2011.01.01 19:00 - What is the 'hello' time tax?

The Guardian for this meeting was Pema Pera. The comments are by Pema Pera.

Pema Pera: hi Arch & O
oO0Oo Resident: hi! oops!
Archmage Atlantis: Hello O, Hello Pema
oO0Oo Resident: there
Pema Pera: you landed, O :-)
oO0Oo Resident: :)
Pema Pera: Hi Ewan!
oO0Oo Resident: Hi Ewan
Archmage Atlantis: Hi Ewan
Ewan Bonham: Hi Folks!
Pema Pera: O, you were here recently a few times while we talked about the 9-second breaks -- may I ask, did you get a chance to try them out yourself?
Archmage Atlantis: Et tu, Cal.......um, I mean....hello Cal
Pema Pera: hi Calvino and Bleu!
Bleu Oleander: hi everyone :)
oO0Oo Resident: in RL? not yet Pema
Archmage Atlantis: Hi, Bleu
Archmage Atlantis: Hi Tame;
Calvino Rabeni: Hi everyone
Pema Pera: I would be eager to hear how it would go, O -- and it takes only 9 seconds, so it is not that much work :)
oO0Oo Resident: Hi Cal, Bleu, Tame
Pema Pera: wow, such a crowd on a Saturday night, more than usual!

Haha, Bleu provided the obvious key:

Bleu Oleander: must be a holiday :)
oO0Oo Resident: not too taxing no, Pema, I can afford the time gift
Pema Pera: hi Pila, Happy New Year :)
Bleu Oleander: hi Pila :)
Pila Mulligan: greetings, hauoli makahiki hou :)
Pema Pera: haha, Bleu, you may have a point!
Bleu Oleander: hope everyone had a nice new years :)
Pema Pera: yes, O, time is such a strange thing . . .
oO0Oo Resident: ty
Pema Pera: sure did, Bleu, how about you?
Bleu Oleander: very nice, quiet
Pema Pera: hi Steve!
Bleu Oleander: hi steve :)
Pila Mulligan: hi Steve, happy 2011
stevenaia Michinaga: Happy New Year
Archmage Atlantis: Falling behind on my hellos
oO0Oo Resident: hi stevenaia
Pema Pera: I like your new Snowwhite dress, Steve!
stevenaia Michinaga: (in case you forgot)
druth Vlodovic: hey y'all
Bleu Oleander: hi druth
Pema Pera: and hey, Tarmel, happy New Year!
stevenaia Michinaga: thx, another shopping adventure
Bleu Oleander: hi Tarmel, HNY!!
Pila Mulligan: hi Tarmel
stevenaia Michinaga: I liked last night log Pema, a nice way to begin the new year... at the begining
Tarmel Udimo: Hi All! Happy New 2011
Pema Pera: oh, thank you, Steve!
Pema Pera: (and remind me, what was that about?)
Pema Pera: (I recently attended many sessions again!)
stevenaia Michinaga: you discuss the 9 seconds and the 90 seconds here

That must have been the log of 11/1/1 at 1 am -- indeed at the very beginning :-)

Pema Pera: ah yes
Pema Pera: three years ago we talked about that regularly
Archmage Atlantis: Did the New Year finally pass the international date line, so we can be in the same virtual day once more :)
stevenaia Michinaga: nice to get re-grounded about the begining
Pema Pera: but I guess by now the oldtimers are used to it, so the newtimers may never hear about it :-)
oO0Oo Resident nods at steve
Tarmel Udimo: (well ours happened 2 days ago:)
stevenaia Michinaga: Pila was the last one to see the new year
Pema Pera: yes in did, Arch! It's already afternoon of the 2nd here in Japan
Pema Pera: *it
stevenaia Michinaga: Closest to the dateline
Tarmel Udimo: ah you too pema
Pema Pera: and yes, for you time, Tarmel!
Pila Mulligan: hi ermione
Tarmel Udimo: hi
Tarmel Udimo: how festive everything looks
Tarmel Udimo: who did the decorations?
stevenaia Michinaga: Aphrodite
Pila Mulligan: :)
Bleu Oleander: happens :)
Pila Mulligan: Felice Anno Nuovo in her memory then
stevenaia Michinaga: japan is very far away
Archmage Atlantis: That is still a good topic Pema
Pema Pera: Arch, have you played with the 9-sec breaks?
Archmage Atlantis: being included, tho technology and rl create differences.
Archmage Atlantis: Yes, Pema, played for sure
Pema Pera: how did it go?
--BELL--
Archmage Atlantis: Let me consider that
Pila Mulligan: h StarrBuzz -- happy new year and 1st day in SecondLife

Pila noticed that StarrBuzz was born that day.

StarrBuzz Resident: thanks! happy to you as well!
Archmage Atlantis: When I was open to a new experience, it made it more
stevenaia Michinaga: welcome to Second Life
oO0Oo Resident: Yes, welcome StarrBuzz
Pila Mulligan: hi Rhiannon
Bleu Oleander: hi Rhia
Pema Pera: Hi StarrBuzz, welcome! We get together a few times a day to chat about the nature of reality, and everything else, and we have a wiki http://wiki.playasbeing.org/ -- We record our conversations there. Do you mind being included in our blogs?
Pema Pera: hi Rhia!
StarrBuzz Resident: thats great thanks
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi Pila
Rhiannon Dragoone: Hi Bleu
oO0Oo Resident: Hi Rhi
Pema Pera: thanks, Star!
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi Samud
Pema Pera: and thanks, Arch! Yes, I recognize that
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi Cal, durth, Ewan, and everyone else who didn't say hi to me
Pema Pera: taking short breaks can amplify your situation at that time
Tarmel Udimo: Hi
Pema Pera: make you more open when you feel open -- and also making you more aware of closedness
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi Tarmel
Ewan Bonham: Hello, Rhia...not that the greeting wasn't said at some level..:)
Rhiannon Dragoone smiles at Ewan
oO0Oo Resident: Yes, strange about time Pema *giggles*
oO0Oo Resident: what is the 'hello' time tax?

And so the title for this session was born, and Rhiannon would give a nice twist to the idea.

