

    Vendy Walpole: Sllep well Fefonz

    Mickorod Renard: nite fef

    Archmage Atlantis: Ah, good topic, moment of courage

    Pila Mulligan: bye Fef, nice to see you

    Bertram Jacobus: by efef

    Eden Haiku: Goodnite!

    Fefonz Quan: night all, it's good seeing you here, enjoy the rest of the meeting :)

    Vendy Walpole: wave

    Fefonz Quan: _/!\_

    Vendy Walpole: Those moments are risky, but what you gain if you never try?

    Wol Euler nods

    arabella Ella: don't you think we may have more courage on SL than in RL?

    Wol Euler: sure :)

    Archmage Atlantis: Sometimes one loses and gains

    arabella Ella: the risk is less here i feel altho there is still some risk

    Archmage Atlantis: Mostly tho, one loses

    Wol Euler: right, the question is "if SL is just a game, just pixels, why this feeling of risk?"

    Calvino Rabeni: I think , no more courage here than RL, if courage is relative to risk.

    Mickorod Renard: I think I am too open with my thoughts here,,I am going to be more reserved in future

    Wol Euler: (the obvious answer being that it's neither just a game nor just pixels, but let's follow the question. Why is it a risk?)

    Vendy Walpole: depends how much someone is true himself/herself here

    arabella Ella: i like your question Wol ... why the feeling of risk, of embarassment, etc

    Wol Euler: mmhmm

    Vendy Walpole: I am not a mouse in RL but the personality is same here

    Vendy Walpole: not the look, appearance

    Wol Euler: why am I not naked? why did I feel it inappropriate to be hugged in a SL synagogue on the weekend?

    arabella Ella: precisely Wol ... what do you think?

    Archmage Atlantis: Let us see how brave Pema is

    Archmage Atlantis: Watching from the sidelines

    Wol Euler: well, I think that it's about identity and about community, about belonging to a society

    arabella Ella: what do you mean Arch?

    Wol Euler: and being known. we are not anonymous here, though we don't know each others' names

    arabella Ella: true and i think we all start by constructing an identity and a reputation here on SL ... perhaps to some extent an image too for some?

    Wol Euler nods

    Vendy Walpole: and it can be ego thing also, to be approved by others, respected even

    Vendy Walpole: in any world

    Calvino Rabeni: Indeed, it is work

    Wol Euler: changing av drastically, to a mouse say, challenges that image

    arabella Ella nods

    Calvino Rabeni: If I blew my avatar's social image, it would be work to start a new one

    Calvino Rabeni: that is a risk

    Wol Euler: and leaves you open to being challenged for it by others who are surprised

    Wol Euler: right, calvino.

    Vendy Walpole: smiles, imagine if I came as a vampire, that requires much more courage I guess

    Vendy Walpole: haha

    Archmage Atlantis: They tell me this is Popeye, I am what I am

    Wol Euler: or Yahweh.

    Calvino Rabeni: well you could LOOK like a vampire, OK, but acting like one would be different.

    Calvino Rabeni: Wasn't Yaweh a kind of avatar?

    arabella Ella: and vampires are in fashion it seems at the moment ... novels, movies, etc

    arabella Ella: brb

    Wol Euler grins. It's going to be so much fun to do the avatar/identity/appearance workshop next year.

    Mickorod Renard: I was thinking of ego

    --BELL--

    Archmage Atlantis: Yahweh is god with vowels

    Mickorod Renard: I was sure I saw an email earlier regarding the use of these PaB sessions,,now I feel I am worried about bringing up subjects

    Wol Euler: you did see that, Mick.

    Mickorod Renard: I dont think I will post my last log,,it didnt seem to contain anything to do with being

    Pila Mulligan: :)

    Wol Euler: I think personally that the curernt discussion is very much about Being, perhaps less so about Play as Being.

    Archmage Atlantis: And your thoughts on that Wol are?

    Wol Euler: that it's fine.

