2008.12.26 13:00 - The Party of Awareness

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    Solobill was the guardian for this session; though "present" in absentia...Comments are his though!

    I approached the pavilion to find Scathach already there.  Pila quickly joined us, followed by Wester and Ramana.

    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Solobill
    Solobill Laville: Hiya, Scath, Pila, Wester!
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Wester, Pila
    Wester Kiranov: hi all
    Pila Mulligan: greetings everyone
    Solobill Laville: I have to admit that I am preparing for a party at my house in RL...
    Solobill Laville: So, I may be somewhat "silent"...
    Scathach Rhiadra: :)
    Solobill Laville: My apologies
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Pila Mulligan: no problem Solobill
    Solobill Laville: Hi, Adams
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Adams
    Pila Mulligan: hi Adams
    Adams Rubble: hELLO pILA, sCATHBACH. bILL AND wsESTER :)
    Adams Rubble: Whoops
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Adams Rubble: I hope everyone is having or had a nice boxing day
    Scathach Rhiadra: yes, I did anyway,
    Pila Mulligan: yes, thanks Adams
    Scathach Rhiadra: how was yours?
    Pila Mulligan: hi Ramana
    Adams Rubble: Mine was OK. I had no expectations since I hadn't heard of it before this morning ")
    Adams Rubble: Hello Ramana
    Ramana Sweetwater: Hy! everybody :)
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Ramana
    Pila Mulligan: Boxing Day is not really familiar to me other than by name
    Ramana Sweetwater: Never heard of it as Austrian
    Adams Rubble: It is a day of giving gifts to less fortunate :)
    Pila Mulligan: Ramana has been here once before -- he is an old SL friend
    Adams Rubble: or shopping
    Pila Mulligan: ah charity and shopping -- of course :)
    Ramana Sweetwater: like all this Christmas is an intelligent business idea

    Charity, a Christmas-time practice of some, to depression, another and unfortunate Christmas-time practice of some...

    Pila Mulligan: I suspect the commercialization accounts for some of the depression common at Christmas time
    Adams Rubble: Nice to meet you Ramana
    Adams Rubble: Yes, Pila and the darkness
    Adams Rubble: expectations and darkness
    Ramana Sweetwater: yes nice to meet you :)
    Wester Kiranov: definitely the darkness, it always gets me
    Wester Kiranov: oh, and nice to meet you ;)
    Adams Rubble: Fael made a wonderful observation on solstice day
    Adams Rubble: the ultimate glass half-full statement
    Ramana Sweetwater: I always wonder as German native speaker about the flair of the word darkness, the romantic made in English...
    Adams Rubble: In her country they celebrate the fact that the sun will be coming back
    Ramana Sweetwater: OH, that is what Christmas is based on in Western Christian culture, originally
    Wester Kiranov: in western not-yet-christian culture, actually
    Ramana Sweetwater: right, the romans just wrapped their cult around it
    Adams Rubble: say more about Germans and darkness Ramana, please
    Adams Rubble: or English speakers and darkness
    Ramana Sweetwater: I mean: on SL, especially in profiles or whole sim-styles, there I always find that strange attraction and mythology about "darkness", I really just don't understand what that is really about
    Ramana Sweetwater: what's the fascination?
    Ramana Sweetwater: hard enough to keep the light burning in this world!
    Pila Mulligan: Darth Vader and being attracted to the dark side comes to mind :)
    Ramana Sweetwater: well, but what for? what purpose?
    Adams Rubble wondering if it is less and English speaking thing and more SL
    Ramana Sweetwater: makes everything just difficult
    Pila Mulligan: myth logically, perhaps, it was a pot of gold
    Wester Kiranov: I do guess it's a reaction to all false sweetness and light that's around
    Ramana Sweetwater: ah! I c! I think I get it : contra PC?
    Wester Kiranov: if it's dark, at least it's not pink, neon or glittery
    Adams Rubble will have to take more note of profiles

    Pila switched the gears from darkness to resolutions.

    Pila Mulligan: any new year's resolutions yet?
    Ramana Sweetwater: a very meditative round, not hard to follow the chat ;)
    Ramana Sweetwater: no, no resolutions here :)
    Ramana Sweetwater: will go on smoking :)
    Adams Rubble just got started on Christmas; not ready for new year

    A new visitor joins us.