Pema Pera: haha, a sneaky new addition?
oO0Oo Resident: but friendly
Pema Pera: hi Eliza!
Pila Mulligan: hi Eliza
Rhiannon Dragoone: I think Obama is still negotiating with the Republicans about the hello tax; they oppose it
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi Eliza!
Bleu Oleander: hi Eliza
oO0Oo Resident: hi Eliza
Ewan Bonham: Hi Eliza
Pema Pera: (^_^) @ Rhia
Tarmel Udimo: smile at Rhi
Tarmel Udimo: hi eliza
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Everyone!
Eliza Madrigal: Tarmel too, wow :)
druth Vlodovic: nice wings eliza :)
Tarmel Udimo: yep, didn't expect anyone here:)
Tarmel Udimo: but everyone is:)
Eliza Madrigal: :) druth, thank you... maybe a little too much party, hah
Rhiannon Dragoone: i can't see sthem throughh steve's wonderful display
Pema Pera: I haven't seen so many of us at my usual Saturday night yession -- Bleu has this strange theory that it may be related to holidays :-)
Pema Pera: *session
Rhiannon Dragoone: yeah, i was thrown for a loop when i saw all the people
Bleu Oleander: avatars on holiday :)
Ewan Bonham: Well, a New Begginning..:)
Eliza Madrigal: don't let me interrupt of course, but nice to see everyone on New Years day :)
Rhiannon Dragoone: And i can actually *see* all the people; no clouds
druth Vlodovic: did they celebrate the new year in Japan? I understand they have a different calendar for holidays
stevenaia Michinaga: Holiday theoy?
Calvino Rabeni: was it suggested, we could dispense with some hello's and use the time for 9 seconds of awareness of reality?
Pema Pera: oh yes, Druth, the New Year is *the* big holiday time in Japan
Rhiannon Dragoone: druth, all countries now celebrate this holiday as a world wide celebration, even if it's not Newy Year's per se; China and Vietnam go into the act this year
Pema Pera: and they now celebrate it at the Western time (used to be Chinese time)
stevenaia Michinaga: seems a party is universal
Pila Mulligan: was lunar calendar time :)
Pema Pera: oh, perhaps we have time for both, Calvino :-)
Rhiannon Dragoone: Pema, they celebrate both New Years
Rhiannon Dragoone: It's like there's a global one now, and regional ones
Eliza Madrigal: whose hellos shall we dispense with? heheh
Tarmel Udimo: yes that would make sense
druth Vlodovic: any excuse for a party, just the right attitude :)
Tarmel Udimo: not the hellos the celebrations:)
Pema Pera: :-)
Eliza Madrigal grins
Rhiannon Dragoone: Eiza, not mine, i treasure my hellos. It means i'm accepted. :)
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Ewan Bonham: Maybe we can each take 9 seconds and give a genuine and universal Hello..:)

I missed Ewan's idea, since my sentenced arrived almost simultaneously with his; it would have been an interesting exploration to focus on genuine hellos -- perhaps some other time?

Pema Pera: but talking about 9 sec (or 90 seconds) -- shall we use the next break to sit back, relax, and do the old PaB thing -- try to drop what we have to see what we are?
Pema Pera: As if we did it for the very first time?
Rhiannon Dragoone: Hello, hola, aloha; Gruss Gott; hi, how areya
Eliza Madrigal: Yes, sure !
stevenaia Michinaga: sounds good
Archmage Atlantis: Back to basics :)
oO0Oo Resident: wazzzup!
druth Vlodovic: then we can say hello to the new person we find ourselves to be
Eliza Madrigal: :)
oO0Oo Resident: nice
Pema Pera: hahaha, nice Druth!
Ewan Bonham: ㋡ Druth..
--BELL--
stevenaia Michinaga: I have often wondered about the methods to an end, like "opening up" and 9/90 seconds and how simple a method little meditatative moments can be to get there
Archmage Atlantis: Centering
Eliza Madrigal: wonderful... brought me back to a sense of the first moments of the day
stevenaia Michinaga: just a moment to allow what you hold on to , to melt away
Ewan Bonham: Felt I released myself from anxiety that I was hanging onto..
Pema Pera: I listened to the sound of a hanging scroll softing hitting the wall at irregular times, responding to a small draft; it was like a drain catching random thoughts.
Tarmel Udimo: nice pema
oO0Oo Resident: nice image Pema
Pema Pera: nice sense, melting, Steve
Bleu Oleander: interesting how the 90 secs goes so fast ... when I first started in PaB the pauses seems endless
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Pema Pera: :-)
Tarmel Udimo: nods
Pila Mulligan: about a week ago I planted a new tree here and began lavishing affection on it daily to help it become established ... I rememebred how earlier today I saw it had that special glow of vitality living things can have, felt good :)
Archmage Atlantis: Still got the same frogs, birds and other life.....still sound nice
Rhiannon Dragoone: Sometimes, you need to breathe, and almost go in a trance; i fi hadn't today, i woiuld have thought it sucked; i went to a discussion this morning, wich required voice and myh voice was out; i could only get music and ambiant sounds; then a pipe broke in my house and i had a flood. But with meditation, even for an instnat, or while i was mopping up, i felt capable
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, love when 9 seconds is to long and 90 seconds can be to little
Bleu Oleander: aims for that glow of vitality every day Pila :)
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Pila Mulligan: :)
Pema Pera: yes, Rhia, those switches can be instantaneous!
Pema Pera: and yes, Steve, the 9 seconds can become mini eternities
Pema Pera: vacations in fact
oO0Oo Resident: hope not too much damage Rhi
Rhiannon Dragoone: Samud, no some toweling, have the fire roaring to dry things out, and I won't be able to do laundry today.
Eliza Madrigal: when several things happen at once I think one notices a practice like this sort of 'kick in' responsively... give some perspective somehow... maybe a laugh at times

Yes: the neat thing about doing something dozens of times a day, no matter how short, is that after a while it gets under your sking, "kicking in" without effort or expectation.

Tarmel Udimo: deeply agrees:)
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, laughs arise from special places, they find you
Pema Pera: yes, it's funny how collisions of too many things can let all things drop . . . .
oO0Oo Resident: with luck, humour arises
Calvino Rabeni: dropping the unimportant things to have freedom to pick up the important ones
Eliza Madrigal: well there is a kind of 'why me' thing that seems begins to seem silly
stevenaia Michinaga: humor opens you up by displacing something else, usually seriousness
Eliza Madrigal: seems or begins to seem*
Calvino Rabeni: noticing the different organization of self between Doing and Being modes
Eliza Madrigal nods
Calvino Rabeni: the "re-entry" is interesting
Tarmel Udimo: nods
Calvino Rabeni: putting it all back together
Ewan Bonham: Yes, the coming in and taking in process..
Rhiannon Dragoone: well, a crisis, no matter how minor, can get you in the doing mode
Rhiannon Dragoone: And being a westerneer, for me "To be is to do"
Rhiannon Dragoone hopes no one does theold Sartre, Heidegger, Sinatra thing
Ewan Bonham: I am finding being comes first, then the doing becomes less effort..
Eliza Madrigal: :) Rhi
stevenaia Michinaga: re-entry is like a re-filling of the emptyness for me Cal, aways amazed what re-emergies after
Eliza Madrigal holds back

I picked up Calvino's "re-entry" idea.