    Wol Euler: IMHO YMMV

    Wol Euler: OITMACTTA

    Eden Haiku: Maybe if you read it in a few days, your pesrpective will have changed too Mickorod...

    Bertram Jacobus: don't understand many letters ... ;-)

    Wol Euler: Objects In The Mirror Are Closer Than They Appear

    Bertram Jacobus: and mick : i think , sometimes the meetings enjoy us and sometimes they don't. so it's at least to me ...

    Archmage Atlantis: Neither do I Bertram

    Wol Euler: which can be PaB-ly expressed as "reality is not what you think you see"

    Calvino Rabeni: I think, it may be there anyway mick.

    Bertram Jacobus: how can you know wol ?

    Wol Euler: I don't know.

    Eden Haiku: ;-)

    Wol Euler: I look and feel, and think.

    Bertram Jacobus: so why do you wrtie that ?

    Archmage Atlantis: They seem to me a way to hide

    Bertram Jacobus: hmm ... ;-)

    Bertram Jacobus: that´s not my impression arch

    Bertram Jacobus: but mnay be i fail

    Bertram Jacobus: do you like hiding wol ? ;-)

    Wol Euler frowns. I didn't know I was.

    Bertram Jacobus: hadn´t we that already ?

    Bertram Jacobus: was only a question. but may be too insisting. sry -

    Archmage Atlantis: Pila, your comments?

    Vendy Walpole: I thought we talked about changing of the points of view instead of hiding

    Archmage Atlantis: You are very old

    Vendy Walpole: andabout the courage it requires

    Bertram Jacobus: talks develop vendy -

    Bertram Jacobus: and there are common aspects in showing and hiding and changing etc.

    Archmage Atlantis: pokes Pila

    Vendy Walpole: even same words people can understand in different ways

    Vendy Walpole: :)

    Bertram Jacobus: there are extravert and intravert people as we all may know ...

    Archmage Atlantis: yes it is true, Bertram

    Vendy Walpole: yes, and each of us has own unique filter for perception of "reality"

    Bertram Jacobus: BUT, vendy - i said this already today to gaya : i think, we can communicate (added here : nevertheless)

    arabella Ella: which are you Bert, introvert or extrovert?

    Archmage Atlantis: I am almost a total introvert

    Vendy Walpole: Arch, total intovert I think would not dare to say it

    Wol Euler: :)

    Bertram Jacobus: i think more extravert and i find that quite comfortable ara - why do you ask or : and you ? :-)

    Archmage Atlantis: Yet I wish contact with other humans

    Eden Haiku: Sorry, I have to leave. Goodnite to all ;-)

    Wol Euler: bye eden, take care

    arabella Ella: nite Eden

    Mickorod Renard: nite Eden

    Bertram Jacobus: bye eden ! ...

    Pila Mulligan: moi ausi

    Bertram Jacobus: nite pila

    Vendy Walpole: can we be all the time one or another category?

    Wol Euler: bye ila

    Vendy Walpole: bye

    arabella Ella: nite Pila

    Mickorod Renard: bye Pila

    Archmage Atlantis: Difficult conversation

    Bertram Jacobus: more or less may be vendy (?) ;-)

    Wol Euler: I think most of us are probably "both and" rather than "either or" much of the time

    Bertram Jacobus: why arch ?

    arabella Ella: Bert I find that question difficult to answer as i feel i am introvert by nature but with experience i may have developed into an apparent extrovert

    Archmage Atlantis: We will see who is strong enough to stay

    Bertram Jacobus: sounds nice to me ara ... (ty) :-)

    arabella Ella: :)

    Bertram Jacobus: will be simple for the extravert people arch (?) ;-)

    Wol Euler: conversation is not wrestling, arch.

    Mickorod Renard: I think we are all things,,maybe at diferent times

    Vendy Walpole: yes Mick

    --BELL--

    Calvino Rabeni: Luckily the world has many types

    Archmage Atlantis: The extroverts never run away?