    Ramana Sweetwater: Hy! Sama!
    SamA Leborski: hi
    Adams Rubble: Hello SamA
    Wester Kiranov: I once had a friend who had the new year resolution to start drinking, smoking and smoking pot
    SamA Leborski: can i sit with you?
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello SamA
    SamA Leborski: hi
    Adams Rubble: yes, please join us SamA
    Wester Kiranov: and he actually did it all on January 1st
    Scathach Rhiadra: heehee:)
    Wester Kiranov: SamA, have you been here before?
    SamA Leborski: no
    SamA Leborski: i was at a party next to here
    SamA Leborski: that's all
    Wester Kiranov: OK
    Ramana Sweetwater: we also have a party here: the party of awareness ;)
    SamA Leborski: yes i prefer it
    SamA Leborski: i dont like dancing
    Ramana Sweetwater: and the higher awareness is very silent ;)
    Wester Kiranov: we do record the conversations here
    Ramana Sweetwater: recording the silence :)

    Fefonz joins the group.

    Adams Rubble: Hello Fefonz
    Ramana Sweetwater: Hy! Fefonz!
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Fefonz
    Fefonz Quan: hello all :)
    Pila Mulligan: hi
    Fefonz Quan: did i come in the middle of the silent session ? :0
    Pila Mulligan: :0
    Pila Mulligan: yes
    Scathach Rhiadra: :)
    Pila Mulligan: but not required -- comments are welcome :)
    Ramana Sweetwater: to better align the mental flight ;)
    Adams Rubble: We were talking about darkness and all got quiet
    Adams Rubble: Either we don't know anything about darkness....
    Ramana Sweetwater: Would everybody talk if we talked about light?
    Adams Rubble: pr we are overwhelmed by it
    Ramana Sweetwater: In Europe on altitude of the alps days are so short this time of the year, absolutely no need for darkness, every small light beam is more attractive
    Pila Mulligan: I'm having a rl snack after just coming inside from a torrential rain, plenty of light, but very wet
    Fefonz Quan: was it visual darkness or inner one or both?
    Ramana Sweetwater: just my question, what fascinates people so much about darkness
    Adams Rubble: And then it went silent :)
    Wester Kiranov: being as far south as the alps sounds attractive, maybe some snow for whiteness...
    Ramana Sweetwater: yes, strange
    Ramana Sweetwater: no snow here, too warm, but cold wind and rain
    Fefonz Quan: a lot of light were i am, though now it's night time.
    Ramana Sweetwater: very dark outside here, living remotely in the country
    Fefonz Quan: maybe the basic experience of darkness (children often fear it) is the unknown
    Fefonz Quan: we don't know what's there when there's no light to see it
    Pila Mulligan: if memory serves, the fifth bardo of the Tibetan Book of the Dean is where one experiences fascination with attractive dark images, primarily sexual
    Pila Mulligan: Dead*
    Pila Mulligan: Dean may have been a Freudian University slip :)
    Ramana Sweetwater: well, the sexual connotation is also given on SL, where I referred to profiles or other descriptive texts
    Wester Kiranov: aren't dim images more attractive than bright ones (except for the enlightened) in that book?
    Pila Mulligan: Wester, it has been so long since
    Pila Mulligan: I read it I've forgotten :0
    Wester Kiranov: So have I
    Fefonz Quan: i thought the bardo stages are meant as a kind of test and as a preparation for the next life
    Fefonz Quan: (out of many obviously)
    Pila Mulligan: however I believe one attribute of the mantra om main padme hum is to neutralize fascination
    Pila Mulligan: yes, Fefonz, a transition experience as I understood it
    Fefonz Quan: mani
    Pila Mulligan: thanks -- typos are my specialty
    Adams Rubble wonders if the darkness is just a metaphor for the state we are in when our "self" runs amok
    Ramana Sweetwater: you knew "fascination" means something like "entorchement"?
    Ramana Sweetwater: fasces, the latin word for torch
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Fefonz Quan: that's nice :)
    Fefonz Quan: the torch of craving after intellectual interest?
    Ramana Sweetwater: well, originally Mussolini reused the word after a few hundreds of years again ;)
    Ramana Sweetwater: fascists are nothing else than fascinated people ;)
    Adams Rubble: Mussolini was only interested in the connotation to Roman power
    Ramana Sweetwater: sure
    Scathach Rhiadra: brb
    Ramana Sweetwater: dancing between the languages I just hear differently and sometimes reflect for others ;)
    Adams Rubble: :)

    Another guest joins, but looking for another related venue...