Pema Pera: Interesting point, Calvino -- how about using the next 90-sec break to do the same, going from having to being, but then paying special attention on the "re-entry" back to normal, so to speak, as Calvino suggested?
Calvino Rabeni: nice idea
Pema Pera: and yes, seconding Steve :)
--BELL--
Archmage Atlantis: Each entity has e
Archmage Atlantis: And e
Archmage Atlantis: has e's own pat
Archmage Atlantis: Apologize
oO0Oo Resident: sorry arch
oO0Oo Resident: :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Archmage Atlantis: The mind activated the fingers
Archmage Atlantis: before the bell sounded
Pema Pera: like a new vacation in the middle of a vacation -- to come back to a newer old world :-)
stevenaia Michinaga: the eyes opening activates reality
Pema Pera: (the re-entry)
Tarmel Udimo: wow that was restful!
Ewan Bonham: Yes..
Eliza Madrigal nodding, thankful
druth Vlodovic: it's not always restful, if there are things that think of themselves as immediate
Pema Pera: nicely put, druth! thoughts do seem to think themselves often . . .
Tarmel Udimo: sure I had a few of those but managed to leave them alone:)
Ewan Bonham: It is always a form of effort to me..
Rhiannon Dragoone: druth, well, the trick is to go into trance; a kind of "mindfulnes," I'd guess you'd say
Pema Pera: can you say more, Ewan?
Ewan Bonham: Oh, the focus is not just a clearing of the mind...
Ewan Bonham: It is also allowing myself to immerse in the point of focus ..
Ewan Bonham: So it can come into my senses..
Ewan Bonham: This to me requires a keen focus ..

Rhia added an important perspective:

Rhiannon Dragoone: I think the trick is also defocusing
Eliza Madrigal slips out quietly. Namaste' and Happy New Year everyone (must go) Thank you (please don't type byes ;-))
Pila Mulligan also must quietly slip away for a rl matter -- happy new year :)
Pema Pera: non-bye to Eliza :-)
Ewan Bonham: I have found without such focus, I actually feel more restless after these periods..
Pema Pera: interesting, Ewan!
Pema Pera: it's a subtle interplay . . .
Pema Pera: do you feel that with practice it becomes easier?
Ewan Bonham: Oh, Yes...I do it several times a day...just for short periods..:)
Ewan Bonham: I enjoy it...likea re-balance..
Pema Pera: what happens exactly when you try to non-focus -- is it similar each time?
Rhiannon Dragoone: Pema, i'm assuming you're talkiing to me; well, by non-focus i mean Hak-u-lau, a state of extended awareness; you distance yourself from the anxiety, are aware of all details around you; time sppeds up or slows down depending
Ewan Bonham: At the end of the time, the non-focus is almost like waking from a sleep..
Pema Pera: and then what happens, Ewan?
Rhiannon Dragoone: Yes, from grogginess; anyway
Calvino Rabeni: Choose your trance, it seems
Rhiannon Dragoone: oh, you weren't talking to me; sorry, lag and aIaM's
Rhiannon Dragoone: Sorry.
Pema Pera: np, Rhiannon, we can all join in!
Archmage Atlantis: I heard that as the dreamtime, not as sleep
Rhiannon Dragoone makes a zipping motion to her liips
oO0Oo Resident: lol rhi
Ewan Bonham: Oh, afterwards, I notice my internal process..often refreshed...and rythym within me is slowed...
Bleu Oleander: night all .... nice to see everyone and happy new year :)
Rhiannon Dragoone: nite Bleu
Ewan Bonham: nit leu
Pema Pera: sleep well, Bleu!
oO0Oo Resident: bye bleu
Rhiannon Dragoone: When I am in Hak-U-lau, i can remote sense, as well as know what'a all around me; i'm more coordinated, less anxiety
Calvino Rabeni nods
Rhiannon Dragoone: Pema, i know we can all join in; but ii was answering your question and you wanted Ewan's answer

I picked up on Rhia's idea of non-focus:

Pema Pera: shall we all try to non-focus, during the next 90 seconds break, those who can stay for a few minutes more?
Ewan Bonham: nod..
stevenaia Michinaga: what is "Hak-U-lau"
oO0Oo Resident: sure
Tarmel Udimo: nods
Pema Pera: no further method or instructions -- each in our own way :-)
stevenaia Michinaga: smiles
Archmage Atlantis: Agree. {{ema
--BELL--
Pema Pera: I felt my eyes grow soft, as if leaning back in their sockets, while my field of view seemed to open up, becoming wider
Tarmel Udimo: I felt everything relax internally
Rhiannon Dragoone: i looke through the roots of my eys, as my peripheral vision takes over and i can actually sense things behind me; even though i am legally blind, i can drive in this state
Calvino Rabeni nods, same experience Pema, and I had the phrase "Soft Eyes" in mind for a bit during it
oO0Oo Resident: yes, a kind of expansion of awareness, paired with being more proximal to my RL body for me
Rhiannon Dragoone: For me, it's like the anxiety is out there in the world, apart from me
Rhiannon Dragoone: And i'm also aware that someone among us has a serious illness; or maybe someone close to him or her does; i sense a black, swirling cloud
Pema Pera: how interesting, O, to experience the SL - RL connection that way
Pema Pera: and fascinating, that several of us shared that soft eye sensation
Calvino Rabeni: I noticed how much SL takes me to an"out of body" experience, and its a bit unpleasant
Ewan Bonham: Felt an awakening in all senses...as if inner energy was flowing better..
oO0Oo Resident: for me too Cal
Rhiannon Dragoone: well, it depends on what you mean by soft eyes--my eyes relax
Rhiannon Dragoone: It does relieve blockages,Ewan
Calvino Rabeni: soft eyes is diffuse focus and field awareness with propioception for me
Ewan Bonham: ㋡ Rhia
Calvino Rabeni: peripheral vision is a whole different somatic mode
Rhiannon Dragoone: Yes, proprioceptics is enhanced; and no, Cal, it is not, not for my defocus, anyway
Rhiannon Dragoone: I defocus into extended awareness
Tarmel Udimo: gee its been nice catching with and seeing everyone, its been a while..., but now I must go see you agin in this hopefully wonderful NY..
Tarmel Udimo: *again
Ewan Bonham: Bye Tamel..:)
Pema Pera: bey Tarmel!
Tarmel Udimo: bye for now all
oO0Oo Resident: ty Tarmel, and for you too
Tarmel Udimo: nice to see you Pema:)
stevenaia Michinaga: night all
oO0Oo Resident: bye stevenaia
Rhiannon Dragoone: bye steve!
Pema Pera: bye Steve
Rhiannon Dragoone: tc Tarmel; it was nice seeing you

Time for me to take off as well.  The session would continue for a few more hours, I would see later!