    Bertram Jacobus: oh yes they do

    Bertram Jacobus: but in different situations i guess

    Calvino Rabeni: Yes the extroverts run away quickly from certain things

    Calvino Rabeni: like interiority

    arabella Ella: i think most people with few exceptions regularly feel fear and anxiety

    Bertram Jacobus: from which for example calvino please ?

    Wol Euler: or silence

    Calvino Rabeni: well ask one to just sit in silence with you. No can do.

    Wol Euler nods to Arra

    arabella Ella: even extroverts may experience lonliness too

    Vendy Walpole: Why is it so hard, what you think Cal?

    Vendy Walpole: to sit in silence

    Calvino Rabeni: Becaus they are outer-directed.

    Bertram Jacobus: i disagree : being extravert must not mean not to like silence

    Calvino Rabeni: The think there is nothing inside.

    Calvino Rabeni: THink it is a waste of time, feel guilty etc.

    arabella Ella: i disagree Calvino i think you are generalising a bit too much

    Bertram Jacobus: i disagree again. sry

    Wol Euler: perhaps there are categories of extravert, true and false.

    Calvino Rabeni: It is a caricature, a generalization.

    Archmage Atlantis: So tell us

    Bertram Jacobus: who ? what arch ?

    Wol Euler: the true are genuinely outgoing, open

    Wol Euler: the false are in need of attention or company and force themselves to seem outgoing and open

    Wol Euler: hte ones calvino was talking about are perhaps the false, the needy

    Calvino Rabeni: Introverts have to manage to show up, against a kind of social stigma

    Mickorod Renard: this is all about putting values on things that act as restraints to freedom

    Bertram Jacobus: nicely said mick

    Bertram Jacobus: (deep breath here) ...

    Bertram Jacobus: and appreciating the quietness ...

    arabella Ella takes in a deep relaxing breath too ... (ty bert)

    Bertram Jacobus: feeling love ... :-)

    Bertram Jacobus: sometimes live seems to be "too loud" to me ... ;-)

    Calvino Rabeni: A characteristic of introvert?

    Wol Euler: or of intelligence :)

    Vendy Walpole: Sometimes freedom can be dangerous, do you remember the movie Society of dead poets?

    Bertram Jacobus: no independend from intro- or extravert in my opinion

    arabella Ella: yes i do Vendy ... brilliant movie

    Wol Euler smiles. yes indeed, a great film.

    Vendy Walpole: I find it brilliant also

    Archmage Atlantis: I must speak

    Wol Euler: please do

    Vendy Walpole: changing the point of view, freedom, so well presentred there

    Archmage Atlantis: We will be fine

    Bertram Jacobus: (don´t know that movie) ...

    Mickorod Renard: feeling love is a big need for most,,its free too,,but we are not very generous with it,,as a species

    Archmage Atlantis: Ah Bert

    Archmage Atlantis: It is our movie

    Bertram Jacobus: oh ?

    Wol Euler: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097165/

    Bertram Jacobus: *click*

    arabella Ella: it's with Robin Williams in a boy's school Bert and first thing he tells them to tear up their text book

    Vendy Walpole: Yes, with Robin Wiliams, please correct my spelling

    Archmage Atlantis: We live a story

    Archmage Atlantis: with music

    Mickorod Renard: I dont think I have seen it

    Vendy Walpole: and as second to climb up on their school desks to change the view

    Archmage Atlantis: and dance

    Mickorod Renard: is it worth a look?

    Bertram Jacobus: "der club der toten dichter" in deutsch ?

    Wol Euler nods to arch.

    Wol Euler: ja, genau

    Vendy Walpole: very much Mick

    Wol Euler: definitely, mick

    arabella Ella: it is Mick

    Bertram Jacobus: okay : i know the movie :o)

    Mickorod Renard: hey guess what,,in uk tommorow,,normal television,,Babel is showing

    Bertram Jacobus: (still thinking abouit archs words - really not new to me!) ...

    Calvino Rabeni: AA, dance can be a challenge for an introvert, I knowthis.

    arabella Ella: Arch i get the feeling you would like to communicate more?