    Transcriptionist Writer: is this phenomenology?
    Fefonz Quan: talking about appearances, it's also interesting why we connect dark to evil so automatically
    Adams Rubble: Ah, almost Transcription
    Adams Rubble: That is held at the Kira Cafe. Many will be going from here
    Scathach Rhiadra: back
    Pila Mulligan: wb S
    Adams Rubble: This is a Play as Being Session
    Transcriptionist Writer: okay, thanks
    Wester Kiranov: pheno is at kira cafe, at 2
    Ramana Sweetwater: I guess we connect, because light is needed for life, dark only tolerated for some time
    Wester Kiranov: dark is needed too - without sleep we die, and if it's too light that is very hard
    Fefonz Quan: in the dessert the shadow will save you
    Adams Rubble: the yin yang
    Wester Kiranov: dark is also rest, recovery
    Adams Rubble: yes
    Ramana Sweetwater: ok, we have night and are used to it, but if for instance volcanoes produce longtime night, everything 
    can die
    Adams Rubble: of course
    Wester Kiranov: if we would have daylight for months at the time, we wouldn't do too well either
    Adams Rubble: we are evolved to use both
    Adams Rubble: need both
    Ramana Sweetwater: not with our adaption to night, no
    Ramana Sweetwater: so: yes ;)
    Fefonz Quan: Ramana, i guess you are correct on the objective basis, but in our experience today, we manage both of them, so the question remains
    Adams Rubble: Unfortunately I must depart. Nice talking with you all :)
    Adams Rubble: bye everyone :)

    Sexuality and darkness.

    Ramana Sweetwater: I think we touched the point yet with sexuality and that is also a reason for the silence ;)
    Scathach Rhiadra: night Adams
    Ramana Sweetwater: good bye :)
    Fefonz Quan: bye adams
    Wester Kiranov: bye
    Fefonz Quan: so sexuality needs darkness?
    Ramana Sweetwater: hmm, more like an association between the two?
    Wester Kiranov: closing your eyes?
    Fefonz Quan: seems like the association goes through sexuality-wrong-bad-darkness
    Fefonz Quan: (at least for many religions)
    Wester Kiranov: I think it helps to concentrate on touch when it's dark
    Fefonz Quan: so the connection darkness-bad is more basic
    Wester Kiranov: does not even have to be sexual touch
    Ramana Sweetwater: I was talking about fascination, not about dislikes
    Scathach Rhiadra: well there is always fascination with what is perceived to be bad
    Ramana Sweetwater: yes, strange
    Fefonz Quan: not so strange, if the concept of bad makes those things rare,
    Fefonz Quan: and rareness causes intrigue
    Fefonz Quan: it's hard to be fascinated with the common
    Ramana Sweetwater: good explanation
    Scathach Rhiadra: true, the secret or esoteric is much more fascinating
    Fefonz Quan: :)
    Ramana Sweetwater: as European I guess my wondering results from different mental freedom across the atlantic
    Fefonz Quan: could you explain in what sense?
    Ramana Sweetwater: I have the impression like in America sexuality is slightly more suppressed

    Many goodbyes...

    Wester Kiranov: I'm off to the Kira cafe now. bye & thanks
    Ramana Sweetwater: good bye :)
    Scathach Rhiadra: see you later
    Wester Kiranov: namaste
    Fefonz Quan: bye,
    Ramana Sweetwater: alohe
    Ramana Sweetwater: aloha
    Scathach Rhiadra: think I'll head to the cafe too
    Fefonz Quan: i'll go to the cafe too
    Scathach Rhiadra: see you all later
    Ramana Sweetwater: enjoy :)
    Fefonz Quan: c u later
    Ramana Sweetwater: yes, c u
    Ramana Sweetwater: good morning Pila :)
    Pila Mulligan: back from rl phone call
    Ramana Sweetwater: yes, and everybody left to the cafe
    Ramana Sweetwater: that was quick :)
    Pila Mulligan: the electric just went off in the storm -- need to log off now from the battery back up:)
    Ramana Sweetwater: ok, nice to have met you :)
    Pila Mulligan: see you next time
    Ramana Sweetwater: Bye Solobill, but I guess you are afk ;)

    Indeed I was Ramana, thanks!

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