Pema Pera: I have to take off too
oO0Oo Resident: I read a quote today that reminded me of BaB: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy." -- Guillaume Apollinaire
Pema Pera: thank you all for talking and exploring and being here!
Rhiannon Dragoone: oh, tc Pema
Calvino Rabeni: thats a good quote 0
Pema Pera: hahaha, what a great quote, O !
Ewan Bonham: Nice seeing you Pema..:)
oO0Oo Resident: ty Pema, soft scrolls drain
Pema Pera: :-)
Pema Pera: bfn
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi Rue!
Rue Moonwall: Hi Rhia,
Rhiannon Dragoone: ur welcome, Pema
Rhiannon Dragoone: I get the impression that i've been on a different wavelength than you all tonight
Rhiannon Dragoone: Nobody's really commented on my defocusing
Calvino Rabeni: I did
Rhiannon Dragoone: Cal, that might have been when my magnifier went bezerk; what did you say?
Rue Moonwall: You mind defocusing, or unwinding?
Rhiannon Dragoone: oh, that you think using peripheral vision is a different somatic modality than defocusing?
oO0Oo Resident: There were some prophetic remarks you made Rhi...
Rhiannon Dragoone: Well, not for me.
--BELL--
Rhiannon Dragoone: Samud, prophetic remarks? I recall sensing someone in distress, either over himself, or someone close
Rue Moonwall: Well we have so many items on our table now a days, it seem that there is no end to focusing and refocusing, we havent finish learning something when is allready obsolete
oO0Oo Resident: Another quote reminded me of SL, and PaB within SL: "Only those who take leisurely what the people of the world are busy about can be busy about what the people of the world take leisurely." -- Chang Chao
Rhiannon Dragoone: Yes, and that's why defocusing is so important, rue
druth Vlodovic: I wouldn't mind hearing the how's of hak-u-lau
Rue Moonwall: is not going to happen any time in the near future, tech is accelarating everything, even this 3 hours I spend at night in sl, I use to spend it in bed watching tv,
druth Vlodovic: but if we do everything quickly we have a hard time doing things deeply
Calvino Rabeni: The technological treadmill
Ewan Bonham: Yes, Druth...important point..
oO0Oo Resident: perhaps a good segway to hak-u-lau
Rhiannon Dragoone: Well, first, you look at a 45 degree angle about 15 degress in front of you; then you pick spots to your loeft and right, at the edge of your awareness; that's where the peripheral vision comes in, then you extend it back, until you sense what's behind you; relax into it with deep breathes and let it happen. It can slow down time or speed it up; i'm about 35% more responsive in sparriing when I'm in it; it eleminates my anxiety, and helps my remote viewing or sensing
Calvino Rabeni: someone keeps pressing the "faster" button on the treadmill
Calvino Rabeni: And with 0's quote comes the idea of the people who are distanced, disconnected from the mainstream and their role in the whole
Rhiannon Dragoone: Cal, and in Hak-u-lau, you can keep on slowing down time
Rue Moonwall: well , quickly and deeply, are not exactly in the same wave lenght, but thats a bigger problem today then before, you have to learn more, and fastr
Rue Moonwall: faster
Calvino Rabeni: what's your style Rhi
Calvino Rabeni: your art
Rhiannon Dragoone: oh, kenpo-kung fu, as taught by an ex special forces instructor
Rhiannon Dragoone: Ichi mu kung fu you might call it
Rue Moonwall: Your in the special force Rhia?
Calvino Rabeni: ok, when you're sparring, and in a melee, what do you do to unclump the perceptions?
Rhiannon Dragoone: Rue, they don't take women in special forces. ::looks up and whistles::
Rue Moonwall: lol
Rhiannon Dragoone: And the agency i worked for just loves PhD's, and does take women
Rue Moonwall: you have a Phd, I presume
Rhiannon Dragoone: You presume right
Rue Moonwall: lol
Rue Moonwall: May I ask in what?
Calvino Rabeni: In the martial arts you have an excellent experimental phenomenology field with the opportunity for immediate feedback
Rue Moonwall: Marketing?
Rue Moonwall: lol
Rue Moonwall: Politics
Rhiannon Dragoone: hey, i've got to get going. Philosophy Rue; and Cal yes, experimental, i would say behavioral phenomenology; instnat feedback; you do it wrong, you get hit
Calvino Rabeni: short, medium, and long frame time also
Rhiannon Dragoone: Cal, yes
Rhiannon Dragoone: Well, i really havae to go
Rhiannon Dragoone: so happy new year agaiin!
Rue Moonwall: NIght, Rhia
oO0Oo Resident: be well in that special force that is Rhi, Rhi
Calvino Rabeni: :) Bye Rhia
Ewan Bonham: Nite Rhia..
Rue Moonwall: So part of defocusing, is also slowing down the feed back
Rue Moonwall: control the information entering your senses
Rue Moonwall: to a tolerable level, so you can relax, some people have forgotent how to relax!
--BELL--
Calvino Rabeni: Still thinking about what Rue said
oO0Oo Resident: there's a lot there
Calvino Rabeni: Yes
druth Vlodovic: you'd hear the things hiding inside
Rue Moonwall: WE have forgoten how to relax!
oO0Oo Resident: druth?
Calvino Rabeni: Intentional slowing down can help as a practice, but on the other hand it's possible to relax no matter the "speed"
oO0Oo Resident: Oh I think I understand
Rue Moonwall: Well Calvino, you have to have a quiet enviroment,
Calvino Rabeni: Only as a starting point
Rue Moonwall: control your internal chatter!
Calvino Rabeni: its like clearing the table before starting a new project
Rue Moonwall: Clear you mind, god can only live in a quiet mind
oO0Oo Resident: Dr. Gabor Maté is really good in this area
Rue Moonwall: The devil trives in chaos, noise, the devil feels at home in chaos
Calvino Rabeni: Well I have to say there are a couple of notions that may not be really helpful in the long run, and one is that the mind has internal chatter, and the other is that the subconscious is full of suppressed chaos, and those are pretty close to the same idea as the idea that external reality is a blooming chaos until we intterpret it
Rue Moonwall: Well calvino, there is the concious, THE SUBCONCIONS, and the unconcious, the subconcious is rith at the edge! the sub concious may be the door to the unconcious
Rue Moonwall: The subconcious, right at the pehrifiral of concious and unconcious
Calvino Rabeni: yeah
Rue Moonwall: So focus on the sub concious periferal it may be the door to the unconcious
Rue Moonwall: meditation
oO0Oo Resident: there are many elements here: speed of society, trauma, neurosis, hyper-vigilance preventing relaxation, perhaps as result of Post trauma. If I understood druth correctly, also the sense of being in the stillness will bring us face to face with things, perhaps difficult to deal with