    Archmage Atlantis: M, do you know of the tower of babel?

    Mickorod Renard: the one on the moon?

    --BELL--

    Bertram Jacobus: i think arch the ukltimate is beyond words ( as answer to the movie topic)

    Mickorod Renard: the film Babel was brought up here once cos it has something to do with khama,,or maybe samsara

    Mickorod Renard: please correct my spelling as we go along

    Wol Euler: :)

    Vendy Walpole: Babel sounds familiar to me, can you tell me more what it is about?

    Archmage Atlantis: The people of the book often forget

    Bertram Jacobus: who are "the people of the book" please arch ?

    Mickorod Renard: I think its about some disasters in personal life that are entwined by actions

    Archmage Atlantis: That it is a recording of a story

    Vendy Walpole: worth to be watched?

    Archmage Atlantis: And a story is a remembering

    arabella Ella: if I remember well I saw parts of the movie Babel on a plane once and it is a series of brief snippets related to the theme of 'lost in translation' ... not sure if that is correct

    Mickorod Renard: I found it funny the other day when I saw an article about a tower of Babel on the dark side of the moon

    Bertram Jacobus: lost in translation is so wonderful ! :-))

    Wol Euler: O.O

    Wol Euler: a bit early (or late) for an April Fool's article

    Bertram Jacobus: (it´s a movie, too)

    arabella Ella: yes it is

    Mickorod Renard: some whacky conspiritors story

    Bertram Jacobus: lol. terrible :-)

    Archmage Atlantis: The passing forward of learning

    Mickorod Renard: I love them

    Archmage Atlantis: is in all forms

    Mickorod Renard: like they say,,many a true word spoken in jest

    Mickorod Renard: but I am assured that the film Babel is interesting

    Bertram Jacobus: i enjoyed this talk very much. ty all. now i´ll leave. may be all beings be happy please. and very hopefully, i did not hurt anybody ! ... ?

    Mickorod Renard: Bert,,u are great

    Archmage Atlantis: Then the film speaks to you Mickorod

    Mickorod Renard: bye,,sleep well

    Vendy Walpole: good night Bertram, enjoy

    Bertram Jacobus: ty mick ;-))

    arabella Ella: nite Bert!

    Bertram Jacobus: have a very good time all too please ! :-)

    Vendy Walpole: I think it is time for mice to go to their holes too

    Mickorod Renard: Arch,,do you read neal stephenson books?

    Wol Euler: night vendy, bert

    arabella Ella: nite nite friendly mouse Vendy!

    Wol Euler: ha, I was just looking that up!

    Mickorod Renard: nite Vendy

    Wol Euler: you're about to recommend Snow Crash, right?

    Vendy Walpole: good night all, see you soon

    Wol Euler: bye vendy

    Mickorod Renard: well, I was just thinking of Babel in that story

    Vendy Walpole: bye

    Wol Euler: right!

    Wol Euler: heheheheheheh

    Calvino Rabeni: Bye cute thing

    Mickorod Renard: he he

    Archmage Atlantis: If you recommend one, M, I might

    Wol Euler: yes, arch, Snow Crash, highly recommended. There's a lot of theory about language and thought and Babel in it.

    Mickorod Renard: I love his books,,and his style,,but they are not everyones cup of tea

    Wol Euler nods

    Mickorod Renard: phone

    Archmage Atlantis: It may be worthwhile

    arabella Ella: yes I really enjoyed Snow Crash too ... brilliant read ... lots of food for thought too

    Wol Euler grins

    Wol Euler: we could do a session on that book sometime.

    Archmage Atlantis: So I can speak to to the very young as you are

    arabella Ella: who do you think is young Arch?

    arabella Ella: one of us or all of us?

    Archmage Atlantis: All

    arabella Ella: ah ... thanks for the complement ... and sorry to disappoint you ...

    Wol Euler chuckles.

    Calvino Rabeni: Hopefully, young at heart

    Archmage Atlantis: Come back with me, to eden

    Wol Euler: always, calvino.