Calvino Rabeni: nice survey 0
Calvino Rabeni: that focuses on a kind of neurophilosophy perspective
oO0Oo Resident: in some cases we cannot remember relaxation, because it is already constellated in our bodies
oO0Oo Resident: that way
oO0Oo Resident: not so much an immediate choice
Calvino Rabeni: but I also have been finding the social construction perspective interesting lately ... maybe we can get to it another time ...
oO0Oo Resident: but the way many modern societies are set up
Rue Moonwall: You may have to find profecianal who know what his doing before you go into the unconcious, into the obiss, witch you may never come out off
oO0Oo Resident: it is not conducive to relearn, relaxation
Rue Moonwall: You may find your worse night mare in your unconcious, and if your not ready to handle it?
Calvino Rabeni: tension and relaxation of the kind that matters is constellated outside immediate awareness
oO0Oo Resident: better to make friends with it
Calvino Rabeni: yes
Calvino Rabeni: I feel the friendly regard and its terms are more helpful
Calvino Rabeni: and not to be afraid of the "dark"
Calvino Rabeni: or carry resentment about experiences such as "confusion"
Rue Moonwall: Sure positive attittue, is much more healing
Calvino Rabeni: We may be able to appreciate a state of "blessed confusion"
--BELL--
Rue Moonwall: Scienctifically has been proven 100 of times, such as the placebo effect
Ewan Bonham: Thank you so much...I must take my leave..
Calvino Rabeni: Bye, thanks Ewan, see you later
Ewan Bonham: Good night to you all..:)
Rue Moonwall: night
oO0Oo Resident: :)
Calvino Rabeni: I'm AFK a while, calvino will be a zombie for some time, sorry :)
Rue Moonwall: ha ha ha, energetic meditation!
Rue Moonwall: night all,
Rue Moonwall: take care,
druth Vlodovic: I've lived with an abuse "survivor", it was interesting to see her healing progression
druth Vlodovic: each positive step seemed to lead to more disaster
druth Vlodovic: but after a bit it seemed to me that her subconscious was doling out the pain according to what it thought her present strength was
druth Vlodovic: I wonder if this makes the darkness less inherently dangerous
druth Vlodovic: as long as your internal instincts are good
oO0Oo Resident: healing is a strong force in us
oO0Oo Resident: it doesn't always take the shape we might expect
druth Vlodovic: it seemed to help her when I mentioned this idea
oO0Oo Resident: how was it living with the person druth?
druth Vlodovic: awful :(
druth Vlodovic: lol
druth Vlodovic: it's hard not to be affected
oO0Oo Resident: yes
oO0Oo Resident: agreed
oO0Oo Resident: one needs to be able to take care of oneself within that
druth Vlodovic: one must always have an eye to their own strength, development, needs
oO0Oo Resident: :)
druth Vlodovic: but thinking of that it means I don't have to be afraid of what I might find inside
oO0Oo Resident: by doing so, others feel the sanity and support of that
druth Vlodovic: though I worry sometimes what effect it might have on others while I'm delving
oO0Oo Resident: maybe you need nither delve nor suppress, but allow to come up from the basement, whatever wishes to
oO0Oo Resident: then offer it tea
oO0Oo Resident: with gentleness to yourself, and your friend
--BELL--
druth Vlodovic: better :)
druth Vlodovic: "O" or "sam" I can't help thiking of you as "oooh!" :)
oO0Oo Resident: lol OK no problem
oO0Oo Resident: :)
druth Vlodovic: what does te name mean?
oO0Oo Resident: Samúð is Icelandic for 'empathy', sometimes 'compassion', and oO0Oo is whatever you want it to mean lol
oO0Oo Resident: a nice shape?
oO0Oo Resident: a blank slate?
druth Vlodovic: an expression of wonder :)
oO0Oo Resident bows head and feels graced
druth Vlodovic: lol, I almost asked you where you're from, I haven't decided yet if that is a moral thing to so in sl
oO0Oo Resident: see my profile
druth Vlodovic: ah yes
oO0Oo Resident: hi paradise
druth Vlodovic: to the person I ask it is a matter of them saying "yes" or "no"
druth Vlodovic: hi paradise
druth Vlodovic: but to SL it seems a reduction of it's potential to do without preconception
Paradise Tennant: hiya druth 00000 cal arch :)) happy new year all :)
druth Vlodovic: happy new year :)
oO0Oo Resident: to ask these questions is to show a moral sensibility
oO0Oo Resident: happy new year Para
Paradise Tennant: listens
oO0Oo Resident: :)
druth Vlodovic: aww, I was hoping for another opinion
Paradise Tennant: preconception ....??
--BELL--
druth Vlodovic: is asking for a person's point of origin doing violence to SL's potential do circumvent preconception?
Paradise Tennant: ahh where they live
Paradise Tennant: hmm no
druth Vlodovic: no?
Paradise Tennant: well it is so general
Paradise Tennant: that it would be hard to have preconception unless one is harbouring courtry based biasis ?
Paradise Tennant: hard to make a connection knowing absolutely knowing about the individual's origin
Paradise Tennant: do you not think ?
druth Vlodovic: I like the word "heuristics", harder to spell, but emotionally neutral
Paradise Tennant: smiles there are so many great words that do not get used very often :)_
druth Vlodovic: but if you "talk" here, I know what you tell me
druth Vlodovic: and I know how you present yourself
druth Vlodovic: is that not enough to start a connection?
Paradise Tennant: yes the choices people make appearance, behaviour are very telling indeed :)
Paradise Tennant: well handy to know the time zone :)
Paradise Tennant: what I like about sl is it gives you little tastes of the world
druth Vlodovic: yes, that makes it interesting to know where people are from
Paradise Tennant: I have friend in cairo when the air conditioning in his office breaks down it can go to 120 in the building they do not think much of that :) i would :)
Paradise Tennant: another in new delhi
Paradise Tennant: wakes up to roosters crowing
Paradise Tennant: dogs barking
Paradise Tennant: another in berlin :) smiles and a firm conviction they have the best coffee in the world :)
druth Vlodovic: lol
druth Vlodovic: have to ask her to send you some :)
Paradise Tennant: all engaging day to day minutaie of life . that are connective that you do not get if you don't venture into that more personal territory
Paradise Tennant: preconception is something you can wean yourself form
Paradise Tennant: from
Paradise Tennant: do predictive analysis for a living ..
Paradise Tennant: start every job .. with a blank page
Paradise Tennant: three columns what I need to know what I think i know and what I really know
Paradise Tennant: do that regularly and you quickly come to the conclusion that you never really know much :))
oO0Oo Resident: thx for the model/tool para. Interesting.
Paradise Tennant: smiles
druth Vlodovic: I find it odd how easy it is to understand people of diverse backgrounds
Paradise Tennant: lol
Paradise Tennant: smiles a very big smiles :)
Paradise Tennant: yes!
Paradise Tennant: we are not so diverse :) I suspect
Paradise Tennant: all the perceived differences are very superficial
druth Vlodovic: all humans at some level
Paradise Tennant: male female
Paradise Tennant: old young
Paradise Tennant: yes
Paradise Tennant: in the deerper layers all made of the same stuff .. which I think goes for all sentient life really
oO0Oo Resident: Yes, Cal said something interesting about this if I can remember... You there Cal?
--BELL--
oO0Oo Resident fids silent farewells
Paradise Tennant: good nite 00000 :) namaste :)
Paradise Tennant: what I find interesting .. is how fast you can connect with some people
Paradise Tennant: you know it feels like you have known them a very very long time and you have just met :)
druth Vlodovic: yes, it's not always length of association that counts
druth Vlodovic: and it sems to be established very early when you meet someone how close you will get
Paradise Tennant: openess .. affinity ..similarities .. honesty .. :) yes
Paradise Tennant: yes you either click or you do not
Paradise Tennant: takes a lot more work to connect with people where you do not hear the click
Paradise Tennant: but often very worthwhile
Paradise Tennant: too
Calvino Rabeni: Hi Paradise :)
Paradise Tennant: smiles sometimes our preconceptions can get in the way of the connections
druth Vlodovic: yes, instinct is good, but not an absolute method
Paradise Tennant: hiya cal happy new year :)
Calvino Rabeni: Thanks!
druth Vlodovic: wb cal :)
Calvino Rabeni: :)
Calvino Rabeni is now having a back-in-out-of-body experience
Calvino Rabeni: Long session :)
druth Vlodovic: a friend mentioned that he will meet people who he would meet in rl, but not really make friends with, but meet similar people in sl and be close
Paradise Tennant: smiles and listens :)
Paradise Tennant: talked for two hours tonight with a very long time friend we have not spoken in months but .. it was so easy we just picked up where we left off .. smiles the lovely thing about friendship it does not need constant attention once it has roots :)
Calvino Rabeni: Yes, it picks up where it left off, feeling like it is outside the familiar time line
Paradise Tennant: hmmm yes outside of time :)
Paradise Tennant: like there is somekind of internal thread that binds ..without being subject to time :)
--BELL--
Paradise Tennant: what I really like about human interreaction are the surprises :)
Paradise Tennant: the times when you go wow!
Paradise Tennant: sorry seldom this chatty this late in the day .. just in from a nice long run and had such a lovely lazy day .... perfect way to start a new year :)
druth Vlodovic: I like you chatty helps me listen lol
Paradise Tennant: smiles
Calvino Rabeni: sweet :)
Paradise Tennant: usually this sessions are at the end of my day .. so always kind of at low ebb :)
Calvino Rabeni: a rare pleasure :)
Paradise Tennant: smiles
Calvino Rabeni: I'm reflecting on your idea ... things I really like about human interaction
Paradise Tennant: laughter ?
Paradise Tennant: learning ?
druth Vlodovic: I find a kind of deep emotion that lasts long after
Calvino Rabeni: :)
Calvino Rabeni: I do too, and trying to notice what sparks or allows it to come in
Paradise Tennant: well like a shared chemistry .. sort of reactions :))
Calvino Rabeni: It's contact with creativity and intelligence, where people come together and find new energy passing between them, such that the result is bigger than each of them put together
druth Vlodovic: I think it is good if you can relax, if there is any sort of defensive feeling towards somone it kind of blocks it
Calvino Rabeni: Which is a subtle chemistry
Paradise Tennant: synergy
Paradise Tennant: stepping out of bounds :)
Calvino Rabeni: and yes, bigger than personal or emotional
Paradise Tennant: our self imposed bounds
Calvino Rabeni: things are inspiring, new possibilities come into existence
Calvino Rabeni: or are "remembered"
Paradise Tennant: swears they just float in the air around us waiting to get in
Calvino Rabeni: There's a "learning" aspect to it, but it's not factual, more like an expansion in conscious capability
Calvino Rabeni: and I call it learning because it seems to be able to persist and change things a little
Calvino Rabeni: but some people call it "transmission" in some traditions
druth Vlodovic: I like transmission, it is kind of effortless, natural
Calvino Rabeni: Something moving "through us" is what that word connotes
Paradise Tennant: smile looks for our antennae :)
Calvino Rabeni smiles at Paradise, one of his "antennae"
--BELL--
Calvino Rabeni: I also like more naturalistic metaphors, less "electronic" like, we're all trees with roots in the same soil and drinking from the same ground water
druth Vlodovic: it was fun, catch you later
Calvino Rabeni waves at druth
Calvino Rabeni: Bye :)
Paradise Tennant: also we are not really that sollid it is very very natural for things to move through us :)
Paradise Tennant: bye druth
Calvino Rabeni: Having an awareness of the particulars is helpful
Paradise Tennant: listens
Calvino Rabeni: allowing practice
Calvino Rabeni: but holding open the idea that things come through us, whether we are aware of them or not
Calvino Rabeni: also seems useful, even though in practice one is one step removed
Paradise Tennant: yes
Calvino Rabeni: for instance one meets someone new
Paradise Tennant: practice centers you
Calvino Rabeni: or even an old friend, but they are different each time
Paradise Tennant: but you still need to stay open
Paradise Tennant: hmm yes
Calvino Rabeni: sometimes more open, and having learned new things
Paradise Tennant: every moment changing
Calvino Rabeni: one doesn't know what it is exactly
Calvino Rabeni: but has a sense of it
Calvino Rabeni: something is in the air
Calvino Rabeni: and
Calvino Rabeni: it gets negotiated within the relationship as it unfolds in the moment
Calvino Rabeni: there may be some familiar and known qualities
Paradise Tennant: it is a bit like the symbol for tao .. a bit of each is in each
Calvino Rabeni: like I know someone will be enthusiastic, or will be able to "hold" my rigidities with a light touch and help me achieve the same myself