    Mickorod Renard: I am young at heart

    arabella Ella: no doubt there Calvino ... of course!

    Archmage Atlantis: And before

    Calvino Rabeni: :)

    Mickorod Renard: snap

    arabella Ella: he he

    Mickorod Renard: phew,,phone call over

    arabella Ella: :)

    --BELL--

    Archmage Atlantis: To when this galaxy was formed

    Archmage Atlantis: It was given into our care

    arabella Ella: yes Arch it was

    arabella Ella: and we treat it so badly ... such a shame ...

    Mickorod Renard: I remember the hand over

    arabella Ella: so sad

    Wol Euler: mmhmm

    arabella Ella: but

    arabella Ella: we must be hopeful too

    arabella Ella: without hope ... we have nothing

    Archmage Atlantis: We are the guardians

    arabella Ella: yes and as guardians we MUST have hope

    Mickorod Renard: was that a queen song?

    Archmage Atlantis: Freddie Mercury was a gay

    Mickorod Renard: at least

    Wol Euler: that#s well known.

    Wol Euler: and irrelevant, some might say.

    arabella Ella nods

    Archmage Atlantis: And a person of middle eastern desent

    Mickorod Renard: thought he was a turkish chap?

    Archmage Atlantis: Fear not

    arabella Ella: so is Boris

    Mickorod Renard: mmm,,thats debatable Ara

    arabella Ella: :)

    Archmage Atlantis: The debate is why we are human

    Archmage Atlantis: Not animals

    arabella Ella: what do you think on that Arch?

    Mickorod Renard: I still thought we were animals

    Archmage Atlantis: We were built on that platform, yes

    Archmage Atlantis: We are still finding the way

    Mickorod Renard: we are so advanced we rely on the cumbersom modes of transport and live in funny homes made of gathered together materials

    Archmage Atlantis: yes

    Mickorod Renard: and we even have to put on funny clothes

    arabella Ella: like when men wear ties ... so useless

    Wol Euler laughs

    Mickorod Renard: cook food,,how odd

    Archmage Atlantis: I have no homes where I live in SL

    Archmage Atlantis: I live in gardens

    arabella Ella loves gardens ...

    Mickorod Renard: ties are very useful

    Archmage Atlantis: I have said this before

    Archmage Atlantis: The wisteria here are vines

    Archmage Atlantis: They strangle the trees

    arabella Ella: creeper plants you mean i think

    Mickorod Renard: yes, I struggled getting a rl one to grow

    arabella Ella: oh ... parasites

    Archmage Atlantis: Yet they have feet

    arabella Ella: yes ... roots on their steps as they entwine other plants

    Archmage Atlantis: If you look at them

    arabella Ella: *stems

    Archmage Atlantis: Human like feet

    Mickorod Renard: I have never noticed

    Mickorod Renard: here in sl,,or Rl?

    Archmage Atlantis: My morning glories were killed by bugs..in RL

    arabella Ella: oh what a pity how sad ... did you replace them?

    --BELL--

    Archmage Atlantis: Yet now the new morning glories are growing and beginnig to bloom

    Archmage Atlantis: Seeded by the first ones

    arabella Ella: sounds lovely Arch

    arabella Ella: amazing how nature works

    arabella Ella: i must go now ... its late here ... nite all

    Wol Euler: my dears, I must go, it's nearly midnight

    Wol Euler: snap :)

    arabella Ella: here too nite Wol nite all :)

    Mickorod Renard: I am heading off too,,I am tryin to sleep more

    Calvino Rabeni: I as well, good night, all.

    Wol Euler: goodnight all, take care.

    Mickorod Renard: goodnite

    Mickorod Renard: and u wol

    arabella Ella: nite Arch nite Calvino

    Mickorod Renard: nite nite Arch

    arabella Ella: (wherever u r in the world)

    Mickorod Renard: nite nite Calvino

    Calvino Rabeni: good night, mick


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