Calvino Rabeni: so one can be alert to those partly-known phenomena
Calvino Rabeni: but also alert to something more completely new
Paradise Tennant: smiles we must be like the grass .. very bendy :))
Calvino Rabeni: perhaps by cultivating a more general openess and responsiveness
Calvino Rabeni: yes, grass is a nice image of flexible and responsive
Paradise Tennant: yes being open ..giving full attention
Paradise Tennant: I find I try to breathe in the person :) or the idea
Paradise Tennant: or the logic
Calvino Rabeni: full attention to the full unfolding relationship which is beyond "internal" and "external" or includes them both
Calvino Rabeni: yes breathing it in, or dancing with it, or in some other way being moved by it
Archmage Atlantis: If theother is a person, one can onu breithe a that person allows
Paradise Tennant: smiles at arch :) wb :)
Calvino Rabeni: That's tough sometimes
Paradise Tennant: hmm
Archmage Atlantis: ty, I suppose it was obvious I was f0gged out
Paradise Tennant: I think we all want to breathed in :))
Paradise Tennant: if you are wholly open .. there are few who do not want to be in some way connected :)
Calvino Rabeni: Breathing-with is lovely experience
Archmage Atlantis: The other advantige of age.
Calvino Rabeni: But there are times when you don't have a reciprocal relationship, not on the same energetic level
Paradise Tennant: hmm well
--BELL--
Calvino Rabeni: Hopefully an older person can remember and reenter some of the experience of being young
Paradise Tennant: not so sure .. usually if I find I am not connecting well with someone ... I always look to me .. well being buddhist .. it is sort of ahh I am not projecting this person well today :))
Ariadne DeSantis: Hello
Paradise Tennant: hiya ariadne welcome
Paradise Tennant: let me give you a notecard :)
Ariadne DeSantis: Thank you
Paradise Tennant: these chat sessions are recorded and put on a wiki page ..are you ok with your comments being included :)
Ariadne DeSantis: okay
Paradise Tennant: we were talking about what we loved best about human interreaction :))
Paradise Tennant: deciding that it is almost as so there is some connective movement that just kind of slides through :)
Ariadne DeSantis: communication shows ideas that seem new to me, sometimes connected with a feeling of joy
Paradise Tennant: smiles
Paradise Tennant: learning synergy .. building a deeper bigger pool of understanding :)
Calvino Rabeni: Did you tell Ariadne what we were discussing, or did it just spontaneously happen that A spoke to the exact idea?
Paradise Tennant: hmnmm have decided to end a perfect day with a gingerale vannilla float .. that touches perfection :) so easy to share joy .. share pain .. share pleasure .. almost as though we are connective fibers
Calvino Rabeni: Well in way, a word for the topic was sanga
Paradise Tennant: yes !
Paradise Tennant: seeking sanga
Calvino Rabeni: yes, what happens when people get together in a certain way
Paradise Tennant: there is a santity .. a sanity to sharing sanga .. oooo too many ss :)
Paradise Tennant: * sanctity
Calvino Rabeni: nods enthusiastically
Calvino Rabeni: This has been a long session - 3.5 hours and a good one too .. I'll be interested to re-read the log
Paradise Tennant: smiles :) wow that is a long session :)
Calvino Rabeni: Ariadne do yousee Paradise as a cloud or an avatar?
Ariadne DeSantis: all are perfectly rendered
Calvino Rabeni: :)
Calvino Rabeni: since I returned from the crash I see the familar pulsing cloud
Paradise Tennant: smiles :) cloud or avatra same mix of pixels/molecules :)
Calvino Rabeni: These meetings are self-organizing in a mysterious fashion
--BELL--
Paradise Tennant: life is mysterious :)
Calvino Rabeni: early in the session we were talking about the re-entry from the meditation, and how things were reassembled into solidity
Calvino Rabeni: and I was considering some simple way to re-enter with less solidity
Paradise Tennant: occassionally there are glimpses ..every once in a while where you get to see how it is all woven together .. before it melds into solidity
Calvino Rabeni: yet still function
Paradise Tennant: lol
Calvino Rabeni: by looking at the second life image in a different way
Paradise Tennant: yep have to function :)
Calvino Rabeni: It (the snapshot I sent) gives a feeling a little like the artist Alex Grey
Calvino Rabeni: (or is it spelled Gray)
Calvino Rabeni: who draws human bodies as if transparent energy bodies
Paradise Tennant: yes it is lovely
Calvino Rabeni: that things can pass through
Calvino Rabeni: as you mentioned earlier Paradise
Paradise Tennant: who builds landscapes with numbers :) in venice I walked by an art shop window and was struck dead in my tracks with a picture and immediately wanted to buy it .. only to notice later it was constructed all of numbers :)
Paradise Tennant: what lovely idea too
Paradise Tennant: we are energy fields
Paradise Tennant: if you are feeling upbeat you can walk into a room and raise the energy
Paradise Tennant: with your mere presence
Paradise Tennant: believe you can do that with or without your physical body
Calvino Rabeni: Its presence though that moves people physically
Ariadne DeSantis: many mathematical models yield pleasing imagery as - among others - native tribes have discovered
Paradise Tennant: it is a kenetic force beyond physical presence
Calvino Rabeni: maybe not, I think
Paradise Tennant: smiles at ariadne
Paradise Tennant: lol
Calvino Rabeni: but certainly, one we aren't usually aware of
Paradise Tennant: well we are not here physically
Calvino Rabeni: a mode of action
Calvino Rabeni: that's true, Paradise, if "physically" is defined in a narrow sense
Ariadne DeSantis: logs out of RL in sleep only
Calvino Rabeni: but there are interesting in-between definitional realms
Paradise Tennant: wonders if maybe our dreams are the reality and this is fiction :)
Ariadne DeSantis: there are lucid dreams
Paradise Tennant: yes
Calvino Rabeni: Yes, like this one :)
Ariadne DeSantis: I wonder how lucid one can become
--BELL--
Ariadne DeSantis: anyway, it seems not up to me to decide whether to become lucid ... sometimes it happens
Paradise Tennant: hmm yes
Paradise Tennant: can sometimes see waves of events that just roll through us ..
Paradise Tennant: like we are water molecules being pulled by a moon :)
Ariadne DeSantis: sometimes we are aware of the dream being a dream, and sometimes not
Paradise Tennant: yes .. always think of dreams as gifts
Paradise Tennant: the ones I can remember always seem that to me
Ariadne DeSantis: some dreams are personally significant, especially now in the "rough nights" till Jan 6
Paradise Tennant: what are rough nites
Ariadne DeSantis: a Germanic tradition - let me find the notecard of the lecture I held in Spirit Mountain ...
Paradise Tennant: do you study dream ariadne :)
Ariadne DeSantis: yes, I'm doing dream yoga in the tradition of Namkhai Norbu -
Paradise Tennant: wow
Paradise Tennant: can I tell you a dream :) I had just a few days ago :) that has not left me :)
Ariadne DeSantis: I'm in the "long stretch of patience" now, after initial successes
Ariadne DeSantis: nothing against it
Paradise Tennant: what kind of initial successes
Ariadne DeSantis: becoming lucid
Calvino Rabeni: Have you met (or I think it would be nice for you to meet) Lucinda Lavender, who does a dream circle in this area?
Paradise Tennant: so dreaming while knowing you are dreaming and able to direct your dream
Paradise Tennant: you will love lucinda ariadne ..she is wonderful
Ariadne DeSantis: yes, that's the lucid state
Ariadne DeSantis: I was once in the Society of Lucid Dreamin in SL, but that is now defunct, I think
Calvino Rabeni: If I could direct my dream, I hope it would still have the ability to surpise me with the unexpected
Ariadne DeSantis: thinks it will ^^
Calvino Rabeni: What's the rationale for why lucid dreaming is a good idea?
Paradise Tennant: likes surprises too :) they speak to the immediacy of life ..
Calvino Rabeni: Other than "it would be cool to explore"
Ariadne DeSantis: becoming aware, seeing through illusions, self-work ... call it what you will
Calvino Rabeni: So as a source of information and insight useful for "self work"
--BELL--
Ariadne DeSantis: I like the pauses very much ^^
Calvino Rabeni: :)
Paradise Tennant: smiles at ariadne :)
Calvino Rabeni: That's great :)
Paradise Tennant: they are very very useful
Calvino Rabeni: Some visitors just ignore them :)
Calvino Rabeni: As do I at times
Calvino Rabeni: if I happen to get too excited
Paradise Tennant: even though sometimes it is easy to get carried away with a thought and keep typing
Calvino Rabeni: but I like the discipline of it
Calvino Rabeni: and find it useful
Paradise Tennant: nods
Ariadne DeSantis: well, thers's always telepathy (IM)
Paradise Tennant: smiles
Calvino Rabeni: Right, I consider that cheating
Ariadne DeSantis: tee hee
Calvino Rabeni: Although I yield to temptation
Ariadne DeSantis: laughs
Calvino Rabeni: It's like, there was some talk months ago about the idea of a "day of silence" at a RL retreat
Calvino Rabeni: and the question came up
Calvino Rabeni: can you surf the web, as long as you don't talk to anyone?
Paradise Tennant: my favourite day of the retreats is the silent day
Calvino Rabeni: Which I found amusing
Calvino Rabeni: Or listen to music, watch youtube
Calvino Rabeni: etc.
Paradise Tennant: it is an old tradition
Paradise Tennant: same thing as not working on the sabbath
Calvino Rabeni: so it was worthwhile to talk about the intent behind it
Paradise Tennant: maintaining a time frame where you contemplated the divine
Calvino Rabeni: or the objective of it, not the form
Ariadne DeSantis: when we allow ourselves to wake up somewhat form the day-to-day dream
Paradise Tennant: mm you know .. this is likely the dreaming part .. because here there is time :)
Paradise Tennant: in our dreams .. time is not so fixed
Paradise Tennant: more fluid
Paradise Tennant: or not there
Ariadne DeSantis: found the transcript of the lecture
Paradise Tennant: looks interesting ..thank you :)
Calvino Rabeni: I don't see what you see, Paradise
Paradise Tennant: ? are you looking at the transcript ?
Ariadne DeSantis: sorry for the late delivery
Calvino Rabeni: Oh it only just appeared, now I am
Paradise Tennant: smiles is it ok to drop a copy .. in lucinda's inventory ..ariadne she would like this
--BELL--
Ariadne DeSantis: lecture has been shared with Lucinda Lavender
Paradise Tennant: smiles at ariadne
Paradise Tennant: so a dream on a specific date yield a perspective on parts of the upcoming year ?
Ariadne DeSantis: yes, it happened once to me to dream of a person I had not met or thought of for more than 10 years - and I met that person that year
Ariadne DeSantis: during an event I could not have foreseen
Paradise Tennant: so a glimpse of the future
Ariadne DeSantis: skeptics might say coincidence - but to me it was a real surprise
Paradise Tennant: hmm well sometimes the things that move through us are not time linked )
Ariadne DeSantis: please elaborate
Paradise Tennant: like a current of connection understanding .. emotion .. energy that does not pay mind to a calendar
Ariadne DeSantis: like sympathy?
Paradise Tennant: like we are threads in a tapestry
Paradise Tennant: yes
Paradise Tennant: sympathy moves from one to another
Paradise Tennant: smiles and joy
Paradise Tennant: and sorrow
Ariadne DeSantis: I feel it more like a resonance - sympathy meaning "same emotion"
Paradise Tennant: and love .. laughter .. anger .. echos resonance .. reverberation .. maybe almost like music
Ariadne DeSantis: ok
Ariadne DeSantis: harmony
Paradise Tennant: flow
Paradise Tennant: that is the word I use most
Paradise Tennant: I try to get into the flow of a situation
Paradise Tennant: problem to be worked
Paradise Tennant: task
Paradise Tennant: even the most mundane things
Ariadne DeSantis: "the zone"
Paradise Tennant: repeatitive cleaning ..etch
Paradise Tennant: have a flow
Paradise Tennant: yes
Paradise Tennant: and moving in that flow makes it ohhhhhh so much easier
Paradise Tennant: so if i walk into a room with others I will try to centre and find the flow
Archmage Atlantis: Listen, and thee shall hear Think, and teee shall know Fall asleep at one's desk And thee shall be pink in the fae
Paradise Tennant: lol
Ariadne DeSantis: ^^
Archmage Atlantis: Wow, 2x in one 24 hr period
Archmage Atlantis: brb
Archmage Atlantis: maybe
Paradise Tennant: smiles at arch
Paradise Tennant: and waves
--BELL--
Paradise Tennant: smiles now I feel the flow angling towards my bed :) thank you both for the convesation the company the sharing ;)
Ariadne DeSantis: good night, Paradise
Calvino Rabeni: Dream well, Paradise
Paradise Tennant: so glad you could join us ariadne ...hope to see you again soon
Calvino Rabeni: Yes
Paradise Tennant: thank you cal .. and you dream well :)
Ariadne DeSantis: I hope so
Calvino Rabeni: I'll go too ... I some distractions to attend to :))
Ariadne DeSantis: morning here in RL, the day begins, bye Calvino
Calvino Rabeni: Take care, Ariadne